Hepatitis B Vaccine: An Unmitigated Disaster
As most readers of AoA know, the Hep B vaccine was added to the CDC’s childhood immunization schedule in the early 1990s, requires four doses before a child is eighteen months old, and is the only vaccine on the CDC’s schedule that is recommended to be given on an infant’s first day of life.
What else do we know about this vaccine? Quite a bit, actually. In no particular order:
1) A recent study published in the journal Neurotoxicology called “Delayed Acquisition of Neonatal Reflexes in Newborn Primates Receiving a Thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B Vaccine: Influence of Gestational Age and Birth Weight” found that monkeys who received a Hepatitis B vaccine on the first day of life experienced a significant delay in survival reflexes versus monkeys who received a placebo.
2) A recent study published in the journal the Annals of Epidemiology titled “Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism” found that “Boys who received the hepatitis B vaccine during the first month of life had 2.94 greater odds for ASD [autism] compared to later- or unvaccinated boys.”
3) A recent study published in the journal Neurology called “Hepatitis B vaccine and the risk of CNS inflammatory demyelination in childhood” found that the Engerix B vaccine for Hep B (the one my son received) appears to increase the risk of central nervous system inflammatory demyelination.
5) In 2002, the Institute of Medicine (which I personally believe is a corrupt agent of the vaccine industry but many believe is the final word on medical issues) published a study titled, “Immunization Safety Review: Hepatitis B Vaccine and Demyelinating Neurological Disorders” in which they reached the following non-conclusion: “Additionally, the committee found that the epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between the hepatitis B vaccine in adults and multiple sclerosis. However, the evidence was inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between the hepatitis B vaccine and all other demyelinating conditions.” (Author’s note: If you’re a vaccine, and you can’t get an “all clear” from the vaccine-loving IOM, you’re in big trouble.”)
6) Generation Rescue analyzed the vaccine schedules of 30 first-world countries. 60%, or 18 countries, have Hep B vaccine on their schedule. That means 12 countries, or 40% of the countries, DO NOT require the Hep B vaccine, despite the fact that it has been readily available for 19 years. Of countries that do require Hep B vaccine, we could only find a few Eastern European countries like Bulgaria and Latvia who also give the shot to babies on the first day of life. Many other countries appear to pursue a more balanced approach to Hep B vaccine, here are some direct quotes from country vaccination schedules.
- Italy: “Hepatitis B vaccine is administered at birth only to children born to HBsAg + mothers. Otherwise immunisation starts at 3 months of age.”
- Finland: “Hepatitis B vaccine is given only to infants of HbsAg
carrier mothers or fathers at the age of 0, 1, 2 and 12 months.”
- Denmark: “Vaccination against hepatitis B is recommended to children of HBsAg-positive mothers starting at birth with both hepatitis B immunoglobulin and one dose of HepB.”
- Norway: “HepB is recommended for risk groups only.”
- Sweden: “HepB is only recommended to children considered high-risk groups. Vaccination is given at birth to infants of mothers positive for hepatitis B.”
- The Netherlands: “Only for children born to HBsAg positive mothers.”
The Hepatitis B vaccine addition to the U.S. vaccination schedule for children is a wildly destructive disaster for seemingly little benefit to public health. The science proving what a disaster it is will keep coming.
I’d like to wrap this piece up with two remarkable statements from a very courageous father, Michael Belkin, who lost his infant daughter to a Hepatitis B vaccine. And, it’s not only this dad’s command of the facts that makes his statements remarkable, it’s also because these statements were delivered in public, to both the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, the very group that added Hep B to our schedule, and the U.S. Congress, TEN YEARS AGO:
Statement #1:
TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL BELKIN BEFORE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON IMMUNIZATION PRACTICES -- CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION (February 17, 1999) -- Atlanta Georgia
My name is Michael Belkin. I am a father, businessman, former quantitative strategist at Salomon Brothers, and Director of the Hepatitis B Vaccine Project of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC).
The NVIC has studied Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data obtained under the Freedom of Information Act covering the last nine years on hepatitis B vaccine adverse events -- and in 1996 there were more than three times as many reported serious adverse reactions as reported cases of the disease in the 0 to 14 age group. Of the total 2,424 adverse event reports made between 1990 and October 1998 in children under age 14 who only received hepatitis B vaccine, there were 1,209 serious events and 73 deaths. Thus, one half of the reports for children under age 14 who received only hepatitis B vaccine were for serious events that required an emergency room visit, hospitalization, or caused life-threatening health problems or permanent disabilities.
As a UC Berkeley graduate and advisor to some of the largest financial institutions in the world, I am qualified to analyze and make conclusions about statistics. Based on that experience, I am astonished that the scientists on this Committee would disregard or cover up data showing the number and severity of adverse reactions to this vaccine. Science is observing and learning from what is observed. The assertions of the CDC that the many reported adverse reactions to this vaccine do not exist or are a coincidence violates the basic principle of science, which is rooted in the observation and analysis of data.
A benefit/risk analysis of the hepatitis B vaccine for the average infant in America, not born to infected parents, must conclude that the VAERS data on adverse reactions shows the real-world risk of a newborn infant dying or being injured by the hepatitis B vaccine is a greater threat than the remote chance of contracting the primarily blood-transmitted disease.
My 5-week old daughter, Lyla Rose, died within 16 hours of her hepatitisB vaccination, which she received because of the universal vaccination policy this Committee instituted in 1991. At her death, Lyla had four of the eight highest-reported symptoms in the VAERS hepatitis B vaccine adverse reaction data. The NY Medical Examiner observed brain swelling at the autopsy but refused to record that or mention the hepatitis B vaccine Lyla received in the autopsy report.
I hold each one of you who participated in the promulgation or perpetuation of that mandated newborn vaccination policy personally responsible for my daughter's death and the deaths and injuries of all the other beautiful, healthy infants who are victims of the hepatitis B vaccine. Your negligence is the proximate cause of my daughter's death and you have failed to exercise reasonable care.
At the NVIC, we are overwhelmed following up constant new reports of deaths, seizures and autoimmune reactions following hepatitis B vaccination. Because the CDC refuses to acknowledge this large number of serious adverse reactions, hospitals and doctors who have been misled about the risks continue to administer the vaccine and then deny any vaccine connection when children die, get ill or have seizures within hours or days. CDC officials tell parents they have never heard of hepatitis B vaccine reactions.
That is a lie. For this government to continue to insist that hepatitis B vaccine adverse reaction reports do not exist is negligent, unethical -- and is a crime against the children of America.
It is a sad day for the U.S. when the nation's children need protection from the official medical authorities who are charged with protecting them from disease.
Thank you.
Statement #2:
MICHAEL BELKIN TESTIMONY TO U.S. CONGRESS (Tuesday May 18, 1999)
My daughter Lyla Rose Belkin died on September 16, 1998 at the age of five weeks, about 15 hours after receiving her second Hepatitis B vaccine booster shot. Lyla was a lively, alert five-week-old baby when I last held her in my arms. Little did I imagine as she gazed intently into my eyes with all the innocence and wonder of a newborn child that she would die that night. She was never ill before receiving the Hepatitis B shot that afternoon. At her final feeding that night, she was extremely agitated, noisy and feisty -- and then she fell asleep suddenly and stopped breathing. The autopsy ruled out choking. The NY Medical Examiner ruled her death Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
But the NY Medical Examiner (Dr. Persechino) neglected to mention Lyla's swollen brain or the hepatitis B vaccine in the autopsy report. The coroner spoke to my wife and I and our pediatrician (Dr. Zullo) the day of the autopsy and clearly stated that her brain was swollen. The pediatrician Dr. Zullo's notes of that conversation are "brain swollen ... not sure cause yet ... could not see how recombinant vaccine could cause problem."
SIDS is a diagnosis of exclusion ..it wasn't this, it wasn't that, everything has been ruled out and we don't know what it was. A swollen brain is not SIDS. Through conversations with other experienced pathologists, I subsequently discovered that brain inflammation is a classic adverse reaction to vaccination (with any vaccine) in the medical literature.
I set out to do an investigation of the Hepatitis B vaccine and attended a workshop at the National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine on "Neo-Natal Death and the Hepatitis B Vaccine," the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) February meeting, and a debate in New Hampshire between the Chairman of the ACIP, Dr. Modlin, and Dr. Waisbren about the safety of the Hepatitis B vaccine. I also obtained the entire Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) database on Hepatitis B vaccine adverse reactions and have investigated it thoroughly.
These are my conclusions, supported by the following pages of text and analysis that are too lengthy to present in entirety in the time allotted for this appearance. Please read the results of my investigation, as it will help you understand the magnitude of the hepatitis B vaccine issue.
* Newborn babies are not at risk of contracting the hepatitis B disease unless their mother is infected.
* Hepatitis B is primarily a disease of junkies, gays, and promiscuous heterosexuals.
* The vaccine is given to babies because health authorities couldn't get those risk groups to take the vaccine.
* Adverse reactions out-number cases of the disease in government statistics.
* Nothing is being done to investigate those adverse reactions.
* Those adverse reactions include numerous deaths, convulsions and arthritic conditions that occur within days after
* The CDC is misrepresenting hypothetical, estimated disease statistics as real cases of the disease.
* The ACIP is recommending new vaccines for premature infants without having scientific studies proving they are safe.
