Bill Gates on CNN: They Kill Children (Vaccine Safety Advocates)
Do you recall the ending of David Kirby's book Evidence of Harm? "The United States, at the dawn of the twenty-first century, is not exactly the most beloved nations on earth. What if the profitable export of our much vaunted medical technology has led to the poisoning of hundreds of thousands of children? What then? What then indeed. And why not a push for clean water and basic sanitation, the bedrock of public health success in every industrialized nation on earth?
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Davos, Switzerland (CNN) -- Microsoft founder Bill Gates sat down recently with CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta in Davos, Switzerland. The billionaire philanthropist was attending the World Economic Forum to push his mission of eradicating polio by 2012. Gates, through his foundation, also pledged $10 billion to provide vaccinations to children around the world within a decade.
Gupta asked Gates for his thoughts about the alleged autism-vaccine connection. He also asked: Who holds ultimate accountability for the billions of dollars being spent on aid? Is a certain amount of corruption and fraud expected? Below is an excerpt of their conversation.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Ten billion dollars [pledged] over the next 10 years to make it "the year of the vaccines." What does that mean exactly?
Bill Gates: Over this decade, we believe unbelievable progress can be made, in both inventing new vaccines and making sure they get out to all the children who need them. We could cut the number of children who die every year from about 9 million to half of that, if we have success on it. We have to do three things in parallel: Eradicate the few that fit that profile -- ringworm and polio; get the coverage up for the vaccines we have; and then invent the vaccines -- and we only need about six or seven more -- and then you would have all the tools to reduce childhood death, reduce population growth, and everything -- the stability, the environment -- benefits from that.
Gupta: There has been a lot of scrutiny of vaccines recently -- specifically childhood vaccines. There has been a lot of news about is there a connection with autism, for example. What do you make of all that? Dr. [Andrew] Wakefield wrote a paper about this [in The Lancet in 1998] saying he thought there was a connection. And there were lower vaccination rates over a period of time as a result in Britain, then the United States. What are your thoughts?
Gates: Well, Dr. Wakefield has been shown to have used absolutely fraudulent data. He had a financial interest in some lawsuits, he created a fake paper, the journal allowed it to run. All the other studies were done, showed no connection whatsoever again and again and again. So it's an absolute lie that has killed thousands of kids. Because the mothers who heard that lie, many of them didn't have their kids take either pertussis or measles vaccine, and their children are dead today. And so the people who go and engage in those anti-vaccine efforts -- you know, they, they kill children. It's a very sad thing, because these vaccines are important.
Gupta: Developing the vaccine. The scientific research that goes into that, obviously, is one thing, and then distributing things, even after they've been created, [is another]. Someone said to me once that even if the cure for HIV/AIDS came in the form of a clean glass of water, we still wouldn't get rid of AIDS in the world because of actually distributing some of these things. How do you address a challenge like that, no matter the money?
Gates: Well, there are fantastic ways of getting vaccines out -- a system that has been built up over the years. In the case of smallpox, they just used the vaccine and they eradicated the disease all the way back in 1979. We cover about 75% of the world's children with the vaccines. Vaccination is pretty special because you can do a vaccination campaign anywhere in the world. All you are doing is gathering women from the villages, getting them the vaccines and asking them to go around and find the children. And then you pay other people who are independent to come in, look at the children, survey, and see what the coverage rate is. You also have clear indicators. Measles will always show you if someone isn't doing a good job on vaccinations. Kids will start dying of measles. So we know, when we spend money, that the group we asked to do that vaccination, they've delivered.
Gupta: You talk about smallpox being a little bit of a model in terms of proof of principle that it can be done. D.A. Henderson -- Donald Henderson -- who was with the World Health Organization at the time this was done, has said look, when you talk about polio, is this more of a movement rather than a public health initiative using objective evidence. And I think what he was saying is that, should this be more about annual immunizations rather than trying to find this moment in time?
Gates: Well, when you talk to mothers whose children who are paralyzed, I think, no matter what you label it, it should be about getting rid of this evil disease. I don't think there is any philosophy that suggests having polio is a good thing. The world has been very careful to pick very few diseases for eradication, because it is very tough. After smallpox got finished, the lesson from that was the miracle of vaccines, not that we should immediately take on other diseases.
Gupta: You have talked about Afghanistan, Pakistan and the polio vaccine, and you've said that doing this, the vaccination campaign, can help stabilize a war-torn region like this.
Gates: What you are seeing is that the density in the poor areas is greater than they can grow the food, greater than they can educate, greater than they can provide jobs. So you create these hot spots of instability. So even if all you care about is national security, these health things are a very cheap way to make sure you are not going to have turmoil that would eventually affect the whole world.
Gupta: Is there a diplomatic part of this? The fact that your foundation, others organizations and partnerships are doing this. Is that part of it?
Gates: The general idea of the rich helping the poor, I think, is important. That your sense of justice says, why should rich kids -- who barely get these diseases and almost never die of them -- why should they get the vaccines, when poor kids, who actually do die from these diseases, don't get those things? It's an unbelievable inequity that there isn't that access. It's been 15 years, usually, between when rich kids get vaccines and poor kids do.
Gupta: There was an article about concerns of corruption and fraud with regard to the Global Fund. Do you expect just to have a certain amount of corruption and fraud -- just say you know what, to do the work that we do, we have to expect and accept a certain amount of that?
Gates: Well the Global Fund does a fantastic job. [It has seen about 3% or 4% of the money it spends not be applied properly.] And they had a few grantees where the percentage was high enough that they cut them off and switched away from the government to another form of delivery. Because you don't want patients to die. You just have to find someone that does the honest delivery. So yes, you are going to have some. It's fine.
This is saving lives for well less than 1% of what you would spend in the rich world. And if you think lives are created equal -- this at least says well, are they at least worth 1%. And that's ignoring the sickness you avoid.
