Fiona Godlee of BMJ Responds to Wakefield Questions
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Mr. Gates, Dr. Julie Gerberding Told Dr. Gupta Vaccines Cause Autism, Did You Forget?

Julie gerberding It wasn’t Andrew Wakefield who said vaccines cause autism Mr Gates, it was Julie Gerberding…and she told Sanjay Gupta

By John Stone

“Now, we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So if a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism. “

Julie Gerberding, present head of Merck’s vaccine division speaking to Sanjay Gupta on the subject of the Hannah Poling case when she was still head of the Centers for Disease Control.

The one thing Sanjay Gupta’s interview with Bill Gates on Friday did not do was add to informed, intelligent discussion about vaccine safety. What we undoubtedly had was a commercial for Bill Gates’s global vaccine programme, and the repetition of a lot of unpleasant allegations about Andrew Wakefield which do not bear examination.  Perhaps the single point that he most has to answer if he wants to say that kind of thing is to explain how Wakefield could have changed data under the noses of 12 senior specialist/consultants, who then failed to say anything about it for 13 years or more, despite the continuing controversy. And by the way Gupta has to answer it too. Just because these things were claimed in a once respectable medical journal does not mean that they are remotely credible. What Gates says contradicts what Gerberding told Gupta, and what Wakefield told Gupta.  It was also not what he heard from John Poling (HERE ). So Gupta should not be sitting there like a block of wood saying nothing: it leads to mistrust.

Let’s just examine briefly the implications of what Gerberding said in that interview three years ago.  According to a CDC study from 2006 (HERE ) 33 out 1800 infants (nearly 2%) suffered a fever of 39.5 or higher, although there was no long term follow up. By now it is also established the mitochondrial dysfunction is a common feature in autistic children and much higher than in the general population (JAMA Mito Dysfunction in Autism ,  and Mitochondrial dysfunction can connect the diverse medical symptoms associated with autism spectrum disorders , Novel plasma phospholipid biomarkers of autism: mitochondrial dysfunction as a putative causative mechanismMitochondrial dysfunction in autism spectrum disorders: a population-based study ). Commonly adverse reactions are not monitored or investigated in any detail – it is left to families to bring legal actions – if they dare, or have the energy left. So actually we have no means of tracing the impact of vaccines on this issue. As Bernardine Healy, a former National Institute of Health director, warned on CBS news you cannot actually rule it out unless you study sub-groups (CBS News HERE ).

However, despite all the obstacles the US vaccine court has paid out more than $2b on MMR and DPT related claims since 1988 (HERE ), although claimants are well advised to stress neurological impairment rather than autism, which is a non-specific  psychiatric diagnosis  (HuffPo HERE ).

The most likely reading is that only a tiny percentage of cases ever get compensated, but even if they were the only cases Gates would be guilty of perpetuating a fairy story: on the best reading vaccines are only relatively safe, meanwhile the fact that they can cause autism has been conceded by the US government both on the legal and scientific front: a more pertinent question in the circumstances is “how often?”.

One thing I regret about Gates’s intervention is the blood libel against advocates of greater vaccine safety and caution: such events have not happened to his children so perhaps he should not really comment. Of course, it is very easy to design studies that do not find anything. Cochrane’s review of MMR sifted 5,000 studies, reviewed in detail 31 epidemiological studies (supposedly the best) and declared them to be “largely inadequate”, against which the failure to detect any connection between the vaccine and autism must be measured (BMJ HERE ).  The bare faced hostility manifested against ordinary citizens reporting damage is suggestive of a bullying and unscientific attitude towards facts.

Gates has for long been reckoned one of the richest men in the world, and the most successful, if not the best, manufacturer of computer softwear. The success, above all, has been in making sure virtually everyone has to have his products. He now seems poised to try and repeat the success with vaccines, but unless he employs a lighter hand it is unlikely to be without much human damage.

John Stone is Contributing Editor for Age of Autism, in the UK.

 

Comments

Walter

Bill Gates is a very fortunate failure. He could never produce one version of his software that didn't repeatedly crash. So how does that make him an expert in vaccines?

Gates and his wife should take the 10,000 vaccines their hero, Dr. Offit, states is harmless for infants. If they survived, I would be satisfied that vaccines are safe. So until the Gates' and Offit shoot up those multiple IV bags of vaccines, my children and I will abstain from getting any vaccines.

