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Vaccine May Trigger Early Start of Infant Epilepsy, Vaccine Apologist Shrugs Off Science

What-me-worry-715605 And look who is defending vaccines to the bitter end, at the end of the article. It's our old pal and vaccine court expert for pharma, pediatric neurologist Max Wiznitzer, from Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital in Cleveland.

(From Reuters) - Childhood vaccines may trigger early onset of a severe form of infant epilepsy, but researchers say the disorder is ultimately caused by defective genes and lifesaving vaccines should not be withheld from these children.

The researchers said they feared the study published in the Lancet medical journal would scare parents away from getting their children vaccinated but stressed the babies in the study would likely have developed seizures within months regardless of the vaccine.

The disorder, called Dravet syndrome, generally begins with seizures around six months of age. These children have poor language and motor skills and difficulty relating to others.

Up to 80 percent of them have mutations in the SCN1A gene.

Anne McIntosh of the University of Melbourne's Epilepsy Research Center and colleagues examined the medical records of 40 Dravet syndrome patients with the genetic mutation who had been vaccinated against whooping cough, or pertussis.

They said 30 percent of these children developed their first seizures within two days of receiving the vaccine but symptoms of their disorder were no worse than the other children who had their first seizures later on.

"In about 30 percent of people, it appears that (first seizures) came on rather quickly after the vaccination. But the overall message is that the outcome to the patients did not differ regardless of whether the onset of the disorder was shortly after the vaccination, or later on," said McIntosh.

"These kids already had that genetic abnormality, (so) regardless of the relationship with the vaccine, they would have actually had that disorder happen to them anyway," she added.

"Essentially, there is no proof that people should not be vaccinated ... from concerns about it causing the onset of that disease," she said in a telephone interview.


Reports linking childhood vaccines to any sort of disorder are always sensitive because they can result in parents refusing to get their children vaccinated. This has caused a resurgence of dangerous diseases, including mumps, measles and whooping cough, in Britain, the United States and elsewhere.

In 1998 British doctor Andrew Wakefield published a study in The Lancet, suggesting the combined measles, mumps and rubella or MMR vaccine might be linked to autism and bowel disease.

The assertion has been widely discredited for years, the Lancet has withdrawn the paper and Britain's General Medical Council has ruled Wakefield acted dishonestly and irresponsibly.

But the damage has been done -- the number of MMR vaccinations in the United States and Europe plunged, prompting a resurgence of both measles and mumps.

This Australian study by McIntosh and colleagues follows an earlier investigation into whether the pertussis vaccine, which is routinely given to children together with diphtheria and typhoid vaccines (DTP), may have led to cases of encephalopathy.

The earlier investigation, led by Samuel Berkovic of the Epilepsy Research Center at the University of Melbourne, found that 12 of 14 patients with so-called vaccine encephalopathy were actually suffering from Dravet syndrome. Eleven of these 12 children were also found to have the SCN1A gene variant.

In an accompanying commentary, Max Wiznitzer from the Rainbow Babies & Children's Hospital in Cleveland, Ohio, said McIntosh's study was "consistent with the conclusion that outcome is determined by the underlying disorder and not by proximity to vaccine administration."

Wiznitzer, who was not involved in the study, said "effective and accurate information and communication" could help maintain public confidence in vaccines.

Editing by Maggie Fox and Krittivas Mukherjee



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Angus Files

Thanks for sharing Thomas Janice and for the link.Glad to see the herbals are doing the trick long may it continue,well done you.

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cia parker

ALL vaccine reactions depend on a preexisting genetic configuration which enables them. Those who wish to promote vaccines must present their proposed method of screening for those who are more vulnerable than most to such reactions, while always permitting anyone who wishes to reject them to do so as he sees fit.

