Do we know for sure the kids had pertussis? If pertussis, do we know that the strain involved is one covered by vaccination? Just asking.

http://cdc.confex.com/cdc/nic2011/webprogram/Session11629.html

Until today I surmised my opinion of the Good Doctor Snyderman was my own. Personally, I've always found her condescending remarks quite difficult to digest, and I've dubbed her a "shill" for the medical paradigm most Americans seem to have embraced--until recently. Fortunately, with a voice loud and clear, many of us are questioning that paradigm, especially when it comes to those must-have vaccinations, flu shots, etc. I could go on...

My heart goes out to all parents whose children have been so tragically affected by vaccines. Keep shouting until they hear! Ms. Estepp, your article was truly concise, not to mention absolutely brilliant.

Dr. Snyderman is a bimbo and she looks like one too. She obviously has been bought off by the people trying to cover up the autism, yes, "epidemic." Either that, or she is just plain ignorant. Either way, she should just keep her mouth shut!

Oops. Typo alert:

"They are immoral and sacreligious".

Please amend to read:

"They are immoral and sacrilegious".

Sorry.

Here's a new article from NVIC:

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/August-2010/Using-Fear-Prejudice-to-Attack-Vaccine-Exemption.aspx

The decision whether to vaccinate or not is OUR choice to make. No one else's. This is a God-given right.

Government-mandated "portals" of vaccine-associated disease violate MANY tenets of religions around the world. They are immoral and sacreligious.

Carol - the article you describe "...the Story of Baby Alan" is a perfect example of how horrific the vaccine schedules are. Do you a have link to the same article which doesn't require a password or a purchase?

SIDS/SUID/SBS is an extremely important topic because here we have an accurate timeline and histopathologic correlation. It is one of the most glaringly-obvious examples of vaccine-associated disease that I know of. The temporal relationship should be given considerable weight in establishing causality. That's why I'd like to see a whole array of potential biomarkers studied as a function of time in relationship to the vaccine schedules, using the vaccinee as their own control.

Dr Harold Buttram and Dr Viera Scheibner are heroes. They should be recognized as such.

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/vaccination/articles/the-stepchildren-of-modern-medicine-as-applied-to-shaken-baby-syndrome-sbsnon-accidental-injury-nai.html

http://www.whale.to/v/scheibner.html

Some babies died from whooping cough? Let me guess- Could it just be possible that this occurred during the months after their flu vaccines (mercury laden) which provided them with damaged immune systems?

An excerpt on whooping cough in Jackson County Oregon from the Medford Mail Tribune about a month ago. Interesting comment on Ashland, OR. Don't know the exemption rate in the Rogue River school mentioned. The fact that they didn't cite the exemption rate in the Rogue River school, makes me think its not worth noting... unremarkable.

I have no use for the Today show and Synderman promotions of her self and her religion. Wake me when they say anything that matters.

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100625/NEWS/6250320/-1/COMM07
Cases that have been confirmed in lab testing this year have hit patients ranging from 2 months old to 55 years old, Brown said.............Public health officials haven't seen any clear trends in who is getting sick or where the disease is hitting hardest.
"Rogue River has a slightly disproportionate number," Brown said, noting that most cases were linked to an elementary school there.

Ashland, where many parents choose not to vaccinate and which has been hit hard in past outbreaks, hasn't seen especially high numbers of infections so far, she said."

Morality is change for the better. Let's compare two scenarios and choose which one is on higher moral grounds.

1) vaccinate people against their will and call them immoral for their desire to follow their conscience and inner wisdom and heed the information, witness stories and compendium of data that influenced their non-vaxing decision

or

2) allow people to make informed consent decisions.

Given that Ms. Snyderman believes the moral option is #1, one must wonder if she slept thru her ethics classes.

Alison, did you know a doc with a British company working on the Prozac (off patent) for Autism with Autism Speaks was named SNAPE? I wrote a post about that years ago for Resue Post. It was too delicious (like ButterBeer)to ignore. :)

Anytime Dr. Nancy Snyderman is on the TV, my husband either changes the channel or puts her on mute.
We don't understand how she can know everything there is to know about every medical subject.
NBC needs to get rid of her!!!!!

Snyderman is a shameless. Remember "Get your damn shot people"? So articulate and intelligent. What an embarassment to the medical profession...

