I am so sorry Craig!
I am sorry for the frustration of having such a horror story and a liar half telling it, and then only to benefit her faith.

I am also sorry that your son received both the MMR and the DTaP in one day!?? Is this a normal thing they do now a days? Why did they do that??? WHY???

Of all the fuss we did 20 years ago it was like we were just spitting in the wind.

Just another layer of damn frustration on top of another layer of frustration. I have never seen such a situation as the one with vaccines.

I find myself hoping (never wanted a child hurt) but the people that could make it stop needs to feel a little of the hurt along with us lower bottom feeders.

Craig

Pitiful behaviour, and profoundly silly.

John

Oh, I'm now officially annoyed at Ms. Wallace. I don't mind her using my email in her story, but using it in such an out-of-context way that clearly demonstrates her bias is unforgivable. On her blog, she lists some of the reactions she received. Here is a sample:

"From a father who disliked the story, a wrenching illustration of why it’s so vital that research dollars not be wasted. People need help:

“My son was born in 2001. He was diagnosed with Autistic Disorder at 26 months. He is 8 years old now and still in diapers. We have to lock the doors, and I have to sleep in front of the front door in case he gets up and tries to leave (he loves to wander). His rages are sometimes so violent that we have to force his sisters to leave the room in case he tries to attack them.
He can, in the throes of his anger, lift his 6′4″, 230 lb father off of the floor,”

says this dad, who is sure that the MMR and DTap vaccines caused his son’s suffering.

“There is no other explanation.”

Until there IS another explanation, vaccines will b falsely vilified."

Not falsely vilified!! Not falsely vilified!!! Did you write in there WHY it said there was no explanation, Ms. Wallace? Good thing I save my emails. Here is the complete and unbutchered version of the email I sent her.

"It took me a while to formulate this email because I don't want to come across as hostile. To say that I am disappointed in your article is a bit of an understatement, but I'm willing to engage you diplomatically in the hopes that you will understand where many parents like myself are coming from.

The reason why there is so much anger from parents who share my views is that we are tired of being ignored. Vaccine injuries do happen, and quite probably much more often than the CDC and Offit admit. Only 10% of all doctors report to VAERS, and most of the CDC's prevalence data about how often reactions occur are gleaned from VAERS. Scientists like Offit and many others like to paint parents like me as desperate. I've been called ignorant, stupid, liar, and all manner of horrible names because of my views. I'm a long way from being an idiot. But more of that later, because it ties into a later point.

Here's my story. My son was born in 2001. By the time he was 18 months old, he was bright, happy, funny. He could walk, spoke about 30 words, and was exceeding all developmental milestones. His final words to me were, "Go Bye Bye!" on the day of his 18 month checkup. That day, he received the MMR and DTaP vaccines. That night, he began running a very high fever, was screaming these horrible, agonizing screams that raised the hair on my neck, arched his back and was completely unconsolable. My wife and I called his pediatrician, who proceeded to tell us that my son's reaction was "perfectly normal." Really?!?! Perfectly normal MY ASS!!! We brought him to the ER soon after. They performed numerous tests and, after doing a CT scan of my son's head, they were able to determine that he had neuroinflamation, or an encepalopathy.

The next day, he was listless. He hasn't spoken but maybe 5 words since. He lost the ability to walk until he was almost 3 years old. He was diagnosed with Autistic Disorder at 26 months. He is 8 years old now and still in diapers. We have to lock the doors, and I have to sleep in front of the front door in case he gets up and tries to leave (he loves to wander). His rages are sometimes so violent that we have to force his sisters to leave the room in case he tries to attack them. His rages can be so violent that he can, in the throes of his anger, lift his 6'4", 230 lb father off of the floor. This is what parents like me have to deal with EVERY DAY!! This is what our life is like. There is no other explaination for his brain damage. But, doctors and Offit and, apparently, journalists like you, try to pawn it off as coincidence. They say that I confuse correlation with causation. Coincidence can't happen so often. So many parents cannot be wrong about seeing their children spiral into illness and neurological dysfunction so soon after a vaccine. But, to Offit and others, the only way they would say that it is a causal factor is if it were to happen when the needle was still in the arm of the child.