* The U.S. vaccine recommendation process is hopelessly compromised by conflicts of interest with vaccine manufacturers, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC.
Conclusion: If (as with the recently-recommended rotavirus vaccine) Hepatitis B vaccine was recommended in 1991 without scientific proof that it was safe in a broad sample of racially and genetically diverse babies less than 48 hours old before they established that recommendation, then the CDC has been experimenting on babies like guinea pigs and this Committee should suspend that universal immunization policy.
The Hepatitis B vaccine was effectively mandated in 1991 for universal immunization of newborn babies by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) -- an adjunct of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Paradoxically, the CDC's own Fact Sheet on the Hepatitis B disease does not include newborn babies as a risk group for that disease. That Fact Sheet lists the risk groups as injection drug users, homosexual men, sexually active heterosexuals, infants/children of immigrants from disease-endemic areas, low socio-economic level, sexual/household contacts of infected persons, infants born to infected mothers, health care workers and hemodialysis patients NOT NEWBORN BABIES.
Question: Why then, did the ACIP establish a policy mandating that newborn babies not at risk of the disease be automatically administered the 3-shot Hepatitis B vaccine as their first involuntary indoctrination into the pediatric care of America?
Answer: Here is that rationale from the original ACIP 1991 statement establishing the official vaccination policy "Hepatitis B Virus: A Comprehensive Strategy for Eliminating Transmission in the United States Through Universal Childhood Vaccination ..." "In the United States, most infections occur among adults and adolescents ... The recommended strategy for preventing these infections has been the selective vaccination of persons with identified risk factors ... However, this strategy has not lowered the incidence of Hepatitis B, primarily because vaccinating persons engaged in high-risk behaviors, life-styles, or occupations before they become infected generally has not been feasible ... Efforts to vaccinate persons in the major risk groups have had limited success. For example, programs directed at injecting drug users failed to motivate them to receive three doses of vaccine ... In the United States it has become evident that HBV transmission cannot be prevented through vaccinating only the groups at high risk of infection ... In the long term, universal infant vaccination would eliminate the need for vaccinating adolescents and high-risk adults ... Hepatitis B vaccination is recommended for all infants, regardless of the HBsAg status of the mother ... The first dose can be administered during the newborn period, preferably before the infant is discharged from the hospital, but no later than when the infant is 2 months of age ..." (emphasis added).
So in the CDC and ACIP's own words, almost every newborn U.S. baby is now greeted on its entry into the world by a vaccine injection against a sexually transmitted disease for which the baby is not at risk -- because they couldn't get the junkies, prostitutes, homosexuals and promiscuous heterosexuals to take the vaccine. That is the essence of the Hepatitis B universal vaccination program.
Question: What are the risks and benefits for administering this vaccine to infants?
Answer: Hepatitis B is a rare, mainly blood-transmitted disease. In 1996, only 54 cases of the disease were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 age group. There were 3.9 million births that year, so the observed incidence of hepatitis B in the 0-1 age group was just 0.001%. In the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from Hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 age group, with 47 deaths reported. Total VAERS Hepatitis B reports for the 0-1 age group outnumber reported cases of the disease 20 to 1.
Question: Why don't they just screen the mother to see if she is infected with Hepatitis B (since that's about the only way a baby is likely to get the disease), instead of vaccinating all infants?
Answer: Selling vaccines is extremely profitable and the process of mandating vaccines is fraught with conflicts of interest between vaccine manufacturers, the ACIP and the American Academy of Pediatrics. The business model of having the government mandate everyone must buy your product is a monopolist's delight.
Question: What studies are being done on the data from the FDA's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)?
Answer: Absolutely nothing. The 25,000 reports are going into a drawer and being forgotten.
How many reports are enough to show a drug or vaccine is dangerous -- 2,500? 25,000? 250,000? Chen of the CDC and Ellenberg of the FDA monitor this data, write reports and deliver speeches about how VAERS Hepatitis B adverse reaction reports show nothing out of the ordinary and show "the relative safety of HB vaccine when given to neonates and infants." VAERS shows nothing of the kind. TAKE A LOOK AT THE VAERS DATA YOURSELF.
The health authorities continue to negligently downplay the steady stream of serious adverse reactions to this vaccine and more infants and adults continue to die and suffer central nervous system and liver damage after HB vaccination.
Question: Why do the CDC, ACIP and Merck say that there are 140,000-320,000 new infections/yr (70,000-160,000 symptomatic infections/yr) when their own CDC data shows only 10,000 reported cases year?
Answer: They are passing off estimated, hypothetical numbers as actual cases. This is statistical fraud. In the financial world such mis-representation would lead to criminal charges. If a company inflated its earnings or revenues by 300% (as the CDC does hepatitis B disease statistics) and foisted those figures off as official data (and not some back-of-the-envelope guess-timate) -- that company would be investigated by the SEC and sued by shareholders. Why doesn't that happen in the medical world? There's no regulator to keep the CDC honest. They do not say those figures are hypothetical estimates, they misrepresent the data. Go try to audit those 320,000 supposed new infections/yr. You will not find them. The whole exercise is designed to increase public hysteria about the risk of a low-risk disease so the CDC can extend it's pervasive influence and Merck can increase it's $900 million/year vaccine revenues.
Question: What process does the Center for Disease Control employ to make a vaccine recommendation?
I attended the February Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meeting in Atlanta and was absolutely appalled. Every vote by the Committee on new vaccine mandates was unanimous (except for one dissenting vote on Rotavirus vaccine for premature infants). There was hardly any discussion of adverse reactions, the ACIP simply rubber-stamped every proposal on the agenda. I call it Vaccination Without Representation. In one instance, the ACIP passed a recommendation for Rotavirus vaccine for premature infants even though no scientific studies had been done showing it was medically safe. Dr. Modlin, (Chairman of the ACIP), said in a pro-Hepatitis B vaccine debate in New Hampshire "How do we determine whether something is scientifically valid or not? ... 1) Is the theory biologically plausible? 2) Has it been tested by appropriate methods? 3) Is the study well concluded? 4) Are the results statistically sound?" But at the February ACIP meeting, when it came time for the ACIP to rubber-stamp approval of Rotavirus vaccine for premature infants, here are Modlin's quotes from the official transcript: "... available data are insufficient to fully establish the safety and efficacy of rotavirus vaccine in premature infants ... there is a section under Adverse Events that details what little information there actually are with respect to premature infants ... To my knowledge we don't have data from a clinical trial specifically ... Some bit of information from Seattle, as I recall, that had suggested there was a slight increase in relative risk for hospitalization for premature infants ... Obviously a situation where we have to make a judgment in the absence of data, and with a vaccine that has not yet been tested in the group ..." (ACIP transcript, pages 102-112) Modlin then held a vote and the recommendation for premature infants passed nine to one -- Modlin voted yes, Dr. Glode against. This is a clear example of how the medical bureaucracy (led by the CDC and ACIP), is recommending vaccines without scientific evidence that those vaccines are safe in a broad sample of racially and genetically diverse infants.
What Should Be Done? This Committee should investigate the 1991 ACIP recommendation establishing universal hepatitis B vaccination of newborn babies in the hospital -- and if (as with the Rotavirus vaccine example above) no studies were done to prove this was safe in a broad sample of racially and genetically diverse babies less than 48 hours old before they established that recommendation, then the CDC has been experimenting on babies like guinea pigs and this Committee should suspend that universal immunization policy.
VAERS ANALYSIS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)
I studied statistics at the University Of California at Berkeley and went on to develop sophisticated proprietary risk/reward statistical models at Salomon Brothers from 1986-91 -- and in my subsequent, ongoing business provide statistical economic and financial forecasts to mutual funds, investment banks, pension funds and hedge funds.
I studied VAERS Hepatitis B vaccine data obtained by the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) under the Freedom of Information Act. The data has some flaws (incomplete fields, some multiple reports) but any qualified, impartial quantitative analyst or statistician not affiliated with Merck, Smithkline, the CDC, the FDA or the AAP who examines these reports will find a clear and undeniable pattern of central nervous system (CNS) and liver disease striking thousands of people within 0-4 days after vaccination with Hepatitis B vaccine. These reports have been ignored, explained away, or considered "acceptable" by the FDA, CDC and drug companies. This Committee should launch an investigation of the VAERS Hepatitis B data by a team of independent scientists not beholden to vaccine manufacturers or the FDA/CDC bureaucracy. The following is intended to be a starting point for such an investigation. This does not profess to be a complete, exhaustive analysis -- simply an overview, highlighting aspects of the data that may not previously have been brought to your attention.
The total 24,775 VAERS Hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998 show 439 deaths and 9673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits, hospitalization, disablement or death. Therefore, more than one third of total reports were serious events. 17,497 of those total reports were for Hepatitis B vaccine only, the remainder were vaccine cocktails where hepatitis B was administered along with DPT, HIB, IPV, OPV, etc.