There was a survey recently that showed half the kids in Africa, because of infectious disease, have IQs of 80 or lower. That's cerebral malaria, that's malnutrition because their brain doesn't fully develop. And if you want them to be stable and on their own, you have got to make sure that terrible sickness, that permanently hurts them their entire life, is not there.
By and large, it is the one health intervention that can get to everyone. In fact, it is so simple, people often forget what a big deal this is. The 2 million people that would have died from smallpox now don't think, "Wow, I'm alive today because of vaccinations," but that's the case.
I forgot to vaccinate my computer and it caught a virus.
Posted by: haha | February 13, 2019 at 01:39 PM
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/05/12/vaccination-dangers.aspx
Posted by: Bob thompson | January 15, 2015 at 12:36 PM
Absolute lie!
From Gates' mouth -- does he know?
Hard to have to sit through and listen to it.
Posted by: Benedetta | June 04, 2014 at 12:35 PM
Nonaht Leyte states:-"As someone old enough to remember what it was like BEFORE common vaccinations were available (born in 1952), the uninformed, literally clueless rhetoric I see being blithely put forward as "established fact(s)" here (and on similar anti-vaccination forums) is just infuriating!"
I get 'infuriated' too, by persons parading their 'seniority' as evidence of superior knowledge, denigrating all vaccination concerns as 'clueless rhetoric' and labelling us all anti vacciners. (I am pro vaccine safety).
Paul Offit is good at this; to listen to him you would think the 1950s was the 'dark age' of childhood. In fact, healthwise, it was a 'golden age'. Children then were healthier than now, in spite of widespread poverty. In those days -and I remember them very well, being rather older than Nonaht Leyte,- as children we were vaccinated against polio, diptheria and smallpox. Whooping cough vaccinations came later, too late for my family. We all caught it and survived intact, as well as catching all those other childhood illnesses, including measles, mumps rubella and chicken pox.
Tuberculosis was rife but only those children testing negative for antibodies were vaccinated. In my Scottish school class of 30+ children roughly 50% already had natural immunity. Any person wishing to work within health or education was required to submit to a chest x-ray every 3 years to check for TB. This was discontinued more than 20 years ago, but unfortunately tuberculosis is coming back into communities, fuelled by AIDS and other immune compromising conditions.
A resurgence of child measles, mumps and whooping cough cannot be blamed on non vaccinating parents, statistics appear to show many, if not most of these infections are occurring in vaccinated populations. So much for 'herd immunity'. If Andrew Wakefield was to blame then surely measles outbreaks would have occurred sooner in unvaccinated persons? 16 years have now elapsed since that fateful Lancet paper and, we are assured MMR vaccination rates are at high levels. MMR vaccinated teenagers are now contracting mumps when they go to colleges or universities. This is a universal scandal which is being deliberately suppressed.
The MMR is widely credited with reducing measles incidence in the UK, but this is untrue. Child single measles vaccinations were introduced in 1968, 20 years before MMR vaccine. My own 2 daughters received measles vaccine at 18 months old. The younger one caught wild measles at 3 years old. Yes, it was nasty and left her with scarring. Leaving out the reasons why the vaccine failed, I was told by a doctor no less, that vaccinating children against measles had resulted in a nastier wild measles disease. This also appears to have happened with pertussis (whooping cough), which has caused fatalities in babies too young to be vaccinated. Of course in those 'bad old days' a mother's natural immunity would have protected her baby during those first few critical months of life.
As for influenza. Yes this can be nasty, but these vaccines still contain mercury in the form of Thiomersal preservative. Forget all that rubbish about ethyl/methyl. It's still mercury, a neurotoxin. The smaller the baby the more the toxin. Disgraceful! Also, flu vaccines are not an exact science but are formulated annually from guesswork as to which viral strains will be dominant. Some recent studies have indicated these vaccines rarely provide proper protection against flu.
Posted by: Jenny Allan | June 04, 2014 at 10:22 AM
Nonaht,
While you spared your children the measles, mumps, chicken pox and influenza during their childhood, pray hard that your children don't come across those pathogens as adults, when the temporary immunity from the vaccines, if there was any immunity from the vaccines, wanes. I'll pray for them too. Meanwhile, I'm going to fight for sanity, honesty, responsibility, and removal of conflicts of interest leading to known corruption in the arena of public health and uncompromised medical freedom for every global citizen. By the way, Merck's own virologists filed a whistleblower suit against the company for inflating the efficacy of the mumps vaccine. Merck is the only manufacturer licensed in the US to produce the vaccine and it has been sold to the US gov't and American public under false pretense. Am I anti-vaccine for pointing that out to you? Thought I'd mention it since you are so worried about the mumps. I am a couple of years younger than you and my memory of the mumps was that I had to sit on the couch for a while. My neck felt a little full. That was it. Sorry you had such a bad time. I don't think that your experience is typical and I don't think that public policy should be formed on atypical cases when the risks for the entire population outweigh the benefits. As in...you are here to tell about it and you have lifelong immunity. Who knows if your kids have any protection at all.
Posted by: Linda1 | June 04, 2014 at 09:12 AM
"Nonaht Leyte"
If you were born in 1952 in the developed world you survived what had become by then mostly just rather inconvenient infections which 50 years earlier under different conditions caused high infant mortality. The problem that many here confront is that because of the very same institutional biases and conflicts which you recognise in psychiatry it is apparent that vaccines are neither as safe or effective as state and medical ideology make out, and many have cause for regret. Perhaps, if you haven't had the experience of it all going wrong ,you will just ignore as anecdote those who have. But the people who monitor the policy are the people who implement it - they bear professional responsibility and they are also in bed with the manufacturers (who are the same people who manufacture psychiatric medicines).
Gates is an interesting case because fundamentally he is an entrepreneur who often broke the rules in pursuit of making sure the entire world had his softwear. Now it is his vaccines, which by and large he sells as magic bullets. The reality of what they do is infinitely messier.
