It occurs to me that through out history Bullies or those in Power (gee, can that be the same thing?)... will often pick on the poor/uneducated/disadvantaged because they are soft targets.

If an Official/agency "looks" knowledeable,respectable, important, folks who do not have the resources or education to know what questions to ask, will often "trust" them. Modern culture has drummed into folks to "trust" Doctors/Public Health Officials/etc.

When people are educated,whether through University Degrees, or Self Education of Reading Research and such, they know what questions to ask. They know when an interpretation of the "facts" doesnt make sense. They really are a threat to those preferring "Soft Targets".

I'm a nurse, well, was a nurse. I'm a homeschooling mom whose son
responded well to a 40 hour per week ABA language based program.
I was a ped's nurse, which means I have very ambivalent feelings about vaccines. When my son was 5 I took him in for a flu shot. Flu shots come in multi-dose vials and thus still contain thimerisol as a preservative. Overnight my son lost ground on language and behavior (ABA charts goal progress for everything that the child does on a daily basis.) It took two to three months of hard work to catch up to where he had been. So I know J, now 11 yrs old, will not see a vaccination needle again.

But, don't laugh at me, my young teen daughter is now due for vaccine boosters. I was trained to believe in vaccines, and have seen some of the diseases in children that the vaccines are meant to prevent. Is my daughter safer with or without boosters? Opinions, please. Thanks.

When I began this fight for my son, my mother-in-law and her friend called me "Tiny Warrior." Now I think I'll start going by "dangerous, tiny warrior!"

Transcript from a meeting of "White and Multi-Ethnic Married Educated Females Who Won't Get Offline or Shut Up and the Men Who Love Them":

Dude 1: It's like, I know I'm supposed feel bored, angry and neglected when she starts rattling off some list of toxic substances which induce cytokine disregulation from some science site but, I don't know man, it just DOES it for me. What's wrong with me?

Moderator: It's okay, it's okay. That's what we're all here for. We're in this together.

Dude 2: It does it for me too, I know what you mean!

Moderator: Remember, no cross-talk brothers.

Dude 2: Sorry man.

Dude 3: I'll just speak from the heart. I feel like I'm not a real man. I liked my NPR and Wired Magazine. These things were ME, my identity! Now I don't know who I am anymore or what to think. Every time we're in the car and I just want to find out what I think from Talk of the Nation and Neil Conan even mentions something pharmaceutical...which he does kind of a lot, come to think of it... she starts screaming at the radio. And Wired-- I just want to know about the new gadgets and read about alpha male Russian arms dealers with five o'oclock shadows having sex with punk groupies in Vladivostok-- but then she grabs my precious Wired, waves it in my face and starts howling about all the vaccine-autism propaganda in every issue. You'd think I'd be mad, right? [starts to cry]. I'm so ashamed. I know I shouldn't, but I...actually listen. And...it's so wrong [receives a hug from moderator]...but she starts making sense! And then it's just never the same when I turn on NPR! I can't just soak it in anymore, I start...thinking critically! [wails] I can't get it out of my head that...NPR is sponsored by Johnson & Johnson and that Johnson & Johnson doesn't just make sweet, harmless baby shampoo in the familiar bland bottle...

Moderator: It's alright, man. It's alright. We've all been there...

Dude 3: And the worst part...and this is what really kills me is that...the post-listening-to-her sex is...really good. I'm totally hooked now. I may never break free. And now I'm listening all the time and I...I've been going online myself...I've really started to believe that huge corporations might not have our best interests at heart at all times...

Dude 4: [Gasps] No! I thought I was the only one...

Moderator: No cross talk, brothers.

Great article, Katie. And Amen to Kevin Barry commenting below.

"We know history will look on Snyderman and Offit as fools. Years from now, the medical textbooks will mock injecting infants with mercury, they will be puzzled as to why it was a good idea (for the child) to give six shots in one day to a two month old, and they will wonder why the public did not realize that flushing toilets, clean water, proper nutrition, and refrigerated food are the best defenses against infectious disease."

In my own history of medicine books (a passion of mine) you can see the present fiasco reoccurring time and again in the past, for example, in the decades it took to convince most doctors of the benefits of hygiene that they kept making fun of for years, and refusing to adopt even longer. Unbiased and not glorified medical history SHOULD be mandatory reading to all medical practitioners to try to prevent that horrible God complex most doctors have.

