i would like to shed some light on this situation. my son is 9 months old. he was given the his first round of merck rotatech on december 1st, at 4 months old. he was perfectly healthy, thriving gainging weight and beautifully developing as were my other 3 kids. unfortunatly, from the vaccine, my son developed full blown rotavirus and was nearly hospitalized. in 12 days, he dropped from 13lbs, down to 10lbs. on december 12th, he was in to see the doctor who put him on enfamil nutramigen. he has not been the same. at 9 months old, he weighs only 14lbs, 4 oz. and is slowly losing weight. he is being tested for everything under the sun and nothing has come up yet. my husband and i are convinced whatever this cause is, is derived from the vaccine for rotavirus given in december. he is unable to gain weight and has been labeled with the diagnosis "failure to thrive". he also is not developing physically as far as progress with crawling, moving, etc. he has just "remastered" rolling over which he was doing very well at 3 1/2 months old. yet they are saying none of the situations are linked. we are now looking at a situation that seems unfavorable for all involved. doctors won't say it was the vaccine because of the ties it has with pharmacutical companie, meanwhile, my son is losing ounces every week, despite the appitite of a horse. his daily intake consists of 34-40 oz of formula, 2, 4 oz. jars of baby food and also rice cereal/oatmeal so we definitly know it isn't malnutrition on our part. is my case valid enough to take to the cdc to say "hey, your vaccine shouldn't be used!!"?? thanks for any input or light you can shed on our situation.

So, let me make sure I have this correct: tomorrow, Monday May 10,2010 any infants/toddlers who are vaccinated for Rotovirus will be vaccinated with vaccines that the FDA admitted on friday May 7, 2010 are infected with pig virus. All children vaccinated with RotaTeq and Rotarix from last friday forward are being given vaccine that the FDA knows is infected with pig virus. Beyond comprehension.

The Rotavirus vaccine is becoming unpopular. First it was the injury claims, then its effectiveness questioned in healthy individuals, and now the contamination issues.
It reminds me of when the Pertussis vaccine supposedly was threatening to put the vaccine industry out of business because of injury claims.
Maybe they could turn this around too and combine Rotavirus with a couple other viruses we think we need (a couple swine flu strains perhaps) and triple the profits.

I just reread Chapter 7 and 8 in "A Shot in The Dark" 1991 edition.

Nothing has changed. That book is as current today as it was when first published.

On second thought, things have changed for the worse. More vaccines, more scandals, more bad science, same egregious behaviors of those closest to the vaccine industry.

Dr. Offit is working on a vaccine for the pig virus this weekend. He had some leftover Thimerosal on hand, so no need to fear.

He will be seeking volunteers for testing early next week at CHOPs. Dr. Nancy will be on hand to shoot em up...

They want to "save the children again..."

3-4 doses will be needed to provide full immunity...

Just when you think the FDA couldn't get any lower!

Porcine circovirus. I mistakenly read that as "Porcine Circus".

Viruses trade DNA, which how the recent swine flu virus was created. Who's to say whether PCV isn't interacting with live vaccine viruses (or other as-yet undiscovered rogue animal viruses in these vaccines)?

Wouldn't it be sci fi if it turned out that one of these animal viruses was designed to, say, make a monkey flap its hands and develop an overwhelming fascination for water because this somehow benefitted the virus? I remember someone at AOA wrote a post a while ago on how certain viruses can induce incredibly specific behavior. One virus can make an ant, for instance, climb up and down a blade of grass to increase the chances it will be eaten by a grazing cow-- the virus's real target.

I doubt that's the exact case with autism but do these regulatory authorities have any idea if something of this nature (viral crossover to humans impacting specific behaviors) is possible? I don't think so.

kn:
Qualifier:"wasting conditions that confound their doctors and specialists"

It is easy to diagnose a wasting condition, just look at the person who is dying. Finding the source or cause and an appropriate treatment is the problem. Doctors and specialists who are confounded by all treatments that do not stop the progression have now been afforded the opportunity to research another avenue on behalf of their patients - the incorporation of porcine wasting viral DNA into humans.

How many of our children with autism are considered "non-responders" to gut and nutritional therapies, continuing to suffer from failure to thrive, functional malnutrition and chronic illness? Perhaps the issue here is not whether wasting conditions exist, but that the treatments are targeted to known human viral/bacterial/pathogenic conditions when in fact, for some, it needs to be targeted to chimeric epigentic changes.

So Mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde and now pig viruses are fine to shoot into babies. I am so proud of the FDA, the CDC and our medical establishment. (Being ironical.)

