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Parallel Universes: Flu Shots For Pregnant Women

Fetus Exhibit One: "The American Medical Assn., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the March of Dimes  and seven other groups sent a letter to healthcare professionals Wednesday urging them to counsel pregnant patients to get a seasonal flu shot. ... Many women fear getting the vaccine because they think it might harm the fetus. But the organizations note that the vaccine had been given to millions of pregnant women over the last decade and had not been shown to harm either the women or their infants." -- Los Angeles Times, September 15, 2010.

Exhibit Two: Official product label, written by drug maker and approved by FDA, for Fluzone flu vaccine: "Safety and efficacy of Fluzone have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers, or children less than six months of age." (HERE) (All flu vaccines, thimerosal-containing or not, include this warning.)
Discuss. -- Dan Olmsted



any woman is out of her mind that gets a flu shot when she is pregnant, out of advice of her doctor or not. I was given a flu shot back in 1982, not knowing that I was a few weeks pregnant at the time, this was my third child. Shortly afterwards, I started spotting & was instructed to stay in bed for 2 weeks, & was given morning sickness pills, which were RECALLED the following year due to birth defect issues. Well, the spotting stopped & the pregnancy continued. My son was born 6 weeks early of my due date, with a syndicalism, hand surgeon explained to me that when a woman's uterus comes apart, bands form in the amniotic fluid & cut off fingers or toes or worse or they get bound together. The child had to have 10 corrective surgeries from the time he was 2 months old til he was 2 years, then beyond. When I went back to the clinic after my son was born, I had asked to see my medical records, they didn't have a record of my flu shot, or prescription, & the physician left town, I was told, due to too many law suits of mal practice. My son today is very smart & a good father of 2 children at 29 years old. You were led to believe to trust doctors, although this was just the beginning in 1982, I still don't trust them or their vaccines. Run the other way if anyone insists on a flu shot, you just never KNOW for sure what they contain until it's too late. I blame my son's birth defects on the flu shot.

pregnant quiz

Has anyone pregnant taken a gender prediction test?

Teresa Conrick

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "true evidence that the same flu shot caused ear deformities in babies of mother's who received the shot while pregnant."

Did you hear or read that somewhere?

Chicken Mayo

Sandy, it is not the job of the NIH or the Mayo Clinic to find things. The Mayo Clinic accidently found in 2009 that children who had flu vaccine were three times as likely to be hospitalized with related illnesses.

But I don't think they've got around to publishing the study yet.


Sure, Sandy. Can we get you a sandwich and a cold drink too?


Is there any true evidence that the flu shots of 2010, given to pregnant women, resulted in babies who were diagnosed as autistic?

And is there any true evidence that the same flu shot caused ear deformities in babies of mother's who received the shot while pregnant.

I am not looking for blog responses--I am seeking evidence for NIH or Mayo Clinic.
No guess work, please.

Thank you for your assistance.


“Vaccination against influenza for women who are of reproductive age and sexually active makes sense. It isn't clear yet whether influenza vaccination during pregnancy could be helpful or harmful,” Brown added.“ One needs to weigh the benefit of protecting the woman and fetus from influenza against the potential risk of a vaccine-induced antibody elevation that could conceivably predispose to schizophrenia.” --Alan Brown


Jen in TX - "Acetaminophen is given in lots of other situations that might involve fever and/or pain, and this includes vaccine preventable illnesses!"

Call me delusional, or whatever, but I have never seen VALID, unbiased evidence that there is such a thing as "vaccine-preventable illnesses". I believe that the concept is simply a myth, a government-endorsed marketing ploy, promoted by the pharma cartel.




Last sentence says

Tylenol caused autism

I meant:

Tylenol causes asthma.

This is what happens when my family is always interrupting!


Jen in Texas

I do feel that asprin would have kept the temperature and inflamation down for my children's DPT shots where as Tylenol did not do the job - so in a way it is responsible for further damage but the vaccine is to blame. An inferior drug "Tylenol" was given at the time of a crisis of a vaccine reaction.

My children reacted every time they had a DPT shot, but not every time they took tylenol.

It is just that simple.

I gave my poor daughter all of her DPT shots inspite of high fevers, passing out, Kawasaki's because I was dumb. Treatment for Kawasaki's at that time was asprin, and I can tell you right now that Tylenol did not touch those fevers of 106.

I allowed my son to receive three DPT shots, all with high fevers, passing out, stroke and seizures.

Should my children been given asprin instead???
The answer to that was absolutely YES!

After my son reacted to his third DPT shot he kept getting high fevers weeks after the shot, and developed seizures. The peds tripled the recommended dosage of tylenol in order to keep these fevers down. Again Tylenol did not do it's job.

The only reason my son has any brians left and is going to college - now; although he is still epileptic, tourettes, OCD, organic brain disorder, and PDD-NOS is because GOD whispered in my ear and said throw out that Tylenol and start giving him asprin.

Asprin controlled the fevers wonderfully.

That is the role that Tylenol is playing in my book. It is an inferior product given at a time when the best product was so very badly needed.

Oh and my son did develop asthma briefly while taking a triple dosage of tylenol, but after stopping Tylenol it went away. That was about 24 years ago. I did not realiaze that it was the Tylenol untill recently when the studies came out that said Tylenol could cause autism.

Jen in TX

If I'm right about acetaminophen as a cause of autism, you can most definitely point a finger of blame at those who stupidly recommended acetaminophen prophylaxis before vaccination (the ACIP) in 1987, based on ONE preliminary study.

But, it still doesn't mean that vaccines *cause* autism. Acetaminophen is given in lots of other situations that might involve fever and/or pain, and this includes vaccine preventable illnesses!


Jen in TX - I'd like to share one more thought on the vaccine schedules. There are several mechanisms operating in parallel at different rates with each "inoculation". The DNA hypomethylation pathway of vaccine-induced disease is most certainly not the fastest pathway. The microvascular ischemic effect on tissue perfusion and tissue viability in conjunction with nonspecific systemic activation of our innate immune systems, possibility mediated by immune macrophages and inflammatory cytokines, is a much faster mechanism of toxicity. And while these various mechanisms are operating in parallel, at very different rates, the net effect of each individual inoculation and the net effect of the vaccine schedules is both cummulatively and synergistically toxic, sometimes manifesting as acute disease, other times as waxing and waning, subacute and chronic disease.


From "across the pond":-

@ Jen in TX,

What we call "autism" I believe to be multi-causal and multi-factorial with each individual child having its own pathway, whether genetic or environmental or a combination of factors. I've formed this belief after more than fifteen years' observation of children and reading of articles/medical research papers, etc.

For some children the reality is that the burden of mercury delivered in too short a space of time by vaccinations has caused temporary/permanent damage. For other children the final straw is the live viruses of the MMR. Further children have problems with the MMR on its own and yet another subset have problems with multiple vaccines on a single "well baby" visit. NB My daughter changed within a month of MMR having met all her developmental milestones until then. The official term is "coincidence" but there are an awful lot of "coincidences" being diagnosed in the last twenty years or so.