Anti-vaxxer who learned the hard way

I seriously doubt Gates had his own children vaxxed. Someone has to carry on the depopulation and infertility program he is part of. I worked for a medical doctor which is where I learned the facts about vaccines and many, many doctors do not vaccinate themselves or their families. They know better. They are too deep in to get out of it though. Years of study and debt. Hard to walk away from it. They must, at least in some places, tell their patients to get vaccines. It's an extremely unethical business being a doctor in the Western world.

John Stone

Hi Media Scholar

I am not sure what it is I haven't said here which has put your nose out of joint. There are many things I didn't say here, but the article was thrown together in a hurry on a Sunday afternoon just to make one or two points which I urgently felt did needing making.

It is obviously important to look at Gates's investments and business connections but there wasn't time, though I hope AoA will be looking at this in due course. I did note while doing a small amount of research that the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation seemed to have divested itself of its pharmaceutical investments sometime between 2007 and 2010, so they may feel sensitive to at least certain kinds of criticism.

Media Scholar

Apparently, John Stone doesn't consider the fact that Gates is heavily invested in Merck and various other vaccine manufacturing drug companies as a reason for attempting to stop the bleeding?

Of course, since vaccines back-fire causing Autism and other neurological disorders he is facing blow-back from foreign countries unwilling to slash the throats of their youngsters.

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"We are in the midst of an international epidemic. Those responsible for investigating and dealing with this epidemic have failed.

Among the reasons for this failure is the fact that they are faced with the prospect that they themselves may be responsible for the epidemic. Therefore, in their efforts to exonerate themselves they are an impediment to progress.

I believe that public health officials know there is a problem; they are, however, willing to deny the problem and accept the loss of an unknown number of children on the basis that the success of public health policy - mandatory vaccination - by necessity involves sacrifice.

Neither I, nor my colleagues subscribe to the belief that any child is expendable. History has encountered and dealt with such beliefs. You, the parent's and children, are the source of the inspiration and strength for our endeavours; our quest for truth through science - a science that is compassionate, uncompromising and uncompromised.

I do not mean to stir you to mutiny, but be assured that armed with this science it is in your power to force this issue, in your pediatricians office, in Congress, in the Law Courts. Keep faith with your instincts - they have served you well." - Andy Wakefield, April 22, 2002

NancyMullanMD

I agree that Gates and his associates are in very deep sh*t and that they fully know what they are up to. It is hard for me to fathom that people as ordinary as we have to be the ones to take them on. Immunocontraception is cruel and destroys the lives of everyone involved. These guys do not care what they do to anybody, least of all a third worlder. I can understand how Gates came to think the way he does. A prestigious person takes him to see all the suffering, sick, dying masses and then says, wouldn't it have been better if these people had never been born. Of course he agrees and then he funds the program. It's a psychological reflex to identify with the powerful, even when they are Malthusians, and even when they caused the suffering in the first place by pillaging the area in question as opposed to developing it. Conveniently, they never mention that. It's appalling to me. It's even more appalling that I, who grew up on an ordinary street in an ordinary town with no silver spoon anywhere, should be taking this on. None of us alone can do a thing, however, 'we are not helpless, we are many...' I think we need to do something about people like Gates. We need to go after them. Exposure works. Boycotts after the exposure work. We really have our work cut out for us.

Media Scholarini

If you eat without washing your hands and you don't get sick from that, you don't need a vaccine.

If you sit in the waiting room of the local medical clinic for forty minutes and don't get sick from that, you don't need a vaccine.

If you visit the acute care center full of sneezing, wheezing fully vaccinated people and don't get sick, you don't need a vaccine.

If you visit the sick and palsied at the local hospital and you don't get sick afterward, you don't need a vaccine.

Ah, but you could be the carrier of something making everyone else sick...

Well that is completely unproven anecdotal bologna.

They are zero studies that consist of following you around town then blood testing everybody to see if you have made them sick.

And in the highly remote possibility that unsubstantiated claim is true everybody you meet that gets sick from you doesn't need a vaccine, do they?

So what are vaccines for?

AutismGrandma

Re: "Gates has for long been reckoned one of the richest men in the world, and the most successful, if not the best, manufacturer of computer softwear."

Mr. Gates has proven his intelligence and business skills in the area of computers, but he is woefully uneducated regarding vaccines. He doesn't even have enough sense to simply get on his computer and research vaccines online like the rest of us. If he ever does, he will finally figure out that he has just been scammed by the vaccine industry as their single biggest customer, who will be paying for millions of vaccines that will produce untold damages.