Posted by: Mercky Business | June 04, 2014 at 04:09 AM
As someone old enough to remember what it was like BEFORE common vaccinations were available (born in 1952), the uninformed, literally clueless rhetoric I see being blithely put forward as "established fact(s)" here (and on similar anti-vaccination forums) is just infuriating!
ALL substances we ingest, inject, insufflate, etc., have the inherent ability to cause all manner of morbidity and mortality in succeptable persons. Seafood, nuts, milk(s), antimicrobials, anti-virals, anti-hypertensives, anxiolytics, beef, pork - the list is *literally* endless. The question is not whether a certain vaccination can cause significant harm: the question is whether the probability of harm is outweighed by the probability of the desired outcome. As we have seen with Polio, smallpox, and dozens of other diseases, the benefit to risk ratio is *clearly* on the side of benefit in the vast majority of cases.
I had most of the childhood diseases that none of my children have had to suffer through: measles, chicken pox, mumps,influenza (which came very close to killing me in the 1968 (1967?) pandemic. I am forever grateful that my children did not have to experience what were literally the tortures of the microbial and viral world. One of my worst childhood memories is mumps - with a pair of grapefruit sized glands surrounding my neck and throat, making swallowing near impossible because of the pain; a loss of voice (which is *incredibly* terrifying (and frustrating to a young child!); and a fever which was high enough to require ice-baths. Why would I risk putting my kids through that when the probability is near 100% that the disease can be prevented, and without ANY side effects from the vaccination itself (other than a wince, maybe a small scream of startled pain, and a sore arm for a day or two)?
As for the "Autism" argument: has it occurred to any of the anti-vac crowd that the issue may not be an actual increase in autism, but rather an increase in the *diagnosis* of Autism Spectrum Disorder? The DSM5 is a manual for diagnotics for the psychiatric practioners, and it has categorized almost every possible childhood behaviour as some newly discovered "disease" state! Where as the "Terrible Twos" used to be considered a perfectly normal rite of passage from infancy to toddlerhood, under DSM5, it can be "diagnosed" as any one of a dozen (maybe more, I stopped there) "psychiatric disorders". This is just a way for the psychiatric ommunity to make up more "diseases" for them to "treat" - note that I didn't say "cure", because, amazingly for a "medical discipline", psychiatric illnesses are never actually "cured" (according to every psychiatrist I have ever worked with), these psychiatric "diseases" are merely "managed - a lifetime boon for the practitioners of psychiatry! Not only are they artificially creating their own "diseases" for them to diagnose, they are creating these "diseases" which require life-long "treatment" by the very same psychiatric community that makes the supposed "diagnosis": think about that - every kid they diagnose becomes a PERMANENT addition to their practice's census! What a great scam! And make no mistake, psychiatry IS a scam. Any honest psychiatrist will admit this openly to a medical colleague (usually with a smirk and a snide comment about how their own kids have to make it through college and then post college education).
As much as I hate the CULT of $cientology, they got ONE single thing right: the psychiatric "game" [read: SCAM"] - see the "CCHR" ("Citizens Commission On Human Rights", a $scieno front group, at http www.cchr.org for more, and very accurate, information!).
Our fight should not be against the evidence based and long ago PROVEN value of vaccinations, rather, it should be with the psychiatric community behind all of the fear of the various "disorders" which they expand into perpetuity with each new revision of the DSM!
Posted by: Nonaht Leyte | June 04, 2014 at 03:39 AM
40-FORTY children became paralyzed in Chad,Africa out of 500 kids in a small town(8%)after injected with the new Meningitis vaccine.
Gates,he is causing lot of pain,heartache,damage everywhere his money goes.
They will spread autism and chronic diseases to Africa.
Posted by: oneVoice | January 13, 2013 at 09:13 PM
Please deliver us from Bill Gates, who clearly forgets to think before he speaks! Time after time.
Posted by: JPower | July 24, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Pamela,
"This transcript needs to be corrected. Listen to the video then the first answer from Gates. They do not match. In the following answer, the section from "We have to do three things in parallel" on is completely incorrect. He never mentions Polio or ringworm. "
We get a long shot of Gates at that point in the video so it looks to me like the section has been edited out but it's still in the CNN transcript.
There are other edits too. Edited out of the transcript is Gates saying, "Over half the lives saved by medicine come from vaccination" (5.54) And edited out of the video is this important section:
"There was a survey recently that showed half the kids in Africa, because of infectious disease, have IQs of 80 or lower. That's cerebral malaria, that's malnutrition because their brain doesn't fully develop. And if you want them to be stable and on their own, you have got to make sure that terrible sickness, that permanently hurts them their entire life, is not there."
Perhaps Bill Gates read Sonja's excellent comment, the first on this post.
It's ironic that Gates gets that "diarrheal episodes" affect brain growth and development when most doctors don't investigate or treat diarrhea in children with regressive ASD:
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/annual-letter/2011/Documents/2011-annual-letter.pdf
And on the subject of smallpox eradication. If Bill Gates really believes that all they did to eliminate smallpox was "just used the vaccine and they eradicated the disease all the way back in 1979", then he really needs to do some research:
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2010/11/03/small-pox-big-lie/
Posted by: ATSC | February 15, 2011 at 04:36 AM
When the Internet really started to take root in households around the world (particularly when broadband started to proliferate) it was a trivial matter to connect to any Windows PC on the planet and harvest the contents. Trivial. Millions of copies of Windows were released in this state. Microsoft either knew this and did nothing about it (negligence), or they were unaware (incompetence). There's no in between. IMO they (marketers) chose to let it ride, as they (the deveopers) were smart people, but not the ones calling the shots. The alternative - fixing the problem - securing their operating system - would inevitably be costly - apps would bomb, release dates might slide. None of this of course would leave the customer any worse off. The carnage that followed was hacker's paradise, and a testament to how things work in big business. They took advantage of millions of people who just didn't know any better. Now Gates is filthy rich, while some poor sucker is still trying to recover from having his own personal finances wrecked because of the holes in his PC that he didn't know about.