The reason I am disappointed in your article is that you spoke with so-called "experts" concerning this condition without looking at their background. Offit is biased; he was reprimanded by congress for his conflicts of interest in vaccine policy making. Here is someone who says that a newborn baby can handle 100,000 vaccines at once. The scientists you spoke to are biased. To them, my son does not exist. To them, children like Hannah Poling and Bailey Banks (2 children who were awarded by the government for iatrogenic autism) do not exist. How can anyone trust them at face value? These are people who's livelihoods rest on the success of the vaccination program. That is known as a Conflict of Interest. A truly objective journalist would have done what they could to address all sides of the problem and investigate who they were talking to.

Now, on to the threats. Everyone, on all sides of the issue, have received threats. I've had CPS called on me, because, apparently, I haven't vaccinated my children. Someone called the school that my youngest daughter goes to and asked them to investigate her vaccine status. Out of 400 children, only she was singled out because she had not received the MMR (I didn't feel it was necessary...she got both measles and the mumps as a baby, and I had her vaccinated for rubella). Painting Offit as a saint for speaking out against us dangerous and unhinged parents is a bit hypocritical considering that he and people like him do the same thing to people like us.

Please don't take it that I am angry at you; I'm not. I'm angry at the situation. I'm angry that doctors, instead of listening to their patients and asking, "what can I do to help?" paint parents with vaccine injured children as crazy, dangerous, ignorant and desperate sociopaths who are endangering everyone else around them. I have vaccinated my children. I encourage others to vaccinate. But when I question vaccine safety, or rather the lack thereof, I'm called "anti-vax" by people like you.

Tell me, how am I anti-vaccine? How am I endangering other people by encouraging them to read up on vaccine injuries. How am I endangering them by giving them as much information as possible in the hopes that their children will not have the same reaction as my son?

The true dangers to society are the individuals who put profit above the health and well-being of those they are sworn to help. All you have to do is look at the track record of companies like Merck, GSK, Bayer, or any of the Pharmaceutical companies, to see that my statement is true. My hope is that you further investigate, go further down the rabbit-hole, and see what you find.

Please be a responsible journalist.

Sincerely,
Craig Willoughby"

This woman is obviously biased. She doesn't want to post the portion that explains WHY I'm sure that the vaccine caused my son's brain damage and the evidence behind it. Why? Because it doesn't support her nice, safe little myopic world. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but her article is shoddy journalism at its worst.

Brian, you're neglecting to connect the dots of media. If your Grandma wants to read a romantic story, she picks up a Harlequin Romance, not Penthouse, right? Both contain steamy scenes but you could hardly compare the two. Age of Autism has a target audience and an editorial direction. JB wrote a perfect piece for us designed to make people think and understand the issues we parents of vaccine injured children face.

Thanks for your comments.

Kim

Another excellent piece by J.B., please keep them coming.

I find it amazing that Tim and Brian find fault with J.B's critique of what is clearly a completely devoid of substance hit piece that completely miss characterizes the entire vaccine safety issue but do not seem to have any problem with the idiotic hit piece itself-and all the while admitting they are not up to speed on the issue! Amazing!

In regards to Tim C's comment, I find it a little unnerving that he has been hit with so much criticism. He clearly stated that he lacks the required knowledge to make an informed decision, and he was only commenting on the writing style. He specifically said, and I quote, "Now I need to do more reading/studying/thinking about this issue".

I side with him for the simple reason that the writing and website style do not portray a writer who has enough adequate knowledge to be able to write an unbiased view on this subject. Before I get bashed for this, let me make it perfectly clear that I am not suggesting in any way that the author does not have the requisite knowledge for this; I am merely stating, like Tim C, that the writing style lacks professionalism. Unfortunately for the author, this takes away from what credibility this author has. Had the article been written more professionally and with a calmer tone (although I sympathize with why the author lacks one), I firmly believe that it would be paid more attention to.

From the way I understand Tim C's comment, he is merely suggesting that this article might receive more attention had it been written in a more professional matter. Unfortunately, the author does not help by telling Tim to "Put [it] in your sociological pipe and smoke it": hardly an unbiased way of putting it.