ChrisS

STOP THE BULLSHIT CDC!!!!!!!!!!

Polio vaccine effectiveness US data manipulated?

Hi Loralai,

Please click through to the link. The article which is also only about polio. The article argues that the 1954 very high baseline number of polio cases, on which the 96% reduction claim is based, uses a much broader standard than the one used in counting the 1961 number. See below. They are not comparing apples to apples in arriving at the 96% figure.

This doesn't mean that the vaccine did not contribute to the reduction of polio cases. It may mean that the role of the vaccine in the reduction is intentionally exaggerated.

Here's more from the article:

"For many years the medical profession assumed that when they saw paralysis with a particular cluster of symptoms, it was poliomyelitis. The 1954 Francis Trials of the Salk vaccine [2] triggered a reconsideration of this assumption, and a major change in the diagnostic criteria.

How were polio cases counted in 1954?

In 1954 most health departments worked with the WHO definition:

“…Signs and symptoms of nonparalytic poliomyelitis with the addition of partial or complete paralysis of one or more muscle groups, detected on two examinations at least 24 hours apart.” [3, p. 88]

How were polio cases counted in 1955?

In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials: residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset. [3, p. 88]

Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic criteria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease in 1955-1957, whether or not any vaccine was used. At the same time, the number of nonparalytic cases was bound to increase because any case of poliomyelitis-like disease which could not be classified as paralytic poliomyelitis according to the new criteria was classified as nonparalytic poliomyelitis. Many of these cases, although reported as such, were not non-paralytic poliomyelitis. [3, p. 88] (emphasis added)"

patrons99

Good grief! We are all in some very deep sh*t, folks. If anyone thinks that Bill Gates, et al, don't know exactly what they are up to, they really should rethink the issue.

"According to the World Intellectual Property Organization, which is part of the United Nations, scientists from the organization are developing vaccines specifically to damage fertility as a method of contraception. A suggested ingredient for the vaccine is tween 80 (polysorbate 80):

"In a preferred embodiment the vaccine comprises oil, preferably a biodegradable oil such as squalene oil. Typically, the vaccine is prepared using an adjuvant concentrate which contains lecithin in squalene oil. The aqueous solution glycoprotein is typically a phosphate-buffered saline (PBS) solution, and additionally preferably contains Tween 80."

(Fertility Impairing Vaccine And Methods of Use' This application claims the benefit of U. S. Provisional Application No. 60/070,375, filed January 2,1998, U. S. Provisional Application No. 60/071,406, filed January 15,1998).

As it is a preferred ingredient, scientists are obviously aware of its ability to cause infertility."

Why isn't this in the mainstream media? Is it not a thoroughly damning indictment?

http://www.suite101.com/content/polysorbate-80-causes-infertility-a60320

http://www.infowars.com/polysorbate-80-in-swine-flu-vaccines-infertility-in-humans/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/10/15/fluarix-flu-vaccine-that-can-cause-infertility.aspx

WILLIE

VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM


Loralai,

Why did'nt poor black children get Polio at the same rate as white children? The Polio ratio for impoverished black children in the 50's, and they were impoverished, was black:white 1:300.

THAT IS A HUGE STATISTICAL DIFFERNCE 1:300 BLACK TO WHITE POLIO
WHY?

If you knew this answer, WHICH YOU DO NOT, you would not make the kind of uniformed statements that you are making.


The Polio Vaccine was a failure and has cost more lives and money in the long run than the disease could ever have caused, the results were an inflated hoax, a canard, another and possibly the first of many vaccine drug dealer scams.

THESE PEOPLE AND THE VACCINES THEY SELL ARE NOT WHAT THEY SEEM
THEY ARE FAKE, FAKE, FAKE

VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM

Raymond Gallup


Dear Sarah,

I'm anti-vaccine because our son was born normal and regressed into autism after receiving the MMR vaccine and other vaccines. In other words he had an adverse reaction to vaccines that he never recovered from and is permanently damaged. You owe no explanation to Loralai or any other pro-vaccine person.

Our son developed severe aggressions after receiving 3 hepatitis B vaccines in 1992/1993. He was terminated from school for his aggressions and we had no respite care help. Our son, Eric would head-butt, bite, kick, scratch and pull hair. He would go after his sister, his mother and me, his father. In 2003 he bit and broke my left index finger and in 2009, he did the same to my right thumb. He has been in an out-of-state residential center in Delaware since August 2004. We can no longer take him home on weekends or even take him out for lunch because of his aggressions (not only would he attack us but could hurt a person who would be in the vicinity). We visit him every other weekend and it is a 2 and 1/2 hour drive there and then back. We bring in lunch to the school and an aide sits with us while we have lunch and read him books.