The Hepatitis-B-vaccine-only reports show a shocking cluster of reactions in females starting in their teenage years (the male/female reporting ratio is balanced before age 16). For ages 16-55, 77% of VAERS reports are women -- more than three times as many women as men are reporting adverse reactions to Hepatitis B vaccine. The median onset of adverse event after vaccination is one day, 70% of reactions happen within four days of vaccination. Independent scientists should investigate why females are more disposed to have adverse reactions to Hepatitis B vaccine and/or report them to VAERS. One possible explanation is that nurses have to take this vaccine for their jobs and are thus more exposed than most adults to Hepatitis B vaccine adverse reactions. Rather than dismiss that factor as an "over-reporting bias" as Dr. Chen of the CDC did at the February ACIP meeting, perhaps investigators might consider that nurses are alert health care workers and ought to be listened to with regard to the dangers of adverse events with any vaccine (rather than ignored). Personal case studies reported to the author have showed many teenage girls getting severe, debilitating adverse reactions to Hepatitis B vaccine, having nothing to do with nursing. Do women have a greater vulnerability to auto-immune reactions to Hepatitis B vaccine? Is the government discriminating against women by administering this vaccine without regard for genetic risk of CNS and liver disease? Those are questions that independent scientists should investigate.
A second area of concern is the VAERS reports involving Hepatitis B vaccine administered with other vaccines (vaccine cocktails). Health officials are fond of dismissing those reports as being attributable to Hepatitis B vaccine, because of the multiple other antigens present (almost as if they wanted to cloak Hepatitis B vaccine reactions from scrutiny). Let's avoid that controversy and focus on the extremely disturbing VAERS data of Hepatitis B vaccine with other vaccines. These reports amount to only one third of total reports (7,275), but account for two thirds of total deaths (291). The median onset of those deaths was 2 days after vaccination -- displaying a clear temporal association. The median age of death was 0.5 years in this group. 50% of all Hepatitis-B-vaccine-cocktail reports were serious (died, emergency room, hospitalized, disabled). I grouped convulsive reactions together from the Hep-B-vaccine-cocktail data and found a deeply disturbing pattern. These were anything labeled convulsions, seizures or tremors in the VAERS Hep-B-cocktail data. Of the 1189 such reports, fully 80% (950) were serious (died, ER, hospitalized, disabled) median age 0.5 years, median onset after vaccination 0 days (less than one day). Someone should do follow-up and find out what happened to those poor infants who suffered severe convulsions after a Hepatitis B-multi-vaccine cocktail. In the personal reports I've taken of similar adverse reactions, the children were left brain-damaged and developmentally disabled. Looking beyond the debate over whether VAERS reports of vaccine cocktails can be attributed to Hepatitis B, the data strongly suggests combining multiple vaccines may be convenient and profitable for pediatricians -- but fatal or debilitating for infants. Where are the scientific studies showing Hepatitis B vaccine is safe to administer with DPT, HIB, IPV, OPV, etc.? Did anyone doing cost/benefit analysis for those studies include data showing the higher mortality and serious reactions present in the VAERS data? Why not? Is there an identifiable genetic marker in those who suffered convulsive reactions to screen out those vulnerable in the future? These are all matters for independent scientists to audit.
Another area that leaps out of the VAERS database is something I dubbed arthritic reactions. These are joint pains, tingling, numbness, aching, fatigue, etc. I found 2,400 of those reports in just a quick survey of the first reporting column of VAERS (Hepatitis B vaccine only). Almost one half of those are serious, involving an ER visit, hospitalization, death or disablement. These are the type of adverse reactions reported by many adults who are forced to take the Hepatitis B vaccine for their jobs. In the reports of such adverse reactions I've taken, the symptoms do not go away, most patients complain it gets worse over time. Scientists not corrupted by drug company or CDC/FDA institutional bias should examine the thousands of VAERS Hepatitis B arthritic reaction reports and develop a diagnosis of their Hepatitis B vaccine-related illness.
Anyone who doubts if Hepatitis B vaccine adverse reactions exist should sit down and read the symptoms and text comments of a random selection of VAERS reports. When one does so, they will find a similar but wide-ranging list of CNS and liver reactions that occur within days of vaccination. The Merck package insert claims "Injection site reactions and systemic complaints were reported following 17% and 15% on the injections, respectively." The standard rule of thumb is only about 10% of reactions are reported to VAERS. So the actual number and full horror of the Hepatitis B vaccine reaction story is potentially much larger than even VAERS suggests.
J.B. Handley is co-founder of Generation Rescue.
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Posted by: Stephen wathan | October 23, 2015 at 01:52 AM
I searched VAERS for instances where vaccine was hep b, the recipient was under 1 year and died within 3 days of vaccination. Before 1993, not surprisingly, there were few reports, but then the incidence jumped...around. A quick scan indicated the vaccines were Recombivax, Engerix-B or "unknown." (I didn't search for combination vaccines.) Usually the hep b vaccine was administered with other vaccines rather than alone.
1993 36
1994 30
1995 34
1996 25
1997 25
1998 30
1999 19
2000 26
2001 20
2002 12
2003 10
2004 24
2005 11
2006 6
2007 8
2008 16
2009 15
2010 16
2011 22
2012 12
Posted by: Carol | June 02, 2013 at 03:27 PM
"Studied (sic) on animals aren't convincing either people."
Other than being laughably moronic, that's a hallmark point of tobacco science right there, repeated ad nauseum when animal studies show direct links between industrial and commercial products and cancers/tumors in animals.
Source: Devra Davis, The Secret History of the War on Cancer.
Posted by: They're giving anyone medical degrees these days... | September 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM
The excerpt below is from an excellent 1999 article about hepatitis B vaccine, http://www.houstonpress.com/1999-06-03/news/immune-to-reason/
"But, while the risk of hepatitis B appears minimal, the vaccine has been blamed for some 25,000 adverse reactions nationwide between July 1990 and October 1998, according to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, or VAERS, which collects 'anecdotal' evidence from pediatricians, family physicians and other health care providers.
In 1996 Breonna was diagnosed as having chronic fatigue syndrome, an autoimmune disorder. Her doctor filed a VAERS report attributing Breonna's illness to a hepatitis B vaccine reaction. It was one of roughly 1,100 adverse reactions reported out of Texas between July 1990 and October 1998, including 33 deaths, 370 emergency room visits and 93 hospitalizations. About 20 more vaccine recipients became 'disabled,' though the length and severity of the disabilities are difficult to discern from the available data."
Posted by: Carol | September 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Josephmd
Is that MD for medical doctor!
Oh my gosh for sure you know more than me about everything on the planet!
And if you have a PhD you would know it all to, right?
or
it could mean
menial degree - as you stay in your safe school, being hand feed what they want you to know while the rest of us were taught by the real world.
and
PhD -- post hole digger --- studied in detail one thing just like some one digging post hole only knows what is under the dirt - at that very spot - eight inch diameter and three feet down - but never looked at the meadow and what is growing there as a whole.
Is that you? Probably!
Posted by: Benedetta | May 23, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Joseph,
Can you give us the name of the study that compares vaccinated children vs children who have never been vaccinated at all? It should also compare the outcomes for the kids who have never been vaccinated vs those that have received the complete recommended schedule. Since doctors practice evidence based medicine I'm sure the study must be out there but I can't find it. It is impossible to make benefit vs risk calculations without that info.
Since the Supreme Court has upheld the law removing ALL liability from vaccine makers and physicians it leaves parents/injured children out in the cold when an adverse event occurs. Adverse events do occur, even the manufacturer acknowledges that.
Shelly
Posted by: For Josephmd | May 23, 2012 at 05:25 PM
You are non-scientific people with high emotions and low scientific, objective data. Sorry for the loss of SIDS, but SIDS existed before the HepB vaccine.
Studied on animals aren't convincing either people. Real physicians practice evidence based medicine. Not emotion based, he said she said.
Posted by: Josephmd | May 23, 2012 at 04:12 PM
I truly believe that Hep B caused my Son's autism. He was jaundiced, and they gave him Hep B at 12 hours. Hell, I didn't know. I was a 'good mom', and grew up in the 60's with Polio, and other horrible diseases. Wow, yet, the government continues to turn a blind side, because if they ever did acknowledge the devasation Hep B vaccines cause a newborn, it would pretty much bankrupt the government, as they would have to put all these kids on medicaid. Now, these kids are kicked to the curb, their treatment bankrupts, pretty much every autism family, and for goodness sakes, devastates this little human's life.
Posted by: Mary Mck | November 07, 2009 at 03:49 AM
Re Vitamin K shot http://www.whale.to/y/vitk.html
This product contains aluminum.
Vitamin K shot linked to leukemia.
Newborn Vitamin K administration linked to higher cancer rate for 1-6 year old children
Posted by: john | October 13, 2009 at 04:22 AM
Jen, at the risk of perpetuating a conversation which may be sidetracking us, I do want to say that your statement, "some of you are still howling about thimerosal in Hepatitis vaccines?" seems to me inconsistent with the goal that, "We're all in this boat together, and we shouldn't be attacking one another."
I imagine you did not make that statement with ill intentions, but it feels rather like a slap in the face to people who have concrete logical beliefs (based on science as well as on what parents have witnessed) that their children were harmed by the thimerosal in vaccines, and to those who are still "howling" and will never stop grieving the loss of a baby, such as the baby in this article who may very well have been killed by thimerosal (or possibly by something else in the Hep B vaccine), or grieving for typically developing toddlers who lost language, health, and happiness because of overvaccination.