Your observations on acetaminophen and Waring's research on sulfation/sulphation are valid. I remember from nineteen years ago how the doctor automatically suggested "infant Calpol" (paracetomol elixir) for any minor illnesses in my daughter (who had red ears from ear infections so several prescriptions for Augmentin in the first year of her life - familiar story, anybody?).

If you (or other posters) haven't already done so, then please google "Merck MMR vaccine" and read the PDF document that comprises the Material Safety Data Sheet for the MMR II. In the list of secondary adverse vaccination reactions you'll still find "encephalitis" (brain inflammation) and "encephalopathy" (brain damage) among a list of supposedly comparatively rare AVRs.

In brief, we each of us have our own reality based on our individual experiences and those of our children (my non-ASD son asked me the other day why he was OK after the MMR and his sister wasn't - I replied that that was still the big question to which no-one yet appeared to have the definitive answer).

@ Jen in TX, I send you my very best wishes from "across the pond". ElizaCassandra.


Jen in TX - if your hypothesis is correct, wouldn't all strict vegetarians become autistic? Strict vegetarians have problems with getting enough sulfur-containing amino acids.


Jen in TX - "I'm having a really hard time understanding why some of you continue to blame vaccines..."

Well, let me try to help. First of all, I'm not sure that our views are mutually exclusive. I doubt that proper nutrition alone will prevent vaccine-induced diseases. An association alone does not prove causality. And while certain dietary deficiencies may be a sufficient cause of autism, they are not necessarily a necessary cause of autism. Consider that the vaccine schedules have literally hundreds of environmental toxins. Mercury is just one of the neurotoxins. Aluminum is most CERTAINLY another neurotoxin. I doubt that the neurotoxicity of thimerosal and aluminum is solely dependent on the nutritional status of the patient.

DNA hypomethylation may be the relevant biomarker and provide a common mechanistic explanation for how multiple environmental toxins in the vaccine schedules as well as certain dietary deficiencies may lead to vaccine-induced diseases, probably cummulatively and synergistically. I do agree with your statement that dietary sulfur deficiency is treatable. Similarly, I believe that DNA hypomethylation is potentially treatable. I'd be interested to know whether dietary sulfur deficient patients demonstrate measurable DNA hypomethylation. Have you seen this paper?

"Different signaling pathways inhibit DNA methylation activity and up-regulate IFN-gamma in human lymphocytes" by E. Pintado, et al?

Jen in TX

Re: acetaminophen: I believe the problem is not so much with glutathione depletion, but a deficiency of sulfate. The research from Waring et al is compelling evidence in need of replication. Perhaps if some weren't so anxious to pin the blame on thimerosal or MMR it would have been done already! Here's an excerpt from "Trends in Autism Research":

"If sulfate deficiency is a cause of autism, it is not only treatable, it is preventable. Children could be tested sometime after birth and treated with appropriate sulfate medications or supplements. Similar to phenylketonuria, this could be a routine practice, and could prevent the development of autism in children with this metabolic insufficiency."

A sulfate deficiency might also explain why autism is more common in males, because males use up more sulfate in metabolizing acetaminophen than females:

"Males excreted more APAP as the sulfate conjugate than females, which correlated with the twofold greater APAP sulfotransferase activity in the male vs. females."

I'm having a really hard time understanding why some of you continue to blame vaccines, when this idea seems much more plausible, and, unlike the thimerosal and MMR theories, not yet disproven!


Here's an article titled "Thimerosal Neurotoxicity is Associated with Glutathione Depletion: Protection with Glutathione Precursors" by S.J. James, et al.

"...Protection with Glutathione Precursors"!!! Sure does sound to me like there's a vitally important role for homeopathy.

We are what we eat! Don't let pharma and their minions implement Codex in this country!


“The principle role of glutathione S-transferases is detoxification of endogenous and exogenous electrophiles by glutathione conjugation,5 whereas the glutathione peroxidases catalyse the reduction … “

“Epigenetic inactivation of members of the glutathione pathway can be an important mechanism in Barrett’s tumourigenesis. “

Tylenol is not the only potential “bad actor” out there. There are literally hundreds of environmental toxins in the vaccine schedules. Thimerosal binds nearly stoichiometrically to sulfhydryl groups. The active sites of a number of enzymes have sulfhydryl groups at their active sites. QED: thimerosal is a biotoxin. This has been known for decades. I first learned it in graduate school.


As a mom to an 11 year old with autism and also pregnant, I'm stunned at how ignorant ob/gyn's are. I just sat through a lecture about how important the flu shot is and tylenol is my friend and can be taken every 4 hours throughout my pregnancy. I was warned about fish but when I brought up silver amalgams - blank stare. Yeah, she got fired. Dumb!!

Kerry Scott lANE md

PUBLIC SUBMISSION As of: July 28, 2009
Tracking No. 809c7480
Comments Due: June 08, 2009
Late comments are accepted

Docket: FDA-2009-N-0138
Joint Meeting of the Drug Safety and Risk Management Advisory Committee, Nonprescription Drugs Advisory Committee, and the Anesthetic and Life Support Drugs Advisory Committee; Notice of Meeting.

Document: FDA-2009-N-0138-0005
Kerry Scott Lane MD - Comment

Submitter Information
Organization: St. Mary's Medical Center, W. Palm Beach, FL


General Comment
Acetaminophen, Glutathione Depletion, and Regressive Autism

Acetaminophen toxicity in the liver is well established. One of the known toxic effects of this commonly used drug is depletion of the most important antioxidant,glutathione. Disease states linked to depletion of glutathione and excessive amounts of oxidized glutathione, versus reduced glutathione, include Diabetes, Atherosclerosis, AIDS, Alzheimer’s, Pregnancy Induced Hypertension (PIH), and
Regressive Autism is a condition that has defied a definitive pathobiology to
date. The attachments enclosed reveal that acetaminophen, by exacerbating an
already depleted glutathione antioxidant system due to a preexisting condition,
triggers autism in the peri-vaccination period by reducing glutathione levels to
below a critical level. Adequate glutathione levels are crucial to the effective functioning of the Metallothionein (MT) System. The MT system is involved in metabolism of metals, as is glutathione. However, the MT system is especially critical to the metabolism of Zinc in the brain. In states of depleted glutathione and excess oxidized glutathione, free Zinc is released in brain cells. This free zinc is toxic to the mitochondria, causing cellular hypoxia and a generalized neurological malfunctioning that we now recognize as Autism.
It appears acetaminophen alone is not enough to cause Autism. The co-morbid
pathobiology is due to the creation of a state of abnormal gastrointestinal biology
due to antibiotic administration to the infant. This allows the replacement of the
normal GI flora with yeast overgrowth by Candida species and others. Many
yeasts and fungi produce mycotoxins which have been shown to be pathological
to man and animal alike.
Recently interest has focused on a mycotoxin known as Gliotoxin which has
been shown to be immunosuppressive, by killing CD4 cells, along with a multitude
of other deleterious effects. Gliotoxin has been shown to form adducts with glutathione, essentially removing it from the pool of bioavailable antioxidants. Over
fifty per cent of Candida species have been shown to produce Gliotoxin.
If we envision a sequence of events that results in an undesirable yeast in the GI
tract, causing a depletion of glutathione and generalized oxidative stress, followed
by a vaccination that includes a metal adjuvant (mercury or aluminum), followed
by the administration of acetaminophen (antipyretic) to an infant- at a critical
period of neurodevelopment- we can envision the pathobiology of Autism.
The enclosed attachments from peer-reviewed articles are a roadmap to the above described pathobiology. I suggest the FDA act with all due haste to make
this material public so the autism epidemic can be properly managed. Additional
focus should be directed to the AIDS syndrome, which also involves depletion of
glutathione. It would seem acetaminophen is inappropriate in this setting, and
possibly in most settings.