Now, Why am I dangerous? Not only do I refuse to vaccinate my youngest son because the CDC assurance on vaccine safety just can't be trusted if you have half a brain, but I am also a former cronic sufferer of gastric acid reflux and took Prilosec (omeprazole) for years to eliminate my horrible heartburn. After its increasingly worse side effects and the certainty that blocking acid production can't be good (it's there for a reason), I took the advice of a commenter on Huffington Post. This well docummented person affirmed that the problem for most of us is not with the relaxed stomach entry but it occurs mainly by the failure of the stomach exit (the pylorus) to let the food out in due time. It turns out that the pylorus is activated by the increasing ph in the stomach due to raised acid production as we eat, which some of us do not make in enough quantity to signal the pylorus that it's time for the food to move on. Following his suggestion, I threw away my omeprazole and started drinking apple cider vinegar diluted in water after meals several months ago and I haven't had a problem since. After you drink the vinegar (65 cents per bottle, lasts for a month) the pylorus opens up and you feel immediate relief. Welcome naturally ph raising vinegar and goodbye horrible $15-a-box omeprazole for life. Spread the word...

Well, I guess that "useless" history degree finally served some purpose. If there's one thing I got out of my education, it's that you always go to the original sources. So no, I'm not going to blindly accept what Nancy says just because she's on TV. I bypass the CDC's website and go right to the studies. I'm another one who actually reads the study, not just the abstract. What do I do if I come across a word or term I don't understand? I LOOK IT UP! I think I learned that back in elementary school, although now we have that dangerous internet which makes things so much easier.

You know what's really dangerous, Nancy? Word is getting out. My very intelligent, inquisitive, savvy, but NOT college-educated hairdresser has already decided she won't vaccinate her children. She sees autism all around her. For some reason all these highly educated doctors just learned how to diagnose it, hence the increase in numbers, but my hairdresser has recognised it for years. She also uses the internet and talks to other moms. Can we put dangerous hairdressers up on that pie chart?

Debunking the Internet is so 2005.

Good article Katie!

You've got to understand the pressure Snyderman is under. It's hard to be infallible. It's certainly hard for those who promote the perfection of the vaccine program like Snyderman etc. to admit mistakes. The doctrine is, "we don't make mistakes."

New information and new ways to communicate have transformed the past twenty years in a similar way discovery and the printing press transformed the early 1500's. Someone forgot to tell Snyderman that we can read the safety studies ourselves, and that Latin mass is over.

Copernicus first published his view that the Sun, and
not the Earth, was the center of the universe anonymously in 1512. He did not want to be burned at the stake for challenging doctrine. He didn't put his name to the final draft until he was an old man, @ 25 years later. The Church/Scripture could not be wrong. Both were infallible. Scientists had to be careful with new truths if they wanted to survive. To challenge Church doctrine in 1500 was ACTUAL suicide. (Challenging vaccine doctrine in 2009 is only career suicide.)

In 1522, one of the ships from Magellan's circumnavigation made it back to Portugal, putting to rest once and for all that the Earth was round. The Church was scared that a round Earth might hurt their central narrative of heaven = up, and hell = down.

One of the men on Magellan's ship kept a daily log. When they returned, the ships log said it was a different date than the date in Portugal. They couldn't explain it, so they locked the sailor with the daily log in the tower, and the Vatican locked the log up FOR 300 YEARS, releasing it in 1822!!! (Both stories from the very good William Manchester book, "A World Lit Only by Fire".)

There is a lot of pressure that comes with infallibility. Snyderman and Offit are certainly feeling it. We are beginning to see the cracks. We know history will look on Snyderman and Offit as fools. Years from now, the medical textbooks will mock injecting infants with mercury, they will be puzzled as to why it was a good idea (for the child) to give six shots in one day to a two month old, and they will wonder why the public did not realize that flushing toilets, clean water, proper nutrition, and refrigerated food are the best defenses against infectious disease.

Kevin

I wish we could have pasted our graduate school diplomas to our dangerous bods and went trick or treating at Nancy's to give her the biggest scare of her MD career.

Oh, and Nancy, I TA’d 3 years of med student labs at a top 20 med school while completing my PhD. Don’t get me wrong, the med students’ abilities to memorize and regurgitate was phenomenal. But have them examine their lab results and then provide them a multiple choice question with an answer in direct conflict to what they saw? Lets just say, each year I was astounded how many failed in the observation/extrapolation department. Its no wonder the Dr's have a hard time identifying the vaccine injury symptoms after the vaccines--their text books didn't contain this information.