It is a favorite technique of the anti-biomedical deniers-of-vaccine-injury to point out that some children become autistic without vaccines, or without vaccines containing thimerosal. It would be very simplistic to believe that therefore vaccines (with or without thimerosal) never cause autism. So that arguement does raise some ire, because we have heard it too many times before, and mostly from people who are on the other side and who are very much on the attack.
You may very well have the best of intentions, and I think most of us are interested in looking at all factors, not just vaccines, not just thimerosal. But I'm just trying to explain to you why your words are more inflammatory than you perhaps intended. And, I think most of us believe (at least I do) that vaccines are the primary factor in the increase in autism (as well as ADHD, asthma, severe allergies, diabetes...) that we have seen over the past 25 years, even if not the only factor.
Feel free to disagree, but don't portray us as "still howling about thimerosal" -- which also conveys another insulting stereotype we so often hear -- that of emotional hostile desperate parents incapable of rational thought. (Rather like werewolves.)
As RFK said at the Green our Vaccines Rally:
"I was working on mercury issues from an environmental standpoint.. Because it causes neurological injury in children. So the government scientists are acknowledging that even tiny, infinitesimal amounts of mercury—parts per billion—will cause profound neurological injury in children. And I was working on these issues, and mothers started coming up to me and said, 'You know, the biggest exposure is not coming from power plants, or old mining claims, or old mining claims, as you might think. It’s coming from our own vaccines.' And they asked me to work on it, and to just look into it. And they were not hysterical people. They were scientists, they were doctors, they were psychiatrists, they were pharmacists, they were people that had their feet on the ground. They had attended the conferences, they had read the scientific literature, they had calmly and deliberately gone through this, and they had reached a conclusion. And the conclusion was that the vaccines were destroying the health, were making the sickest generation of American children in the history of our country."
http://www.generationrescue.org/news-press/green-our-vaccines/robert-f-kennedy-jr-transcript.htm
Posted by: Twyla | October 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Jen-
I was done with this thread as well. As I said, having discussions that are peppered with sarcasm and disregard for science are frustrating and go nowhere.
Your comment-
"Metal excretion (of all sorts) is a problem for them. But again, it's just one of MANY problems."
- is missing the point. Metal excretion is an issue but not the sole point. Stay tuned for Dan and Mark's book which will fill in some of the historical pieces while looking at the science.
Posted by: Teresa Conrick | October 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Taximom
I responded to your post below. Sorry I forgot to address you.
Posted by: Benedetta | October 11, 2009 at 08:58 PM
Taximom,
Yes,
After my son's first DPT shot, he had a really prolonged high fever, but everything seemed okay, we went to the doctor and he heard a little heart murmur. He sent us to the University of Kentucky and the ped cadilogist listen to it and said my son would always have it, but it would not ever give him any trouble.
Now we have been through a lot with his heatlh,two more DPT each getting worse finally leading to a stroke, but that heart mummur - no doctor has ever heard it again.
I think it was inflammation of the heart valves. Kawasaki's is a inflammation of the heart, heart arteries, and the heart valves.
By the way it is the same thing as autism just affects different parts of the body. I know all this because My daughter had Kawasaki's before my son was born.
Recent kawasaki's kids biggest risk is having anuerisms, but a lot of times they have (as they are looking at their hearts) extra pink valves and they are leaky (heart murmurs).
Reminds me of the time that a new ped in training looked at my son's ear. He had recently gotten over an ear infection and it was still pretty red and swollen. She was confused, she thought it was extreme scarring! When all it was, was left over inflammation and that scarring would go away! I would guess it was the same with my son's heart murmur.
Posted by: Benedetta | October 11, 2009 at 08:57 PM
Jen, you are right about Tylenol being given without permission-- at our pediatrician's office, they gave it WITH the shot--again, they never asked if it was okay, they just said, "standard procedure!" with a big smile and handed me a baby who, 30 minutes later, was to spend over 3 hours screaming like I've never heard screaming before--and this from a 2-month-old who was only 8 pounds (was 4 1/2 pounds at birth) AND who had not one but 2 VSD's (ventricular septal defects) and had not had the strength to even cry before this time.
By the way, has anyone ever seen any studies on cardiac defects and vaccine reactions?
Posted by: Taximom | October 11, 2009 at 07:06 PM
"Do you have 2 sons, one vaccinated and one not? It is unclear."
Yes.
If I'm not making myself clear, again, I apologize. I do not deny that mercury is a problem for our kids. And for those wondering, I do indeed have a mouthful of amalgams. We also lived in government housing when I was pregnant, and a lot of those old houses have lead problems. Metal excretion (of all sorts) is a problem for them. But again, it's just one of MANY problems.
And Teresa, you did indeed copy and paste the parts of that wiki article that supported your beliefs, while ignoring the preceding paragraphs. (I believe some would call that "cherry-picking".) Coal tar based antipyretics have been in use since the late 19th century, and that was the part of the article that you seem to have overlooked. I think coal tar based products of all sorts are problematic, (and that includes the FD&C food colorings that are also increasingly heavily marketed towards children, but that's another rant altogether!) and that's the part I wanted you to pay attention to. The portion that you quoted said, "Paracetamol was first marketed in the United States in 1953..."
First *marketed*, not when it was first used.
"then here you say you have 1 son-
"Julie,
My youngest son is on the autism spectrum (PDD-NOS) He. Is. UNVACCINATED.
So... how did vaccines alter his immune system?"
There's nothing contradictory about that. In order to have a "youngest" son, one must also have an older son.
Again, none of this bickering and nitpicking is at all helpful, so as far as I'm concerned, this particular discussion is over.
Posted by: Jen | October 11, 2009 at 01:36 PM
Jen -
your past comment to me-
"Your selective cutting and pasting is noted.
Just so you know, this theory in NO WAY lets mercury off the hook."
- was sarcastic yet also conflicts from your earlier comment-...
"While I'm not entirely on board with the idea that autism is purely genetic, I also don't think that thimerosal or any other component of vaccines causes it either. (I don't think it helps matters though)."
Also, you comment that you have 2 sons on the spectrum here-
"We lived in government housing at the time, and there were FIVE autistic kids on my block alone, and four of them were all in the same duplex! My two boys and hers."
then here you say you have 1 son-
"Julie,
My youngest son is on the autism spectrum (PDD-NOS) He. Is. UNVACCINATED.
So... how did vaccines alter his immune system?"
Do you have 2 sons, one vaccinated and one not? It is unclear.
Someone asked about you having any possible exposure to environmental mercury (thimerosal is also in many products besides vaccines, too) and unless I missed that, it remains unanswered. Either way, I prefer to have civil discussions about causation and treatments regarding autism. If someone has a plausible hypothesis, that's fine but if they are condescending and attempting to shoot down sound science in an attempt to prove their own hypothesis, well, something else is going on.
Posted by: Teresa Conrick | October 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM
The sulfation issue interests me as well, Kathy. I came across this information when my son began having red ears and behavior issues after eating bananas. Prior to this, he was given Tylenol, because I had thought he was having headaches.
http://www.newtreatments.org/Sulfur/ga/252/Autism%20and%20phenol-sulphotransferase
Note the last sentence...
"Since sulfur intake is low, and its oxidation is slow in many
autistic children, sulfate is low, and PST activity is slower than it
would be otherwise. It would seem that this sub optimality of
sulphotransferase activity is a function of low plasma sulfate levels
rather than of deficits in the actual enzyme. Cellular level
enzymatic effects of mercury's binding with proteins include blockage
of sulfur oxidation processes and of the neurotransmitter amino
acids. These have been found to be significant factors in many
autistics. Thus, mercury, and any foodstuff that requires or uses up
sulfate ions during its metabolism, will make the situation worse.
These foodstuffs include foods that supply neurotransmitters, like
bananas (serotonin), chocolate (phenylethylamine), and cheese
(tyramine), apple juice (and one mother reports her child drank a
quart a day!), citrus fruit juices, and paracetamol (Tylenol™). For
instance, one or two minutes after a dose of Tylenol™, the entire
supply of sulfate in the liver is gone!"
Posted by: Jen | October 11, 2009 at 10:47 AM
"So, if you think your child has never had any shots, and he was born in a hospital, and you left him in the nursery so you could take a shower, or sleep, you just might be wrong about his un-vaccinated status..."
Sorry, the only time my son left my side was right after he was born, and my husband was ordered into the nursery to watch the nursing staff like a hawk. He assured me that the only "shot" he received was the Vitamin K. When he was brought to me, I examined his legs carefully for any extra puncture marks. He roomed with me the entire time. When he was taken again for his hearing exam, I followed along. I was adamant about him not receiving that shot, and I was going to ensure that no "mistakes" occurred.
And for those who say that you didn't give Tylenol before vaccines...check your kids' medical records. I never remembered giving Tylenol to my older son when he was a baby, but the nursing staff had recorded that he was given 0.4ml of Tylenol with them. (He was seen in a military facility, and I imagine if it was done to my son, it was done to thousands of others, as well.) I do remember the many bottles of "free" tylenol that I acquired after his vaccines, though. I've noticed that children of servicemembers seem to have higher rates of autism.
And Teresa? I'm not the enemy. We're all in this boat together, and we shouldn't be attacking one another. We should be directing our anger at those who are causing this tragedy, namely those at the FDA and the CDC who seem to be asleep at the wheel.