I'm not anti-Windows or pro-Windows. I've just learned that when it's Microsoft delivering the package, you need to understand that it has a LOT of problems, and you need to either take appropriate measures to reduce the risk, or leave it behind. Buyer beware. Deja vu.
Posted by: Shiny Happy Person | February 08, 2011 at 05:24 PM
This transcript needs to be corrected. Listen to the video then the first answer from Gates. They do not match. In the following answer, the section from "We have to do three things in parallel" on is completely incorrect. He never mentions Polio or ringworm. Though he did mention reducing population growth which is really weird.
"Bill Gates: Over this decade, we believe unbelievable progress can be made, in both inventing new vaccines and making sure they get out to all the children who need them. We could cut the number of children who die every year from about 9 million to half of that, if we have success on it. We have to do three things in parallel: Eradicate the few that fit that profile -- ringworm and polio; get the coverage up for the vaccines we have; and then invent the vaccines -- and we only need about six or seven more -- and then you would have all the tools to reduce childhood death, reduce population growth, and everything -- the stability, the environment -- benefits from that."
Posted by: Pamela | February 07, 2011 at 11:04 PM
@ WI-38, MRC-5, RA27/3: Free free, set us free
Re: immunocontraceptive vaccines
Don't forget to add polysorbate 80 and triton 100 to the toxic cocktails. These ionophores are phase transfer catalysts have been associated with infertility.
http://www.infowars.com/polysorbate-80-in-swine-flu-vaccines-infertility-in-humans/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/10/15/fluarix-flu-vaccine-that-can-cause-infertility.aspx
http://www.suite101.com/content/polysorbate-80-causes-infertility-a60320
"According to the World Intellectual Property Organization, which is part of the United Nations, scientists from the organization are developing vaccines specifically to damage fertility as a method of contraception. A suggested ingredient for the vaccine is tween 80 (polysorbate 80):
"In a preferred embodiment the vaccine comprises oil, preferably a biodegradable oil such as squalene oil. Typically, the vaccine is prepared using an adjuvant concentrate which contains lecithin in squalene oil. The aqueous solution glycoprotein is typically a phosphate-buffered saline (PBS) solution, and additionally preferably contains Tween 80."
(Fertility Impairing Vaccine And Methods of Use' This application claims the benefit of U. S. Provisional Application No. 60/070,375, filed January 2,1998, U. S. Provisional Application No. 60/071,406, filed January 15,1998).
As it is a preferred ingredient, scientists are obviously aware of its ability to cause infertility."
Good grief! We are all in some very deep sh*t, folks. If anyone thinks that Bill Gates, et al don't know exactly what they are up to, they really should rethink the issue. These are crimes against humanity. Why isn't this in the mainstream media? Is it not a thoroughly damning indictment?
Posted by: patrons99 | February 07, 2011 at 06:18 PM
OK, so he says this:
There was a survey recently that showed half the kids in Africa, because of infectious disease, have IQs of 80 or lower. That's cerebral malaria, that's malnutrition because their brain doesn't fully develop. And if you want them to be stable and on their own, you have got to make sure that terrible sickness, that permanently hurts them their entire life, is not there.
Is he sure that it's cerebral malaria and not just plain ole malnutrition? I mean seriously, what happened to clean water, good food, and good sanitation?
Posted by: Julie | February 07, 2011 at 05:14 PM
SOFTWARE and vaccines...I don't see how these two things can be paired. Just because he is one of the richest does not make him one of the smartest. Stick to computers Bill, clearly you have no clue about vaccines and the harm they can do to a perfectly healthy infant or child. Better yet, since you have so much time and money... why don't you fund the study for vaccinated versus un-vaccinated children and show the number of children with Autism in each category? Now that would be doing something to help children all over the world rich or poor!
Posted by: Kimmiecakes | February 07, 2011 at 02:35 AM
Sounds like he spends too much time on computers and not enough time on learning about vaccines. Why is he so big on vaccines anyhow? There is always a reason people do things, always.
Posted by: Heidi N | February 06, 2011 at 11:04 PM
Population reduction from vaccines can be achieved via immunocontraceptive vaccines, a new frontier in vaccine development. Such vaccines contain antigenic material specific to pregnancy or reproduction, ex. the vaccine would target hormones that are only produced in pregnancy or sperm-specific proteins. If you put reproduction specific proteins in a vaccine with a viral or bacterial carrier plus an adjuvant to boost immune response, then you can induce the human or animal's own immune system to target, attack and destroy the protein thereby also attacking and destroying the fertilized egg, the early embryo, the sperm target, etc.
The result is vaccine-induced, immune system mediated contraception.
Google it. Last I did the results were horrific with many immunocontraceptive vaccine trial patients' pregnancies not terminating according to plan, ie. mid trimester miscarriages, still borns, extreme pregnancy complications etc.
Even if it were a reasonable idea from an elective informed consent perspective, the results indicate great risk to mom and babes and in Africa, India and other places where these vax would be deployed the lack of access to hospitals to deal with these emergency pregnancy complications make it a bad policy.
Additionally routine rubella vaccines and chickenpox vaccines contain DNA and protein that is human fetus specific from the aborted human fetal cells used to propagate the vaccine viruse and manufacture the vaccines. Wonder if they are contributing to the problem of infertility that many couples face.
Posted by: WI-38, MRC-5, RA27/3: Free free, set us free | February 06, 2011 at 10:51 PM
I absolutely love how he is just using the "mothers" as the ones who are at fault. Put him in a room with a bunch of "mother warriors" and see how much he changes his mind once they are done with him. This is just a bunch of ignorance on his part. It is clear that he hasn't done his research and he's just taking what Dr Gupta and other like him are saying at face value. This just makes me so angry that people like this run their mouth without knowing their facts. I'm sure if one of his children were on the spectrum he'd feel differently. Maybe he would then realize that choosing to use SAFE vaccines or none at all to save your other children is the best decision a "mother" can make.
