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Safety first By Dan Olmsted

In their latest e-mail, our friends at The One Click Group in England carry a story about how H1N1 vaccinations for pregnant women have been suspended in Thailand after one woman suffered a miscarriage a day after getting the shot.

Yes, that's right. ONE WOMAN suffered a miscarriage ONE DAY after getting a shot. "The Public Health Ministry yesterday denied any link between the vaccinations and the foetal death," the Bangkok Times reported, but as a precaution suspended flu shots among pregnant women pending an investigation into the miscarriage in the south province of Satun.
The ministry took the step even as it stood by the shot. "There is no substantiated report of H1N1 having a harmful effect on pregnant women," Public Health permanent secretary Paijit Warachit said. "The product is certified and safe for use."

I guess this is what you'd call the precautionary principle at work. In the U.S., what you'd get is the condescending bit about post hoc-ergo propter hoc, or however you say it -- just because one thing happened after another thing doesn't mean the first thing caused the second thing.

Yes, but it doesn't mean it didn't, if you follow me. As I understand it, at least in this country, flu shots have NOT been tested for safety among pregnant woman, a glaring statement that CDC officials treat as some kind of technicality, like the fine print of page 4 of your credit card statement that says they can raised your interest rate anytime they feel like it. But that lack of safety testing ought to tip the balance even more quickly in favor of assessing the risk part of the risk-benefit ratio, WHENEVER a possible adverse event is recorded.

In this country, there have been plenty of alarming reports of reactions to the flu shot, none of which have caused even a whisper of concern in the public health or mainstream media worlds. In November we reported on what I considered to be a shocking pattern of miscarriage and fetal death after the flu shot. Here's just the first four reports from that article, which you can read HERE.

November 6, 2009 at 11:00 am (40) "*" says:

"I'm from a town of 2000 in SD, there are several women pregnant and we are all due within a few weeks of each other. Four of us got the H1N1 vaccine 2 weeks ago and one by one each of us started to have preterm contractions. We are all due in Nov and Dec so we are further along than most of the people that lost their babies. There is no way you can tell us that our preterm labor was not caused by the H1N1 vaccine. It may look like a "fluke" to some people when these women are scattered all over the country but we are talking about 4 of us in our small community. My heart goes out to all of you that lost your babies."

Posted on Sun Nov 15 04:19:29 2009 by "*"

The reports are rolling in: HERE  (*) says:

I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!

October 29, 2009 at 8:33 am (3) says:

i work in a hospital like setting and was told 'the benefits outweigh the risks" 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
Yes, Age of Autism readers, you decide. My view? When's the next plane to Thailand?
Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism.



Betty Senior

The only way to stop bird flu indefinitely is to never let it happen in the first place. Stop it at source. http://avian-influenza.cirad.fr/content/download/1931/11789/file/Kennedy-F-Shortridge.pdf

just a Mother

Yes,Jen-they want us to die sooner.We are not dying fast enough for them.They do not want to pay for elder health care or pension very long.I agree with you 100%.

just a Mother

The flue dose that given to the mother is damaging to that little developing fetus. I
know that the formula has the capability to
transfer through the placenta.Those immature
liver and kidneys can not deal with this toxic load. They have not done safety studies,
they do not know/do not care about the harm they are causing.This is part of the population reduction plan.It is a crime against the unborn.


I have not read thru the comments so I apologize if this has already been mentioned but after four years of research it appears their goal is they want us to have fertility issues and to make sure we die sooner than later. Am I the only one seeing this? It sounds crazy but its the only logical explanation. Other countries ban chemicals from their milk, we have not. Another country becomes nervous when there is report of miscarry, we do not. Other places have banned fluoride from their water (which causes fertility issues), we have not. We feed our children and people GMO's without blinking, they do nothing. We continue to use other chemicals all known to cause fertility issues and yet nothing is done. We have almost the highest mortality rate, the public eye doesn't become concerned. This list can go on and on...

I'm wondering when everyday people will stop wasting precious energy arguing with each other and take a look at the real enemy. When do we all form together and demand answers?

Kathy Blanco

This will never happen in the good ole USA, we are too beholden to pharmaceutical conglomerates. USA is run by these people...and our president on down know it, but have their hands tied...

If only....if only people refused them in mass, then we would get somewhere people....until then, I won't hold my breathe...


Today on TV. The H1N1 vaccine - in Canada the hospitals are filling up with patients with neurological disorders.

Anybody else hear this?

Sandy Gottstein

Sadly, this is nothing new. I wrote about a similar situation in 2002:

Scandals - Vaccine-related infant deaths - When is enough, enough? http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/Oct_18_02/Scandal38.htm

All the best,
Sandy Gottstein

Cathy Jameson

Scary stuff. It's unfortunate that the yet-to-be-born are instant victims of big pharma.

Kelly L

Great points Bob M.

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".

post shock

Regular flu shots have cost my family:

1 grandfather/father/husband
2 children's cognitive health
1 unborn child

Ergo, we've decided.