That said, if my comments offend, I apologize.
Posted by: Jen | October 11, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Hepatitis B Vaccine with Thimerosal Linked to Developmental Delays in Animal Study: http://www.newsinferno.com/archives/13290#more-13290
Posted by: Cynthia111 | October 11, 2009 at 02:33 AM
My second baby was given 3 shots the day of birth WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
It happens all the time, according to the nurses.
So, if you think your child has never had any shots, and he was born in a hospital, and you left him in the nursery so you could take a shower, or sleep, you just might be wrong about his un-vaccinated status...
Posted by: Taximom | October 11, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Bryan, do you think it's possible that maybe all humans are coexisting with a harmless borrelia infection--but for some (like 1 in 68), something (like um, maybe a vaccine?) triggers it massively out of control?
Has anybody ever run a Lyme test on a HEALTHY person? What if we all have, and it's not a problem for most of us, until....
Posted by: Taximom | October 11, 2009 at 12:00 AM
My friend and researcher has the down low on tylenol...his words don't talk about glutathione loss, something even worse may be happening.
Please see
www.rollingdigital.com/autism
If you doubt his science, frankly, anyone who doubts it, is an idiot.
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | October 10, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Jen-
Your sarcasm and idiotic comments are also noted. I take back my "please present information about tylenol"- instead you now need to present factual data about it and your insufficient viewpoints on thimerosal.
Your snide posts do not need to be tolerated here. Having a child with autism gives no one the right to be rude and condescending to anyone, especially a fellow parent.
Get over yourself.
Posted by: Teresa Conrick | October 10, 2009 at 08:42 PM
Jen,
What kind of physiological, molecular, biological,etc toxic insult will satisfy your "belief" for a cause of the cascade of neurological, immune, gastrointestinal, fine and gross motor, speech pathologies and all around disabilities we see in 1 in 91 children.
What kind of toxicological or other forensics are you looking for which will help, 1 in 91 children?
Posted by: michael framson | October 10, 2009 at 05:32 PM
Twyla,
I'm backing down from nothing. Mercury is a problem, no doubt, (especially for those whose detoxification capabilities aren't fully functional) but it's just one of MANY problems for our kids, and I do not believe it to be the "cause" of autism.
Posted by: Jen | October 10, 2009 at 01:55 PM
Let's be honest ALL vaccines are an unmitigated disaster.
Posted by: Maggie | October 10, 2009 at 01:22 PM
And let's not forget the pediatricians tell us that the reason behind infant vaccination with the Hep B vaccine is to catch them before they reach the age of sexual activity. Well the vaccine wears off YEARS before the age anyone could imagine sexual activity begining, less than 10 years on average.
This vaccine is a shining example of just how corrupt the vaccine business is in this country. Giving a vaccine with a high incidence of adverse events to NEWBORNS???? This is insanity, pure and simple. My son had his life changed forever on December 18th, 1998, from his 3rd Hep B vaccine. He is now 11 years old, non-verbal and moderately autistic. The one thing he is NOT: immune to the Hepatitis B virus. The brain injury endures, the immunity to that virus does not.
Anyone who defends the inclusion of the Hepatitis B Vaccine for infants is either completely delusional, or has money riding on it. Either way, they are dangerous people.
Posted by: Sylvia | October 10, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Both my boys, the oldest on the spectrum and the youngest suspected ADD, had ALL the Hep B shots very early. The older son had 3 of the series by 9 months and the younger had 4 of the Hep B by 6 months!--Not by 18 months, by 6 and 9 months. That is ridiculious!! My grandson also had seizures after having the Hep B. When is this going to stop? This particular shot should only be given to babies with positive mothers. The parents in this country need to be better informed. The doctors don't explain anything to us. They just tell us that , "Oh today your son is due for 4 shots". What they don't explain is, really he is getting 7 not 4, there just combined into 4. I didn't know anything about vaccines until my oldest son was diagnosed with Autism. In the last 5 years of trying to help him through research on my own, I am so appaulled and angry because we, the parents have no idea. We have trusted our children's doctors and never question what they tell us what is going to happen. Nothing explained. No other options. Even after my sons diagnosis, the doctor still wanted to vaccinate him with other "needed vaccinations". Never thinking twice that maybe, just maybe there is something wrong here?
Then finding out what vaccinations are required for school vs. what he had actually received prior to enrollment into kindergarden. They had been given 8 shots that were not required for enrollment into kindergarden, all of these which were given before they were 12 and 15 months! Also they needed an extra DTaP and an IPV beyond the "required" doses already received because they were not spaced out properly and given too early. Both of these vaccinations just mentioned, our school district requires the last dose be given after the 4th birthday. The entire series was given in 9 months for the IPV and 15 months for the DTaP. Does this make any sense at all?? So they ave to get a total of 10 shots that they don't need and one of the shots has three viruses being given, so the total is really 12. Why? I don't get it!
Posted by: Karen LeGary | October 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Jen said, "Just so you know, this theory [re: Tylenol] in NO WAY lets mercury off the hook. However, I think mercury is just one small part of a much larger problem."
I guess you're backing down from your initial statements that "While I'm not entirely on board with the idea that autism is purely genetic, I also don't think that thimerosal or any other component of vaccines causes it either," and, "some of you are still howling about thimerosal in Hepatitis vaccines?"
And, you pointed to your own unvaccinated child's autism as if that is proof that vaccines don't cause autism.
Sounds to me like you ARE letting vaccines and the mercury in vaccines completely off the hook.
If you had said that Tylenol can be a contributing factor to the inability to detoxify mercury, and that mercury in the environment and other sources may also be a factor in causing autism, I think many here would agree.
But if you aren't letting mercury off the hook, I don't know why you would let mercury injected directly into little babies off the hook.
And if vaccines do not cause every single case of autism, and if thimerosal is not the only problematic ingredient in vaccines, that does not disprove that vaccines are causing a sizable portion of the current autism epidemic.
Posted by: Twyla | October 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Once again, for those of you who missed it:
The risk of an "adverse reaction" to the Hep B for the age group 0-1 years old was *20 times* the risk of developing the disease, per the VAERS database in 1996.
The adverse reactions included 47 reported deaths. Parental evidence suggests many such deaths go unrecorded.
The vaccine is still routinely administered to newborns, as of 2009, sometimes against the parents' explicit instructions NOT to vaccinate.
If you do not wish to have this particular vaccine for your baby, do not let your newborn out of your sight, or out of the arms of someone you trust, until you leave the hospital.
Posted by: Terri Lewis | October 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM
The centre of gravity is in the minds of the doctors that routinely see patients on a daily basis.
Most have a strong conscience, but in their hectic existence accept the information passed down to them, confident that the structure of medical research is sound.
When those doctors start to ask questions, medical authorities will have to respond. Showing a doctor the science on this vaccine would be a worthwhile step for anyone reading this article to take.
Posted by: GH | October 10, 2009 at 10:58 AM
I wrote a book on the connection between Lyme disease and autism: http://www.lymeautismbook.com
Bryan
Posted by: Bryan | October 10, 2009 at 03:19 AM
"In 2002, the Institute of Medicine (which I personally believe is a corrupt agent of the vaccine industry but many believe is the final word on medical issues)"
J.B.
So Pharma/vaccine manufacturers owns the media and Wall Street, the FDA is wholly owned subsidiary of Merck, the drug industry buys Congress and gets the laws it needs, Pharma teaches doctors and medical students how to think, prints the medical journals and the CDC does it job to kill the studies, run interference to make sure no truth escapes their grasp.....and the IOM just seals the deal so no one will be allowed to look any further.
Where is the center of gravity in all of this?
All together, they are a weapon of mass destruction and they are destroying mankind.
Posted by: michael framson | October 10, 2009 at 02:20 AM
Katherine, I agree with/second the many criticisms/rebuttals that have been made in response to your idiotic comment.
I would also add that when you said, "By not vaccinating your children, you are not only putting your own children at risk, you are putting the entire community at risk of serious infection," this was particularly dense in relation to the Hepatitis B vaccine, which is spread like AIDS by sharing bodily fluids, e.g. via sex or shared IV needles. Our children are not at risk for Hepatitis B nor are they spreading it.
Moreover, most of our kids are fully vaccinated. That is the point. We obediently trustingly followed instructions from the CDC and our doctors, and in many cases our children are suffering the adverse consequences of our misplaced confidence.
Did you not read this article? Did you not understand the senseless tragedy of this 15 day old infant's death in the name of preventing a disease for which this baby girl was not even at risk?
Posted by: Twyla | October 10, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Teresa,
Your selective cutting and pasting is noted.
Just so you know, this theory in NO WAY lets mercury off the hook. However, I think mercury is just one small part of a much larger problem.
