"Not only has no one ever done this research, officials have done everything to avoid doing it. It is however, the only way this issue will ever be finally settled."

As was already pointed out, we all know the truth and they know the truth also. We don't need any more studies and asking for them is naive. The people who run the vaccine and medical industry are psychopaths, and that is at least 4% of the population. That 4% has been running the planet for at least 10,000 years, hence all the wars, poisons like vaccines, aspartame, fluoride etc

The more you look into it the more obvious it becomes that vaccines were designed to cause death and disease. Just studying smallpox vaccine history will show anyone that.

Read 'Puzzling People: The Labyrinth of the Psychopath By Thomas Sheridan. Not a bad starter to the true nature of the psychopaths running the drug/vaccine industry.

After all Sydenham showed them in the 17th century how to cure smallpox making vaccination completely unecessary, but they ignored that like they do with that disease and all the others to this day.

The best example of medical psychopathy is how they have suppressed the Vitamin C cure for infections (also cot-death, heart disease) for at least 60 years, letting millions of babies and adults die and thousands live without limbs.

Dr levy documents the research, 1,200 citations http://whale.to/a/levy_h.html

and this NZ story is a man who they were quite happy to let die ratrher than give Vitamin C http://whale.to/a/swine_flu_cure.html

Do you honestly think these psychopaths are going to do another proper study? I don't think so.

Anne,

THANK YOU. I was so angered by his piece I was literally wordless. I sat down at my computer 5 times trying to hammer out my thoughts but could not overcome my anger. Conjecture, cynicism, and just plain avoidance of the truth. That is what Mr. Mnookin is about. Pretend it is not happening america. Nothing to see here. Nopers. These Amish folks (who I have not had the pleasure of meeting) are just as sick as the rest of us. THANK YOU. So well executed. Best, lj

http://kerboblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/pediatrics-lets-all-satanically-haze.html

Behind a PEDIATRICS pay-wall sits the latest seeing-eye vaccine study designed to not look out of the ordinary, not examine the unsafe nature of vaccines, but privily provide relatively stupid vaccine industry flaks something to throw into the air while standing down-wind inside a Jet Propulsion Lab wind tunnel switched to full blast.

This study actually deserved the inappropriate attention given to it by world leaders in scamdemic fraud like Reuters' Health, but really it has nothing to do with Autism, declining Autism rates, the fact that vaccinations singly or insanely grouped together based on their propensity to be neurologically-active infections which can cause Autism.

Another link here, with a snip to follow:

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/autism-in-amish-children-1-in-10000/

A COUPLE OF SNIPS:

"After learning that “Autism Rates Rocket – 1 in 38 British Boys – Cambridge Study” we now find Dr. Max Wiznitzer, a key vaccine proponent admitted on Friday night’s US TV programme Larry King Live that the rate of autism in northeastern Ohio, the largest Amish community in the USA with low rates of vaccination, was 1 in 10,000. He should know, he said: “I’m their neurologist.” [See: Larry King Live – Breakthrough Coverage & More]

..."Dr. Max Wiznitzer of University Hospitals in Cleveland is an expert witness for the government against the families who file in the US National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. In the US Federal Court case of Ben Zeller of proven developmental delay caused by vaccines the Court commented on Dr Wiznitzer’s expert testimony defending the vaccines on behalf of the defendant US Department of Health and Human Services that Wiznitzer had no alternative explanation for Ben Zeller’s injuries beyond:

..."Wiznitzer admits to Amish vaccination rates being around 50% but others have reported very much lower rates..."

Re: Not only has no one ever done this research, officials have done everything to avoid doing it. It is however, the only way this issue will ever be finally settled.

With all do respect Ms. Dachel, We all know that such a study would only settle the issue in our minds. And for that matter my mind is already settled. It was settled the day I found out what was in the vaccines. Once I knew what vaccines really are it became crystal clear what was happening. Neurotoxic Poison = Nervous System Damage! If someone of average intelligence like me can see that without a study, certainly doctors and health officials can. Even with such a study do you really think they'll put their hats in their hands, neil down and ask for forgiveness? They simply refuse to except truth because it condemns them. And because of this they will come back with as much industry funded junk science as they need to so they can continue to get away with the crime of the century. And as long as the media is their willing accomplice the issue will not be settled. The only way we make a difference is when we take this information to our friends, neighbors and coworkers the way the media should be doing it. Doctors won't speak up. Most of them are too cowardly and selfish. They don't want to become Wakefield. And they don't want to lose their positions of authority in our culture. Can you imagine if suddenly everyone started questioning everything their doctor wanted to do the way our group does with vaccines? Can you imagine the keg of worms that would open? I agree this study needs to be done but its not going to settle anything. This is our cross to bear. We have to do this grass roots. It's the only way its going to work. And it's going to take time.

Karmen Wagler RN BSN
Before commenting, you drove to their house or asked them to meet at a specific time in order to contact this person? Did you speak to her via the public phone on the lane or did you ask her to meet you for breakfast as this article was posted at 5:45am??? I've spoken to quite a few Amish and they say they DO NOT vaccinate as they follow the strict teachings of the Bible. Now I don't expect you to believe MY assessment of MY conversation with an Amish person, so you can't expect me to believe yours either.
I call bull shit.

Go to vaccineinjury.info they are in fact doing a study (I hope they are not biased)of 10,000 people who are not vaccinated. They have 9400 in the system and only need 600 more. Of course I suspect that there will be a portion of people who will try to change the numbers by putting false information in their as well. Spread the word so they can get to 10K. http://www.vaccineinjury.info/vaccinations-in-general/health-unvaccinated-children.html

I agree; Do the damn study that will answer the question that everyone wants to know!