One last thing. Imagine making funeral arrangements for your son. We had to do that since we got state funding for his funeral when he gets older and passes away. As you can expect my wife and I were very sad and emotional about this.

So people that are pro-vaccine can attack us and our children/adults but they should realize they do not walk in our shoes. They will never experience the pain and suffering the families and kids with autism go through. That is why I don't care a rat's ass about what they say about us. They don't see what happens to the child who becomes an adult with autism and what the child/adult goes through along with their families.

By the way, where Eric resides, there are children as young as 13 to 16 who live there and I suspect even younger. My wife says they all have autism. The families are from all over...New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, etc.

One note, no one should ever have to make funeral arrangements for their son.

Ray Gallup
New Jersey

Loralai

@Polio vaccine effectiveness US data manipulated

You seem to ignore, by throwing around a lot of numbers, that you can simply compare polio rates pre-50's to rates a decade later and see a huge decrease in polio.

You seem to also ignore that it is documented in numerous countries that have had polio outbreaks that the introduction of the vaccine has nearly eradicated it only 2-3 years later.

And once again, I wasn't commenting on other vaccines. I wasn't commenting on the US or another developed country. I wasn't commenting on ways I would spend millions of dollars of someone else's money.

I was commenting on Polio.

Nora

Could not of thought of a better way to spread the word. This is the name of the new album out by a new alternative band called the Vaccines!
http://www.weallwantsomeone.org/2011/01/04/the-vaccines-announce-debut-album-what-did-you-expect-from-the-vaccines/

patrons99

“What is causing the huge increase in Acute Flaccid Paralysis?” Good question! Thank you for the link to the insidevaccines article.

Once “conquered” diseases are making a comeback? Shouldn’t we be asking why? Maybe we should just “put our heads in the sand” and it will all work out for the best.

http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Diseases-In-The-Vaccinated
http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Diseases-In-The-Vaccinated-Page-2

The theory of vaccine-induced herd immunity to diseases has been effectively discredited. A new theory of vaccine-induced herd susceptibility to diseases can be proven or disproven with a prospective study looking at all-cause mortality, disease-free survival and biomarkers for vaccine-induced injury in humans. Disclaimer: I'm not a biostatistician.

Couldn't such a study be foreshortened if interim analysis showed a strong trend towards increased morbidity and mortality in the fully vaccinated population compared to completely unvaccinated.

C. Hicks


"Behind every great fortune, there is a crime."

- Balzac

Polio vaccine effectiveness world data manipulated?

What is causing the huge increase in Acute Flaccid Paralysis?

In 2000 WHO announced:
"There were 719 cases of wild poliovirus in 2000. This represents a 99% reduction in cases since the programme began in 1988, with 350,000 estimated cases from lameness surveys. [5]"

Note the similarity to the announcement of a 96% reduction in the U.S. by 1961, based on enlarged pre-vaccine numbers and selective post-vaccine numbers....

...Over 600,000 people coming down with some degree of paralysis in a period of 13 years seems like cause for concern.
The Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), spearheaded by national governments, the World Health Organization (WHO), Rotary International, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and UNICEF, is the single-largest, internationally-coordinated public health project the world has ever known. Since 1988, more than two billion children around the world have been immunized against polio thanks to the unprecedented cooperation of more than 200 countries and 20 million volunteers, backed by an international investment of more than US$ 5 billion. [6]

$5,000,000,000.00 and 20 million volunteers.

What about the 608,832 cases of AFP worldwide since 1996 (not counting the 26,014 cases of AFP from January 1st through May 21, 2010)?

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/polio-and-acute-flaccid-paralysis/#more-829

Erik Nanstiel

Gates is donating billions to vaccinate the world. He does NOT WANT TO HEAR that vaccines could be unsafe on a large scale. He is committed to his agenda. It is up to US to convince the world that current vaccination practices and safety oversights need to be TOTALLY REFORMED.

Polio vaccine effectiveness US data manipulated?