Kerry Scott Lane MD
St. Mary’s Medical Center
June 6, 2009

Theresa O

Jodee, I don't know whether retailers (CVS, etc.) are requiring prescriptions to get flu shots. Is a flu shot now considered an over-the-counter drug, like Tylenol? If so, I'm not sure where the liability would rest... Maybe it depends on the outcome of Bruesewitz v Wyeth.

I read something interesting today in the Eastern PA Business Journal. Apparently, the flu shots are free at CVS and Walgreens because the pharmacist will do the charge-back to your insurance company (if you are insured) or to the non-profit organization Direct Relief USA (if you do not have health insurance).

(Direct Relief USA seems to be an above-board group that has been hoodwinked by Big Pharma into accepting the flu shot myth. I couldn't find any obvious ties to pharma, except the flu shot program that they administer together:


Is the devil in the details? Our healthcare freedoms in this country are disappearing. Here are a few recent links in support of this view. It’s the product of the marriage between the pharma cartel and government. They are acting in concert. There is no oversight or accountability. Are they acting in OUR best interest? Did we learn anything from the pandemic flu fraud and hysteria of 2009? Hmmmmm.

“States Improving Emergency Preparedness”

Here’s the latest in CME for physicians from a CME site. Look at the “action points”!

“Flu Shots May Lower Odds of MI” by Todd Neale on September 20, 2010.

“Influenza Congress: Innovation and opportunity for pharma, biotechs, healthcare and investors”


My sister and I were apparently spared major injury related to the vaccine schedules and all of the pre- and post-deployment jabs we were given while growing up in a heavily-vaccinated military family. Our two brothers were not so lucky, one with adolescent-onset schizophrenia and the other with congenital Rubella syndrome. It’s unlikely that they will reproduce, nor should they, given that one is an SSI ward of the state and the other is soon to be, once my parents die. Bill Gates was right: “If we do a really great job on new vaccines...we could lower [the population] by 10 or 15 percent”. – Bill “microsoft” Gates

Government-mandated inoculations violate our natural God-given rights. They are immoral and sacrilegious. They offend our Creator. They violate both enumerated and unenumerated Constitutional rights. Personally, on conscientious religious grounds, I am adamantly opposed to government-mandated inoculations of any kind.

Could a well-informed individual citizen draw up a legally-binding exemption and be prepared to go to court if an inoculation is mandated and administered against their will? See the Bill of Rights to our U.S. Constitution. It is extremely likely that MANY more injuries will occur due to government-mandated inoculations. MIGHT the injured have legal standing to raise the issue of the Constitutionality of the government-mandated inoculation before the U.S. Supreme Court, should the need arise? See also the Federal Declaration Judgment Act.

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney. This comment is solely my opinion and is not intended, nor should it be construed to represent medical or legal advice.


Carol - thanks so much for raising the topic, earlier in this thread.

This latest "strange" promo of the H1N1 jab for “lessening” heart attack risk is purely preemptive misinformation by pharma. If the concern as to cardiovascular risks from mass vaccination against new influenza A/H1N1 raised by S. Bhakdi, et al does in fact demonstrate hidden hazards, what better way to defeat that eventuality than by blaming the heart attacks on the virus itself.

“Less than two weeks into its mass vaccination, Sweden reported four deaths [5], among which were at least two with underlying heart condition. According to the Swenska Dagladet newspaper, there were also 350 side effects recorded [6].” Coincidence? Serendipity? Hmmmm.

The Oath of Hippocrates includes a promise not to cause harm. Have physicians forgotten their oath? The promise not to cause harm applies to ALL vaccinations. Physicians have a duty to independently study ALL of the data as to safety. Let their conscience be their guide. Present a balanced picture of risk and benefit to their patients. Insist that their patients “educate before they vaccinate”.


As I posted earlier on this thread, the media are touting a recent study which claims that flu shots reduce the risk of heart attack by 19%. The raw data actually show an increased risk of heart attack associated with vaccination and the story below addresses that:

"Before adjusting for potential confounding variables, the researchers found that those who were vaccinated had an 8% higher risk of heart attack (odds ratio [OR], 1.08; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.04 to 1.13).

But this changed when they adjusted for a number of potential confounding variables, such as vaccination target group status, other cardiovascular risk factors, and number of medical consultations in the past 5 years. After adjustment, the vaccinated patients were found to have a 19% lower risk of AMI [acute myocardial infarction] (OR, 0.81; 95% CI, 0.77 to 0.85). The most important confounders were consultation rate, previous heart disease, and diabetes mellitus.... Lone Simonsen, PhD, research director in George Washington University's Department of Global Health, another researcher who has studied flu vaccine effectiveness...noted that the unadjusted data showed no effect or even a negative effect of flu vaccination on AMI risk and that a benefit was apparent only after adjustment for confounders.... Simonsen commented by e-mail, 'Given the recent elegant demonstration of how that sort of analytic adjustment can actually move unadjusted data away from the truth and create profound mismeasurement, it is clear that this paper may have been profoundly affected by the same problem.'"


Our bodies no longer belong to us. They belong to the State.

“When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in essence, accept that the state owns our bodies." – Ron Paul, U.S. Representative

“Any parent that trusts the government with the health of their child is setting themselves up for catastrophe. And that catastrophe could very well cost them the life of their child.” – Mike Adams

Here’s the link to a youtube clip titled “Health canada whistleblower talks about H1N1 vaccine scam” from August 10, 2009, where “Dr Shiv Chopra, former Health Canada employee, talks about the health system...”.

History is repeating itself. The outcome to this year’s flu season is VERY uncertain. Let’s all pray for wisdom in these, the most uncertain of times. Personally, I don't want that sh$t injected into me or my family. Never again! Enough already. I would sooner take my chances trying to strengthen my natural immune system, not attack it.

“Flu vaccine push already underway; first batch causes seizures in children” by Mike Adams on July 31, 2010.

“Australia Bans Flu Vaccines in Children after Vomiting, Fevers, Seizures” on September 10, 2010.

“Thousands of Americans died from H1N1 even after receiving vaccine shots” by Mike Adams on January 17, 2010.

“Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents” by Mike Adams on August 5, 2010.


We cannot continue to “play the fool” for the sociopaths responsible for global vaccine policy. The handwriting is on the wall. Educate before you vaccinate!

“CDC Involved in a Cover Up of Miscarriages due to H1N1 Vaccines”

“Flu Vaccine Suspended in Australia”

“New seasonal flu vaccine to contain H1N1 strain”

“Parents recount flu jab nightmare”

“Vaccine warning - Pandemic warning”


Carol - Here's an article titled “Residual adverse changes in arterial endothelial function and LDL oxidation after a mild systemic inflammation induced by influenza vaccination”. This article seems related to the concern you expressed regarding heart attacks.

“CONCLUSION: Abnormalities in arterial function and LDL oxidation may persist for at least 2 weeks after a slight inflammatory reaction induced by influenza vaccination. These could explain in part the earlier reported increase in cardiovascular risk during the first weeks after an acute inflammatory disorder.”

Interesting choice of words: “...after a slight inflammatory reaction induced by influenza vaccination.”

Look at all of the case reports of Henoch-Schonlein Purpura and Kawasaki’s syndrome associated with the vaccine schedule. I’m afraid it’s a stretch to call each of them a “slight inflammatory reaction”.

Look at the reports of high fevers, convulsions, siezures, and kidney failure, coming from Australia this year regarding the “new” H1N1 inoculations.


Pharma, WHO, CDC, and FDA, already know that we are "sitting ducks". The vaccine schedules don't even need aluminum and thimerosal to potentiate autoimmune processes and/or cytokine storm when a "real" pandemic hits because our bodies are already "primed" with decades of aluminum, mercury, and fluoride exposure. We are alreaded loaded with aluminum, mercury, and fluoride from a lifetime of environmental chemical and biologic intoxication from pharma. How do you say "accidental" release of lab virus? All pharma and our regulators really need is a "match" to light the fire. How about a new flu jab with one of the "super adjuvants", MF59, ASO3, or Iscomatrix?

Perhaps, we should ask Dr Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon, for his opinion as to the safety of the swine flu vaccine.

“VRM: H1N1 Bio-weaponry Incorporated”

“Ukraine Flu Outbreak: Virus Is a Mixture of H1N1 and Parainfluenza, Causes Cardiopulmonary Failure”


Carol - I noticed the extreme “strangeness”, too. It sure does sound like a malicious, orchestrated misinformation campaign. The public health implications are enormous. The pandemic flu campaign of 2010 is in full attack mode. The assertion that H1N1 poses increased risk of heart attacks, coupled with the assertion that H1N1 inoculations “reduce” the risk of heart attacks, is TOO CUTE. This has all of the earmarks of orchestrated fraud, from VERY high up in the “system”. This is shaping up like a redux of the pandemic flu fraud of 2009, only worse!

“Won’t Get Fooled Again” ??? I hope not. Fool me once, shame on pharma, WHO, CDC, and FDA. Fool me twice, shame on me.

“Cardiovascular Risks from Swine Flu Vaccines”

“Seizures in Kids Linked to H1N1 flu”

Bhakdi S, Lachner K and Doerr H-W. Possible hidden hazards of mass vaccination against new influenza A/H1N1: have the cardiovascular risks been adequately weighed? Med Microbiol Immunol 2009, 198, 205-9. Doi: 10.1007/s00430-009-0130-9

The hemorheologic-hemodynamic theory of atherogenesis, while not widely accepted, has not been discredited.

"Insights into the relationship of fatty streaks to raised atherosclerotic lesions provided by the hemorheologic-hemodynamic theory of atherogenesis" by G.D. Sloop in Medical Hypotheses, Volume 51, Issue 5, Pages 385-388 (November 1998).

Andrew Moulden's theory of vaccine toxicity and the hemorheologic-hemodynamic theory of atherogenesis appear to be converging.


The study I mentioned in my earlier post actually found an increased risk of heart attack among those vaccinated. When the authors "adjusted" the numbers, the risk went away.

I think the study authors used to work for Enron.


This is one of the strangest things I've read in a while. Stories about the flu shot preventing heart attacks are popping up in Google News, but this one includes a different take on the study's conclusions:

"'The risk of getting a heart attack was reduced by 19 percent for those who had a vaccination in the past year,' said A. Niroshan Siriwardena, a professor of primary and prehospital health care at the University of Lincoln....Dr. Kirk Garratt, associate director of the division of cardiac intervention at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said the study found there were 19 percent fewer heart attack patients vaccinated in the previous year, not that there was a 19 percent reduction in heart attacks among the vaccinated."

WTF? 19% fewer heart attack patients vaccinated is a different animal from 19% reduction in heart attacks among the vaccinated. "Whom is fooling whom?" as Joan Crawford would say.

Here's the study:


@ Sarah - "By recklessly pushing vaccines on pregnant woman w/o adequate testing makes me wonder what the real agenda is."

“If we do a really great job on new vaccines...we could lower [the population] by 10 or 15 percent”. – Bill Gates

Cherry Sperlin Misra

There needs to be a special literary award for the people who write the inserts. I liked the part about Guillain Barre syndrome for example, intended to warn (and get themselves off the legal hook) while conveying a soothing tone- something akin to " If you have fallen into a quicksand hole on one occasion, and survived, it mightbe wise to consider your decision to dive into a second hole.
Who can fathom the pharmaceutical mind ??! Lots of advertising push this year? Just to make lots of bucks? It helps add to the new belief that flu is as deadly as ebola? There is somebody in the right place at the CDC this year (also maybe the same one as last year) ? Well, I know Im probably wrong, but I would like to think that their executives are unable to sleep at night, imagining that Dan and Mark's book is going to change thinking enough to dent their stock price.

Autism Grandma

117 Studies Prove that Flu Vaccines do NOT Work

The following are excerpts from an article by Dr. Mercola. The link to the entire article is below. The references to these studies are cited at this link also.

I added up all of the studies cited here and the total amount of studies which demonstrated that the Flu Vaccines do NOT work is: 117

Flu Shots Simply Don’t Work

Numerous studies have shown that flu shots simply do not work.

For example:
According to the 2006 Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, 51 separate studies concluded the flu vaccine worked no better than a placebo in 260,000 children ranging in age from six months to 23 months.

A study published in the October 2008 Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine found flu vaccines in young children have made no difference in the number of flu-related doctor and hospital visits.

As reported in a 2004 publication of the Archives of Disease in Childhood, a study of 800 children with asthma concluded those receiving a flu vaccine had a significantly increased risk of asthma-related doctor and emergency room visits.[6]

A more recent study released at the 2009 American Thoracic Society International Conference showed children with asthma who received FluMist had a 3-fold increased risk for hospitalization.[7]

And not only are vaccines ineffective in preventing flu in your children, they are equally useless for adults, including the elderly.