Darian (nickname)

Ah yes, integrity. Caring about those you are supposed to serve. I almost forgot such things still existed in this world! It is nice to know not everyone bows down at the altar of the Almight Greenbacks!! It is a sad thing to think how far we have gone astray from the founding ideals of our country.

I do believe if those who worked so hard to build our country could see what it has become, they would shake thier heads in sorrow. For our goverment has become what we fought so hard against. A tyrant (Goverment in general), who's goals have more to do with greenbacks than watching the people's backs.

Makes me wonder if such a thing would have happened then, or those people lived in our times, how they would react to what is happening here. For I begin to think perhaps it is coming to be the time for us to have our own Boston Tea Party.

Something to get Big Pharma and the goverment to realize we are not going to just lie there and continue to take it anymore.

david burd

Dan, The CDC, despite its willful negligence and keeping its head in the sand on "cause & effect" of vaccines/autism-spectrum, does provide extensive Flu stats on its government website, and easily pulled up.

For instance, going back to the Flu season 2003-2004, on the heels of the iatrogenically-contrived SARS debacle in the Spring of 2003, great publicity was generated in September of 2003 (10 weeks ahead of the usual fanfare the first week of December called National Flu Shot Week) for parents to bring in their babies for shots. This continued through the Fall.

The consequence: The 2003-2004 Pediatric Flu-associated mortality came to 152 deaths (the official figure per the CDC), followed in 2004-2005 with 39 Pediatric flu-associated deaths when the public was not stampeded to get their babies vaccinated. So, 2004-2005 was a "normal" flu-season without extra publicity like 2003-2004.

After 2004-2005, Pediatric flu-associated deaths have consistently been higher, about 70-100 deaths per year as more and more parents unwittingly take their babies for flu vaccine shots.

Yet, the distinct highest U.S. Pediatric death toll in 2003-2004 cannot be erased, and it correlates precisely with Federal officials and Vaccine Maker publicists dramatically urging people to bring in their infants to be vaccinated several months ahead of the actual "flu-season" - and with the babies mainly dying ahead of the usual flu-season (that never begins earlier than late December, after Vitamin D deficiency becomes evident after long, dark months).

All this is on the CDC's own website (except my interpretation of course!)

A Mom

The blatant disregard pharmaceutical companies and the entities that enable them have for PEOPLE and CHILDREN just pisses me off. They don't even PRETEND to care. They treat those they damage like they are NOTHING while raking in billions in profits every year. And they wonder - why the disdain? They wonder - why public distrust is GROWING. When will our leader, Democratic President Barack Obama stand up for Americans instead of industry? We wanted more than W with a tan. We were promised CHANGE. I didn't take that to mean change for the worse.


Pregnancy and vaccines don't mix. Period.

The opportunistic infectious disease crowd (otherwise known as vaccine pushers) loves pregant women as an easy to reach target market. Pregnant women are in the OB/GYN's office 8-10 times during pregnancy for prenatal visits. Plus there's the mom-to-be's concern for the baby in utero and that too makes this group of patients a very attractive market for vaccines.

Too bad the vaccines have never been tested on pregnant women. And too bad every vaccine on the market states clearly that it's never been tested for it's ability to impair fertility or harm a baby in utero.

So why are vaccines and pregnancy a bad combination?

Pregnancy is a natural time of immuno-suppression. The immune system automatically and very naturally down regulates to enable the foreign DNA containing embryo to implant and grow.

Without the immune suppression, the maternal immune system would target the embryo and placenta as a foreign invader and never allow pregnancy to occur.

Vaccines are bad in pregnancy because they stimulate the immune system - and fire it right up into action! Cellular and humoral immune fighters flare up fast in response to the foreign antigenic material in the vaccine. Excessive inflammation from an agitated immune system can absolutely wreak havoc on the delicate down-regulated environment in utero.

The immune system's role in preterm labor, miscarriage and still births has been written about extensively by the late Dr. Alan Beer, a reproductive immunologist.

Don't take my word for it. Look it up.

Bob Moffitt

Recently, a million child cribs were recalled because several children suffered severe injuries, including death .. due to the crib's faulty collapsible design.

Another million or so baby strollers were recalled because several children had suffered severe injuries after having their fingers caught in the faulty mechanism of the stroller.

One wonders how many children it will take before public health agencies exercise the same precautious, due diligence .. these manufacturers have undertaken to provide safety for the children they serve?

Anne McElroy Dachel

I remember before the big push for the H1N1 in the U.S., health officials were already calculating the number of miscarriages that normally occurred...all intended, I'm sure, to be "evidence" that no matter how many women miscarried after the flu shot, it was just a coincidence.
Anne Dachel

A Mom

Plase contact CoMeD to inquire about the numbers of women in the US that miscarried following the H1N1 flu shot and also ask about their public service anncouncement request.

It would seem that American officials have abandoned their their morals and ethics whilst some other countries still believe in acting out of an abundance of caution when it is warranted.

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