Posted by: Jen | October 09, 2009 at 10:01 PM
jen- re Tylenol
What I found was this and if you have something different, please present it. These dates are at least 10 years after Kanner's original paper and 20 years after the first 11 were born. I fail to see that as a "ground zero." Also,your desire to not want thimerosal/mercury,a mitochondria damaging component (and more) to cause autism, does not change the history it has made. (vaccines, eye drops, ear drops, Rhogam, contact solution, ointments, teething powders, worm killing preparations, fungicides, etc).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol
"Paracetamol was first marketed in the United States in 1953 by Sterling-Winthrop Co., which promoted it as preferable to aspirin since it was safe to take for children and people with ulcers.[14] The best known brand today for paracetamol in the United States, Tylenol, was established in 1955 when McNeil Laboratories started selling paracetamol as a pain and fever reliever for children, under the brand name Tylenol Children's Elixir—the word "tylenol" was a contraction of para-acetylaminophenol.[20] In 1956, 500 mg tablets of paracetamol went on sale in the United Kingdom under the trade name Panadol,
Posted by: Teresa Conrick | October 09, 2009 at 06:16 PM
"My son had both doses of the MMR. Read this part carefully: He has NO IMMUNITY to measles!!!"
Interesting. Years ago, one of my next door neighbor's autistic sons had the measles, despite being vaccinated. Two other fully vaccinated autistic children at the fall break day camp they attended also got it. (Oddly, that little measles outbreak didn't make national headlines, probably because all were fully vaccinated.) I suspect that viral shedding by the mom's recent MMR vax that was required for her job might have been the trigger for that outbreak, but am not sure.
The year prior, her other vaccinated autistic son had the chicken pox. Lotta good that did.
We lived in government housing at the time, and there were FIVE autistic kids on my block alone, and four of them were all in the same duplex! My two boys and hers. No epidemic? Please.
Posted by: Jen | October 09, 2009 at 05:27 PM
Does anyone find it odd that all the commercials on TV for Pharma products have a list of disclosed potentially life threatening side effects but the pro vaccine, pharma crowd and the media act like vaccines have no side effects at all and have never had any side effects? I guess when you pockets are being stuffed with cash it keeps your vision blurred so you do not notice these things.
Posted by: Richard | October 09, 2009 at 05:22 PM
To whomever posted http://iansvoice.org/ianslife.aspx - THANK YOU!
Posted by: Angela | October 09, 2009 at 04:56 PM
"If you're just sincerely frustrated that no one's dropping investigations of thimerosal and vaccines in general in favor for your theory, just bear in mind that Tylenol didn't exist at the time Kanner gathered together his first American cases and when Asperger rounded up his."
You're mistaken. It has been around since the late 19th century. It just wasn't called "Tylenol" and it wasn't as widely used as it is today. Look it up.
Posted by: Jen | October 09, 2009 at 04:40 PM
Today it is in our papers that President Obama has received the Nobel Peace Prize not so much for what he has done but the high hopes the world have of him.
Perhaps he can grasp the spiritual harm and emotional hurt inflicted on the autistic community by this endless ghastly charade and sick pantomime.
Perhaps he can understand that as a community we can have no peace or resolution until the lie has been dealt with.
Perhaps he can see that unless he allows us to put this matter to rest it will continue to fester and poison the spirit of our age.
Robin Rowlands
Posted by: Robin Rowlands | October 09, 2009 at 03:53 PM
Thank you so much for this thoughtful review. The jury is really in on this deadly vaccine.
Michael Belkin's testimony was the most compelling I've ever heard. It also broke my heart-- for his child, for all our kids, for the crushing disappointment in government officials. I don't know how those listening were able to sit through it and remain unchanged but many obviously did. Sickening.
Posted by: Gatogorra | October 09, 2009 at 03:49 PM
"By not vaccinating your children, you are not only putting your own children at risk, you are putting the entire community at risk of serious infection. "
*Yawn*
My son had both doses of the MMR. Read this part carefully: He has NO IMMUNITY to measles!!! I'm interested to know if he has any immunity from any of the shots he got including the Hep B but it may raise red flags if my doctor orders any more titer tests. All the risks and for what I ask you? How many other children are in his shoes?
Herd immunity my arse.
Posted by: samaxtics | October 09, 2009 at 03:33 PM
Katherine,
You wrote "...and the last time I checked, vaccines don't affect your genes."
Where did you check? Search pubmed using "adjuvant" and "upregulate" and you will find researchers have not only accepted that adjuvants affect genetic expression, they use them specifically for that very purpose, ie aluminum based adjuvants are used to upregulate IgG production. And more recently it has been reported to also upregulate IgE production.
Please "check" out how viruses replicate and "check" out how "live" attentuated viruses, such as used in vaccines, interact with cell DNA/RNA.
I hope your ignorance and arrogance aren't being used to bring harm to more innocent children.
Posted by: to Katherine | October 09, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Katherine, Steve, any other researchers out there:
I really do sympathize that your research monies may rely on pharma grants. However, you do have some obligation to question product safety (vaccines) even, and especially when the issue involves your field of study!
People in the U.S. (and the U.S. influences many others' policies) are in the unfortunate position where recommendation AND surveillance of vaccines is coming from the same body (CDC) ...ahhhh the calls are coming from within the house!Black Xmas... I digress... anyways, for Christ's sake even the Alberta Motor Association doesn't give driving lessons because since they do driver's examinations, "that would be a conflict of interest." The CDC running the whole show is non-objective, unscientific. Period. End of story.
Posted by: jen | October 09, 2009 at 02:50 PM
Katherine, isn't mercury mutagenic? If you think vaccines are so great, have at 'er for you and yours. I have really looked into the hep b vaccine and I am shocked at the lack of REAL safety studies. LOOK for yourself. Why in God's name didn't someone do what Wakefield/Hewitson did BEFORE giving hep b vaccine to infants. YOu look it up. There are no real safety studies. Only efficacy and potency studies. Otherwise they gave it to older kids then watched them for the duration of the vaccination period (not longer) and concluded that it's safe. Then, they have the bright idea to just give it to babies. Not acceptable and you should know that. Are you from England? There are so so many sources cited for this on previous AoA articles;you just have to look. By the way, do you think Dr. Martha Herbert is whack? Dr. Bonnie Dunbar? Dr. The Gardasil researcher (i forget her name) who feels Gardasil is one big public health experiment? I could list many, many more. And Jen, this site has talked about tylenol alot. It could very well be part of the equation.
Posted by: jen | October 09, 2009 at 02:06 PM
Jen, I'm sorry to hear of your unvaccinated child's PDD-NOS diagnosis. May I suggest you look into Lyme as a possibility.
http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/ Be careful, though. The vast majority of Lyme tests are extremely unreliable (way too many false negatives). IgeneX http://www.igenex.com is the best laboratory for Lyme tests.
Also, do you have mercury fillings, did you eat fish during pregnancy, or do you live in a polluted area? Were you vaccinated during pregnancy? These are all risk factors.
Autism is a very complex illness, with many factors. I believe most kids can avoid if if they remain unvaccinated. But kids who are especially susceptible can become autistic without vaccines, if they have Lyme and/or especially high heavy metals from other sources.
Lyme disease is quite common, and many kids are born with it, including my two kids. We did not find out until they were 4 and 1. We got them tested after my diagnosis. They had some problems since birth before being treated for Lyme, and I'm convinced they would have become autistic if they had received vaccines.
Don't discount this as a possibility for your child.
Posted by: Theresa | October 09, 2009 at 01:53 PM
Kathleen sniveled:
"Autism isn't caused by a vaccine. It never has been. It has a strong _genetic_ basis and the last time I checked, vaccines don't affect your genes."
Oh, wow! The expert has spoken! Well, why didn't we ask her this 20 years ago when all of this started? We could have all put this to rest and none of us would ever have to worry about thinks like vaccine-induced encephalitis or iatrogenic autism.
I'm so glad you put this to bed for us, Kathleen. Now, if you could just back up your ignorant and pointless claim with evidence. We'll all wait anxiously for proof of your extraordinary claims.
Might want to get busy....it'll take you a long, long time to find that proof.
Posted by: Craig Willoughby | October 09, 2009 at 01:51 PM
Jen--
You started out generally polite when you began posting but something ugly is starting to leak through. Your pejorative description of vaccine-injury parents "howling", etc. That "mountain of epidemiological evidence" which you refer to-- in terms of being quality research-- is shite.
As for your anecdotal evidence-- if your child has efflux (even Tylenol mediated efflux) and is mercury/metal toxic from a source other than vaccines and you don't pursue every avenue to investigate the possibility-- with porphoryin analyses, challenge tests, hair tests, whatever-- yelling at us isn't going to make that uncomfortable itch in your head go away. Perception is stronger than truth only in...perception, not reality. Everyone here knows what a royal drag it is to pay out of pocket for testing and treatment for vaccine injuries and how easy it would be to make up a reason not to try that route-- except that, of course, our children would be paying for our denial.
If you're just sincerely frustrated that no one's dropping investigations of thimerosal and vaccines in general in favor for your theory, just bear in mind that Tylenol didn't exist at the time Kanner gathered together his first American cases and when Asperger rounded up his. But Germany was a leader in the chemical industry in 1930; was using mutagenic, mito-toxic biowarfare agents since WWI and both Germany and the US were using thimerosal and vaccines were becoming more prevalent.
I do believe that Tylenol contributes to the epidemic, is one of the more potent and universally available facilitator to be sure. There are literally thousands of facilitators which, though they can't cause autism on their own, can pile up and make it easier for the actual few culprits to do their "work"-- mito toxins, immune-modulatory agents, neurotoxins, allergens. As someone once said, epidemics are simple-- it simply can't be everything and the kitchen sink. Even a rank layperson can see that the clinical chain of damage in autism is too specific to be caused by "everything". Exposure to "everything"-- even Tylenol-- isn't 100% universal.