By no means do I believe that it is only on the mother. I was just referring to his very strong use of the term.
Posted by: Stacie Chaffin | February 06, 2011 at 09:44 PM
"why should rich kids -- who barely get these diseases and almost never die of them -- why should they get the vaccines"
That's what we want to know too Bill! So parents can count on your support of exemptions then?
Posted by: samaxtics | February 06, 2011 at 06:25 PM
I'm sure Gates is well-intentioned, but the subject of vaccination is a little more complex than he seems to understand. Let's hear from a person, a very conservative doctor according to an award-winning journalist, who does understand:
"Turning to the vexed subject of MMR vaccine, certain consistent features emerged over the years that, while difficult to interpret in the absence of a non-autistic comparison group, certainly raised questions about a cause-effect relationship. Affected children had often been vaccinated while unwell with fever or while on antibiotics. Some had mistakenly received two doses of the vaccine in quick succession or were given many vaccines, including MMR, on the same day...merely for the sake of convenience. Many of the more severely affected children were rechallenge cases who, despite regression following the first dose, had been given a booster MMR with catastrophic consequences. I was later to discover, to my dismay, that this applied to Child 2. In combing through his records, I found a signed consent form for an MMR vaccination when he was only 4 months of age....My suspicions are that he was part of an experimental trial that went badly wrong and has never been reported. I suspect this because at that time, another mother from the same part of the country as Child 2 was invited to have her own son participate in an experimental trial of MMR vaccine in infants. Apparently, this vaccine trial was abandoned, and when one of the nurses involved in the trial offered to disclose the details to this mother, she was threatened with loss of her job." _Callous Disregard_, p. 43, hardcover
Posted by: Carol | February 06, 2011 at 05:17 PM
Here i will do the research for you- bill gates, since you have Not done it regads vaccine dangers and the damage they cause.
www.thinktwice.com
www.909shot.com
www.vaclib.org
www.vaccinationdebate.com
www.jabs.org
www.vaproject.org
www.vaccineinfo.net
www.vactruth.com
www.vaccinationriskawareness.com
http://www.nvic.org/diseases/autismsp.htm
one in every 65 children now have autism spectrum disorder due directly to vaccines,or mothers getting vaccines while pregnant
Posted by: G Tyler | February 06, 2011 at 02:54 PM
There is no limit to what can be injected into humans. This is Un-Godly. BIO, Gates, and the GAVI alliance have gone wild. This is dangerous. We should all understand the law of unintended consequences, thoroughly.
http://www.truth-it.net/immunization_awareness.html
“If the elite have the power to mandate vaccination, and indeed they do, there is no limit to what can be injected into humans.”
“The Journal Science Interviews J. Craig Venter About the first “Synthetic Cell”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rUrlzdK3k
MEDICAL FREEDOM
END MEDICAL FASCISM NOW
END VACCINE MANDATES NOW
EDUCATE BEFORE YOU VACCINATE
Posted by: patrons99 | February 06, 2011 at 12:57 PM
““Polysorbate-80 – One Less Mouse, Researchers Found”. Hmmmm. They must have meant one less mouse to ever suffer from a “vaccine-preventable disease”. :-)
“Immunization Awareness and Sterilization”
http://www.truth-it.net/immunization_awareness.html
“If the elite have the power to mandate vaccination, and indeed they do, there is no limit to what can be injected into humans.”
Gates’ and Smerk’s “investments” do not depend on everyone “choosing” to be inoculated. Medical freedom is not part of the equation. Implementation of the plan does not depend on the sheeple continuing to naively roll up their sleeves. Mandates will be brought to bear, ostensibly “for the greater good”, to implement the Malthusian objective.
Consider all of the potential uses for polysorbate 80, triton 100, and sodium borate. Vaccine “madness” has barely scratched the surface. It is completely unchecked and out of control. Government endorsements, advanced market commitments, and liability waivers, are now commonplace. We are “sitting ducks” for a perfect storm. Consider the law of unintended consequences.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/UnintendedConsequences.html
Consider food vaccines and genetically-engineered mosquitoes as flying-syringes. Consider putting artificial life forms into the vaccine schedules. Implausible you say? With vaccines, they have the motive, means, and opportunity to commit crimes against humanity on a scale never seen before.
http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=BAE7F6323813CFAFB8338173FB11D429
“...in my opinion, these vaccines are turning us into genetically-modified organisms” – Suzanne Humphries, MD
Posted by: patrons99 | February 06, 2011 at 12:10 PM
I see more "witch children" in Africa's future... sad.
Africa Child Witchcraft or Autism Symptoms.
http://www.theautismnews.com/2010/07/09/africa-child-witchcraft-or-autism-symptoms/
Posted by: Sarah | February 06, 2011 at 11:14 AM
I guess Bill Gates hasn't read the package insert for Tripedia.
Posted by: kim spencer | February 06, 2011 at 10:04 AM
Population Reduction
I don't believe Gates in this instance means anything more than that people will have fewer children if they believe they are going to survive. I am sure he isn't saying bluntly he wants to kill people's children, but the expansion of the vaccine programme delivering vaccines faster to children who have nothing like 'Western' living conditions, and with the mercury amongst other toxic substances, is just playing roulette. Even if you, for example, saved 20 children by killing 10 it would not be an ethically acceptable intervention. You will do them a much greater favour by providing clean water and vitamins (but there is no money in it).
Posted by: John Stone | February 06, 2011 at 09:57 AM
Did I read right - Population reduction !! Was that a misprint, or is he aiding Population reduction by adherring to vaccinations. Im sure that is what he is leading to.
Im sure I read correctly amongst everything else - population reduction - Good Lord !!!!
