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OSR: Dietary Supplement Safe for Right Use

Logo_kentucky  We encourage you to read the full editorial and comment at Kentucky.com.

By Boyd Haley At issue | June 26 Chicago Tribune article, "FDA warns Lexington maker of autism pill"

This is just one of several Chicago Tribune articles focusing on criticism of doctors who treat autistic children, raising similar concerns to that of a fringe group called Neurodiversity, which thinks autism should be celebrated instead of treated.

It is critical to be noted that there has been no report of any significant adverse effect for OSR#1. Our legal representation has contacted the Food and Drug Administration and we are working with the agency to resolve its concerns...

Read more: Kentucky.com

Comments

Hans RAIBLE

After birth, a baby contains a double load of iron since the child was born was "fetal iron" which has to give way to adult iron.

For this reason, a nursing woman feeds her baby with fat milk containing an oral chelator for iron called lactoferrin, and this brings the child's iron down to normal values. I was just able to observe it in a grandson who now has the light color of his brother but looked rather tanned for the first two months.

A baby therefore needs a chelator for iron, but no iron in whichever form. The more so since one third of autistic children do have very high iron values.

However,pharmaceutical firms produce "formula with iron", poisoning the little ones and - probably - making them more prone to autism. (Of course nobody will test this since if the child gets autistic, the firm will have to pay the child for a lifetime.)

"Formula with iron" is indeed a new drug and clearly toxic, but the FDA will take no action against its makers since they are giving financial support to the FDA.

If you have the right financial and industrial background, you can certainly dwarf king Herodes with impunity. Yes, Trine, with the right background, you can go after the little ones and nobody will criticize you.

Hans Raible, Stuttgart, Germany

Judith

Hmmm....I'd like to see what would happen if you gave 2500 times the normal dosage of Avandia to an animal....I'm thinking DOA...Yet this product, which is very clear to be a SAFE dietary product and heavily studied, is getting crucified by the Fraud and Death Administration.
Guess Wyeth/Abbott Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Dow Biopharmaceutical, Eli Lilly & Company, RW Johnson Pharmaceutical Research Institute, Bayer Research Center, Cyanamid, Immunex, Pfizer, Novartis Pharmaceuticals, Schering-Plough, Berlex Biosciences, Genzyme Corporation, Merck, Oncogene Science, AlphaGene, GlaxoSmithKline, Millipore etc are ticked they didn't come up with something that actually helps children with oxidative stress! And they are doing what they can to try to damage the makers of OSR #1
Heaven forbid a supplement actually can heal! Can't have that!

AnaB

I find this constant onslaught of denial and obfuscation exhausting. My son keeps getting sicker and sicker. He needs serious help -fast! Decided I am going on hiatus from this advocacy. Need to focus on getting him well. Given my ADHD, every shred of my ability needs to be directed at that for now because I am easy to distract. I've put 4 years into running to comment walls and debating the ideologues for hearts and minds and it is time to fully shift gears for a bit. (Can U tell I'm feeling guilty about this decision??!!)

Mr T

Sounds like a good product, it raises glutathione and is non toxic. How many chronic diseases have these mainsteam doctors cured in the last hundred years? Your body has to have ability to detox or it will die. Trine tried to sneek around the AO conference last year and act like she is some kind of undercover reporter. I would like to know which of the pill factories is funding her hit job articles.

Jake Crosby

Just looked up the other guy, Chuan He, who made the following assumption about Haley's product:

"Once you connect them together, they have very different properties,' said Chuan He, professor of chemistry at University of Chicago. 'That is why they are different molecules."

He went on a two-year Merck/MIT graduate fellowship, and more recently won the "Burroughs Wellcome Fund Investigator in the Pathogenesis of Infectious Disease Award," the fund being an outgrowth of Burroughs Wellcome pharmaceuticals - now GlaxoSmithKline.

Jake Crosby

You take a look at the alumni page for the graduate program at SUNY Stony Brook - the one headed by Arthur Grollman, Trine's chief expert witness against Haley so-to-speak, and it brags:

"Our graduates hold positions in the pharmaceutical industry with Abbott Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Dow Biopharmaceutical, Eli Lilly & Company, RW Johnson Pharmaceutical Research Institute, Bayer Research Center, Cyanamid, Immunex, Pfizer, Novartis Pharmaceuticals, Schering-Plough, Berlex Biosciences, Genzyme Corporation, Merck, Oncogene Science, AlphaGene, GlaxoSmithKline, Millipore, and others."

It lists the drug companies employing alums even above the universities. Apparently, the success of this educational program rests primarily on cranking out more prospective employees for pharma.

This is still, of course, secondary to the most important point - that Trine has apparently shifted the discussion from whether or not OSR constitutes a supplement under FDA definitions (because it does) to the fact that it is a chemical compound, which is irrelevant.

The holes in her "investigative journalism" are really starting to show through. They were always there, but now they're exposed for the whole world to see. Pretty soon, her CDC-funded award-buying days will be over, and she'll be back to blogging for "The Stew"...at best.

ObjectiveAutismDad

Good job Dr. Haley. We have one very powerful weapon on our side: The truth.

...and the knowledge that they fear is the weapon to be used against them...

Jake Crosby

I see Trine is desperate, seeing that her own award-buying investigation is collapsing beneath her under Boyd Haley's Op-Ed. She tries holding it together by spinning and tap-dancing:

"Experts interviewed by the Tribune said the argument by Haley, a retired chairman of the University of Kentucky's chemistry department, defies elementary principles of chemistry.

OSR#1 "is indeed a complex chemical entity," said Dr. Arthur Grollman, director of the Laboratory for Chemical Biology at State University of New York at Stony Brook. "He should have stopped there."

Grollman and other experts say any molecule can be broken down to chemical groups found in nature, but that doesn't mean the molecules are natural or they are a sum of their parts.

For example, the illegal drug Ecstasy contains a benzene ring and an amine group, both of which are found in OSR#1, but Ecstasy is not a dietary supplement.

Creating a new molecule out of old ones results in an entirely new substance that will have different effects on the body, experts said.

"Once you connect them together, they have very different properties," said Chuan He, professor of chemistry at University of Chicago. "That is why they are different molecules."

Which has nothing to do with the fact that OSR does in fact meet the FDA's definition of supplements:

"a vitamin, mineral, amino acid, herb or other botanical, or dietary substance for use by man to supplement the diet by increasing the total dietary intake, or a concentrate, metabolite, constituent, extract or combination of any dietary ingredient from the preceding categories."

Read more: http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/12/1345487/dietary-supplement-safe-for-right.html#ixzz0taPA6IEj

Game over, Trine.

Erik Nanstiel

I declined an invitation from Trine Tsouderos to be interviewed for her "article" yesterday. I read it this morning and it's garbage. She either cannot understand the rudiments of scientific discourse... or she is a paid journalist/assassin bent on making a name for herself and making her paper's advertisers happy.

After how she's treated some of my friends with her quoting out of context and misrepresentations... I wouldn't trust her as far as I can throw her.

I would have told her to go to H-E-Double Hockeysticks, but I"m guessing she and Brian Deer probably run the place.

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