“... (T)he U.S. is presented with numbers like this:

…in seven years the Salk vaccine reduced the incidence of polio in the United States by more than 96 percent, from 38,476 reported cases in 1954 to 1,312 in 1961. [5]

These statistics are simply not accurate. The 1954 “polio” data includes all paralysis.  While some of this may have been from polio, in reality, much of it was from other causes.  With the change of diagnostic criteria in 1955 that reduced case numbers, followed by laboratory testing that excluded vast numbers of other causes, the 1961 data only includes the small subgroup of paralysis caused by poliomyelitis. This is then compared with the catch-all 1954 definition. Because it was impossible to know what proportion of 1954 data were really caused by poliomyelitis viruses, the 1954 data was left as it was, and nothing of the back story is revealed to the readers. When people say: “we know the polio vaccine saved us from huge epidemics of this devastating disease” they are basing their knowledge on misinformation.”

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/polio-and-acute-flaccid-paralysis/#more-829

Sarah

Loralai,

Most of us vaccinated our kids b/c we believed in vaccines and assumed they were safe. I blindly trusted the vaccination program. I destinctly remember that I wanted my son to have all his shots because I wanted him to have a healthy start in life...how ironic that he developed a life long, chronic, neurological condition.

The minute anyone (even a parents who vaxed) questions the safety of vaccines they're accused of being "anti-vax".

We feel our children are victims of an overly aggressive vaccine agenda. We feel that the system has run amok and does not take into consideration those who are at high risk for adverse reactions. Children are getting hurt by the very thing that's suppose to protect them but noone seems to want to hear that.

There this attitude that it's okay to throw some kids under the bus "for the good of the herd". Well no, it's not okay...I for one have a BIG problem with that.

Why can't the pro-vaccine camp admit that some children are too sensitive? That maybe, just maybe we're overdosing our kids and that too much of a good thing is a very bad thing for some kids.

I've seen pro-vax side make statements like "well, your child should be forbidden from attending school if you don't vax." So now the pro-vaccine side is trying to leverage my childs education of child b/c they are so fanatic about vaccinating...this as extremist behavior. Schools are for educating not for pushing drugs on kids.

I'm tired of Pharma exploiting our kids with drugs and vaccines and I'm tired of being pushed around. Vaccination has and always should be a personal choice not a mandate.

The pro-vaccine side has been increasingly more militant such as mandating shots for healthcare workers in NY or face termination.

This bullying as to stop. Kids are getting hurt. That's why we push back. That's why we fight.

kathy blanco

Bill Gates is no immunologist or virologist. And I agree, the man is a liar on all sort of fronts. But the bottom line really is this isn't it? Vaccines can and do cause, underlying, chronic, infections in humans. They are not the only route to ASD, they are just the express train for many, otherwise healthy, children... What are you willing to sacrifice for the "Herd", for Merck fiscal earnings, for your Dr's bonus and office luncheon?
Especially when they are based on long term "belief" patterns and not actual science. You know, the kind that does long term safety studies, the kind that combines vaccines and see what they do to t and b cell immunity, the kind which actually tracks children on the full schedule and those who never did to see how much autism, seizures, adhd, and other neuroimmune and immune disorders are in both populations, keeping special attention to the first three or four years of life? Oh that's right, we can't go there....it's not "ethical"...sigh...

ann

@Loralai - I think you may be the person who is missing the point. The position of people in this AoA community is not anti-vaccine. We too would like to save the lives of children, but we would also like to protect the quality of those lives. Not all vaccines are safe, and just like any medical product or procedure, they should not get a blanket safety approval just because they make a lot of money for some very powerful people. There may very well be a place for vaccines, but those vaccines need to be thoroughly tested for safety both in isolation and in combination. This article is about Gates because he is perpetuating untruths about vaccine safety track records.

JessicaF

Lorelai - I'm sorry, but you're confused. Either that or your "glaring numbers" aren't the same as my "glaring numbers." The polio vaccine did not reduce polio by 90%. Ah, how simple things would be if that were true! Clean water and sanitation did. Polio persists in third world countries that have raw sewage feeding into the same water lines they get their cooking and drinking water from. So no matter how many vaccination campaigns in third-world countries we wage, the disease will not go away. How much good could Bill Gates do if he put his billions toward a clean water and sanitation program?

It's like saying the tetanus vaccine has eradicated tetanus. People don't get tetanus like they used to anymore because we all stopped stepping in horse shit and other fecal matter when we started driving cars - it's got nothing to do with the vaccine.