I did find info about immune serum globulin for the control of infectious hepatitis as a prophylactic that existed during the 70's and before. Since my wife was given this after possible exposure it could well have been this ISG.
I suppose it could have had something to do with the problems, but who knows?

YES!!! Someone needs to design a study of not only autism, but all other potentially related disorders - comparing never-vaxed kids with fully vaxed kids. It is SOO past time for this! We need to be asked about muscle tone, coordination, speech development, focus/awareness, sleep patterns, behavior, bowel movement patterns, sickness rates, the way their bodies deal with sickness...etc!! There are so many things that are different about no-vax kids. Someone PLEASE give the world the opportunity to see this! It's the first thing I'd do if I had the means.

Before commenting, I contacted an amish friend of mine to check my facts. She confirmed that all the amish she knows vaccinate their families completely and on schedule. She does a know a few that have not done the chicken pox vaccine because they do not think it is necessary.

Hmm, interesting. I am sure noticing Altzheimers among this generation of elderly (people born from around 1925 onward). All my grandparents seemed to fare o.k. As far as this horrible disease - they were born around 1900. But, the poor guys born to them seem to be undergoing a really high rate of Alzheimers. I know my grandparents all had amalgam dentistry but a big difference (and one of many environmental differences, admittedly) seems to be the flu shots, never mind all the others they're now pushing on seniors (hepatitis, dpt). I bet my grandparents (none of whom were in any kind of long term health care facility) had hardly any shots at all-the one my nana got gave her Guillaume-Barre. My dad's doc convinced him to get hep b at 80 which seems insane. Most of the present day seniors seem to love their flu shots. It may well be that mercury/aluminum from vaccines (as opposed to mercury amalgams is quite a bit deadlier for the brain. Teresa C. - I wish I'd had time to ask you this in your mercury series post. Please comment if possible. I hope someone is studying this health issue somehow before we think it's normal for all seniors to have Alzheimers. My dad has 2 cousins with it and his brother and I know for a fact that my uncle would have got any and all vaccines advised for travel etc. He, like my dad, was in drug sales.

I don't think Seth Mnookin or Reuters knows anything about Amish folks or they'd know their "studies" are probably skewed because not all Amish sects are alike. As a journalist in northeast Indiana, I had the opportunity to meet polar ends of the Amish community. One side is very strict; the other is what they describe as "more English." (If you don't know what that means, you need some basic Amish training.)

In this area there are still quite a few Amish grammar schools, and you can just about be assured that the children attending those schools are not vaccinated. But as they migrate or matriculate toward "English" schools, more and more Amish parents are getting their kids vaccinated because the law requires it. Some will use a religious exemption to get out of it, but most are complying because they don't like to make waves.

Also, since more and more Amish girls are having their babies in a hospital instead of at home, you'll find that these children are getting vaccinated too.

The most interesting thing is this, however: as a reporter covering the Amish community, over the years I started noticing that Amish children weren't looking quite as healthy as they once did. Used to be they had cherubic rosy cheeks with bright eyes. But slowly, these kids started looking tired and sleep-deprived, with dark circles under their eyes. And their cheeks are losing that rosy glow. The English blame those circles and pale faces on parents who let their kids stay up at night watching too much TV. Only the Amish don't have TV -- so what's causing Amish kids to look like that?

I also noticed that more and more Amish kids had runny noses and coughs. Just between 2001, when I did an extensive series on the Amish, and 2008, when I did another series, I noticed that this was a major change -- why are Amish kids so sickly now, as compared to only a few years ago?

Of course I don't have a scientific answer to that. But I will tell you this much -- very UNscientifically I started asking Amish parents whether their kids were vaccinated or not. Inevitably, the healthy-cheeked, clear-eyed kids who were NOT coughing or snotting around were the unvaccinated ones. Unscientific but true.

The parents who were not vaccinating their kids seemed uncomfortable talking about it and admitted feeling intimidated by doctors and schools to get their kids vaccinated. Then I asked the bomb: did they have anyone in their community whose kids were autistic? To a T, every single autistic child also was a vaccinated child.

Again, there's no science in this, but the purpose of my comment is to add a little information on something that Seth Mnookin obviously knows nothing about -- that the culture and social dynamics of Amish families vary so much that this little Ohio study is nothing but a commentary on that particular group.

For Pete Sakes, just in Steuben County, Indiana alone, the Amish on one side of the county are as different as night and day to the Amish on the other side. One side wouldn't THINK of attending an English school; the other side is being accused by the first of being too English simply because they're accepting unemployment checks after being laid off from some of the local factories. There's so much to know and learn about these people, and it's a travesty that somebody doesn't go in there while there's still time, like Dan did, and do a REAL vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study.

There are over 55 different types of Amish subgroups in Holmes County, Ohio. Few use modern day conveniences such as an automobile, and then some go back as far as horse and buggy. I seriously doubt that the surveys went into all the different subgroups, and if they did I bet they would find one of the reasons their children get only a few vaccines is because they only go to the medical establishment a few times in their lives, like maybe extreme illness. I also know for a fact that the Amish have foster children that they care for,which have been vaccinated, so it would be interesting to find out how many of those children were included in the Reuters story.

Of course, even now this would be very fertile ground for a vaccinated vs unvaccinated study with otherwise socially and ethnically similar groups. So it is absolutely imperative that it isn't done!