Last time they blamed educated women for a health crisis, was the first time vaccines, oops - I mean autism started showing up.

I have to confess, I am a dangerous woman. It's true! On the internet, I learned how to fix my own washing machine. I downloaded schematics, tested circuits, ordered and replaced an electronic motor control board. On the internet, I learned how to cure my kid's autism! I attend conferences! Yes, I am a dangerous woman! I am an Adobe Acrobat! I download! And I'm educated! Degrees from a better journalism school than Sniderman! A minor in psychology that included coursework in biochemistry of the brain! Be afraid! Be very afraid! Because I share everything I know with anyone who asks, and some who don't, especially pregnant women! With references!

Kristina: you made my day! What can be better than driving Nancy Snyderman? Being part of a movement that has helped a mom make informed decisions so that she doesn't have to see her kids succumb to autism.

You ROCK! Thanks so much for posting!

Nancy better be scared of me. I pray nightly that the truth comes out about vaccines. And we all know what side of the truth good ol Nancy is on. :)
Nancy, as we say in the South, bless your heart honey because when the shit hits the fan - you and your other outspoken buddies will be first in line.

Nancy, you should be ashamed of yourself, devoting time to creating pie charts of pesky people who get in the way of the almighty vaccine schedule. You should be devoting time to reading studies that show evidence of harm (Hewitsons, some Warsaw studies, Cochrane Reviews, U. of Manitoba re. dpt and asthma etc. etc.- I'm sure more are coming!); you know, studies that actually show there's reason for pause.
You could also be blowing the whistle (as a doctor/science person) on how poorly done the studies "exhonerating" the vaccine link to autism.
It's funny but yesterday I made a vow to myself to tell one person each day about the issue of over-vaccination, thimerosal, adjuvant, multiple shots at one visit, the uselessness of hep b to babies etc. you know, the stuff that is debilitating our children left and right. Today I got to talking to the medical technician (who was pregnant and deciding on a flu shot-she's trying to wait at least for an adjuvant-free one but may not get one at all. I gave her Russell Blaylock's name to help her decide. I also told her that I work with kids with autism and why I think the vaccines are a huge piece of the puzzle. All that, Nancy, and I was picturing your face and that stupid pie chart while I was doing it.
This piece of pie is stoked!!
Oh yeah, did I mention that you really ought to be ashamed of yourself for so knowingly putting American children at risk??? I hope the money is worth it for you.

c'mon. I have to agree with Nancy. Well informed moms are a dime a dozen in a pediatricians office. However - you should see the doctors face when a well informed dad shows up with his own list of vaccines and brands he is willing to let his child get.

The truth is not that internet has created a deluded cult of false experts as some articles related to Ms. Wallace's story have suggested. The truth is that a diligent person who has been educated in research 101 and critical thinking is now able to become a micro topic expert and be better informed then highly paid professionals in almost any field. You can't even make a phone call these days without someone googling the information you are given in real time and getting to primary sources. So, yes, professionals have their backs up these days, but they better get used to it and adapt rather then try and pull some dark ages all knowing BS like Snyderman is dishing out. Vaccines , overall, are wonderfully good. But the cult of people claiming they are unquestionably 100% good are the deluded ones, and in sacrificing the whole truth to simplify their message, they have sacrificed their claim to the high ground in what could have been an easy win.

My dear uncle tells me God picked me for this cause because I don't know how to take "no" for an answer.

What he means is that I am a "type A" personality and yes educated and upper middle class. A mom whose child has been harmed; who knows how to ask questions and what sources to trust in the answers; who doesn't want to see any more children harmed in the same manner as her own; who is happy to give hours of my time in the hopes that it might save one child.

I am a Mom who will tell a pediatrician that it is ultimately "my decision" as to whether or not my children receive vaccines and who will tell the dentist I don't care how safe he might think amalgams are.."you are not filling my child's tooth with an unnecessary dose of mercury when there are other perfectly viable options."

Yes, I ask questions, read and require informed consent. The truth is, I'm not dangerous. I am just a pain in the ass to the status quo. UNACCEPTABLE!

To Kelli,

You gotta remember that it's these dangerous educated women that somehow get men to hold purses.

The measure of how dangerous they are is how quick they can get a man to hold their purse.

Hey! Dr. Nancy is scared of me!

This makes my day. Maybe we need to come up with our own pie-chart graph, one that shows what the "average" egocentric, arrogant, lying, manipulative, greedy, pharma-bought-and-paid-for American doctor looks like these days.