The polio vaccine has a long and dirty history to boot. Go read "The River" - the whole thing - and then let's hear how great you believe the polio vaccine really is.

Shiny Happy Person

Bill Gates' entire fortune is built on a lie. He sold a product that (as far as he knew) didn't exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCn8IkEuHKk

Microsft has a long ugly history of lawsuits (Patent infringment, Antitrust). In the early days, for example, Microsoft licensed it's product to computer manufacturers based on a fee for each system sold. Arguably much better operating systems were left in the dust as the manufacturers had to pay MS for each box going out the door, regardless of what was included (or not). Having computer manufacturers pre-install his software to the exclusion of competitors and other "Black Ops" marketing strategies - this is what carried Gates to the top. He may be brilliant as a businessman, but IMHO he's far from being a model of integrity. I don't think he's evil, but sticking a needle into a kid isn't the same as sticking them with a crappy operating system. There are some potential casualties here. It's not all about market share.

Ironically, in the film, when Ballimer asks why IBM would want to make a deal with "a bunch of bozo's like us", it's Gates who responds "because they're successful, success is a menace that fools smart people into thinking that they can't lose".

Arguably one of the smartest, most successful people on the planet - I wonder what he thinks about self fulfilling prophecies...?

Loralai

This isn't about Bill Gates. This isn't about the MMR. This isn't about vaccination in the United States. This isn't about Andrew Wakefield.

This is about polio.

A devastating disease that, no matter how you look at the numbers, has a vaccine that has reduced the incidence in children by 90+%. It is not without it's own drama, but why can't any of you just admit... for once... that a vaccine does indeed save children's lives. It seems that you are so intent on your own agenda that, even with glaring numbers in your face, you would hurt a cause that is saving children's lives because it might be seen as weakening your position.

patrons99

Adriana - "women and children are being chased down on the street and forcibly vaccinated". Wow! That's quite a graphic image. I hope that journalists are reporting on this at the scene. Kind of gives meaning to the phrase "the Ugly American". Of course Gates is just using proxies to vaccinate the Third World. Prayerfully, nothing like that could ever happen here at home. Or could it? :-(

Theodora Trudorn

Oh gee, who am I going to listen to? A doctor who has spent YEARS researching the subject, or a computer guru?! I mean come on!! That's not even a difficult question to answer!! *rolls eyes* This, seriously, is what makes me dispair for humanity. This utter lack of willingness for people to think for themselves!! Willful ignorence has been the slayer of millions, and the enslaver of people since the beginning of time! I don't understand it, I truly don't! Do they just don't want to believe? I mean that is understandable to some point, but at what cost are people willing to remain ignorent? How many more people have to die, get sick, become disabled? HOW MANY MORE?!

Adriana

Thank you as always, John.

With Gates I'm afraid we're seeing the "Peter Principle" in action: he's risen to the level of his own incompetence. What thicket of advisors is he surrounded by who have deputized him as a medical expert on public health? How have they factored risk/benifit in this case and how many human rights and eggs is it okay to crack to create the omelette they have in mind? I'm deeply concerned about the resentment in developing countries which rises with their childhood disability and autism rates.

Because while Seth Mnookin spawns the most recent viral soundbite about how the-third-world-thinks-American-parents-are-forgetful-and-crazy-for-rejecting-all-that-vaccine-manufacturers-offer because those countries are desperate for the shots, we're getting reports from Nigeria-- one of BMGF's target countries-- that women and children are being chased down on the street and forcibly vaccinated. The middle classes are reportedly also being intimidated and misinformed into accepting a live oral polio vaccine deemed too dangerous even for the untested American vaccine schedule and the cheapest, dirtiest full thimerosal shots our philanthropists are foisting on them.

Carol

Is autistic regression less common after receiving Merck MMR than GSK MMR? More? Same?

patrons99

I'm off-topic a bit, here. Please indulge me.