thomas janice

My son is 13 and has been diagnosed with a rare form absence status epilepsy. His seizures show no symptoms until the seizure has lasted for hours! The only warning we had was he started acting only tired at first then gradually he started acting confused and from there for 24 hours he didn't know what year it was, where he went to school, or even what grade he was in etc. his motors skills were perfect and he talked to everyone normal the entire time, he just couldn't answer certain questions. The hospital kept him overnight and gave him fluids and in 24 hours he slowly started remembering and they said he was good and sent us home. We know now that he was having a constant seizure the ENTIRE TIME of his confusion! Almost 3 months later he begins having the same symptoms when I woke him up for his 2nd day of school. we are sent for an EEG, which revealed at 10 am he was actually having what the neurologist referred to as the worst EEG he had seen) we then were sent to a different children's hospital where they observed him until 8:00pm, all this time my son passes every test, he is talking and his motor skills are completely normal! They finally begin his EEG around 9:00pm. It reveals he is still in seizure! They are blown away. Say they have never seen an absence case like his and they quickly gave him a big dose of adavan which immediately stops the seizure and he is able to regain his memory immediately. Does anyone have a child who has these same symptoms? His neuro doctor ordered a brain glucose test, but when we went for a follow up last week they said the test had been canceled and they had no idea what happened? When I asked if they were going to draw his blood and re do the test, they said that his medicine was controlling the seizures so far so they didn't feel the need to do the test! I need advice and some direction. I searched further; visited epilepsy websites, blogs. I find info about someone having the same symptoms. I was really determined. Fortunately for me, I stumbled on a testimony of someone who had epilepsy for several years and was cured through Herbal medication. I read awesome stories of people whose condition were worse. I was not a fan of Herbal Medication, because I once believed that they have not researched it enough. But due to numerous testimonies I was more than willing to try it…. I contacted the doctor, and my son used the herbal medication. It became a miracle for my son free from rare form absence status epilepsy within 3 months. The herbal medication worked without any trace of side effects on my son…. totally free. I decided to share my son story to tell people out there, that there is a hope for those with epilepsy using herbal medicine, and anyone who suffers from seizures can be cured.
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ail sydney

My son had suffered from myoclonic seizure for over a year, uncontrollably with meds. When he has one it starts where he rolls his eyes back or his eyes are staring off to nowhere, seeing he arms jerk every single night His breathing gets very shallow and his heart rate speeds up, now his not sleeping. I don't think there's any changing he started experiencing one horrible serious side effect of the medicine. I could not get an appointment with a neurologist for 5 weeks. I was filled with worry. Thank God for a wonderful doctor, i read a testimonial of someone on a website her daughter was cure from seizure using herbal medicine. I called the number that was retain at the website, i explain to doctor Lawson about my son symptom and I ordered his medicine. my son used the medicine for month now, his health has change the meds worked without any trace of side effects. For over 1 year now seizure free if you don't have this herbal product it is available. It works, wonderfully. I'm so grateful that he was able to SURVIVE it.

Marcie Redford

This is very strange! My son never had seizures after he got immunized. I have had 5 grand mal seizures, it's caused by being pregnant plus I have a blood disease. My son didn't have silent seizures till he was 5. I never knew that the blood disease & seizures ran in my mom's family till I was in my mid 30's. Idiots! My son still gets seizures if he's over tired & needs to be on meds. He is in denial big time! He had one Nov. 14th in his sleep.


Our son didn't have seizures until his four month bolus vaccines and then suffered with petit mal seizures. NO ONE in our family has a seizure disorder. NO ONE.

I was in the hospital for two days/nights after giving birth. No one on our medical staff informed us our son was experiencing seizures (because he wasn't).

There is no such thing as coincidence...unless, of course, it's related to a vaccine.


I am so sorry Kimberly.


Kimberly faoro

Why is it that my daughter and I have the same truncating mutation but she only has seizures and I dont? No family history of seizures. I didn't get any vaccines until I was five my daughter got her 4 mon the DTap vaccine 6 hours layer she has her first seizure. Explain that. In fact here is my email...kimberly_faoro@stu.indianhills.edu I bet I don't get an explanation.

Julie Craig

My perfectly normal 4 month old grandson had his vaccines and two days later started having focal seizures which developed into infant spasms. He is now 11 months old and still having seizures and not quite sure if he is brain damaged. There is a link, I don't know what the link is but there is definately a link. If I had to do it all over again I would rethink vaccines not saying I would do without I would just research and not take for granted that our society knows what is best in all situations. We must have a choice as parents to do what WE feel is right because YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT and now we pay the price for the rest of our lives and the price is very sad and very unsetteling knowing we did not REALLY make the choice YOU DID .

Cherry Sperlin Misra

Just beautiful- One more syndrome with an appropriately wierd name to explain away the symptoms of mercury poisoning. And of course, its genetic (Conductor!- the trumpets!)
Just one more reminder that it is the very oddest thing for human children to develop normally.I cant understand why the evolutionary biologists arent weighing in on these topics.
And hey, Did they run out of Japanese names for mercury/aluminum poisoning? - Or did they just fail to do enough research to discover that Dravet's syndrome was very very common during the days of Minimata poisoning and is called something like Satoko Disease in Japan.
Simply absurd.
Or is this part of the effort to confuse and delay the truth? If so, Im sure that researchers will shortly come up with a variety of new syndromes- one for autistic bowel disease/ one for mercury caused speech delay/ one for whatever follows a couple of flu vaccines at age 6 months- or wait a minute, maybe that IS Dravets syndrome.Each syndrome, will of course, come prepackaged with its own gene- already discovered. You see what I mean friends- Soon we wont even be able to FIND autism in this haystack of new names.

michael framson

The study had limitations, including its retrospective design as well as its assessment of patients from a single referral center and exclusion of the 20% to 30% of children with Dravat syndrome who don't have SCN1A mutations.