According to the 2007 Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, studies of over 65,000 healthy adults concluded vaccinations reduced the risk of flu by only six percent, and reduced missed work days by less than a single day. Vaccinations did not reduce the number of people who sought medical help or took time off from work.[8]

The 2006 Cochrane Database also includes a review of 64 vaccination studies of the elderly across nearly 100 flu seasons. The studies showed flu vaccines were ineffective in preventing the flu in either nursing home patients or elderly living in the community.[9]

A study published in the Lancet last year found that influenza vaccination was NOT associated with a reduced risk of pneumonia in older people. This supports a study done five years ago, published in The New England Journal of Medicine.

Research published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine also confirms that there has been no decrease in deaths from influenza and pneumonia, despite the fact that vaccination coverage among the elderly has increased from 15 percent in 1980 to 65 percent now.

Last year, researchers with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and the National Institutes of Health published this conclusion in the Lancet Infectious Diseases:
“We conclude that frailty selection bias and use of non-specific endpoints such as all-cause mortality have led cohort studies to greatly exaggerate vaccine benefits.”

Flu Vaccines Pose Significant Health Risks to Your Children

Most flu vaccines contain dangerous levels of mercury in the form of thimerosal, a deadly preservative that is 50 times more toxic than regular mercury.[10] If taken in high enough doses, it can result in long-term immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions.

Disorders associated with mercury poisoning include autism, attention deficit disorder, multiple sclerosis, and speech and language deficiencies.

The Institute of Medicine has warned that infants, children, and pregnant women should not be injected with thimerosal, and yet the majority of flu shots contain 25 micrograms of it.

It has been calculated that, by age two, American children have received 237 micrograms of mercury from vaccines alone, which far exceeds the current EPA “safe” level of 0.1 mcg/kg per day. [Maximum safe dose = 0.1 versus 25 mg. in one flu shot]

Read the entire article here:

Posted by: Eli Lilly's Thimerosal MSDS:

Eli Lilly Material Safety Data Sheet for Thimerosol [Mercury Preservative]

"Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."

"Caution Statement: Thimerosal may enter the body through the skin, is toxic, alters genetic material, may be irritating to the eyes, and causes allergic reactions. Effects of exposure may include numbness of extremities, fetal changes, decreased offspring survival, and lung tissue changes."

Autism Grandma

What's the purpose of a Material Safety Data Sheet that is entirely ignored by the medical system and government? Mercury is regulated everywhere EXCEPT for the pharmaceutical industry. They are allowed to inject this neurotoxic poison directly into human beings??!!! Let's send this Thimerosol MSDS info out to everyone we know so people can have this warning about the flu shots, including the following:

The Vaccine Industry, CDC, AMA, and FDA continually defends mercury as "safe":

"It's not that bad, really. What's a little mercury in your shot anyway? Ignore these inconvenient facts: A typical flu vaccine shot solution is 50,000 parts per billion of mercury. The EPA classifies any substance with more than 200 parts per billion as hazardous waste. (The EPA limit in drinking water is 2 parts per billion.) Thus, the mercury density in a vaccine is 25,000% higher than the level required to be considered hazardous waste. This is injected directly into the bloodstream of infants, children, expectant mothers and senior citizens. What could possibly be dangerous about that?"

NOTE: MERCURY is the most toxic element second only to Plutonium. Then there is all of the other toxic components in all vaccines, including ALUMINUM which is consistently shown in studies to exist in high levels in Autism and Alzheimers along with MERCURY. [My grandson who immediately developed regressive Autism after his last batch of vaccines, has aluminum levels off the charts at 1,160, with 100 being normal level for an adult!!!]


I saw this new study from the University of Otago cited in one newspaper as a reason to get a flu shot but I'm wondering if it's actually a good reason not to get a flu shot while you're pregnant.

"A New Zealand study of the brain mechanisms behind schizophrenia has found the illness could be triggered by an infection during the early stages of pregnancy.

The study, by researchers from University of Otago's Department of Psychology, found a one-off infection in a pregnant rat could result in long-range neural problems in her offspring....'We show that a single activation of an immune response during pregnancy can lead to adult offspring showing disrupted communication between two key brain regions implicated in schizophrenia,' she [study author Desiree Dickerson] said."

Don't flu shots activate an immune response?

The researchers activated the immune response via injection: "This neurodevelopmental model of schizophrenia is induced through a single injection of the synthetic immune system activator polyriboinosinic–polyribocytidylic acid, a synthetic analog of double-stranded RNA, a molecular pattern associated with viral infection, in pregnant rat dams."

Here's a newspaper story about it:

Here's the study;


Drug companies make a pile on flu vaccines.

"'The vaccine business is not without its risks, but for some companies, vaccines were the only bright spot in their portfolio in 2009. It's not a surprise therefore that development is heavy in this sector, and that will contribute to growth over the next five years.'

Vaccines are commonly segmented into two target markets, adult and pediatric. According to Kalorama Information, the pediatric vaccine market is larger, accounting for more than half of the total market. Pediatric vaccines are also growing at a faster rate than adult vaccines and this is expected to continue over the next five years. Pneumococcal and "combination" DTaP vaccines are driving growth in the pediatric sector, while influenza and hepatitis vaccine products are driving sales in the adult segment of the market."


We all know that flu vaccine manufacturers are exempt from liability. My question is what about these major retailers who are pushing flu shots? It would be very interesting if someone harmed from one of these vaccines sued Target, CVS or Wal-Mart for promoting such an unnecessary medical intervention in the first place. It might be the only thing that would stop these big box retailers from offering them like they are candy.

Jim Witte

> How am I going to talk my 85 year old father out of that one?

What about brain injured people in long-term care facilities? I'm sure they are vaccinated (re-vaxed) against everything under the sun.. In the case of brain-injury, there is GOOD reason to believe there is a comporomised BBB, decreased and/or screwed-up antioxidant systems, decreaed mitochondrial function, imbalanced immune activation (astrogliosis and possibly chronic microglial activation *as well*). *And* there's brain damage to boot!

> Flu prevention: Vitamin D3

And vitamin A, and vitamin K.. Vitamin K will help your blood vessels, bones, and teeth too.

"Vitamin D toxicity redefined: vitamin K and the molecular mechanism. (C. Masterjohn 2006, PMID 17145139)

“Vitamin A reduces vitamin D3-induced renal calcification by altering vitamin K-dependent carboxylation of matrix Gla protein in A/J male mice.” (Fu, Wang, et al. 2008, PMID 19022954)

“These data suggest that vitamin A mitigated vitamin D-induced renal calcification by modifying the vitamin D-induced increase in [un-vitamin-K-activated] MGP.”

Jim Witte

>Oh BTW - you can't claim broccoli is good for you or oranges help with a cold. Sad, sad, sad.

I read that the FDA went after the Blueberry Growers Association of America for citing pubmed-reference articles on their website about possibly health benefits of various chemical found in blueberries..

During the 2009 swine-flu-scare, I saw a report *on the official CBS evening news* about antioxidants (those darling chemicals of hype 5 or 6 years ago that you don't really hear about anymore..).. Guess what they were holding up as the "antioxidant source du jour"? Yep, if I recall it was.. Blueberries?

