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Three Blind Mice - Bad Week for Offit, Mnookin and Deer

Three-Blind-Mice_puzzle_less_blurry_text_ By Dan Olmsted

Isn't it nice to see the hammer of real journalism come down on the fringe lunatic crank ravings of the Three Blind Mice of Autism Epidemic Enablers -- profiteering vaccine-damage denier Paul Offit, cruel and credulous junk science-swallower Seth Mnookin, and sick-child tormentor Brian Deer?

Offit got the worst of it, with the Orange County Register calling out his "Liar! Liar!" accusations against Sheryl Attkisson of CBS. Offit has raked in millions off his totally unnecessary, universally recommended, pig-virus infested rotavirus vaccine. He also called Barbara Loe Fisher a liar; she sued but lost and decided not appeal; this new development ought to make her smile. Meanwhile our own J.B. Handley sued and Offit forked over money; and the British publisher of his most recent book had to shred them and print new copies because he had maligned one of the key players in the MMR saga.

Mnookin has a bad habit of reviling his elders and betters and sticking up for the dim bulbs of autism-vaccine reporting just before they get unscrewed. For instance, he was all about love for fellow feature writer Trine Tsouderos right before a respected independent science-watch group lambasted her coverage of Lyme Disease -- slamming the same snotty bias masquerading as "sound science" she has heaped on parents of vaccine-damaged kids. He also has appeared with Offit and has a callow error-laden misunderstanding of the autism epidemic that he seems to owe mostly to Saint Paul of the Syringe.

Wouldn't you know, just before the Orange County Offit smackdown he attacked Attkisson for picking up a recent study on ways that autism could occur. ONE of those ways was vaccine injury. ("More embarrassing anti-vaccine reporting from CBS News's Sharyl Attkisson.")

Now he's really gone and done it, blasting Robert MacNeil for his autism series on PBS, which included an open-minded segment about his grandson's autism. "An embarrassing, reckless, and irresponsible coda to Robert MacNeil's career" was the title of his first blog post. Seth, my man, you do project too much -- it is your career that will suffer those lasting judgments. Of course, The Mnew York Times liked your book. They also loved Bruno Bettelheim's "The Empty Fortress," the "Mommy is Homicidal and the Kids Know It" explanation for autism. That might make you the Bruno Bettelheim of our day. You say you never criticize parents, only the "moral and scientific bankruptcy of all those who'd encouraged the families of children with autism to blame vaccines." "All those" people are mostly parents! (And apparently grandparents like MacNeil are fair game -- one generation back and you're an irresponsible jerk for even discussing it.)

And speaking of projection, we must not overlook Brian Deer, the king of feces-flinging accusations that mirror his own “festering nastiness, the creepy repetitiveness, the weasly, deceitful, obsessiveness." (That was his description of parents who dared to disagree with him.) He got a nice reception at Johns Hopkins this week, where parent-blaming first came into fashion after they couldn't figure out the environmental clues that Mark Blaxill and I write about in "The Age of Autism -- Mercury, Medicine, and a Man-Made Epidemic." Deer is technically a rat, but for simplicity's sake I include him here.

There is nothing fun about autism, but it will be fun to watch their sinking ship go down.

Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism.

Comments

Emmaphiladelphia

"Autism is not a specific disease but rather a disorder of brain development with a strong genetic basis."
REALLY?

How about a disorder of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act schedule which added a new vaccine technology experimental shot for NEWBORNS (including mercury) plus others added on for a fatter profit with the new federal liability protection for manufacturers. Genetics has not been known to produce an EPIDEMIC OF BRAIN INJURY. From 1 in 10,000 in 1986 to around 1 in 35 today. Is vaccine induced encephalopathy contagious?