In an accompanying editorial, Max Wiznitzer, MD, of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, wrote that more research would be informative.

There's something about this study that reminds me of Denmark.


My 6yr old with ASD had his first seizure at 7mths 2 weeks after his DTaP, Hib and Hep B shots. No one on either side of our family has seizures and our other 2 children are fine.

I remember taking my then baby to what is known as the top 3 tier childrens hospital and being told that "the risk from disease outweighs the side effects of the vaccines" I remember pleading for answers I was a first time mom but knew something was not right with what was being told to me. I thought how could they rule out the vaccine link without even considering it? That's when I learned about the blind love affair docs have with vaccines.

I wish I knew then what I know now. I wish someone told me about the unfair statute of limitations for the vaccine court and how docs will do everything in their power to prevent you form learning the truth so you can't assert a claim. I wish I knew then to read the package inserts which specifically state that babies with an unknown seizure disorder should not have further vaccinations- If only I could go back in time.


Further More!
No I am not done yet!
It says drugs suggested to take for Dravets is Depokote -- WRONG! What to see it induce seizures then give him valporic acid!

It says drugs to stay away from if you have Dravet syndrome that would be Dilantin.
WRONG! My son did great on Dilantin - same little sweet personality and we only got off of it because of the calcium depletion stuff!


I am done listening to any of these guys. Science and science language has long become a way of doing double talk and getting away with it. McIntosh is a fool that is wasting all our time.

Suzanne, my son too took years after the first seizure after the third DPT shot to finally be dignosed with epilepsy. Age 14 - but he should have been dignosed a lot sooner.

Are you really going to do the gene test?
If so let us know how that goes.

BUT in the mean time This is what I am keeping in my mind:

So what about the heart murmur my son had after his first DPT shot - did they explain that, is this part of the Dravat syndrome?

what about the passing out after the second DPT shot, is that what happens with babies with the Dravat Syndrome?

What about six hours after his third DPT shot and he goes catonic. Is this a common thing for Dravat syndrome?

What about six weeks later and he starts running a real high temperature out of nowhere - has a grand mal seizure and then has atypical Kawasaki's - Is this part of the Dravat syndrome?

What about my daughter - once again does she have dravat syndrome if she passes out from her fifth DPT shot with a 106 temperature?

Does my duaghter have Dravat's if she has Kawasaki's 6 weeks after her fourth DPT shot?

Is it part of Dravats syndrome if my daughter developes depression during her teen years.

Is it part of Dravats if my duaghter kept me up last night - out of her mind - after she had taken three ambien and it still would not put her to sleep?

Does Dravat syndrome cause high SED rates in my daughter?

Is it Dravats that my husband seized at age 28 after a tetanus shot (after receiving many tetanus shots before)?

Is it Dravats syndrome if my husband has acquried mitochondria disorded, dignosed because of severe muscle pains that developed after another tetanus shot at age 34?

Will McIntosh answer those questions for me?

Will the wiz doctor finding similiar stuff at theCleveland, Ohio answer these questions?

--- sorry - guys thanks for letting me vent a little.


J Child Neurol. 2010 Jan;25(1):107-9. Epub 2009 May 11.

Severe neuropathy after diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccination in a child carrying a novel frame-shift mutation in the small heat-shock protein 27 gene.
Mandich P, Grandis M, Varese A, Geroldi A, Acquaviva M, Ciotti P, Gulli R, Doria-Lamba L, Fabrizi GM, Giribaldi G, Pizzuti A, Schenone A, Bellone E.

Department of Neurosciences, Ophthalmology and Genetics-Section of Medical Genetics, University of Genova, Genova, Italy.

Mutations in small heat-shock protein 27 and small heat-shock protein 22 genes were found in association with Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 2 and distal hereditary motor neuropathy. We searched for mutations in small heat-shock protein 27 gene in an Italian family with peripheral neuropathy and intrafamilial phenotypic variability. A novel heterozygous frame-shift mutation c.476_477delCT was found while point mutations in most genes associated with hereditary neuropathies were ruled out. In the proband, who showed a severe early onset peripheral neuropathy, an independent pathogenetic effect on the peripheral nervous system secondary to the tetanus toxoid injection may be supposed. This is the first truncating nonsense mutation in the small heat-shock protein 27 gene identified so far and the clinical, neurophysiologic, and neuropathological findings are discussed.