People like Dr. Synderman do what in their minds is right....as long as the money is there. Didn't check her sponsor list, but I'm sure it's jam packed with folks that agree with her non-factual tirades.

As a parent of a vaccine injured child who is now 19 I'm tired of trying to change the thought process of individuals like her because it's not possible. If she wasn't self-directed she wouldn't be so black and white on the issue.

However if anyone with an open mind wants to hear our son's story, or the tens of thousand out there....we are always willing. Can't deny it by ignoring it. Our son is a human being and the damage transpired. Anyone who continues to ignore the fact will only provide that open path to others being harmed as well.

Laurette - Bravo! Well stated. I could not agree more. Thank you for the microbiology citations.

"We have exchanging relatively benign or at least treatable diseases for much worse and less treatable disease thanks to vaccines. We simply cannot vaccinate ourselves into good health!"

Vaccines, antivirals, and antibiotics are simply promoting bacterial adaptation and viral evolution, mutation, and recombination, into more difficult to treat disease.

Prevnar-13, meningitis vaccines, and HPV vaccines are absolutely frightening cases in point. To gain expedited market approvals from FDA for new vaccines these days only requires a showing that the new vaccine is no more acutely toxic than vaccines already in the market place, under the "non-inferiority" margin.

Meningitis vaccines are now mandated in many states. Don’t college students face enough challenges without having to cope with adapted, antibiotic resistant, meningococcal infections? Why not ensure that they avoid stimulants, e.g. adderall, get enough sleep, a balanced, nutritious diet, and vitamin D3 supplementation during the cold and flu season?

Gardasil received FDA approval based on pivotal studies wherein aluminum salts and/or Hep B vaccine, were used in the placebo arms. This is the epitome of "junk" science. Vaccine mandates violate our fundamental God-given rights. Pharma wants mandates for ALL of their toxic cocktails. If we continue on this course, we are on a fast track to fascism.

Germs are everywhere. We are all colonized. Not all germs are pathogens, in and of themselves. They are opportunists and readily adapt to the terrain they find themselves in. The vaccine schedules provide both a parenteral portal of entry and a chronically dysfunctional, sometimes acutely dysfunctional immune system, which when faced with certain opportunistic pathogens, can result in cytokine storm, a final common pathway to death. The pandemic flu of 1918 is thought to have killed via cytokine storm.

Would deaths have occurred without the portal of entry and the dysfunctional immune system? The vaccine schedules and widespread overuse of antivirals and antibiotics are selecting-out resistent strains of microbes, which are increasingly difficult to treat and impossible to eradicate. The new wave of vaccines with squalene "super adjuvants" have not been properly field-tested for safety. Where's the informed consent? If one exists, please share it with us.

I have seen ads for pertussis vaccination in magazines recently; normally those are long lead time placements, aren't they? Seems to me like the planned pandemic thing all over again. Really, how much longer do they think people are going to buy into this disingenuous bull?

Daid,

I am very much in agreement with you. I also quit watching NBC because of Bob Bazell, chief medical correspondent of NBC and unoffical spokesman for Vaccine and Pharma industries. Internet, which is full of complex information is a much better and neutral source of information than the big 3 lying netwroks NBC, ABC and CBS. CNN is little lesser evil.

Dr Snyderman, in all of her infinite wisdom, is not aware of the imperfect state of vaccine science? One size does not fit all children, just like not all vaccines will guarantee complete immunity. The drug companies know about how "one size fits all" does not apply to drugs, which is why they are investing millions in pharmacogenomics to prevent adverse drug reactions in patients with genetic susceptability- which costs them millions in lawsuits every year. In a perfect world, the theory of pharmacogenomics would be applied toward vaccines. But there is no financial incentive for pharma companies to do this. There is no financial compensation for those who are vaccine injured or who die after vaccines because it is a government program tied up with layers upon layers of bureacracy and a several year wait list to have a case heard in federal vaccine court. That's the tragedy. The 'system' is broken, which is why parents have no trust in the vaccine companies or the government which is supposed to protect their children. And- why they have taken matters into their own hands. You may call it reckless, Dr Nancy, but it's parents protecting their young against a broken public health system.

Thanks Becky for your honesty. I vaccinated my NT son with DTAP- all 4 boosters. A year after his 4th booster, he caught pertussis at daycare. He was very ill, even hospitalized. This is POST vaccination. He later developed severe asthma. There is research supporting delaying DTAP can lower incidence of childhood asthma up to 30% but I did not know this then.