It is because of you "dangerous women" that my children are perfectly healthy and NT. I learned from you before I got pregnant, so my kids never needed recovering. (Other than being treated for gestational Lyme disease), and I'm convinced they would be autistic if I had vaccinated them.

I am interested in autism because I see it everywhere, and I want to help people prevent it like you helped me!

Katie and Kim:

Oh my gosh! This is hysterical!!!

We haven't had that kind of "pic" on here since the "boob study"....

LOL.

Since the late 70's, I've had a little resin statue sitting on my desk. It is a woman wearing a hard hat, holding a metal lunch box in one had and a hammer in the other.

At her feet it says: "The best man for a job is often a woman."

I am a dangerous woman and "the little lady" as some like to call her, is my role model.

I think it's time Dr. Nancy looked at the trends. Why does she think people are flocking to shop at their "organic markets" and Whole Foods (fastest growing grocery chain), buying low phosphate products, insist on no VOC paints? Why, because we no longer trust the government to protect us from manufacturers, big corporations, and BIG Pharma... We're OVER IT! The green movement is about more then just hybrid vehicles. It is about cleaning up our TOXIC WORLD and saving our children along with the planet. We've all become granola & tree hugging because we just can't trust anyone these days. We learned from the Tabacco industry who even had doctors recommend to our moms to smoke so they could have a smaller baby. How smart was that. I wish I had opened my eyes before I had my son instead of after he became autistic.
I didn't roll over when I was told there was nothing you could do about autism, and I'm not going to roll over now because of Dr. Nancy. If I can save ONE family from the pain, suffering, and expense of having a child on the spectrum I will SCREAM it from mountains until the day I am dead.

I am so proud of the young parents I meet in the health food stores proudly showing off their ORGANIC, NON-Vaccinated children. They didn't need the wake up call of Autism to figure this out. We need to acknowledge them for coming into the fold and learning from our mistakes!

When my son was diagnosed with Autism, I didn't pray to God to fix him, I prayed to God for knowledge on how to help him. That's what he gave me and that's what I use every day to help anyone who wants it. We're not the "Lunatic Fringe" we're now "Informed Consumers". What they fear most is we vote with our wallets and don't keep our mouths shut about it. Dr. Nancy shoud fear us!

There is a conspiracy.

My wife and I were once a team of spies. However, we are now retired. Even my weird brother was involved, his code name was "Machete." Eventually our children became sick and we were forced to retire. Several years ago (before our children got sick) our last assignment was a covert mission to make sure that ALL college educated women (not just white women) were made aware of vaccines and their dangerous adjuvants. We even manipulated a well known search engine that would enable them to find this information quickly and in great detail.

Just recently my old agency partner (a microbiologist)came clean and warned that there would be a pandemic in the Ukraine caused by Baxter and was taken away by some other agency. Thats all I can tell you.

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Hey fellow fierce moms and dads:
There is truth in the saying:
"Well-behaved women, rarely make history".
This means women of all races, creeds, and disabilities. I am sitting here, with the sounds of John Cougar MellenCamp, echoing in my head..."The wall, comes crumbling down..the wall, comes tumbling, down".
The wall is tumbling down, Dr. Snyderman, because of ALL the free-thinking people who can sift through the facts and see that we have been misled and lied to and our precious children are suffering for it.

It is not just the autism community either. How can we explain the increased incidents of childhood diabetes, rheumotoid arthritis, asthma, ADHD, and Sensory processing disorder? Not to mention Alzeheimers. Care to weigh in on those diseases too, Dr. Snyderman?

Is there a link to the Dr. Nancy pie chart show ?

I'll bet she does not even make her own pie charts...

Quote of the day "Well behaved women rarely make history" Go get em ladies!! And you men who are strong enough to stand with us and behind us.

Of course, another category that Nancy forgot is all those over educated health care workers,physicians and RNs who did NOT want to be mandated to get a flu vaccine.
Wonder why she did not mention that demographic?
And it appears Nancy is perhaps one of them??
Interesting.

I've always thought of myself as "fierce" rather than "dangerous". If being dangerous puts me in the same category as: Susan B. Anthony, Molly Brown, Marian Wright Edelman, Betty Friedan, Katharine Graham, Mother Jones, Harriet Beecher Stowe and numerous others, than I consider that an honor.

Not only is Ms. Snyderman's comment mysogynistic, it's also racist because I know plenty of women of color who are also "dangerous" in their ability to think for themselves in regards to the current medical model and how it negatively affects their families.