I love when researchers make guesses with phrases like "probably"...they would have probably developed seizures anyhow. Funny, when lay people make such speculations they dismiss us as not understanding science. Sheesh!


When did mumps become a "dangerous disease"? Was it when the ineffective mumps vaccine turned it from a minor childhood illness into an adult disease?


So, where did the kids get the "mutations in the SCN1A gene"? Do their parents have those mutations. If so, do the parents have seizure disorders? If their parents don't have these mutations, what caused them?

How many people with these mutations in the SCN1A gene have seizure disorders? How do the rates of epilepsy compare among those with this mutation who were vaccinated according to the current schedule and those who were not?

They say that for some of the babies the first seizure did not occur shortly after a vaccine, so they think that lets vaccines off the hook? As veterinarian Jean Dodds said, "The onset of adverse reactions to conventional vaccinations... can be an immediate hypersensitivity or anaphylactic reaction, or can occur acutely (24-48 hours afterwards), or later on (10-45 days) in a delayed type immune response often caused by immune-complex formation."

From the Q&A at the above site, some advice on vaccinating dogs with epilepsy.
"Vaccinations, especially when used in excess of what is needed, are suspected of causing many serious problems in dogs: seizures, pancreatitis, inflammatory bowel disease, encephalitis..." Yes, that's written by a layperson, but what a coincidence that pet owners (and vets too) are observing the same connections between certain health issues and vaccines as are observed by parents of human children. One of those many remarkable coincidences, like how the rate of autism has increased at the same time as the vaccine schedule increased...

CT teacher

Since when did seizures become so common and accepted with just a shrug? I never heard of seizures in infants when my own kids and nieces and nephews were small in the 60's and 70's. Now I have family and friends whose grandkids have had seizures. In my teaching career, seizures were not a common occurrence. Now, in the schools where I work part time, they are a constant worry for the teaching staff. I don't care what these experts say. I believe what my own eyes and ears tell me. Something has changed and it cannot be the genes.

Amy in Idaho

So what's the point of all this research money being spent on finding the "magic gene" that "causes" autism if they are all just going to insist that kids take all the jabs anyway regardless of whether or not the vaccines will harm them specifically?


Another hannah Poling situation? What comes first the chicken or the egg.
Disgusting this so called logic.

Chris O'Connell

What were the causes of the SCN1A polymorphisms? Genetic mutations can be caused by toxins...in cancer we call these toxins "carcinogens". They cause healthy cells to genetically mutate thereby causing cancer. Just because a genetic mutation is identified doesn't mean it was present at conception...quite possibly, these children could have been damaged by the toxins in their vaccinations, leading to the genetic mutation that makes them susceptible to Dravet Syndrome...makes me wonder about the CPOX4 and ALAD2 polymorphisms which predispose people to have an inability to excrete heavy metals. Just thinking out loud...

A Friend

Unbelievable. It isn't the vaccines that trigger this form of epilepsy in children. It's their defective genes. It is just a coincidence that it happens within hours/days/weeks of their vaccinations. It would have happened anyway even without vaccination.... Do people really buy this crap? I mean, I'm going crazy here.......


I know this may be a silly question but what is the DX code for vaccine encephalopathy? What other DX did the children in the Samuel Berkovic study have?


Do they even know what percentage of people have that gene that never develop Dravet's at all? I'd say they wouldn't know if kids are "likely to develop Dravet's" anyhow unless they have that information.

Reading this made me sick because my son's regression came after his 6 month DPT. He would cut in and out...be in his own world, the suddenly snap back to us, whereas before the shot there was none of this. Years later he had been diagnosed with a 24/7 Petite Mal seizure condition because he coninued to regress into middle childhood. Now I guess he should be tested for this. Now my question is could undiagnosed Dravet's/DpT induced Petite Mals lead to Autistic-like symptoms.


"but stressed the babies in the study would likely have developed seizures within months regardless of the vaccine"

This is "No 9. Fortune-telling" in the list of ploys used to manipulate parents

"Wiznitzer, who was not involved in the study, said "effective and accurate information and communication" could help maintain public confidence in vaccines."

Such as


"but stressed the babies in the study would likely have developed seizures within months regardless of the vaccine"


There are just no words to explain this idiocy.

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