Why do I so enjoy watching Nancy with her undies in a tizzy? It is so freaking alarming they get so worked up about certain "outbreaks" and yet autism continues to rise, destroying lives and families ... my God, how many children are dying due to "side effects" of autism? Or being murdered by their over stressed and sometimes mentally ill parents? Let's talk about outrage Nancy ... yes, my undies are in a tizzy too.

Thanks Becky. I hope someone at NBC news actually reads this and confronts Dr. Spiderwoman. Oh i forgot, the news director at NBC is just following the memo from Director Sebellius to censor vaccine safety advocates and use scare tactics. same strategy leading up to the invasion of Iraq. these whooping cough deaths are just want the Paul Offitts and Dr. Spiderwomans have been waiting for you.

Thank you for this brilliant article. It is just the thing I want to share with all my neurotypical mom groups... I know some of them will actually read the entire article; links and all.

Gina (mom to Kenneth, 6 yrs)

Nancy Snyderman - "biostitute." I love it.

The Today Show is a joke - nothing but a several hour long infomercial hawking prodcucts, with Nancy a glorified Sham-Wow saleswoman.

Thank you Ms. Estepp for your response to Dr. Snyderman’s statements on vaccination. Like you, I too have personal experience with vaccinations that run contrary to what Dr. Snyderman stated on the Today show. I particularly take umbrage with Dr. Snydnerman’s comment that makes sweeping generalizations such as saying vaccines are safe and they work.

To expand on what you already have listed in your response, I would like to add the findings from two published studies; one having to do with pertussis effectiveness and the other its safety.

In 2005, the journal Pediatrics published an article titled, Pertussis Vaccine Effectiveness Among Children 6 to 59 Months of Age in the United States, 1998-2001 (Bisgard KM et al.). This study reported on 184 confirmed cases of pertussis in children between the years 1998-2001. Here is a quote taken directly from the study,

“Our results indicated that, under field conditions, receipt of >= 3 pertusis vaccine doses among children 6 to 59 months of age was highly protective against pertussis, regardless of vaccine type or manufacturer.”

However, further along in this study you find the following statement:

“In this study, 60% of pertussis cases were among children who had received >= 3 pertussis vaccine doses. Although protective against death and severe morbidity, pertussis vaccines are imperfect; after receipt of >= 3 doses, vaccinees can still become infected and symptomatic after significant exposure to B pertusis.”

By looking at the above 2 quotes we see that on the one hand they are saying 3 or more doses are “highly protective” and on the other we find that 60% of the pertussis cases were among children who had received 3 or more doses. Perhaps the issue lies in the definition of what it means to be highly protective. Since more than half of the case children had the “highly protective” rounds of vaccination, is Dr. Synderman correct in saying the vaccine works?

In this study, children who received at least one or two pertussis vaccinations were referred to as being under vaccinated. In other words, they had not received the protective 3 doses mentioned in the quotes above. A group of 96 children composed of BOTH case and control children were identified as being under vaccinated. Of these 96 children, the reason for under vaccination was known in 36 of the children (37%). Among the 36 children for whom the reason was given, 5 children were under vaccinated due to parental refusal while an equal number were under vaccinated due to a “reaction to prior pertussis vaccinations”. Would Dr. Snyderman’s black and white world have called these 5 children’s parents amoral for not vaccinating completely? How many more children would have fallen into this category had the reason for under vaccination been determined in all 96 under vaccinated children? Is this vaccine really safe if that many children are having reactions to the vaccine? To take a look at the safety issue I will tell you a little about my daughter’s experience with her DTP vaccination and then bring up one more study.

My daughter Emily received her first DTP at 3 months of age. Within days of the vaccination she was in the hospital emergency room in critical condition. She was diagnosed with systemic infant strep B (strep B is also found in urinary tract infections). I asked if her getting ill had anything to do with her recent vaccination. The doctor said no that it was just coincidental. Back then I believed whatever doctors told me so 2 months later Emily received her next DTP vaccine. Again she became sick, this time bilateral ear infections occurring within days after vaccination. I used to be gullible for the type of fear and guilt promoted by people like Dr. Synderman so I proceeded 2 months later to get the third DTP vaccine for Emily. Again Emily became sick within days of vaccination. I thus began my investigation into the safety of vaccinations.