Dr. Marina Gafanovich, MD

Altough it's a pretty aged thread I deemed it necessary to provide an updated source link in place of the expired one - https://nevadaautism.com/the-pediatricians-role-in-the-diagnosis-and-management-of-autistic-spectrum-disorder-in-children/

oneVoice

Well hoxtonpaul I read your input.I wanted a healthy child,
I did my best to have a healthy child.We had no autism,mental illness in our family.If there is damage
done to these children then that damage needs to be prevented and the causes need to be explored.The people
who caused the damage must pay the price for the damage.
Our children deserve only the very best care and those
toxic vaccines had caused too many adverse effects.But you want us to be quiet,because the damage,the harm,the pain,
the suffering should be all pushed under the carpet as it is
not helping your vaccine business hoxtonpaul???? Take that
from a mother,we will not stop until the truth is exposed.
You people poisoning our babies at a crucial time when their brain is developing.When their blood brain barrier is under developed and their kidneys and livers are immature.
With God's help,We will find the truth and the answers.

hoxtonpaul

Excuse me, but have any of you ever talked to people with autism?

Have any of you asked them which sides of their families they inherited it from?

In the future, there wont be the term autism on account of all the different conditions that will be defined. The entire concept this site purports will be seen as arcaic. The truth about all this will be revealed to be very different. The perspective everyone here shares and loves, will be shown as naive and too crude and basic.

In your A of A world, there is no autism. There are only the normal and the damaged, who should be returned to normal.

What happens is that enough children die who could have been saved by vaccinations they did not receive, because their parents listened to the kinds of people who contribute and blog on this site. Then it wont matter about autism. Because the majority will turn on all of you.

The people blogging above me here, remind me of saw doctors. Apes attempting brain-surgery. It could take decades or more, before people really do know what is going on with autism, let alone any connection with vaccines and mercury.

Until then, keep on putting those bullets in your own feet. This site reads as a childish, hating people blog.

Now please delete. :)

Tony Bateson

What is happening with Poul Thorsen (whom I know better as Dr. No (no connection that is!)? He should be joined with Offitt, Mnookin and Deer to make up the gang of four. Four people who will ultimately pay the price for their parts in the damage to humanity that has been perpetrated upon millions of infants worldwide.

Tony Bateson, Cheltenham, UK.

Maurine Meleck

I think it's quite amazing how three blind mice have found each other. You'd think it would be hard enough if they had sight Do you think their blindness is genetic? If not, did they all fall into the same vat of mouse louse and mercury?

ChildHealthSafety

Dan,

Bearing in mind you are have been a professional journalist yourself, please tell us in this week of all weeks why you and others are not ramming the following information down the throats of the US media?

A) the current President of Merck’s Vaccines Division, Julie Gerberding confirmed to CBS News when she was Director of the US Centres for Disease Control that: “So if a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism.” [1]

B) Autistic conditions can result from encephalopathy following vaccination. The US Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) confirmed to CBS News that of 1322 cases of vaccine injury compensation settled out of court by the US Government in secret settlements: “We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures.” [2], [2a], [3].

C) It is biologically plausible that a live virus vaccine like MMR [which] contains live viruses one of which is scientifically accepted as causing autism. The first known cause of autism was rubella virus.

… rubella (congenital rubella syndrome) is one of the few proven causes of autism.“ Walter A. Orenstein, M.D. US as Assistant Surgeon General, Director National Immunization Program in a letter to the UK’s Chief Medical Officer 15 February 2002.

rubella virus is one of the few known causes of autism.” US Center for Disease Control.
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/autism/autism-mmr.htm

rubella can cause autism” The Pediatrician’s Role in the Diagnosis and Management of Autistic Spectrum Disorder in Children – PEDIATRICS Vol. 107 No. 5 May 2001
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;107/5/1221

D) Autistic conditions can result from acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following MMR vaccination as held by the US Federal Court in the case of Bailey Banks [4].