Some families whose children became vaccine injured never gave their kids Tylenol. There's really no alternate source for Tylenol other than in OTC or prescription medications-- but there are many alternative sources of mercury other than vaccines. Some families whose children regressed never vaccinated but admit to other forms of mercury/toxic metal exposure.
As far as the theory of timing, Prozac was marketed in 1987-- the year the epidemic really launched. It's mito toxic, destroys glutathione, induces immune dysfuction, liver damage, can trigger OCD, robotic behavior, brain swelling and no one's studied the long term effects of the fluorine component that makes the "fluo" in fluoxetine: it gets absorbed into bone indefinitely, could potentially be passed to a fetus years after maternal exposure. So why not that? Because, again, it didn't exist at the time that autism first started showing up and not all modern autism mothers took it. But like Tylenol, Prozac and similar drugs are no big help. Prozac increases permeability of the blood brain barrier, potentially allowing in more...mercury; destroys glutathione and lowers immune resistance= facilitator.
Posted by: Gatogorra | October 09, 2009 at 01:48 PM
From Katherine -
"Autism isn't caused by a vaccine. It never has been. It has a strong _genetic_ basis and the last time I checked, vaccines don't affect your genes."
Really, is that right? Did you completely miss Hannah Poling's story? If you did, go ahead and Google it. Get informed, and then perhaps you will think twice before making such outrageous claims.
Posted by: For Katherine | October 09, 2009 at 01:42 PM
I hate crying in the middle of an article...it's hard to read to the end with tears filling my eyes. This is somewhat of a rhetorical question but dang it, Why? Why? Why? I know it comes down to the ever-flowing fund$ from pharma. I know it comes down to the $tuffing of pockets some crooked doctors can't do without. Our children have been wronged by $cience and deserve so much more.
It's frustrating to read reports such as those in this article that go back to the 90s. The freaking 90s, people! Thank God for parents like us who won't sit on our butts and continue to listen to the dribble that spills forth from the powers that be. Thank God we at least figured out what was going on and going wrong with our kids. It's just too bad we are dismissed so quickly by "professional" when we do end up getting answers on our own.
Thanks for yet again sharing valuable pieces of information AoA. You guys are amazing.
Posted by: Cathy Jameson | October 09, 2009 at 01:31 PM
We all know that there are in fact unvaccinated kids with autism. But can any of you refer me to cases of regressive autism among unvaccinated children?
Posted by: guri | October 09, 2009 at 01:20 PM
For government to not respond to such damning evidence against this and other vaccines, it's obvious no words or evidence will affect policy. We need to exert pressure on the doctors directly responsible for the reckless over-vaccination of our children.
I propose nationwide demonstrations at large pediatric practices in major metropolitan areas, on a predetermined date. Such demonstrations would receive coverage in local media where pharmaceutical ties are virtually non-existent.
Posted by: End Pharma's Contract on Our Children | October 09, 2009 at 01:12 PM
Katherine -- If you skipped reading the italic text because you felt it was hard to see, then cut and paste it into a Microsoft Word window. Blow it up to 18 point and scroll slowly.
If you skipped reading the article because the paradox of vaccine injury is too painful to comprehend, then nothing will help you to see.
Either way, you give no indication that you have intellectually or emotionally processed the information presented here. This is not a rhetorical game; these are children's lives being forever damaged at day one.
Posted by: nhokkanen | October 09, 2009 at 01:00 PM
I think “health” authorities try so hard not to see problems with this vaccine, because they don’t even know if it provides any protection for the "at risk" infants with hepB positive mothers.
Posted by: JenB | October 09, 2009 at 12:53 PM
One more thing Katherine - if you think the Hep B shot is so safe,you might want to talk to my dear friend Deanna, and you might want to read Ian's story. I'll warn you - make sure you have a box of tissue and are prepared to walk away from the pc a few times.
http://iansvoice.org/ianslife.aspx
Posted by: Angela Warner | October 09, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Has anyone seen this latest one? not HepB but...
Pediatr Infect Dis J. 2009 Sep 19. [Epub ahead of print
Incidence of Herpes Zoster Among Children Vaccinated With Varicella Vaccine in a Prepaid Health Care Plan in the United States, 2002-2008.
Tseng HF et al, From the *Department of Research and Evaluation, Southern California Permanente Medical Group, Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena, CA; and daggerHarbor-UCLA Medical Center, UCLA Center for Vaccine Research, Torrance, CA.
BACKGROUND:: Herpes zoster (HZ), or shingles, is caused by reactivation of latent varicella-zoster virus after a primary infection with either wild-type or vaccine-type varicella-zoster virus, the latter having been introduced in 1995 for children. Since then, few population-based data about the incidence of childhood HZ are available. METHODS:: We identified children aged
Posted by: Natasa | October 09, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Katherine and Jen,
I have to admit like others who have commented already, I get quite sick of listening to your uneducated banter, with your know it all attitude.
Vaccines can and do cause autism. This may not be the case for all children who develop autism, but for the vast majority it is the case. I fail to understand why people like you can not accept this, when it is the reality for so many. It's different for every child, including siblings.
My oldest developed autism after one single Hep B vaccine at age 10 months of age. Up until that point he was meeting and even exceeding his developmental milestones. Things dramatically changed after that one vaccine, and within two weeks of that vaccine I came home from work to find him sitting up on the couch rocking violently. He is ten now, and mostly recovered, but damned if he doesn't still rock. Don't tell me that it wasn't the vaccine.
My younger son received the Chickenpox vaccine at age 3. Within three days, he was gone. He had received no vaccines for almost a year prior. He had always been a very active baby. After that vaccine he became pretty much non-verbal and began having absense seizures. After five years of hard work on all our parts, he too, is pretty much recovered.
As for Tylenol and the reduction of glutithione... it is definitely a contributor. Glutithione enables the body to get rid of heavy metals. For some children with a heavy load passed prenatally, or from other environmental avenues, this very well could be the thing that pushes them over the edge.
It's something different for every child, and I really get sick of people who can not or refuse to look at this with an open, yet critical mind, and realize that it's not a one size fits all situation.
P.S. Katherine - The majority of this information has been addressed recently or in previous postings here on AoA. Do your research. It's not that hard to find, or do you need to be spoon fed?
Posted by: Angela Warner | October 09, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Katherine and Steve, go sell it to Orac and the Reveres. Nobody's buying your crap anymore. Too many people from all walks of life have been damaged in a multitude of ways by vaccines -- they KNOW. WE KNOW. So quit telling us to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, OK? Give it up. It's a losing game for you. You are only making yourselves look ridiculous.
Posted by: Garbo | October 09, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Julie,
My youngest son is on the autism spectrum (PDD-NOS) He. Is. UNVACCINATED.
So... how did vaccines alter his immune system?
Posted by: Jen | October 09, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Katherine - you just don't get it. It's more than just autism that people are worried about.
I have a family riddled with auto-immune problems. Yet my sisters and I, and our cousins/extended relatives made it to adulthood before the problems presented themselves.
Fast forward: OUR kids' generation has been afflicted with problems which presented themselves very early in life. Celiac disease, Type-1 diabetes (age 6) and severe asthma/allergies.
I just don't believe this is just a coincidence or solely genetics in play. To me there seems to be a trigger.
PS: I rarely, if ever, used Tylenol when my children were small - knew even back then it could be hard on the liver.
Posted by: Angela | October 09, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Dear Jen and katherine:
The problem with vaccines, even aside from any additives or adjuvants, is that they Permanently. Alter. The. Immune. System. This is what vaccines are designed to do. They are not eliminated from the body after a period of time like a drug is. They stay. This is why they are a problem.
I do agree that Tylenol is bad news, but Tylenol is not causing this epidemic.
Posted by: julie | October 09, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Hep B is really the weak link in the vaccination schedule as there is absolutely no justification for it. Many Ob-Gyn practices routinely screen pregnant women for Hep B & C. I was tested for hep B, I had been vaccinated against hep B for my job, and I was so brainwashed it didn't occur to me to ask why my baby needed a hep B vaccine.
If people start questioning this, hopefully they will question the rest of the vaccine overload kids get. It is horrific to read Mr Belkin's story and realize nothing has changed.
Posted by: julie | October 09, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Katherine,
Have you ever asked yourself why the pediatricians stress such concern over not giving a baby peanuts too early, cow's milk too soon, strawberries, etc.? If there is such a concern over which foods to give too early then WHY THE HELL IS IT OK TO INJECT ALUMINUM, MERCURY, AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE ON A BABY's SECOND DAY OF LIFE??!!!
I am so fed up with people like you.
Posted by: Stacie | October 09, 2009 at 11:03 AM
By not vaccinating your children, you are not only putting your own children at risk, you are putting the entire community at risk of serious infection. And it isn't assuming that your baby is going to be a prostitute or anything of the sort.
If the rest of the community is vaccinated, and assuming the vaccines actually work, why should you be worried about those who choose not to? btw most people on this site did vaccinate their children.
Posted by: kn | October 09, 2009 at 10:59 AM
katherine,
You up to date on your hepatitis series? MMR? DPT? Meningococcal? Chicken pox (that confers what, a ten year or less time of "immunity")? If not, get the hell off this site, you filthy anti-vax disease-carrier.