Why would a child who was exposed to strep B from her mother’s birth canal not manifest an actual symptomatic strep B infection until 3 months later upon the challenge of a DTP vaccine? The answer to this and to her subsequent infections would come from the study cited below.

Urinary tract diseases revealed after DTP vaccination in infants and young children: cytokine irregularities and down-regulation of cytochrome P-450 enzymes induced by the vaccine may uncover latent diseases in genetically predisposed subjects. Am J Ther. 2004 Sep-Oct;11(5):344-53.

It has long been known that the pertussis component of the DTP vaccine strongly triggers a molecule (cytokine) that causes inflammation. One of theses cytokines is called IL-6. It is by this mechanism of increased IL-6 that the DTP vaccine is capable of taking a latent, asymptomatic colonization of bacteria and transforming it into a full-blown illness, as was the case in my daughter. We must keep in mind that all of us harbor many different types of bacteria within our bodies that live there harmoniously unless triggered by some event that causes imbalance. An example of this would be finding strep in the throats of healthy individuals. So how can the balance be thrown off?

The DTP vaccine can cause a, “…steady enhanced production of proinflammatory cytokines that result in a local cytokine milieu imbalance leading to subclinical, sometimes allergic, protracted inflammation and enhanced bacterial growth and finally to the flare of disease symptoms.”

In other words, the vaccine causes an imbalance in the proinflammatory molecules, which are then able to fuel the growth of bacteria that are present culminating in disease manifestation. In a word, what we have is OVERLOAD, which then converts the otherwise healthy person into a sick person via the stimulation of the vaccine. This may be the reason ear infections have been documented (Fisher MA et al. 2001) to occur so frequently within days of vaccination. The use of antibiotics to treat these vaccine related ear infections can contribute to the growth of undesirable bacteria which can be problematic during future vaccinations.

The study further goes on to tell us that an increased production of IL-6 due to genetic differences may play a similar role and could predispose some infants with infection to a more than usually intense inflammatory response. The inability to turn off an inflammatory response triggered by vaccination may result in other disorders including auatism. Some doctors feel it is OK to vaccine children even when they are mildly sick; is this moral?

“Polymorphism in some genes of the host immune system is associated with susceptibility to infections and, in contrast, using vaccines as probes of the immune system is a novel means of identifying disease susceptibility genes.”

In lay terms the above quote means that your child’s adverse response to a vaccine can be used to reveal genetic differences in your child. So instead of running genetic testing prior to vaccination, the vaccine itself is utilized as a genetic testing tool. By observing the outcome of vaccination on diseases other than those the vaccine was designed to protect against you can draw conclusions about the child’s genetic differences. Think guinea pig. How moral is that Dr. Synderman? I now have the knowledge that my daughter does in fact have a genetic difference in her production of IL-6. Am I amoral for declining additional vaccinations?

To see how this might relate to autism we must digress slightly and look at a few quotes that come from an article, which appeared in Medscape on November 9, 2009 written by Sue Mulley. The title of the article was: Maternal Cytokine Profile May Affect Autism Risk. Here are the quotes of significance as they relate to this discussion:

“Children who inherit polymorphisms in cytokine regulatory genes from their mothers appear to be at greater risk of autism, according to a presentation by US researchers here at the 5th Asia Pacific Congress in Maternal Fetal Medicine.”

“Overall, about 50% of autistic children appeared to have inherited their mother’s polymorphisms or cytokine profile that tended toward pro-inflammation.”

Dr Synderman, where are the safety studies showing that it is safe to use the pro-inflammatory DTP vaccine on children who already have a genetic difference that promotes inflammation? Are vaccines tipping the scale in these vulnerable children and causing autism? Is it moral to mandate a vaccine to an entire population without studying its effects on the brain of the recipients especially when combined with genetic studies? What about the proinflammatory state seen in the elderly; are vaccines contributing to their development of dementia?

Before closing it is worth mentioning that the DTP study tells us there is a significant difference between the DTP status of SIDS cases and controls in infants younger than 3 months and that the mechanism described by this author, “may also be responsible for some cases of sudden infant death syndrome, which is often preceded by infection/inflammation.” Is it moral to keep this information from parents? How many babies who died needlessly from SIDS were really those babies detected by using the “genetic probe” of the DTP vaccine? Is is moral that these babies should die for the protection of us all; what if this was your child Dr. Synderman?