Do vaccines and vasoconstrictors have anything in common? Real question. I recall looking at 3-D volume reconstructed cerebral perfusion scans of a normal patient compared to that of a habitual cocaine user. The cocaine user’s brain scan looked like Swiss cheese! It is well-known that cocaine use is associated with sudden deaths.I have wondered for quite a long time why brain MRI reports so often reference chronic small vessel ischemic changes. Why are lacunar infarctions of the brain so common? Why are renal and hepatic “cysts” so common? Could these findings represent microvascular infarctions which are ischemic in origin? I’m reminded of a first-round draft pick for the Boston Celtics who dropped dead suddenly while "celebrating" his new contract. I suspect that many of these sudden deaths are probably arrhythmogenic in origin. The same underlying vaccine-related pathophysiology is likely to be involved in both the brain (seizures) and heart (arrhythmias), and the entire body. Mitochondrial dysfunction is likely to be a marker of microvascular ischemia. Here’s why:

“Sestamibi Kinetics May Distinguish Between Viable and Infarcted Myocardium”

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/729277

“Effect of mitochondrial viability and metabolism on technetium-99m-sestamibi myocardial retention” by P. Crane, et al

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7678396

Sarah

According to published reports, 1 in 200 people carry mitochondrial DNA mutations that pre-dispose them to disease, so how many other kids like Hannah Poling are out there? Mitochondrial DNA mutations are NOT rare.

Large Reservoir Of Mitochondrial DNA Mutations Identified In Humans

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080811200144.htm

Here are more Mito-autism links...

Do our kids have a form of mitochondrial disease that manifests as autism?

Fever Plus Mitochondrial Disease Could Be Risk Factors for Autistic Regression

http://blog.autismspeaks.org/2010/03/11/fever-regression/

Mitochondrial Disease in Autism Spectrum Disorder Patients: A Cohort Analysis

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003815

Mitochondrial Oxidative Phosphorylation (OXPHOS) Dysfunction:
A newly emerging category of Autistic Spectrum Disorder
Information for Primary Care Physicians

http://www.mitoaction.org/files/OXPHOS%20awareness%20for%20local%20pediatricians-%20updated%20Feb.%202010.pdf

Zed

I also know DOZENS of unvaccinated children whose parents would gladly offer them up for studies. As they become adults, I feel certain that most of them would also be compliant with ongoing LIFELONG observation. The rabid-vaxers always hint at the impossible confounders within these 'unusual' groups (typically citing the Amish) but my question is this: would a healthy diet and lifestyle among the unvaccinated be an important "finding"? Besides being spared the toxic load of SEVENTY DOSES of SIXTEEN different vaccines, would the ageless principles of health and hygiene be such a horrifying revelation?

Jen

I volunteer my two autistic unvaccinated children for study. really. truly. if a lack of kids is the problem, here's two.

tony bateson

Research is a fertile area for vested interests to translate their money into positive support for their products. The tobacco industry created 'good science' on the back of this proposition. But they overlooked the one person who said 'Why is it that nine out of ten patients in cardio-thoracic wards diagnosed with lung cancer were formerly smokers when only one in three of the general population smoke'?

It's the same with vaccines. If only kids who were vaccinated or exposed to vaccine materials become autistic then it's the vaccines isn't it. Forget the 'good science' that's the rubbish that industry diehards foist upon an unsuspecting public.

Tony Bateson, Oxford, UK

patrons99

Excellent post, Mr Stone! Entire books could be written about the lack of journalistic balance, fairness, and professionalism, in the mainstream media on the subject of vaccines and the autism epidemic. Sanjay Gupta's interview of Bill Gates is a case in point. George Stephanopoulos' interview of Dr Andrew Wakefield is another case in point. Why is there no balance in the press? Perhaps it has to do with the media deriving obscene amounts of money from pharma's DTCA?

I have a short comment on mitochondrial dysfunction. Here's a hypothesis that can be tested: mitochondrial dysfunction is a biomarker for microvascular ischemia and instability of blood flow dynamics. Why might we wish to test this hypothesis? Because the technology presently exists to study perfusion and viability - PET, SPET, and fMRI. Where am I going with this? We need a robust biomarker of vaccine-induced injury to the body - the entire body, that can be applied to humans and, initially, to non-human primates. If these biomarkers can be validated, and their sensitivity and specificity delineated, biostatisticians can predict the proper study size necessary to power the definitive prospective fully vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated comparison in humans.

Here's a comment from one of the VAXERs at HuffPo, recently:

“No one anywhere in the world is going to allow a study to be done following from birth a group of unvaccinated children. As to epidemiological studies, some research is being done into their feasibility. I've read that for a study to be powerful enough to distinguish a 10% difference, more never vaccinated children would have to be enrolled than are in the United States. That's leaving aside the issues of matching vaccinated and unvaccinated groups sufficiently so the only difference is vaccination status and also the problem of getting enough unvaccinated kid to participate. Knowledgeable vaccination opponents know that the vaccinated versus never vaccinated studies are a safe gambit.”


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