Ironic, isn't it? I should have pulled a recording of it from YouTube, and sent it to Kathleen Sebelius and said that CBS was violating an FDA-precedant for publicly talking about something that wasn't FDA approved.. (or whatever language they used in the BGA suit)

Jim Witte

> However, seizures were not so uncommon. And that makes sense because flumist goes into the nose . .
> and from there it can go right into the brain.
> Right into the brain, by way of olfactory nerves.

By way of the olfactory nerved, and perhaps directly through the BBB as well... Intranasal oxytocin may cross the BBB directly:

"Born et al. "Sniffing neuropeptides: a transnasal approach to the human brain." 2002. PMID 11992114

"Our data validate in humans the idea that intranasal adminis- tration allows peptides to penetrate into the CSF. Animal studies also have shown that peptides (insulin, nerve growth factor) and larger molecules (e.g., horseradish peroxidase, viruses) accumulate in brain tissue after intranasal administration. [..] It seems more plausible that peptide molecules travel by the extracellular route, passing through patent intercellular clefts in the olfactory epithelium to diffuse into the subarachnoid space"

Of course, this is talking about relatively small peptides and enzymes, and mentions viruses as the biggest thing looked at in animals. Whether the flu virus is small enough to get it - who knows? Could the flu virus disrupt the BBB itself and "open a hole" for itself. It seems unlikely that the flu virus does the regularly, as you'd expect to see many more neurological problems with the flu or even regular vaccines than we do. But if it's shot high-velocity straight up the nose? How much pressure *does* the FluMist actually have after being sprayed, anyway?

Jim Witte

"Can they bring hazardous waste into public buildings ???"

Interesting question.. *Could* they actually be liable on these grounds? After all, if they are using flu shots that have thim. in them - which they probably are - they would constitute hazardous waste - at least if you measure "correctly", and if there isn't a "mercury haz-mat exemption" for flu vaccines (probably is..)

In any case, this would be a way to get a spotlight on this - even if the spotlight were not specifically on *vaccines* (too much to hope for for MsM), it would perhaps wake the public up to the fact that the vaccines still have mercury in them.

michael framson

Where does this AMA recommendation fit in terms of malpractice? If a doctor recommends that you take a drug (while pregnant) for which safety and efficacy has not been established, doesn't this increase the risk for malpractice?

Danny's Voice

Since August there have been non-stop adds on the radio for flu shots - get them while shopping at your local grocer, drug store, Walmart, Target...bring the whole family, no appointments needed! And now they even have a "super dose" for seniors that's supposed to be "more effective".

Just open the registers and see the money fly in!


No, RN mommy, you're right. I've hated flu shots for years but I can almost always ignore most of the hype. I cannot remember anything like this year.

Are they still warning pregnant women not to eat fish? How can they not see the irony in injecting the same toxin that's so dangerous in the form of a tuna sandwich?

Eli Lilly's Thimerosal MSDS

From the manufacturer of thimerosal:

"Exposure to mercury in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."

"Caution Statement: Thimerosal may enter the body through the skin, is toxic, alters genetic material, may be irritating to the eyes, and causes allergic reactions. Effects of exposure may include numbness of extremities, fetal changes, decreased offspring survival, and lung tissue changes."


Yahoo put a article titled, “Pregnant Women Urged to Get Flu Shot” on line.
Here is the link to the article.

I posted the following comment:
• Cycle3man 25 minutes ago
Yeah, 90percent of the flu vaccines contain a healthy dose of THIMEROSAL, the mercury spiked preservative. My parents warned me never to inhale the mercury vapors of a broken thermeter and now these people are recomending injecting this dangerous poison into pregnant woman. There seems to be something wrong with this picture. Was my mother misleading me or do these supposed experts
have a secret agenda?

If mercury spiked-free flu vaccine is manufactureable; Why isn't all
vaccines manufactured mercury poison free? My guess is that these
ghouls make a greater profit on mercury spiked flu vaccine!!!!!

Pregnant women be forewarned!!!! I remind you these same ghouls recommended thalidomide to pregnant woman with morning sickness.
Check what that poison did to the fetus>

Paul Stefanovic

Australian experts are starting to speaking out about vaccine harm -

See a link to the Melbourne newspaper "The Age"

I wouldn't recommend it

Thank you, Dan, as always.

I developed mild Guillane-Barre after a flu shot in the eighth month of a twin pregnancy.

It's amazing the twins were as healthy as they were at birth considering, but the pregnancy dose very likely set them up for the fall later, after the seven vaccines they received in one day at age one and the 29 shots they received before two. That first misstep is a douzy.

Alison MacNeil

I got so fed up with this today, I taped my vaccine ingredient cards all over the big "Get Your Flu Shot Here" sign at the Target entrance in Watertown, MA. It felt great. You should try it.

Cynthia Cournoyer

I suppose a fetus isn't "less than six months old."

My unvaccinated autistic adult daughter may have been harmed by my having the flu in the first trimester! What if the pregnancy flu shot is another way of covering up "regressive autism" because now, they can be autistic from birth! (as mine was)


Jerks! Did they not notice that many pregnant women had miscarriages very shortly after their shot? Oh yeah, that would mean they were actually using surveillance and they're way too imcompetent to be able to put that into place. Sigh.


My local grocery store is offering 10% off your total food bill with a flu shot purchase from their pharmacy.

I thought Pharma said they didn't make any $$$ from vaccines?! Then what's the incentive for a small, regional grocery store chain to discount groceries?

How stupid do they think we are?

Meredith DiLiberto

My husband was required to get the flu (and H1N1) shot this past "season." My 2-year-old and I skipped both -- despite urgent and dire warnings of my OB (I went through flu season pregnant). Guess who was the ONLY one who got the flu? Yep, my husband! With my so-called compromised immune system during my pregnancy, I spent a grand total of 2 days sick with a head cold.


It's absoultely shameful. I can't stand walking into Target, CVS, Walmart, etc. Who wants a MEDICAL PROCEDURE done at Walmart anyway? CVS even has the sales clerks pushing it. My husband bought something there the other day and the clerk reminded him that he could go get his flu shot. His response was thanks but no thanks.


I thought I posted this earlier, my OB said, get it before becomming pregnant, don't get it during the first trimester. He's usually cautious, but as one can see, he's not moving far away from the cdc recommendations. I wouldn't be getting it ,nor my kids under any circumstances, yet, what can these patients do when they have no information. When the little information they may pick up is so quickly negated by lies from the CDC, who obviously have control over the media.

RN Mommy

Saw this on facebook today. I hope they still need informed consent although I am guessing they will make loopholes even int that!
Immunization program at Denver middle school:


Dr. Sheri Tenpenny is on the Alex Jones show talking about this exact issue. I strongly recommend everyone going to to listen to today's Alex Jone's show.


Here's some interesting info on adjuvants used in flu vaccine...