“Moreover, recent findings from animal and human studies confirmed that DTP vaccination increased the risk of allergies and related respiratory symptoms in children and adolescents and caused reactive arthritis and immunovasculitis with cardiovascular shock and panarteritis nodosa (after DT vaccination).”

Is it moral to say vaccines are safe when there are known risk factors associated with them? You be the judge.

The greater good ignores the injuries our children sustained with vaccinations. We have an up-close-and-personal-view of just how compassionate the greater good really is, and the greater good has no concern for our kids. The greater good is offensive and amoral.

Penny
www.notnewtoautism.blogspot.com

Pertussis (whooping cough) outbreaks occur among the vaccinated and it appears the offending organism may have adapted under pressure of wide-spread vaccination:

"In The Netherlands, as in many other western countries, pertussis vaccines have been used extensively for more than 40 years. Therefore, it is conceivable that vaccine-induced immunity has affected the evolution of B. pertussis. Consistent with this notion, pertussis has reemerged in The Netherlands, despite high vaccination coverage. Further, a notable change in the population structure of B. pertussis was observed in The Netherlands subsequent to the introduction of vaccination in the 1950s. Finally, we observed antigenic divergence between clinical isolates and vaccine strains, in particular with respect to the surface-associated proteins pertactin and pertussis toxin. Adaptation may have allowed B. pertussis to remain endemic despite widespread vaccination and may have contributed to the reemergence of pertussis in The Netherlands."

From "Adaptation of Bordetella pertussis to Vaccination: A Cause for Its Reemergence?"

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol7no3_supp/mooi.htm

So the vaccine doesn't work very well; it wears off and it's one of the most dangerous...sign me up for a booster!

Patron99-
The Catholic Church has not been silent and this may be a good opportunity to let Snyderman know that:

http://americamagazine.org/content/article.cfm?article_id=11947
An Untreated Epidemic?
The editors | NOVEMBER 2, 2009
the cover of America, the Catholic magazine

Autism spectrum disorder is a medical catch-all classification that includes a range of neurological syndromes. It covers people with pervasive development disorder, Asperger’s syndrome and mild-to-severe “classic” autism. In children, symptoms of autism spectrum extend broadly from minor challenges with social interaction and sensory integration all the way to the kind of complete withdrawal and accompanying physical disabilities most often associated in the public imagination with autism. Autism’s telltale signs include lack of eye contact, sporadic or prolonged lack of awareness of others and repetitive motions and vocalizations. A diagnosis of autism can be the predictor of a lifetime of difficulty for the children and families affected, but it also represents significant costs to local school districts at the front line in the age of autism.

Not too long ago estimates of the number of children with autism were as low as two to five in 10,000. Just two years ago that number was revised to a startling one in 150 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A new survey published in the monthly Journal of Pediatrics suggests the number of children “on the spectrum” in the United States is as high as one in 91 among all children and one in 58 among boys, a revision corroborated by a parallel study by the C.D.C. That means that 673,000 U.S. children—1.1 percent of children ages 3 to 17—and a comparable number of U.S. families are grappling with autism and the impact that diagnosis has on family life and, not least of all, family budgets.

A C.D.C. statement noted: “These data affirm that a concerted and substantial national response is warranted.” This is the kind of rhetoric we have already heard as the autism spectrum numbers leapt higher. When will that concerted response begin? It is true that new federal money—$100 million—has recently been directed to autism research as part of the economic stimulus package, but even that lofty figure pales in comparison to the commitments made to other, similarly large-scale public health crises. Though it now clearly affects a much higher number of children, autism has historically received only a fraction of the monies devoted to other childhood afflictions. Over the long term, this apparent epidemic will represent an as yet undetermined cost to U.S. society as it attempts to respond to the special needs of children, teens and adults with autism.

One fundamental question needs to be answered immediately: Are these numbers “real” or just a statistical anomaly generated by greater awareness of autism? After years now of rising anxiety because of reports of autism’s increasing prevalence, how is it possible that a public figure as prominent as Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, still cannot say for sure if the higher numbers recorded by her own researchers merely reflect better reporting and a broadening diagnosis?