Like Tim, I also lack knowledge on this subject, and I also plan on doing some research on it now. I believe, however, that just because a medical professional is questioning current research does not necessarily mean that he is "against" anybody. Debate by professionals in the field is essential to ensuring that the correct knowledge is procured, and it should not be dismissed until proper evidence is given. If both sides have evidence supporting conflicting results, then there is cause for more research in that particular area. To put things in a relative perspective, I have a chronic disease that afflicts me every day. When two doctors who practice the focus of my disease have conflicting views and are willing to support their claims, I welcome it, for the simple reason that, if both sides are being rational, the correct results will come out on top, which means that they might come closer to finding a cure for me.

Just some food for thought.

I just got an email from Wired, apparently she has been tweeting the responses as well.

Hello,

Your letter to Amy Wallace was forwarded to Wired's Rants department. We'd like to consider your letter for publication, but in order to do so, we need your full name, day time phone number (for verification purposes only), and the city and state, province, or country where you live.

Please send that information to .

Thanks again,
Wired's Rants Department

Did anyone notice on the Wired cover there is a tiny little line in the lower righthand corner next to the issue date that reads "Take Your Medicine."

I think it is highly weird - almost like a command re: vaccines.

At any rate, it was some really irresponsible reporting by the author, Amy Wallace. A hit piece, really.

Your writing style is completely disrespectful and unprofessional. It seems like you'd want to add some creedence to your ideas by refuting the arguement rather than attack the author. Obviously, since you have no evidence to successfully defend your stance you have little other choice than to call her an idiot. The minimal evidence provided doesn't actually speak directly to your any of the points you hope to support. Too bad your side of the "debate" doesn't have someone who can construct a successful arguement.

Tim- Suggested reading would be the Simpsonwood meeting and the fourteen studies. The government knows there is a problem and they want it covered up. We didn't have all of these problems until the government started insuring the vaccine industry.

Tim C: There's a big difference between being a vaccine safety advocate and and being anti-vaccine.

If more journalists in the mainstream media would stop taking CDC bullet points at face value, fewer children would be injured by vaccines. And fewer parents would be sounding off here at Age of Autism.

Check out this vaccine safety investigation by The Atlantic magazine.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1#

If your tighty-whities tear after only a few wearings and you complain to the manufacturer, does that make you anti-underwear? I think not.

I wonder if I am paying Tim's salary thur my taxes?
Probably!

Tim C.,
What gives you the impression that anyone "here" is a religious fanatic? I'm just wondering, as I've never gotten that impression.

I think reality is where most of this group is grounded.

:) Tim C cracks me up!

I guess Tim doesn't know that we're the ones with the children that got blindsided by someone swinging a 2X4 putting a big dent in the side of these sweet innocent babies heads. One out of every 100 or so of them out there all stunned by that assault, us trying to explain to the cops that someone almost killed our kid and no one believing us. In every single neighborhood in the Country someone is getting away with wacking away at our babies' heads, ruining a majority of them and we aren't supposed to get a little angry when someone says we are full of crap or want to make money or want (and this one really pisses me of) free services for our kids. We were there Tim, we know what happened, we are the witnesses never called to testify, please excuse us for being a tad emotional about our victimized kids.

Now Wired is trying to convince readers that they really, really DID do some research for this story. And by golly, ended up with the thickest folder ever!

How insulting, given that so many parents of children with vaccine-induced autism roll luggage carts full of information to meetings, or have file cabinets stuffed with medical studies and government reports.

I wonder how much information they uncovered using the Freedom Of Information Act....

Jessica, I received exactly the same response from Amy Wallace.

My response from Ms. Wallace was a tad different. How nice.

Dear Jessica,
Thank you for taking the time to write to me. I do appreciate the feedback and take it seriously.

Best,
Amy Wallace

She takes me seriously. Right. Maybe I should have used more curse words.

If you take 500,000 children and add about seven zeros to that number, you begin to see what is at stake for big pharma, the AAP & the CDC.

The Autism community IS making a difference with the present "Y2Flu program" and many children will be saved from harm from the 2009 CDC/vaccine industry.

Some will not however, but the s... will hit the fan on that problem when the time comes.

Just got an email back from Ms Wallace thanking me for taking the time to write. She says she appreciates the feedback and does take it seriously. **Ok, now write a fair and balanced report.**

Thank you JB for telling the truth!