Novartis MF59® Adjuvant Fact Sheet

MF59 adjuvant: an important element in flu vaccines

John Stone

It looks as if the UK have mostly cleared out the mercury from its flu vaccine products in advance of targetting pregnant women. I suppose that's an example to the US but it is still a baffling thing to do, with little measurable health advantage and almost complete blank on safety issues, particularly in the long term for the infants. Just loads of our money at a time of international austerity for the pharmaceutical industry.


Q: How long are flumist recipients infectious to others ('shedding' etc)?

A: 7 days, at least. See abstract below.

For those who want to do a PubMed search, the acronym is LAIV. That stands for 'live attenuated influenza virus.'

The side effects are, of course, not bad -- according to official reports.

However, seizures were not so uncommon. And that makes sense because flumist goes into the nose . . . and from there it can go right into the brain.

Right into the brain, by way of olfactory nerves.

(Why would anyone take such a chance with a baby, let alone any other age.)

Here's the abstract:

Vaccine. 2008 Sep 8;26(38):4940-6.
Shedding and immunogenicity of live attenuated influenza vaccine virus in subjects 5-49 years of age.
Block SL, et al.

BACKGROUND: Live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV) is indicated for influenza prevention in persons 2-49 years of age. This study describes the incidence and duration of vaccine virus shedding and serum immune responses after receipt of LAIV.

METHODS: A single open-label dose of trivalent LAIV was administered intra-asally to 344 subjects in 3 age cohorts: 5-8, 9-17, and 18-49 years of age. Shedding was determined by culture of nasal swabs (on days 1-7, daily; days 9-25, every other day; and day 28). Immunogenicity was measured as serum strain-specific hemagglutinin inhibition (HAI) titers (days 0, 28).

RESULTS: Among subjects aged 5-8 years, 9-17 years, and 18-49 years, 44%, 27%, and 17% of subjects, respectively, shed vaccine virus after vaccination, and the mean number of positive samples per subject was 2.2, 1.8, and 1.5, respectively. Shedding occurred on days 1-11 postvaccination. Shedding incidence peaked on day 2, and maximum observed titers were highest on days 2-3 (<5, <4, and <3 log(10)TCID(50)/mL, respectively, by age group). Despite positive cultures, all titers were <1 log(10)TCID(50)/mL after days 10, 6, and 6, respectively, by age group. Shedding incidence was inversely correlated to age and baseline serum HAI titer. The seroresponse rate (4-fold rise in HAI) to at least 1 strain was 59% (68%, 64%, and 47%, respectively, by age group), and strain-specific rates were higher in baseline seronegative/serosusceptible subjects. Reactogenicity, most commonly runny nose, headache, and sore throat, was not associated with shedding or seroresponse.

CONCLUSIONS: This is the first study to comprehensively evaluate nasal shedding of LAIV in individuals 5-49 years of age. Shedding was generally of short duration and at low titers. Study findings support the current recommendation of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices that LAIV recipients should only avoid contact with severely immunosuppressed persons (e.g., hematopoietic stem cell transplant recipients) for 7 days after vaccination.


...our public schools in North Dakota are now offering them in our public schools,

I heard a story last night that flu shots would "be given away free" in Arkansas public schools.

Can they bring hazardous waste into public buildings ???

I suppose they cannot sell enough of them and have to buy off the state legislators to put them in a bill to provide them.


In 2005, one of the big concerns in groups like this one was the targeting of pregnant women for flu vaccination:

"Most alarming to Redwood is the fact that pregnant mothers and infants are now targeted to receive the annual flu vaccine when they are exactly the populations known to be most vulnerable to exposure to mercury."

I personally remembered a lot of discussion among commentators about watching prenant moms falling into line for this shot.

So, on the following summer, when headlines like this were all over the news I couldn't help wonder if this was not entirely coincidental.

"Report: 1-In-8 Babies Born Premature"

RN Mommy

I was shocked to see the push at both Target and Walmart of the flu shot. They have a sign on the door, a sign when you walk in the door and a sign as you walk further in the store. Walmart has a table with someone waiting to inject you. I find the push INSANE this year. Or maybe it is because I have my eyes wide open now.


Google FluMist package insert. :) KS


Also, what are the ingredients in the H1N1/seasonal flu MIST.......our public schools in North Dakota are now offering them in our public schools, during school hours, without parent supervision. My kids will stay home that day. How long should they stay away from the classroom/vaccinated children after so many of them get the mist?


Snakes and snails and puppy dog tails! Oh, wait, that's last year. This year it's sugar and spice and everything nice!


What are the ingredients in this years H1N1/seasonal flu shot combo??


Usual lies from the psychopaths, vaccination is the longest running lie, killer and maimer of all time.

These are the same gang who want to give pregnant African women AZT, and have caused 1 million kids to get Bipolar disorder (manic depression)from criminal prescribing of psychiatric drugs:

"the number of children and teenagers that have ended up “bipolar” after being treated with a stimulant or an antidepressant is now well over one million. This is a story of harm done on an unimaginable scale."

who would rather let you or your kid die than prescribe Vitamin C

If they didn't also own the courts they would have been done for multiple manslaughter (at best) decades ago.

25 events with Vaccine as FLU and Symptom is Abortion Bearing in mind 1-3% get reported.

Foetal damage & birth defects

and they KNOW flu vaccine is a complete hoax.


Last year during the swine flu debacle, I remember the CDC talking about vaccines producing a robust immune response and thinking to myself that's not necessarily a good thing..."a robust immune response" can trigger problems.

By recklessly pushing vaccines on pregnant woman w/o adequate testing makes me wonder what the real agenda is.

protecting woman? no
protecting the herd? no
money? they have plenty

so why the big push?

Theodora Trudorn

My mom has been in the medical field for quite sometime. She told me nothing protects you better from catching a cold or the flu then taking Vitamin C everyday and to keep up your immune by taking a multi-vitamin.

Since starting that, I can gladly say that I have not had a major cold or the flu since 2008!!!

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Merck!!

I haven't needed to get the shots since I started that regiman alongside taking Ginko Bilaboa to promote healthy brain activity and to inhance the memory and Feverfew Tops to combat the constant spasms in my legs.

I'm by far more healthier now then I was two years ago!! Seriously folks, Vitamin C! It's easy, simple, and it works wonders!!! What do we have to do to convince people? Paint a sign?

Theodore Van Oosbree

Flu prevention: Vitamin D3
Flu treatment: Sambucol (elderberry extract)
(works for cold also)
My overly-skeptical spouse has become an elderberry believer after seeing the results in our family. No one in the family has had the flu since we started Vit D3 supplements years ago (I wish it worked against autism!).

Donna K

The following study,

"Immune Responses During Pregnancy Linked To Schizophrenia Among Offspring"

looked at the immune responses of pregnant women to the flu virus and structural brain changes in the offspring that is associated with schizophrenia. There was a strong correlation between increased IL-8 responses in the mothers and offspring with brain abnormalities. It was noted that a genetic susceptability or environmental factor is also required as a co-factor in this outcome. It was stressed that it is the mother's immune response to the infection, not the actual virus that is influencing the outcome. Though the investigator of this study appears to agree with the recommendation to vaccinate during pregnancy, I believe that support is premature, considering there is very limited research on the pro-inflammatory cytokines response (especially IL-8) to flu vaccination, and the few studies that do exist find variable responses to IL-8 post vaccination. Furthermore, I couldn't find any studies that looked specifically at the IL-8 response of pregnant women to influenza vaccination.