In his conclusion, US Federal Court Special Master Abell ruled that Petitioners had proven that the MMR had directly caused a brain inflammation illness called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) which, in turn, had caused the autism spectrum disorder PDD-NOS in the child:

The Court found that Bailey’s ADEM was both caused-in-fact and proximately caused by his vaccination. It is well-understood that the vaccination at issue can cause ADEM, and the Court found, based upon a full reading and hearing of the pertinent facts in this case, that it did actually cause the ADEM. Furthermore, Bailey’s ADEM was severe enough to cause lasting, residual damage, and retarded his developmental progress, which fits under the generalized heading of Pervasive Developmental Delay, or PDD [an autism spectrum disorder]. The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine, and that this chain of causation was… a proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from vaccination to Pervasive Developmental Delay.

E) Autism is not caused by genes. And what does not cause autism?

Dr Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. the 16th and current Director of the US$30.5 billion budget National Institutes of Health [nominated by President Obama: NIH News Release 17th August 2009 ] stated in evidence to US House of Representatives Committee May 2006 when Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute [5]:

“Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes, childhood asthma, obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool as those changes take much more time to occur. They must be due to changes in the environment, including diet and physical activity, which may produce disease in genetically predisposed persons.“

F) Autistic conditions affect approximately 1 in 100 US children. They affect 1 in 64 British children [1 in 40 are boys] according to a Cambridge University study [6].

“Conclusions: The prevalence estimate of known cases of ASC, using different methods of ascertainment converges around 1%. The ratio of known to unknown cases means that for every three known cases there are another two unknown cases. This has implications for planning diagnostic, social and health services.”

G) It is estimated to cost the UK £28 billion per annum [roughly US$42 billion]: [7]

[1] HOUSE CALL WITH DR. SANJAY GUPTA – Unraveling the Mystery of Autism; Talking With the CDC Director; Stories of Children with Autism; Aging with Autism – Aired March 29, 2008 – 08:30 ET
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/29/hcsg.01.html

[2] CBS News Exclusive: Leading Dr.: Vaccines-Autism Worth Study Former Head Of NIH Says Government Too Quick To Dismiss Possible Link – WASHINGTON, May 12, 2008
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/12/cbsnews_investigates/main4086809.shtml

[2a] [see text of email exchanges between US HRSA and Attkisson - attached]
http://childhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/attkisson-cbs-hrsa-email-exchanges-autistic-conditions-vaccines.pdf

[3] Vaccine Case: An Exception Or A Precedent? – First Family To Have Autism-Related Case “Conceded” Is Just One Of Thousands – CBS News By Sharyl Attkisson WASHINGTON, March 6, 2008]
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/06/eveningnews/main3915703.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

[4] [Banks v. HHS (Case 02-0738V, 2007 U.S. Claims LEXIS 254, July 20, 2007)]
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/Abell.BANKS.02-0738V.pdf

[5] Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. evidence to US House of Representatives Committee May 2006
http://www.genome.gov/18016846

[6] ESTIMATING AUTISM SPECTRUM PREVALENCE IN THE POPULATION: A SCHOOL BASED STUDY FROM THE UK
http://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2008/webprogram/Paper2245.html

[7] ["Economic Consequences of Autism in the UK" - London School of Economics - Study by team led by Professor Martin Knapp
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pressAndInformationOffice/PDF/EconomicCostsofAutism.pdf

[Executive Summary]
https://www.nece.gov.uk/nece/neceprojects.nsf/0/01771070ACD08B7680257420004F51C7/$file/Autism%20briefing.pdf

MotherOfPossibility

Barbara,

I wish you had your day in court. I will always thank you for boldly venturing into new conversations that reflect a true reality.

Others,

Deer reports with a political spin, and Deer uses a false premise that both Wakefield and attorneys representing our children are motivated by money, gamble and thrill. I don't know anybody getting rich off of Autism.

What Deer does not understand, is that doctors and attorneys are also motivated by compassion, curiosity, and being cause in the matter of finding out answers for complex concerns.

I wonder how long it will take before the medical community sees through these yellow journalists, and wakes up to getting on with real work at hand.