My question is do people like Wallace believe the sh@t they write or is the check from Pharma too big to deny and they simply don't care? Because SURELY anyone with two brain cells to rub together would see how one sided this article is. But people are so "processed" to believe government, believe the AAP, believe whatever Katie Couric tells you to do - I often tell my friends "It isn't until you get burned by Pharma that you wake up."

I was a good little citizen and got my Hep B shots and BAM - my life forever changed. Thank GOD it did though because it brought me to find the autism community who in turn is the reason my daughter is the healthy little girl she is today.
I guess more people need to get burned by Pharma before they WAKE UP.

Hello
I have checked that cover story and you are right that its really unbelievable..I like that you have shared those comments.Thank you very much for sharing this with us.

Bob Moffit asked, "If Dr. Offit does not believe these threats are credible...why does he ALWAYS speak of them?"

I have found the same lead in to some profluoridation stories where a fluoridation referendum or controversy is playing out. The profluoridation newspapers will mention that a dead rat was found in the mail box of a profluoridation zealot. (It "may" have happened in Bellingham, Washington) They do this when they anticipate getting clobbered by an "educated" constituency who soundly defeat adding industrial waste to the drinking water.

It boils down to a loss of credibility and now they need sympathy or their mama's shoulder to cry on.

Thanks JB. Keep on writing. It's one of the few places where the truth is printed, respected, and appreciated. Besides, you are really good.

JB - thank you for this. Someone we know in common recently said those on the AoA side of the vaccine issue are just reading "the Internet," which I find to be the most condescending statement of our time (as if we are reading those sites with the interlocking teddy bear backgrounds or as if we are unable to verify facts from multiple reliable sources).

This person then sent me the Wired article which was found ... on the Internet.

I was more than pleased to send this person your excellent tear-down of the Wired article.

Did you do that with your non-dominant hand while blindfolded?

I got far enough into Offit's Autism's False Prophets book to see him quote an Eli Lilly study (1929) that said an adult male could take up to 2,000,000 micrograms of thimerosal. It is on page 63. After that, I could not read any more.
I have always found it interesting that with the "proof" being entirely statistical no medical journal has ever published the autism rate among the unvaccinated population. All of the proofs that there is no connection between autism and vaccination neglected to include a measure of the control group, the population that has never been vaccinated. I am in awe. The need for no connection is so powerful that the scientists convinced themselves without looking at the control group statistics.

This makes no sense: The article says, "In certain parts of the US, vaccination rates have dropped so low that occurrences of some children’s diseases are approaching pre-vaccine levels for the first time ever." She goes on to say that in states w. philosophical exemptions, 2.6 percent of parents opted out, up from 1 percent in 1991, according to the CDC, and that in some communities, non-vaccination rates are approaching 6 percent.

Before vaccines, everyone came down with measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox etc. If vaccines work, how could 1% to 6% opt-out rates result in pre-vaccine numbers of people getting these illnesses?

From Wired: "... the number of reported pertussis cases jumped from 1,000 in 1976 to 26,000 in 2004."

Trying to blame any occurrence of disease on the un-vaccinated is yet another disconnect. While the cases climbed, rates of vaccination have steadily increased over four decades to the point of reaching 99% coverage. With that much participation, the way I see it, the vaccine didn't work, if you are willing to admit to 26,000 cases in 2004. (On a graph, shouldn't those lines intersect, rather than be parallel? I'm just an "educated parent" so maybe I don't know anything.)

From Wired: "In states where such opting out is allowed, 2.6 percent of parents did so last year, up from 1 percent in 1991, according to the CDC."

So the percent of parents opting out of vaccination has almost tripled in less than 20 years? It took 17 years for the un-vaccinators to gain just 1.6%? What are you worried about? Geez.

Parents are told that the second we stop vaccinating, cases will just go through the roof. Where are the horrible epidemics? Too bad they can't blame all those "highly educated" un-vaccinator-parents for the swine flu because it is so new. But give them time.

Cynthia Cournoyer
www.whataboutimmunizations.com

Kathy Lee G was saying she was going to get one shot in each arm... It is great to spread out the mercury by a few extra feet when you can...

I would guess they will very soon spin a somewhat famous toddler than will make the news.

Wired seems to need ad revenue. What better way then to court big Pharma! Although profits are down a bit they are still the strongest growth businesses out there (especially when you compare to the other Fortune 500's.)

Strainge isn't it that they had layoffs right after this issue hit the press...