Women throughout history have been labeled as trouble-makers when they think critically about issues and speak up. Attempting to "blame" uppity women for the public backlash against Pharma, the CDC, the AAP etc. is a classic deflection tactic. When it's being used, you know you're hitting the sweet spot!!

Well Nancy better be pissed off at me. Every morning I get a glass of orange juice and sit at the computer while nursing my infant. (That makes it even worse, huh?) I spend a good hour combing any relevant research, another hour perusing journal articles pertaining to the research and another hour compiling the data.

My word documents are so huge that I have to export them and store them.

I bet she can't stand people like me, who read the ENTIRE study, not just the abstract. Gee, imagine that!

As for my husband, I didn't marry him because he is a push over, but because he is smarter than me. So Nancy can put that in her pipe and smoke it. He survived a vaccine reaction including encephalitis and a 3 month hospital stay in the ICU. He understands the need for actual, scientific research. And guess what? He can read the studies, too!

And as I just said on my facebook page:

"Whenever hubby asks me why I'm trying to be a Clinical Psychologist, MD, JD and get an MPH, I tell him it's so I can tell people to COUNT THE LETTERS AFTER MY NAME and eat it!

:) Have fun handing it to them, fellow overeducated, suspicious mommies!

Guilty. I am an overly educated, overly ambitious, knowledge-seeking advocate and mother for my son and for my ENTIRE circle of family and friends. When anyone in my immediate circle of 1000+ people needs advice on home and environmental toxins, safer toys (preferably NOT made in China), safer vaccination schedule for humans and pets, safe and healthy food choices, and recovery from illness they email and call me. I have two graduate degrees and twenty years in the corporate world, Dr. Nancy, but that is not how I became so knowledgeable. It has been through my own research since my son's diagnosis with autism that has made me a subject matter expert. I live this every day, which is more than you can say.

Guess what Dr. Nancy? We ARE dangerous and we ARE infiltrating ALL walks of life. I have people approaching me DAILY (those who I've never even shared my position on vaccine safety with) who are QUESTIONING the safety of vaccines and OPTING OUT of flu & H1N1 shots, not because I told them but because THEY (like hardened criminals) are secretly accesing the Internet inappropriately in the privacy of their own homes, READING books & magazine articles in their attics, and NOTICING the increase in the reports of vaccine side effects like dystonia, serious illness & seizures, and RECOGNIZING the fact that when they were kids, FLU wasn't such a big deal, kids weren't out of school 2+ wks at a whack and conditions like ADHD, autism, ashtma, allergies, fibromyalgia, MS and epilepsy were rare rather than commonplace. I am SOOOO dangerous that perhaps I just transmit my crazy thoughts telepathically to people in the grocery store, Barnes and Noble, Whole Foods and Starbucks, even out my window and into unsuspecting people's cars sitting in traffic. MAYBE we are so dangerous that we are part of an alien-nation sent here to infiltrate and brainwash all to question the safety of vaccinations that are not subject to double-blind placebo studies.....Or maybe, just maybe the American public is smarter than the CDC & big pharma gives them credit for and they are tired of being lied to, manipulated and having the organic-cotton pulled over their eyes.

I can't help but see a liberal dose of misogyny in all this, especially in light of Desiree Jennings and how the old guard of the medical cartel is collectively denigrating her/ implying "hysterics." This whole ugly side of the push-back from the Nancies and Oracs and their ilk speaks volumes of how culturally backwards many of these medical elites are. It also shows how vehemently they are attached to their position, which is foundering fast thanks to the H1N1 fear-mongering, as demonstrated by what happened to Ms. Jennings and that their only real argument is to write her off as psychosomatic. With absolutely no evidence of that and toeing the line of libel and slander.

It's easy to blame a group like "white college educated moms." It's also revolting to employ a sociological scapegoat tactic like this in the year 2009. As Cindy already mentioned, what about the men and the dads? I can tell you what about them, according to Nancy's insinuations... we're being brainwashed by our wives and led astray, or we're simply being shut out, due largely to the Internet and its pool of "misinformation" and the support system that's arisen to embolden this so-called group of subversive, dangerous women.

What a reeking pile of bullshit.

Nancy is a tool and an idiot. I don't see how any critically thinking mind anchored in common sense would seriously take her medical "advise," or be fooled by this new ploy. It stinks of desperation and exasperation, and, mark my words, it WILL backfire, and it will backfire BIG time.