The checks and balances exist and will prevail. Government is meant to represent the people, not global corporations. The fourth estate is meant to keep big government and large corporations in check. These reporters support keeping large corporations in place so they can continue to make money at the expense of irresponsibly harming our children.

I challenge the medical community to research and come up with treatments that handle our current dilemna of children who have already been injured by the added toxins, and I challenge the medical community to create the third option.... one where we manage infectious disease and not cause chronic diseases. Start with facing that our children are medically not well, and stop labeling them with behavioral, psychiatric diagnoses that say "that's just the way it is", and get to the underlying health issues that can be addressed and make their lives so much better. Perhaps half of the children with Autism come from toxic waste.

Sometimes we have to take things apart and put them together newly. This is part of that process.

At some point everyone will just ignore these reporters because they are on the wrong path.

Barry

I tried posting a comment on the NYT article (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/magazine/mag-24Autism-t.html?_r=1) , but for some reason there was a system "glitch" that wouldn’t allow me to do it... surprise surprise.

This article reeks of a "BrainDeer..esque" reporting style, leaning so overtly in favor of the medical establishment that it's actually sickening to read. And even more astounding, is that virtually EVERY posted comment leans in exactly the same direction... the chance of that happening in today’s world is impossible. This article (comments and all) seems to be completely staged, and it's timing on the heels of the public embarrassments of Mnookin and Offit is hardly a coincidence.

This NYT stunt truly is appalling, and it poses a frightening prospect for how deep the corruption actually runs on this issue. But for the first time ever, I’m starting to feel like our effort to get the message out is making a huge difference. The pharma-funded media machine appears to be kicking into overdrive, and that to me spells desperation on their side. I think they realize that public awareness is really starting to grow, and that their vaccine crimes are drawing perilously close to being exposed.

Big pharma has been spinning the vaccine lie for decades, and the swath of vaccine injuries has drastically increased as a direct result. It was inevitable that the damage would eventually touch the loved one of someone as influential as Robert MacNeil, a man with the integrity and skill to tell the story so well, and the wealth required not to worry about the consequences.

The biggest shame in all of this however, is that Robert MacNeil would never have needed to tell this story, were it not for the senseless injuries sustained by his beautiful little grandson.

Barbara Loe Fisher

Dan, this post DID make me smile! And I agree with you that in our lifetime, we are going to witness the unraveling of the forced vaccination system in America.

Just to clarify regarding my 2009 $1 million defamation lawsuit asking for a jury trial naming Offit, Amy Wallace and Conde Nast for publishing Offit’s false statement that I “lie” in Wired magazine: the federal court judge dismissed the lawsuit primarily on the grounds that both Offit and I are public figures and his opinion that Offit’s allegation was made in the heat of a spirited public debate that is constitutionally protected by the First Amendment right to free speech.
Barbara

So the facts of the case were never heard by a jury of my peers and I did not get my “day in court” to prove that I am not a liar and that Offit did, with malice, defame me. See the excellent brief that my attorney, Jonathan Emord, filed opposing the defedants’ motion to dismiss the case: http://www.nvic.org/PDFs/Offit-Wired/BLF-vs--Offit---Plaintiff-s-Opposition-to-Defendan.aspx

Jenn Brown

Michelle- funny my sons doctor said the same thing - your son will grow out of the explosive watery diarhea. Really? - Why is it ok that 10 years later a parent is hearing the same message? What has the medical field been doing? Our children have multi- system failures. They are sweet little beings whose bodies are being ravaged by autism. I was so glad to see the PBS series and yet deeply saddened that primary medicine has still not caught on. My son saw Dr. Buie and the water dh went away - thank goodness!

Alison MacNeil

Hi Michele, I just wanted to make sure my comment wasn't confusing...I thought the NYT reporter was absurd. I'm awfully glad your child is healing.