J.B. about your comment of "growing weary", please don't. You are insprirational to us all and your willingness to take on these liars is changing the world. Many, many children have been saved from what your son and my grandson have gone through. Don't for a minute think that your words are not reaching and changing minds, because they are. You know why? Because you and the Age of Autism are telling the truth and it is hard for liars to keep up with the truth.
Believe me your efforts are working just keep it up and don't grow weary. Instead rejoice in all of those you have saved and will save from this illness of autism

There was one thing in this particularly uniformed article that was worth noting.

The opening paragraphs described the frightening threats Dr. Offit has received:

"To hear his enemies talk, you might think Paul Offit is the most hated man in America...Thousands of people revile Offit publicly at rallies, on Web sites, and in books.....Then there are the threats. Offit once got an email from a Seattle man that read, “I will hang you by your neck until you are dead!” Other bracing messages include “You have blood on your hands” and “Your day of reckoning will come.” A few years ago, a man on the phone ominously told Offit he knew where the doctor’s two children went to school...whenever Offit gets a letter with an unfamiliar return address, he holds the envelope at arm’s length before gingerly tearing it open. “I think about it,” he admits. “Anthrax.”

The author waits SEVEN pages before asking Dr. Offit if he is afraid of those who wish him harm. He responded:

“I’m not that brave,” he says. “If I really thought my life was at risk or my children’s lives were at risk, I wouldn’t do it. Not for a second.”

If Dr. Offit does not believe these threats are credible...why does he ALWAYS speak of them?

Holy shit, people read WIRED magazine?

This whole entire article was simply written as a way to get people to care about WIRED. Um, hello - anyone remember another third-rate, crappy mag called "Cookie" with Amanda Peet calling us parasites? Yeah, they're bankrupt now.

The vaccine-autism "debate" is just a way to drum up readership/interest in the magazine. That's why the ignorant and poorly informed Ms. Wallace couldn't care less if she is factually accurate. Fact is you're talking now about WIRED, which most people besides me and a few other geeks have never even heard of.

Why is it, when it comes to vaccines and drugs, Americans are SO willing to ignore the blatant conflict of interests inherent in the whole system?

That question has perplexed me lately - Americans can be quite cynical and conversely innovative in other areas of life. I.e., we can do it "bigger" and/or "better."

Therein, though, lies the problem to some extent (what a surprise - our arrogance is our downfall). Nobody wants to look like they're turning their back on "science." That's something that was done in the Middle Ages - no "smart" people do that. But what happens when the "science" is the most favorable result money can buy?

The good news, despite these frustrating blips on the radar - is that more people are indeed questioning what we are told by big pharma and their shills. I see it in my everyday life and it heartens me for the difficulties ahead. I don't expect pharma to go down without a fight - there's way too much money involved.

Thanks, JB, for taking the time to write this response. As the mother of a child suffering a devastating brain injury from the whole cell pertusis vaccine I was offended in a million different ways by this article. There is simply no forum whatsoever that should allow any writer to be so dismissive and insulting of vaccine injured children and their families. I assume Amy Wallace is young and childless...that's the best I can give her. Perhaps someday she will regret writing this judgemental, inaccurate, and inflammatory piece of trash.

Oooh, it just keeps getting worse.

Check out these pages on the WIRED website

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience_misinformants

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience_reading

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/10/vaccine-risk-put-in-perspective/

J.B., to be clear, I mean this in the best possible way. This is a waste of your time and talent. Getting upset over an article in WIRED magazine about vaccines and autism is like getting pissed off at your plumber when he gives you a bad stock tip.

Morons will be morons. In this case, after reading the other drivel at Wired on this subject, shills will be shills. The more we take them to task on their writing, the more relevant their writing becomes. Watch out for that double-edged sword.

thanks for the link, J.B. I gave her a piece of my mind. Mentioned the ESL kids, too. It may be useful for her to know that not only parents of children with autism are concerned about this important issue. Some of us just actually see what's happening and are frustrated/outraged. Thank God, now in Calgary, we have some journalists who are actually doing some real research on the issue and writing some good articles.