Hey Benedetta - It's worse than you know. The flu show for people 65 and older is now "super charged."

When I warned my dad about the new super charged flu shot he shook his head and said "I guess that's one way to clear the social security rolls." It's too obvious.

John Stone

It is simply a racket. Governments are supposed to be trying to slash their budgets so the useless flu vaccine programme should be one of the very first things to go. But after I began writing this very post I learned that for the first time in the UK this winter flu shots are to be recommended for pregnant women. In 2006 there was kite flying for this move in the press, and we answered it effectively - so what happens, four years, later is that they do it without publicity or public debate. Shame!!!


I received a flu vaccine back in 2001 at work. A week or so later I found out that I was pregnant, I was roughly six weeks pregnant when I took the pregnancy test, therefore four to five weeks pregnant when I received the vaccine. At ten weeks I miscarried.

I had an ultrasound done when my doctor suspected I was miscarrying and they told me the baby had not developed beyond about 5 weeks...right about the time I received the vaccine.

Certainly, this is anecdotal and could be coincidence but I personally have heard similar accounts from other women.

The key point her is that there has been no tracking or studies done to determine how many women miscarry shortly after receiving the vaccine in the first trimester.

By the way it was a flu vaccine, received at age two, that sent my daughter into an autistic regression. I later wished I had paid more attention to relationship between my miscarriage and the timing of my flu vaccine. I might have thought twice about giving that shot to her.


Libby said

"I don't think doctors who treat adults even know about VAERS."

Believe me! doctors who treat children don't know about VAERS either!

Also: This past Monday on the way to a doctor's appointment for my daughter - RidAid advertised on the radio that this year they are putting three flu shots into the one.

regular flu
and well I really at this point barely remember my own name I forget the third thing.

I just barely whispered - "How am I going to talk my 85 year old father out of that one"

My daughter got all over me that he really needed to take the flu shot because he has lung problems and if he gets the flu he will die. That she sees old people like him in the hospital all the time and they don't even bother to put them in the IC unit - no use they told her. She became weeeeeepppy something she does a lot of lately.

We argued this for the next whole hour as we traveled down the road.

To my relief she did say she could not take these shots, but that her grandfather was not like her, her brother, or her father.

Her grandfather is a stubborn man, he will do what he wants to do about this, and always has. I was mostly wondering if I could talk him out of getting the three in one shot.


It sounds like the Times needs to be called on their journalism skills. Did someone notify them that they are clearly out to lunch and writing hearsay instead of investigative news?

Anne Dachel

What could be greater proof that these organizations are financed and controlled by the vaccine makers? The drug companies shield themselves because they state in their published literature that the flu shot has never been tested on pregnant women nor is it recommended for them.

Is there any oversight?

Obviously not.
Anne Dachel


Regarding Bob's post....

They can clearly violate the package insert, however I will be shut down for selling elderberry to prevent the flu.

Thousands of years of use and scientific studies - but I can't offer anyone a safe alternative. Sad state of affairs.

Oh BTW - you can't claim broccoli is good for you or oranges help with a cold. Sad, sad, sad.

If you want medical choice be sure to support the National Health Freedom Coalition and your local Health Freedom Coalition. They are protecting your rights to choose your own medical care.


"the vaccine had been given to millions of pregnant women over the last decade and had not been shown to harm either the women or their infants."

1) they never asked us - I would certainly tell them it caused damage. I went from a normal pregnancy to having to be on fetal monitors after receiving the shot. My daughter now has mito, seizures and a host of other problems.

2)A VAERS report was never filed in our case and I would guess that is true in most cases since the flu shot isn't "required." I never was counseled about a reaction might look like. I don't think doctors who treat adults even know about VAERS. My 2nd flu shot was given at a clinic in a GROCERY STORE. I don't even know how to contact anyone to report a reaction to them.

I find it odd, and concerning, that Walgreens is advertising so heavily to get vaccines through them. Vaccines commercials on TV and Radio used to be PSAs only. Now they have prime air time by a corporation? There has been a dramatic shift in our country and its not good.

Dan & Mark's book just arrived. Can't wait to read it!!!


why can't there be a class action lawsuit against these organizations for recommending an untested product? is the only thing that protects pediatricians from vaccine injury liability is a signed consent form? thanks for any explanations.

Bob Moffitt

"Exhibit Two: Official product label, written by drug maker and approved by FDA, for Fluzone flu vaccine: "Safety and efficacy of Fluzone have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers, or children less than six months of age .. (All flu vaccines, thimerosal-containing or not, include this warning.)

Of what use is the FDA if they cannot restrain the CDC and AMA from promoting a product that clearly VIOLATES the product's "safety label warnings"? Warnings that were APPROVED BY THE FDA?

Why isn't the FDA doing to the CDC and AMA .. what the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) did to Toyota .. when they demanded a total recall of their product until Toyota provided evidence their cars were safe?

Where is CONGRESS? Are they not ultimately responsible for overseeing federal agencies who are acting in violation of their sworn duty to "protect the public health"?


Key phrase: "...given to millions of women over the last decade and has not been shown to harm either the women or their infants."
How they determine this, as we know, is pure conjecture. It's impossible to "show harm" if it's never genuinely examined. But it does leave the door wide open for genetics in explaining that "my child was born autistic."
Infanticide. Plain and simple.

Cochrane 2010

'Vaccines to prevent influenza in healthy adults

'Over 200 viruses cause influenza and influenza-like illness which produce the same symptoms (fever, headache, aches and pains, cough and runny noses). Without laboratory tests, doctors cannot tell the two illnesses apart. Both last for days and rarely lead to death or serious illness. At best, vaccines might be effective against only influenza A and B, which represent about 10% of all circulating viruses. Each year, the World Health Organization recommends which viral strains should be included in vaccinations for the forthcoming season.

'Authors of this review assessed all trials that compared vaccinated people with unvaccinated people. The combined results of these trials showed that under ideal conditions (vaccine completely matching circulating viral configuration) 33 healthy adults need to be vaccinated to avoid one set of influenza symptoms. In average conditions (partially matching vaccine) 100 people need to be vaccinated to avoid one set of influenza symptoms. Vaccine use did not affect the number of people hospitalised or working days lost but caused one case of Guillian-Barré syndrome (a major neurological condition leading to paralysis) for every one million vaccinations. Fifteen of the 36 trials were funded by vaccine companies and four had no funding declaration. Our results may be an optimistic estimate because company-sponsored influenza vaccines trials tend to produce results favorable to their products and some of the evidence comes from trials carried out in ideal viral circulation and matching conditions and because the harms evidence base is limited.

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