Cherry Sperlin Misra

I too just love St. Paul of the Syringe. That goes into the Museum of Autism, (which we all hope to visit in our lifetimes)
And could someone talented kindly provide a visual for that one
.
And friends,I would just like to point out to you all, that in just a few years the children of the autism years will be getting married and having children. Most of them have gone to school with autistic kids and somehow you feel that they are going to do their own research before believing St Paul and the New York Times.

rileysmom

Alison, Michelle's son STILL has diarrhea everyday. She was being "tongue in cheek" about he'll mature out of it. She was asking this Susan dip sh*t whether "he'll just mature out of it". At least I think that's what she was trying to say.

Marsha McClelland

One of my friends just posted this at Seth MNOOKIN's article at;

http://sethmnookin.com/2011/04/18/an-embarrassing-reckless-and-irresponsible-coda-to-robert-macneils-career/#comment-820140

"Embarrassing, irresponsible, reckless?

Kind-of your thing, not Robert MacNeil. His series is thoughtfully done, everyone should watch it.

Do you remember writing this article?

Harvard and heroin
I coasted to an Ivy League degree as a drug addict, but forever damaged the bond between mother and son."

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/1999/08/27/heroinson

Harry T

...or as one blind mouse said to another...

http://www.thedesertdog.com/sound/pb_boob.wav

Alison MacNeil

Michele, I have spent the whole day puzzling over the idea that your son just magically grew out of a decade of 10x a day diarrhea episodes. Having been in the explosive diarrhea trenches myself (special spot in heaven reserved for us) I find that absolutely absurd.

Talk about shoveling the shit!

Carol

A must-read on a related topic:

"In March 2010, a Council of Europe report concluded that the H1N1 virus was known to be mild well before the WHO issued the pandemic 'declaration' and expressed concern about the influence of powerful pharmaceutical companies over decision-making at the agency....In response to [Dr. Rokuro] Hama’s case reports, the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare commissioned a research team at Yokohama University to study 2,846 pediatric influenza patients, some of whom had taken Tamiflu. The Yokohama researchers reported that hallucinations and other neuropsychiatric symptoms were no more common among children who had taken the drug than among those who had not....Hama reanalyzed the Yokohama data and estimated that Tamiflu resulted in a fourfold increase in the frequency of hallucinations and other neuropsychiatric side effects in children with influenza. A journalist later alerted Hama to the fact that Chugai, the Roche subsidiary that markets Tamiflu in Japan, had provided funds for research to two of the scientists who worked on the Yokohama study...."

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/may/12/flu-warning-beware-drug-companies/?page=1

kerbob1

Perhaps the New York Times will deal with the real issue with Rota-whatever Vaccine...Offit's Disease?

Pig viruses aside, the real issue is Offit's.

http://xrl.in/8v3v

Sylvia

Thank you Kerbob1, that is most definitely a KEEPER!!!

Michelle M. Guppy

What I appreciated from the New York Times article where I was interviewed as well, the parent with the son who had horrid diarrhea for a decade --- is how if I would have only waited, he would have "matured out of it".

I think we should have t-shirts made to that effect:

Autism/GI Issues/Seizures (we have all three) -- Don't worry, they'll mature out of it.

What an insult!

Here was my reply to her on that:

http://michellemguppy.blogspot.com/2011/04/for-susan-dominus-of-new-york-times.html

Ottschnaut

Dear Ms. Dominus-

I appreciate your attempt to be balanced in your reporting, I think for the most part you present a reasonably accurate depiction of the controversy surrounding the man.

I think you let Deer off a little too lightly. If you carefully analyze the charges he lays down in BMJ, that Wakefield deliberately falsified data, they do not appear to be accurate. Further, you should be aware, and perhaps make your readers aware, that BMJ is owned by Merck, and that BMJ issued a statement of conflict of interest after Deer’s article was published. Further, you fail to disclose that Deer himself filed the original charges against Wakefield with the GMC, then proceeded to cover the story that he himself created. Not a single parent of the hundreds of children treated at Wakefield’s unit at RFH complained, not a single one. The whole GMC situation was created by Deer, and the real question I have is who is footing his bills?