To paraphrase "katherine" so you don't waste your time reading her snide, stupid, and patronizing little msg:
Study study study no link no link no link genetic genetic genetic science inerrant science inerrant science inerrant vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate
To see an artistic depiction with visual and audio aids, check this clip out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBSOhODoch0
Posted by: Josh | October 09, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Hey Katherine!
Why don't you head down to Atlanta today and check out the 'handful' of 'whacks' attending the DAN! conference. Let me guess...you don't know anything about it, anything about vaccines, the data, the exponentially mounting numbers of vaccine injured children, right? People like you ALWAYS spout the greatest amount of ignorance. Your banter isn't even grounded in reality or original thought. You just spit out whatever you were told 30 years ago. Thanks for the contribution.
Posted by: Adrienne | October 09, 2009 at 10:54 AM
While I'm not entirely on board with the idea that autism is purely genetic, I also don't think that thimerosal or any other component of vaccines causes it either. (I don't think it helps matters though)
How come no one mentions acetaminophen? I find that odd. Becker/Schultz recently put forth a very plausible hypothesis, and no one here is discussing it? This is the *only* hypothesis that has ever made sense to me. It fits the timeframe, and most of you already know not to give it to your kids because it depletes glutathione. Not to mention the growing pile of epidemiological evidence linking it to asthma and allergies.
Instead, some of you are still howling about thimerosal in Hepatitis vaccines?
I have anecdotal evidence staring me in the face every day that vaccines have no relation to autism, as well as a mountain of epidemiological evidence that shows no link.
Isn't it time for a new theory?
http://www.grc.nia.nih.gov/branches/rrb/dna/pubs/Becker%20and%20Schultz%202009.pdf
Posted by: Jen | October 09, 2009 at 10:53 AM
We need to stop saying our children are in an experiment. Experiments end at some point! They are being sacrificed for nothing! For profit!
Posted by: Teresa | October 09, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Katherine, is Dr. Bernadine Healy a "whack?" Love the sense of empathy exuding from you. Sounds more like fear, to me. "There is no killer behind the couch. There is no killer behind the couch. There is no killer behind the couch." WHACK.
Posted by: Stagmom | October 09, 2009 at 10:28 AM
"If this website was as critical of those studies mentioned in this post as it has been of studies which deny the vaccine autism connection I think that you would no longer be using them as examples."
So, let's turn that around, Steve. If you were as critical of the studies that supposedly exhonerate vaccines as you are of the ones that show a connection, then what?
The Oraccolytes don't pick apart the studies that supposedly exhonerate vaccines. They don't even blink an eye or see any conflicts of interest, limitations or bias. If it says it defends vaccines, it must be good.
Science is supposed to be critical. These studies are supposed to be analyzed and combed through.
Posted by: Craig Willoughby | October 09, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Study after study after study and no citations whatsoever. No date, no useful identifiers, nada. How am I supposed to believe snippets taken out of context? How am I supposed to believe that the articles actually exist as written if I can't look them up?
Autism isn't caused by a vaccine. It never has been. It has a strong _genetic_ basis and the last time I checked, vaccines don't affect your genes.
By not vaccinating your children, you are not only putting your own children at risk, you are putting the entire community at risk of serious infection. And it isn't assuming that your baby is going to be a prostitute or anything of the sort.
Good grief, there are only a few doctors that think that vaccines are a bad idea and they are considered whacks by the rest of the scientific community.
Posted by: Katherine | October 09, 2009 at 09:59 AM
Steve admonishes: Don't let your desire for answers sway your critical reasoning.
For the moment, let us just folow Steve's advice ... to exercise "critical reasoning" to honestly "answer" ... "why" newborn infants are recommended to receive this particularly "heavy duty" vaccine.
The ACIP 1991 statement establishing the official vaccination policy of the HEP B vaccine stated the strategy of vaccinating adolescents and adults engaged in high-risk behaviors, life-styles, or occupations BEFORE they become infected generally has NOT been feasible...therefore ... in the long term, universal infant vaccination would eliminate the need for vaccinating adolescents and high-risk adults.
Steve...perhaps you can apply your own "critical reasoning" and explain to me why ALL infants should be placed at risk to protect those who later in life choose unhealthy life-styles or behaviors?
As for myself...I think it unconscionable that newborn infants be required to provide "herd protection" to adolescents and adults who choose behaviors and lifestyles that put THEMSELVES at high risk.
Posted by: Bob Moffitt | October 09, 2009 at 09:27 AM
steve-
How do you skip over science to justify your provaccine stance? How do you allow the continued practice of disability and death?
"Boys who received the hepatitis B vaccine during the first month of life had 2.94 greater odds for ASD [autism] compared to later- or unvaccinated boys.”
" ...monkeys who received a Hepatitis B vaccine on the first day of life experienced a significant delay in survival reflexes versus monkeys who received a placebo."
"This study found statistically significant evidence to suggest that boys in United States who were vaccinated with the triple series Hepatitis B vaccine, during the time period in which vaccines were manufactured with thimerosal, were more susceptible to developmental disability than were unvaccinated boys."
"Engerix B vaccine for Hep B (the one my son received - and my daughter, too , J.B.) appears to increase the risk of central nervous system inflammatory demyelination."
“Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years” stated "the odds of receiving EIS [special education services] were approximately nine times as great for vaccinated boys as for unvaccinated boys after adjustment for confounders."
Posted by: Teresa Conrick | October 09, 2009 at 09:02 AM
This is the type of hubris that drives our medical 'science': "So in the CDC and ACIP's own words, almost every newborn U.S. baby is now greeted on its entry into the world by a vaccine injection against a sexually transmitted disease for which the baby is not at risk -- because they couldn't get the junkies, prostitutes, homosexuals and promiscuous heterosexuals to take the vaccine. That is the essence of the Hepatitis B universal vaccination program."
Mr. Belkin couln'd have been more convincing presenting his data. If I had read about this case before my oldest son was born in 2002, he would have never been given a Hep-B shot. As it happens, he was given the Hep-B shot the day after he was born and we were told about it after he received it, we were never asked for our consent. It makes your blood boil.
Posted by: we shall overcome | October 09, 2009 at 08:41 AM
After everything our family has been through, with Kawasaki's, strokes, seizures, mitochondria disorder, countless high fevers, reactionSSSS to DPTSSSS. Reaction to tetanus, we are now in the throws of a reaction to hep B. That makes 28 years of this crap. It is not that we are slow learners it is just we have been forced - every time.
Posted by: Benedetta | October 09, 2009 at 08:40 AM
The HepB is the one that haunts me the most with my younger child.
I have one born in '94 - didn't start the series until 4 months of age. My second one, born in '97 - started the series at birth.
Second child came home from the hospital with the worst break-out I have ever seen. Was also extremely lethargic and had trouble regulating body temp (was a big baby too).
This is also the child who seems to catch everything that comes along, and who likely has celiac disease. It took us YEARS to get at the root of the problems. Of course there was little help from our mainstream ped - we had to fly from FL to NY to see a specialist and we also spent hours with a licensed nutritionist.
I will always wonder if that shot didn't start the ball rolling on all the problems. Older child has always been so much healthier.
What changed in those three years? Was my younger child any more at risk than my older one? No. Why was the change to the vaccine schedule made in such a stealth fashion? I don't even remember being asked if the vaccine could be administered - but honestly, after you've had a baby it's hard to remember alot of things that go on in a hospital.
It will always haunt me . . . and cause me to be skeptical of Big Pharma forever.
Posted by: Angela | October 09, 2009 at 08:26 AM
Hello
I want to thank you for giving such complete information about this hepatitis b vaccine.I did not have any idea about this kind of disaster.Yes I am also agreed that this is so disturbing.
Posted by: herbe | October 09, 2009 at 08:06 AM
steve,
you are on a sinking ship and you know it.
Posted by: kn | October 09, 2009 at 08:06 AM
A couple of links to articles on the subject by Marc Girard:
'World Health Organization vaccine recommendations: scientific flaws or criminal misconduct?'
http://www.jpands.org/vol11no1/girard.pdf
'Being, or not being an idiot'
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/335/7627/950#180438
Posted by: John Stone | October 09, 2009 at 08:05 AM
Steve, don't let your need for self-validation eat away your intelligence.
Posted by: Natasa | October 09, 2009 at 07:58 AM
If this website was as critical of those studies mentioned in this post as it has been of studies which deny the vaccine autism connection I think that you would no longer be using them as examples.
Don't let your desire for answers sway your critical reasoning.
Posted by: steve | October 09, 2009 at 07:38 AM
So disturbing. This poor father and all of us - witnesses and victims because of profit. This again shows that more harm comes from this practice than protection. When will this madness end? Equally disturbing is envisioning our Congress, sitting and listening and doing nothing. The lack of care and urgency is sickening.
"They are passing off estimated, hypothetical numbers as actual cases. This is statistical fraud. In the financial world such mis-representation would lead to criminal charges." (let's add in the magical "36,000" deaths per yer from the flu here, too)
And this may be what happens as autism numbers continue to swell. Trying to heal our children, valiantly trying to prevent more harm, and yes, justice served as those responsible receive those "criminal charges". I hope I can witness that.
Posted by: Teresa Conrick | October 09, 2009 at 06:58 AM