Also cannot wait for Paul Offit and the vaccine cheerleaders new defense of Rotateq: "A baby's immune system can handle up to 100,000 pig viruses at the same time."

grammaknows: wasting conditions have been around us forever. we are just better at diagnosing it now. no apology letter needed.

hmm..people who have chrohns have often been tested to have a cow bacteria in their stomachs called paratuberculosis. Interestingly, if you look at the lining of a cow infected, it exactly matches that of a human. It's not weeded out with the pasteurization process. And before people had Chrohns, they drank milk. Who's to say, an unknown pig virus, surpassing the mucousal lining and directly going in the blood stream doesn't create all sorts of unknown havoc, brain attack, seizures? It's time to drop the antigens over ten thousand theory. That's all well fine and good if you have a great immune system, and it's not injected directly into your bloodstream? Even when you have one exposure to an agent, it's enough for our children to have tipped balances. I am sorry but protecting our kids at ALL COSTS has gone a little too far. I only hope parents get real selfish, real soon, or realize our kids are guinee pigs and lab rats. And my kids survived fine without a diahrreah vaccine. GEEZ.

I have a Autistic 3yr old son, who had a severe reaction following his MMR and totally regressed. I have been trying to educate myself on all vaccines and the issues out there.

I listened to the entire meeting via webcast yesterday, and at the end of the meeting, there was no actual "yes" or "no" about allowing the vaccs to be used while contaminated. There were Dr's on the panel that had some serious concerns about long term effects that could not be seen yet, and there were Dr's who questioned the fact that PCV2 had not been discussed in enough detail that they felt comfortable about it, and then there were Dr's on the panel who said the all famous "Benefits far outweigh the Risks". After the meeting, I went online, and the Journalists for many websites (even WSJ) had already immediately posted articles saying there was no eveidence of harm, etc... But the decision was not made at the meeting. The panel said they had serious issues to figure out before any decision would be made.
(for example, how to notify the public about the situation either way on the outcome without further causing "distrust" in vaccines) Some of the Dr's on the panel even went as far as to say they did not feel really comfortable telling a parent that "yes, this vaccine contains PCV1, and short term effects show no harm in humans, but we do not know about the long term effects". Barbara Loe Fisher was also allowed to make statements, and they were extremely good, and I believe made the panel think about what she said, as that was some of their concerns in the end.

Did they make the decision overnight lastnight to go ahead and continue use of the Rotarix and Rotateq vaccines?

Just curious...is the PCV scented candle available now from Autism Speaks?

Per, Beth Clay's comment..............

"Those who want the nation's children to continue taking this vaccine while they continue to study its safety ought to roll up their sleeves and take the vaccine publicly."

I agree 1,000,000 percent.

Those like Paul Offit who push the pus (vaccines) should take these poisons adjusted upwards for their body weight.

On another subject, now that we do not take Eric out when we see him at the residential center, aggressions seem to have dissipated and we were told that recently they have seen Eric with a smile on his face. Eric has a structured environment there and when we took him out it probably added to his confusion.

If people face aggressions with their child/adults with autism they should consider getting a lawyer to place their child/adult with an appropriate residential center. As in our case, we could not cope with the situation and when the time comes that we are no longer around, we know he will be taken care of in a good place where he will be safe (especially where doors are locked). Also, they won't be calling us to say we have to take him home because they can't cope with him like they did at his school in NJ.

Are these the same people who say the SV40 virus doesn't affect anyone?
With decisions like these is it any surprise that 39 percent of parent now delay or spread out vaccines?
Interesting about the comment of how the vaccine helps in areas of the world where they can't adequately treat dehydration. I just read yesterday the opposite opinion that these vaccines don't even protect against the type of germ that causes the majority of diarrhea in the developing countries.

No surprise there. But Hong Kong recalled it. Better safe than sorry (not in USA though).

"The FDA said it wouldn't decide whether it would recommend that use of Merck's Rotateq be suspended or whether it would lift its suspension recommendation involving Glaxo's Rotarix in advance of the meeting."

hmmn, that's interesting

Suspend one but not the other?

Glaxo's Rotarex, English company = suspended
Merk's Rotatech, American co., same virus found = not suspended

I'm just sayin'

Assignment for the FDA panel members:
Scenario - the viral contamination incites autoimmune responses and causes a wasting away condition in children through molecular mimicry, and is discovered to do so exactly 10 years from the date the viral contamination was discovered.

The assignment is to compose an apology letter to the children and their parents.

when your assignment is complete, the committee will reconvene and discuss the current decision in terms more appropriate than suggesting the use of these products continue on the basis of not knowing if they cause long term consequences. Hell, you didn't even know the contamination existed, and until there is extensive study done to determine what foreign DNA of a mammal virus will do in an infant and not an adult, get over the mind shock that it exists and do the right thing to protect more children from exposure.

...and sharpen those letter writing skills because there are children who have wasting conditions that confound their doctors and specialists. Next step is doing tests on the children for presence or incorporation of the viral DNA. Tread carefully on your assurances.