I disagree with your portrayal of the parents who support Wakefield as unknowing dupes, useful idiots, or somewhere in between. I personally support Wakefield because I believe that he aided sick children with gut disease. It is a fact that the report in Lancet was a case review, not a research study. You neglect to mention that Wakefield’s direct supervisor, Dr. Walker-Smith, also had his medical license lifted for the same charges as Wakefield. Walker-Smith held two chairs in pediatric gastroenterology; had blanket research ethical approval at RFH; and was for five years the editor of Journal of Pediatric Gastroenterology and Nutrition. That both these highly qualified physicians, and indeed the other 12 members of the group, were acting in the unethical manner suggested is simply preposterous on the face of it. The GMC case against Wakefield, that he performed unnecessary invasive medical procedures on children who did not have gut disease, falls apart now that Buie is performing precisely the same procedures.

You describe Wakefield as “shrewd” for setting up clinics to help adult autistics, and then say that 80% of autistics are under the age of 18. Why not a little more exploration of why so many of the autistics are so young?

Can you cite for me on study that directly compares the health outcomes of large populations of vaccinated versus unvaccinated subjects? Dogs, mice, primates, goats, anything? I can’t find such a study. It seems that our children are the very tests subjects on whom are being tested in various combinations 40 vaccinations in the first two years of life. This equates to medical experimentation on human subjects on a large scale, does it not?

One last thought- the only area of medicine I can think of that requires a blanket indemnification against the plaintiff’s bar is the vaccine industry. Why do you suppose that is? I have read it is because vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe (Bruseweitz v Wyeth).” The vaccines are known to cause brain damage which is the price we as a society accept for herd immunity.

Thanks again for a reasonably well balanced report-

First Do No Harm


Saint Paul of the Syringe....Mnew York Times...Thou dost project too much...sticking up for the dim bulbs of autism-vaccine reporting just before they get unscrewed...

Dan, you're in rare form.

Shame on the NYT-

My goodness- the NYT resorting to not letting us comment NOR "Recommend" a comment. When I tried to recommend one that was favorable to Wakefield I got this-

"Could not process your request. Please try again later"

Angus Files

AKA, Hear no truth,See no truth,Speak no truth .

No disrespect to non humane primates,meant.

Angus Files

lisa

Carol,

I tried to post two pro-Wakefield comments at the NY Times blog. They were both censored out. It appears as though the Times is censoring some (though not all) of the pro-Wakefield comments to make it appear as if this debate is largely one-sided, and that those who doubt the official government position on vaccines are few and far between.

There is nothing much we can do about this. The Times will continue to try to control the debate on this issue as much as they can, until it is no longer possible to shield the public from the truth. Thankfully, that time appears to be approaching quickly!

John Stone

The NYT article is a curious object. While Andy seems to be unhelpfully reported, comments taken rather obviously out of context etc, Ms Dominus (is that her real name?) seems to have been forced to consider certain things which are not commonly reported in the mainstream media. It is almost like the NYT are postioning themselves in case at some time in the near future they have to backtrack. However, what is really frustrating about these dicussions (and this even goes for Bob MacNeil) is that they happen in a parallel universe in which the US government has not already acknowledged that vaccines cause autism.

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/amazing-us-news-report-%e2%80%93-part-iii-autisms-causes-how-close-are-we-to-solving-the-puzzle/

So, who is the maverick?

I also don't think it is very graceful of Tim Buie to rubbish Andy's contribution in the way he does.

cmo

The Wakefield NYT article is here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/magazine/mag-24Autism-t.html?amp

.....Few theories have drawn so much attention and, in turn, so much refutation: a 2003 paper in The Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, which reviewed a dozen epidemiological studies....