If an alarming increase in autism is indeed occurring in our homes, and not just on statistical spreadsheets, then we need to confront this problem as the major health care crisis that it is. Discovering more about what provokes this puzzling neurological syndrome and how it can be treated effectively should be a major C.D.C. priority. Much of the institutional debate surrounding autism spectrum disorder has revolved around its suspected connection to the increasing vaccine load required of U.S. children. More research needs to be done to confirm or deny this hypothesis about the origins of autism before faith in the entire vaccination enterprise collapses. Clearly genetics plays a primary role, but as the numbers pile up the possible effect of so-called environmental triggers like vaccines cannot be ignored.

While a more determined effort to address the causes of autism and develop strategies to prevent it is absolutely necessary, another serious lapse also needs attention: the lack of support for families of autism-spectrum children. Parents of children on the spectrum are growing more confused about how to help their children even as they grow more vulnerable to medical quackery of all sorts. Many have waded through oceans of bureaucratic ridicule or indifference to find treatments they say are working. Such parents find themselves falling into a void between what they believe they can do to help their children and what insurance plans will cover or school districts provide. Many proven therapies are extremely costly but must be paid for out of pocket by parents. With evidence building that early intervention is crucial in the response to autism, families frequently find themselves balancing bankruptcy against the obvious needs of their children. It is a choice they should not be forced to make.

When Jesus said, “Let the children come to me,” it was a gesture of benevolence. It was also an acceptance of responsibility. Autism is not something that happens only to “other” families. These are our children. Let them come to us and be helped or healed, or at the very least be comforted.

@ Tanners Dad... big pharma's proponents have hijacked the MEANING of the word "amoral" and redefined it, along with the meaning of the word "science"... the word "ethics," etc.

@ Tanners Dad - this post pulled my chain, too. The unmitigated gall of Schneiderman to be preaching morality to us. Why has the church been silent on this topic, arguably one of the most important public health issues of our times? Frankly, the vaccine schedules are much closer to voodooism, satanism, and rape, than to Christianity.

How is the injection of foreign proteins, known neurotoxins, non-human DNA, aborted fetal tissue, oncogenes, reverse transcriptases, and retroviruses, into our bodies, serially, from cradle to grave, considered moral? Help me understand this.

I am a God-fearing Christian. For reasons discussed above, I consider myself to be more spiritual than religious. We need a hero from the church to speak out on this topic. It is precisely the lack of any sound moral basis for the vaccine schedules, that is in large measure responsible for the current epidemic of vaccine-associated diseases.

Meanwhile: 'simple tests such as those for eye movements or cognitive deficits could be used in the meantime to indicate a couple's risk of having an autistic child.'

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=autism-relatives-symptoms

'Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe' - Albert Einstein

In my opinion every word that comes out of Nancy Snydermans mouth is offensive and amoral. Furthermore if she were to talk about any REAL sience she would no longer have her job. She is just another STOOGE reading a script and collecting a big fat pay check.

I find it frankly offensive and amoral.” says Dr. Nancy Snyderman, complaining about parents who fail to have their children vaccinated because of genuine safety concerns.
Well, speaking personally,I find smug ignorant persons like Dr Snyderman 'frankly offensive and amoral'. Her 'pro pertussis' vaccine zeal bears no relation to the actual recent facts about pertussis, which seem to confirm that vaccines, far from eradicating whooping cough, have enabled this virus to become resistant and develop more devastating consequences to those persons contracting this infection. This is analagous to antibiotic resistance, resulting in such 'man made' hospital horrors as MRSA.

"And how does Dr. Snyderman decide whose life is more important, the immuno-compromised person who cannot be vaccinated or the individual who dies from a vaccine reaction? How does Dr. Snyderman parse out which life is more valuable?"

You don't mean this!!!
My vaccine injured kids are not just as important as my neighbor's kids that did just fine! We are less than human and we need to be exterminated - I just must accept this!

My vaccine injured kids are not as important as the red headed girl at our church that was damaged from the actual whooping cough disease as a baby. This just can not be that they are just as important as she????

Of all the mean things I have had to contend with over the years, of all the angry feelings I have had to swallow up: this and this alone is what has made me the most hurt and most angry - that my kids are deemed as not as important as anybody else.

Call me a "Refrigerator Dad / Mom", A parasite, pariah, fanatic, poor parent, or any other name but "AMORAL" Dr Snyderman will have more than the religious community to explain that one too... Thank You Becky... I do not need to start the coffee this morning ... I am wound Up!