Don't forget that Nancy said that she herself does not need the H1N1 vaccine. She's not at risk like the rest of us.. No she's too old, or at least that was her argument. She essentially said; I'm not getting it, don't need to, but the rest of you and your kids better or you'll be endangering the rest of us....HUH???

How am I dangerous??...I read pubmed everyday..SHAME..How dare I read the studies for myself???!!

Proud to be dangerous and practice independant thought!

I am dangerous because I AM FEARLESS now. Nothing will stop my family from getting real answers for cause and recovery. I have always been a strong, smart, powerful women. Then I had a child, and forgot that. I gave my power and my mind over to people who told me they knew everything about being a parent and I knew nothing. So, I did what any good girl does, I listened. Well, I know better know. I am taking control and the only ones I have to answer to are my child and my God. Doc, I gave you my trust once, you have failed me. Now you have to earn it.

I just posted a blog about this. Please read.
http://whimseyjenny32.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/im-dangerous/

Don't forget us subversive grandmothers, too....anarchists to the core.

I am dangerous because I have the ability to THINK for myself and not just follow someone else's word (CDC, NIH, AAP) I care what goes into my body, and the body of my child. I am a college-educated thinker. And they should be scared of me because I WON'T ever do what they tell me to do....just because THEY say it's what I should do.

Once upon a time, I DID do what they tell me to do, and now my child has autism.

http://whimseyjenny32.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/the-marathon/

Jack, you'll find that not a single door at a single Children's Hospital will open for you as you approach. And a force field has been fitted over the entire city of Philadelphia to bar your wife's entrance. Sorry, Charlie! LOL!

I've never been considered dangerous before! How fun!! Considering that I'm barely over 5 feet tall and for the most part a non-confrontational person, I've never been called dangerous. I guess I am, though. Just last week I talked the deacon of our church out of vaccinating his future newborn with Hep B (the look on his face when I told him newborns are vaccinated against a sexually transmitted disease was priceless - the outrage!). I just ran into his wife, who informed me they have decided to go with the 1986 schedule - thanks Generation Rescue! The same day brought a discussion with a speech therapist for our school district that had her looking at biomed in a whole new way (she was having trouble reconciling the little boy she saw in front of her with his diagnosis and evaluations). Not 10 minutes later my son's PT told me her dad was just diagnosed with Alzheimers. This, of course, led to a discussion of heavy metal toxicity, aluminum in particular. She had loads of smart, educated questions (she is an educated white woman - watch out!) and is now on the warpath against Alzheimer's. This was all before lunch. My "misinformation" seems to be striking a chord with the masses. Hopefully, in the next few years, the majority of parents will be as misinformed as I am. Utopia!!

WHEW,they missed me again. Keep it up nancy you are only helping the cause.Dave

Dear God,

You forgot to tell everyone about the White Males. Dr. John Poling:

* Johns Hopkins University, Department of Neurology/Neurosurgery, Neurology Resident 2001
* INOVA Fairfax Hospital/Georgetown Hospital, Transitional Intern 1998
* Georgetown University School of Medicine, Washington, DC - M.D./Ph.D. 1997
* Woods Hole Marine Biological Laboratory, Woods Hole - MA, Neurobiology Course Summer 1995
* Boston University, Boston, MA - B.A. with Honors, Biology 1991 (cum undergrad GPA- 3.90) 1991

Should I keep going????

"women" typo

Great article. I love being part of this radical group of womem (lol), who are educated, read and can think for ourselves.
Get used to it Nancy, we ain't going away, in fact, we are growing in leaps and bounds. We might move a step forward, two back, three forward...but we are moving forward!

8 years Catholic school.
4 years prep/boarding school (and not the reform school kind...)
Tufts University - Dr. Offit's Alma Mater
Boston College
Ad agency exec at 21
Ad manager for major software company at 25
Top sales person by 30
Autism Mom by 32
Advocate since 1999

I'm thinking of starting a local support group for us men that are in love with these "dangerous" women. You'd be surprised how many men like me there are out there and all of us are married to women that fit inside this pie chart, convinced something has injured their child, refusing to budge an inch, selfishly demanding explanations and accountability, yet when I look at my wife I don't see some threat to national security or a conspiring Jezebel I see a mother, a lover, a partner, a hero.... silly ain't it.

If loving you is wrong...
I don't want to be right
If being right means living without you
I'd rather live wrong than right

Lord help me Jesus, I can't help myself!