I read this and all I can think of is the Merck memo calling a jihad out for all disinters of Vioxx, "destroy them where they live"

Vioxx revenue hit $2.5 billion in 2003, and was one of Merck's biggest drugs. The six month period ending in June of 2009 Merck took in a billion dollars in vaccine revenues. http://biz.yahoo.com/e/090803/mrk10-q.html This means the vaccine business for Merck alone, is a 2 billion dollar a year business.

Merck's advertising budget is roughly 1 billion dollars. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-122879099.html Magazines: $125.4 million, Newspaper: $13.6 million, TV: $212.2 million and Internet: $24.5 million. http://www.fiercepharma.com/special-reports/merck-top-13-advertising-budgets

Exactly how much money is there to destroy those who threaten those billions in revenue? How much would it take to have an article such as the one in Wired published? A million? Remember the game we all played when we were kids, what would you do for a million dollars? Would you kill someone? Obviously some people kill for the thrill but most of us drew the line at murder, but I remember a friend of mine said he'd do it if he wasn't going to get caught. He could live with himself as long as no one knew about it.

A million dollars.

"The magazine has lost 50 percent of its ad pages so far this year, ranking among the worst off of the more than 150 monthly magazines measured by Media Industry Newsletter. Only Portfolio, which Condé Nast shut down last month, and Power and Motoryacht fared worse.

That leaves Mr. Anderson, who makes his living promoting big ideas, trying to come up with one big enough to reinvigorate Wired’s business." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/18/business/media/18wired.html?pagewanted=all

Howard Mittman, Wired’s publisher said that he thought that the March issue, with just 38 advertising pages, was the bottom. He was adding new advertisers in liquor and home furnishings to make up for the pullback in business advertisers, he said. Asked how he would make up the remainder, Mr. Mittman smiled. “I dunno. I mean, pray?” he said.

Remember the Australasian Journal of Bone and Joint Medicine, which was published by Exerpta Medica, a division of scientific publishing juggernaut Elsevier? Remember how it touted Vioxx and Fosamax? Remember Elsevier acknowledged that Merck had sponsored (paid for) the publication, but did not disclose the amount the drug company paid. In a statement emailed to The Scientist, Elsevier said that the company "does not today consider a compilation of reprinted articles a 'Journal'."

"A million dollars, as long as I don't get caught."

The vaccine debate won't go away. H1N1 has brought it to the general public (almost). Debates sell magazines.
Another group profiting from autism and they don't give a shit to do any real reporting.
This 'reporter' is as culpable as any doctor not doing their research. People will drink the Kool Aid that she is passing to them... 1 in 51 coming soon!

When did Wired become The Onion?

Wow! You think I wouldn't be shocked anymore... I know this is exhausting for you J.B., but please know it is a huge relief knowing you are there!! Thanks for your time in this... as far as Wired magazine...WTF?!
They will be hearing from me.

This piece sounds like a PR piece to sell Offit's book. Was that mentioned in there? I couldn't read through to the end.

I also have written a rebuttal, (since this bimbo, wannabe reporter actually had me in the story. It can be found at my website: www.autismtodayonline.com J.B. thank you for everything you do! It's really time to stop being nice to these buttholes. The post that Wallace talks about in the article was made at this site...so I hope you'll still let me post!

When I picked up my copy of Wired magazine, my first thought was WTF? Why is Paul Offit in here??????????????? I wonder, did he think getting published in this magazine he'd get to those well educated, wealthy crazed internet parents in a publication they may read ... this is so laughable. Thank you for taking the time to write this post ... it is getting tiresome having to read the same crap over and over ...

JB,
Very much enjoyed reading your post. You are correct that Paul is just a sideshow that further deteriorates the credibility of the public health folks at CDC and NIH. Very good point. In fact, any rational person would see that by not shutting Paul up, they implicitly endorse him.

Oh, good Lord. I can't take these articles any more. The only thing that makes them bearable is the thought that JB Handley will be writing a rebuttal. Thanks again, JB.

I also fail to understand why no one outside the autism community thinks it's weird that Offit gets interviewed again and again about autism. He's not an autism expert! He doesn't study or treat autism! In her rush to talk about how autism is made-up, really regular-old mental retardation, and probably genetic, Amy Wallace didn't bother to talk to anyone who actually studies, say, the effect of mercury on children. She could even have picked Pichichero, if she wanted a pro-vaccine person ... it boggles the mind, how lazy and stupid a "journalist" can be.