Posted by: Population Reduction | February 06, 2011 at 09:25 AM
Bill Gates,
If your going to spread the polio vaccine to the world with your money fund, than please,
right now, set up another money fund for the damage that these vaccines cause these children.
JUST IN CASE YOUR WRONG.........................Thats fair right?
And one other thing, please research more data on Andrew Wakefield with an open mind. You need to meet with him and really listen to his knowledge and data. When you surround yourself with others that have the same perception as you, your always going to have the same conclusion.
I predict Andrew Wakefield will go down in the history books as fighting to change these dark ages that a large percent of our children are in now. Wake up Bill Gates please! Help the future children of the world by instead finding a test to give children before they have these vaccines. Work on making the vaccines safe, that would be a world changing thing you can do.
Linda Swanson
Posted by: Linda Swanson | February 06, 2011 at 08:20 AM
It is of course true - and characteristic of the developed world - that people will have fewer children if they think they are going to survive. If that is what Gates is saying then that part is alright with me. However, if you give infants surviving in poor conditions with compromised, immature immune systems 20 vaccines between 0 and 14 weeks, many of them laced with mercury, it is far from clear that you are aiding their survival.
Posted by: John Stone | February 06, 2011 at 08:08 AM
That much power and money in the hands of someone so fundamentalist is truly frightening.
Posted by: Chris | February 06, 2011 at 07:31 AM
Gates most ridiculous statement in this load of garbage is surely: 'Because the mothers who heard that lie,many of them didnt have their kids take either pertussis or measles vaccine, and their children are dead today.'! Really,are they? All of them ?.!!
Posted by: Dusty | February 06, 2011 at 06:35 AM
I remember a newspaper article reporting that the G8 countries were pledging vast amounts of money to develop new vaccines for the third world. One health expert said that life expectancy could be hugely increased by clean water and enough food. Obviously there is no profit for anyone in that! Why does common sense fall in the path of profit?
Posted by: Deborah Nash | February 06, 2011 at 06:13 AM
When someone starts talking about population reduction, they do not have good intentions.
Posted by: Are you kidding me? | February 06, 2011 at 04:49 AM
Cherry
The reality with Gates is surely that he is just interested in personal aggrandisement and it doesn't matter if the rest of us get hurt along the way. More than a decade into this controversy it is hard to believe that he is naieve. Just possibly he doesn't know that the allegations against Andy are themselves a fraud, but I am sure for him that would just be a detail in getting what he wants. Does it matter for him providing he can use it?
Personally, I wrote to Gates openly when he did blog a few years ago:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/comment-permalink/2116098
http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/comment-permalink/2128119
And I imagine that if any of his staff ever bothered to look at it this was water off a duck's back. What people need is clean water, sanitation, nutrition, decent living conditions -this infantile vision in which vaccines are always completely safe and effective, is not something that was ever credible to a well-informed person, which we must presume him to be. On an optimistic view of vaccines they would offer a minor contribution to world health. On the other hand they fit very nicely into the Gates business model of products that absolutely everyone has to have.
John
Posted by: John Stone | February 06, 2011 at 04:46 AM
Cynthia, The whole situation of polio in India has become a muddle and it is unlikely that any data is to be trusted.
There has been a lot of vaccination for polio for many years, but despite that, about 4 years ago a media article appeared stating that depite the vaccines, the cases of polio had actually risen. When you see this, you have to suspect that the cases of "polio" are actually cases of vaccine-polio. The govt always insists that they are not , but where is the good testing? Why have I heard of 3 cases of vaccine polio through the few people I talk about this to, just in the last 4 years ?
For the last couple of years, they have started a new system of giving kids more or less endless polio vaccines (This is probably what you have referred to). There is some kind of hypothesis behind this new experiment, it seems. Parents of kids in my school seem to be baffled and suspicious of this new program.
One of the cases described in some detail in a newspaper was interesting. A poor slum dweller had a two year old girl who contracted polio. Doctors insisted that he MUST have gone back to Bihar and brought the polio from there. The beleaguered father kept insisting that he had not gone back to Bihar and the little girl had been immunized for polio many times .
If modern systems can eradicate wild polio, it will be nice, but apparently some microbiologists doubt that this can be so easily achieved.
Posted by: Cherry Sperlin Misra | February 06, 2011 at 03:48 AM
Yet another reason I own a MAC. :)
Posted by: Libby | February 06, 2011 at 03:46 AM
Friends, This is incredible! I had been planning to write a letter to Mr. Gates, but maybe I need to rethink that. Has no one working for his foundation got a good background in microbiology?. Ringworm ? Did we hear correctly?
I believe that Mr. Gates' motives are well-intentioned but seriously misguided. It is truly sad- I thought he could do so much good in the world. Long before his 6-7 new vaccines get made, even uneducated people will smarten up about the harm done to their kids from vaccines.
Lets all ask him to prove that all the people who work in his foundation in India insist on mercury vaccines for their own kids .
Hey, friends, Maybe we do need to cut him a little slack- Remember, all the kids of my time (also his time) got at least three doses of mercury vaccines and maybe Bill sets his employees an EXAMPLE by taking flu vaccines every year.
LORD FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
Posted by: Cherry Sperlin Misra | February 06, 2011 at 02:15 AM
Bill Gates is a monopoly man just like the Rockefellers, Carnegies ect... He knows exactly what he is doing and population is going to decline.
Posted by: Mr T | February 05, 2011 at 08:08 PM
Great comments all round, Doodle your daughter,
has vision, a 12 year old, sounds more together than
Bill the Dill, Kids like her, give us confidence
for the future. I wish you and your family, all the best.
Posted by: Doug Stables | February 05, 2011 at 08:06 PM
Gates must be held to a higher standard. He should be afforded no deference, whatsoever. He has no formal training in healthcare or public health, at least, none that I know of. Thus, his credibility on the subject of vaccines and autism is ZERO. His conduct is completely reckless. He is completely ignoring the doctrine of unintended consequences. There is no room for error in any of his proposals. Millions of lives are at stake. This admitted eugenicist is recklessly endangering us all.