As always with epidemiology,

GOD could write a child's vaccine sensitivities on their forehead with a red marker, and it would never be picked up by epidemiologists,

because they never meet, observe, or test any of the children. They study only data that they muck-over until it shows what they are paid to produce.

Those who have had their vaccines removed from the market still practice "medicine or liability free witchcraft" in the US.

Kerbob1

Sylvia,

http://xrl.in/8v05

Carol

The circovirus contamination of rotavirus vaccines is thought to be from trypsin. And they've known since at least 1999 that trypsin is contaminated with circoviruses. I note that a representative of Merck was in the audience for this discussion:

"DR.ONIONS....So I think they may come up as potential cell substrate contaminants, but also in our serum, in our trypsin, and so on. Of course trypsin is full of of course circoviruses...."


And earlier in the discussion, disturbingly:

"DR. HAYFLICK....Also I was wondering whether there's some reason why you omitted the mention of trypsin as potential source in your discussion of substrates or media supplements for prion transmission. I didn't see trypsin as a component. Was there some reason for that omission?

DR. CASHMAN: Just blanking out. So thank you for adding that to the list."

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/NewsEvents/WorkshopsMeetingsConferences/TranscriptsMinutes/UCM056219.pdf


I'm not sure why anyone in the developed world would give a rotavirus vaccine to her child.

Beth Appel

Could some of you comment on this New York Times blog on the subject of an article about Andrew Wakefield? http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/autisms-unrepentant-guru/

The comments are all so one-sided. I'm trying to think of what to write - not sure I have the energy to get into a debate. The last time it happened to me was so frustrating, especially when it was a group of intelligent people who become sheep when it comes to vaccines.

Ottoschnaut

Considering the Wakefield article in today's NYT, I would say three strikes and a ball.

I never realized how stupid and gullible I am until the Times so kindly pointed it out for me. That Wakefield is the world's best snake charmer. He could make a a lion lay down with a lamb, so charismatic is he!

shelly meier

It's nice to take a deep breath, and feel like were making progress and all the exhausting advocacy that we do is starting to pay off. I pray it keeps unraveling for these horrible liars!! I am so enjoying this, bout time!

Jen

This was a hilarious summary of the goings on of late, loved it!

Sylvia

Well done Dan! I can't stop laughing at the picture in my head of Saint Paul of the Syringe!

cmo

Brian Deer is on tour of the USA ??? Where is that little rascal ? I'll take a box of donuts to the show.

Not much last night with the PBS "Causes of Autism" episode. They talked only to the "genetic research side" who have not found a damn thing in 10 or 15 years...

and then to get the "other side" of the story, they asked the "same people" why "they know" that vaccines cannot have anything to do with Autism. It was even stated that vaccinated children are less likely to be Autistic and some children have genes their parents do not have...

Do they not know that a "sudden genetic epidemic" from the USA to England, to China to Somilai is impossible ??? Not a word on Simpsonwood or Hanna Poling of course.

Do they think that the genetic dimwits will then someday find any useful treatments of any kind for a "complex multi-gene disorder" ??? Of course any genetic treatment would have to be in the form of a vaccine so the industry does not have to be responsible for what happens...

victor pavlovic

Great article Dan, the only other person that would go on that list would be Bill Gates, the population controlling, poison injecting Antichrist Disciple.

Jenny Allan

In the UK we have never been 'subjected' to the likes of Proffit, Nookie or Nitwitzer!!!...and thank God for that, although we get plenty of political and medical establishment generated lies and misinformation about vaccines thrown at us!!

We also appear to have successfully 'exported' Brian Deer to spread his poisonous lies on those US and Canadian speaking tours.(Who or what is paying for these?). No UK university would give a 'platform' to this medically and scientifically UNQUALIFIED nasty little hack.

In the US at least, it appears that the 'walls of Jericho' are crumbling. Soon they will crash down spectacularly.

US folks. ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY!!!

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