His is a strikingly perverse brand of philanthropy, indeed! Sadly, he is not alone in this endeavor. There are 10 embedded articles within the link below to the article titled, "“Black woman finds “Charity” of eugenics pushing Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, suspicious”. I have not had a chance to preview them, but their titles are most intriguing. It appears as though certain groups are being "selected" for "special" treatment. Hmmmmm. What's that all about?
http://info-wars.org/2010/06/21/black-woman-finds-%E2%80%9Ccharity%E2%80%9D-of-eugenics-pushing-bill-gates-warren-buffet-suspicious/
"Suspicious"? Well, yes, that's an understatement! You are not paranoid, if they really are out to get you!
Posted by: patrons99 | February 05, 2011 at 07:33 PM
So many things are wrong with this, but one thing I'm a bit confused about: how does mass vaccination manage population growth? Sorry, but mathematically that's not adding up. Is it believed that poor people will have fewer children if there is less disease? Sounds like a bit of a leap to me. Unless the vaccines themselves are a medium for population control by globally decreasing fertility. Sounds like science fiction, but when you know what we do about those multidose vaccine ingredients, I can't help but wonder....
Posted by: Holly Riley | February 05, 2011 at 07:30 PM
The World Health Organization already declared polio would be eradicated by 2000. Some people in India have been vaccinated 10 to 12 times. Mothers hide their children when the vaccinators come around and wonder why they don't bring food or water. No one mentions that in spite of vaccinating over and over again, it is still there.
http://protomag.com/assets/still-a-scourge?page=1
Posted by: Cynthia Cournoyer | February 05, 2011 at 07:26 PM
VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM
This guy is a clear example of why you do not relate money to level of intelligence outside of your area of expertise.
Bill has absolutely no CLUE to what he is talking about none zero.
When this finally comes out he will have a lot of explaining to do in his role in this debacle and genocide.
Sanjay is usual unethical self misquoting Wakefield and distorting the truth.
VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM
Posted by: Willie | February 05, 2011 at 06:58 PM
"And why not a push for clean water and basic sanitation, the bedrock of public health success in every industrialized nation on earth?"
Ahhh, so happy you brought that up...actually, the vaccine ISN'T working and Gates is realizing something else has to be done...he's gotta do some revamping...see below...
"Bill Gates walked into the World Health Organization's headquarters in Geneva—for a meeting in an underground chamber where global pandemics are managed—and was greeted by bad news. Polio was spreading across Africa, even after he gave $700 million to try to wipe out the disease."
"Mr. Gates asked: "So, what do we do next?"
"The new plan integrates both approaches. It's an acknowledgment, bred by last summer's outbreak, that disease-specific wars can succeed only if they also strengthen the overall health system in poor countries."
Hmmmm, really? Ya think?
?The plan bolsters the core "vertical" approach of polio program but also adds a "horizontal" strategy, including training for health workers on topics such as hygiene and sanitation."
Lets all remember this article, for years to come. So when polio is FINALLY a thing of the past in 3rd world countries we can remember the TRUTH is that their plan to better educate people regarding hygiene and sanitation and provide clean water was really what 'saved the day'...it was not and will never be vaccines.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303348504575184093239615022.html
Posted by: Jennifer Lewis | February 05, 2011 at 06:15 PM
Seriously!?! Dr. Wakefield and those "dumb" mothers are responsible for 1000's of children being killed. What a load of crap! Gates is so blatantly wrong on so many levels, this just makes me ill! Quick, please Mr. Gates, tell which vaccine I need to take, that you've funded, that will cure "Sick of this Sh*t" illness?
Posted by: Elsie Russell | February 05, 2011 at 06:02 PM
"get the coverage up for the vaccines we have; and then invent the vaccines -- and we only need about six or seven more -- and then you would have all the tools to reduce childhood death, reduce population growth, and everything -- the stability, the environment -- benefits from that."
Reduce population growth? Is that a slip? Does he want a vaccine to cure fertility?"
Bill Gates is one of those types that does not feel the need to elaborate, maybe because the "little people" don't need to know how his monster brain analyzes data. He has spoken during a conference about how he believes that high reproductive rates are tied to infant mortality, so therefore if you reduce infant mortality you will cause people to lose the need to have extra kids, and voila.. reduced population growth.
There are obviously a few problems with this theory, the least of which is that the US has a poor infant mortality rate, and we all know about the vaccination rate.
Bills arrogance in not elaborating on his reasoning behind blanket statements is a big problem. He clearly thinks he can just force his plans on the world with no oversight and folks will just go along with it.
Posted by: Doodle | February 05, 2011 at 04:14 PM
My 12 year old daughter suggested the other day-
"Instead of Bill Gates spending all that money on vaccines, why doesn't he build new homes, provide fresh water (rain tanks) and better sewerage for the people?"
"Wouldn't a cleaner environment and better living conditions stop most of the sickness?"
Personally I think Bill Gates should take a leaf from my daughters book, she is the next generation that won't be fooled by "BIG pHARMa" Her parents are making sure of that!
Mum also to PDD, Autistic,Non-Verbal and vaccine injured son.
Posted by: AussieMum | February 05, 2011 at 04:14 PM
STMD--he must be thinking about hookworm or another parasitic infection, which would probably be prevented best with clean water!
Posted by: Theresa O | February 05, 2011 at 02:59 PM
It just makes BIll Gates look like a moron to think that the" research" "proves" there is "no" link to vaccines and autism.
Posted by: jen | February 05, 2011 at 02:47 PM
It has become eminently clear that this guy is a total nut-job! Bill Gates is promoting a plan to use wireless technology to register every newborn on the planet in a vaccine database. Don’t we have any say in this? How many God-given personal rights does Gates’ plan violate? Let me count the ways.
“Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the planet for vaccines” by David Gutierrez on January 17, 2011.
http://www.naturalnews.com/z031031_Bill_Gates_vaccines.html
Posted by: patrons99 | February 05, 2011 at 02:03 PM
I'm sorry, but that must be a transcription error, or does Bill Gates really believe ringworm kills people? Ringworm is a skin fungus, it's treated with topical creams and it is never fatal! That is truly a WTF moment that the doctor could have cleared up. Unless it was a transcription error (I can't bring myself to watch the video).
Posted by: STMD | February 05, 2011 at 01:40 PM
How weird that he blames Wakefield for any perceived problems in pertussis vaccination uptake. I would imagine that parents' concerns about pertussis vaccination stem from this: "As of June, 2010, over half of the 2,480 awards for vaccine injury and death totaling $2 billion dollars made under the U.S. 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act involve pertussis vaccine."(http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/Whooping-Cough.aspx)
The next thing you know, Wakefield will have been the one on the grassy knoll.
Posted by: Theresa O | February 05, 2011 at 01:28 PM
take your fortune and invest in profitable vaccine stock. Then use your tax write off foundation to buy vaccines you profit from, sell them around the world (rather than give them away to raise your stock value) and then pat yourself on the back for your altruistic "giving".
Clean water and proper nutrition would go much farther on a wide variety of health issues rather than selected targeting of a disease with a program that likely forces viruses to adapt and become even more virulent.
Posted by: D's dad | February 05, 2011 at 11:49 AM
"get the coverage up for the vaccines we have; and then invent the vaccines -- and we only need about six or seven more -- and then you would have all the tools to reduce childhood death, reduce population growth, and everything -- the stability, the environment -- benefits from that."
Reduce population growth? Is that a slip? Does he want a vaccine to cure fertility?
Posted by: Rob | February 05, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Readers might want to research what Gates means by creating stability in the world by cooling off "hot spots" of disease, malnutrition, and overpopulation. For a clue, Google the following: bill gates population control.
I can't believe what I'm reading.
Posted by: Dan E. Burns - SavingBenBook.com | February 05, 2011 at 10:38 AM
I don't get Gates. He has built an amazing fortune for himself and I admire his belief in sharing his wealth. But his lack of background knowledge of his new "product" is appalling. There is no way he could have approached his earlier business ventures with such a shoddy/weak knowledge base and have had the success he has had. Also, to be successful you have to surround yourself with competent, intelligent managers and workers who know the market and the product.
This new venture into "saving" the world. Major flaw, he doesn't have the knowledge to be that leader and just who has he surrounded himself with this time? Worse yet, he comes across as though he hasn't bothered to take the time to know this new product. What makes him an expert to even ask his opinion about Wakefield? His power, and this interview in fact, only come from the prestige of being able to buy mega doses of vaccines.
And what exactly does he mean about "have(ing) all the tools to .... reduce population growth"? What does he plan to do about the mutating virus and bacteria problems - just keep buying the new and improved version? Even though in the US the vaccine makers can't be sued, could a foreign government that purchases or accepts donations of vaccines sue a US company for a defective product?
I don't know, it is early yet, but the whole premise of vaccines ultimately being able to cool off a "hot" spot and thereby creating stability in the world seems pretty far fetched.
Posted by: Shelly | February 05, 2011 at 10:17 AM
Bill Gates once said that no one would ever need more than 8 megs of RAM.
He obviously is a bit mixed up on the true value of some of his vaccine efforts.
The Offit people have provided Mr. Gates with a lifetime supply of koolade.
Posted by: cmo | February 05, 2011 at 10:13 AM
It's clear Gates is unwittingly determined to remain under the mind-control of the past and present Leaders of CDC and such as Tom Insel at NIH.
Though his (Gates) generation had maybe 4-5 immunizations (combined in 2-3 shots) at age 4-5, he doesn't sit back and reflect how incredibly healthy they were, having virtually zero autism and the other horrific consequences now rampant, escalating exponentially in tandem with increasing shots over the last 40 years.
Honest medical science such as Wakefield et al. will never get through to the Gates of the world, and he won't open his mind to begin to grasp there were 13 esteemed doctors, not just a solitary Wakefield, as authors of the Lancet paper. Gates is pitiful, but the carnage he finances cannot be forgiven.
It has fallen on the shoulders of millions of everyday parents paying attention to AoA, Barbara Loe Fisher/NVIC, VRAN (Vaccination Risk Awareness Network), the heroic doctors such as Boyd Haley, Russell Blaylock, Gary Null, and individual parents such as JB Handley and so many others to win the fight. It will happen.
Posted by: david burd | February 05, 2011 at 10:08 AM
The push to eradicate polio has seen billions in private donations by the wealthiest people in the US. Much of this money is matched by the US Government. Hundreds of thousands of human beings are being hired to go from tribe to tribe vaccinating the population with the oral polio vaccine.
The oral vaccine is discouraged from use here in the US because it causes polio. In areas where polio was fairly well beaten down we are seeing outbreaks of a mutant strain of polio.
http://www.unfoundation.org/press-center/press-releases/2010/ted-turner-visits-nigeria-to-showcase-what-modern-vaccines-can-accomplish.html
http://www.who.int/biologicals/areas/vaccines/polio/opv/en/index.html
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/health/july-dec09/polio_08-24.html
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900sid/EGUA-8D2TTX?OpenDocument
Posted by: bensmyson | February 05, 2011 at 09:03 AM
"That's cerebral malaria, (encephalopathy) that's malnutrition because their brain doesn't fully develop. And if you want them to be stable and on their own, you have got to make sure that terrible sickness, (autism) that permanently hurts them their entire life, is not there."
What exactly does he think autism is?? The idiocy and hypocrisy is astounding.
Posted by: Sonja | February 05, 2011 at 08:13 AM