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Bill Maher's New Rule on Swine Flu Vax

H1N1 Vaccine: So Many Questions. One Doctor Speaks Out Against It.

Fox News presents another side of the H1N1 vaccination conversation, with Dr. Kent Holtorf. Reporter asks,  "Would you give it to your kids?" Dr. responds, "Absolutely not." Reporter states that three other doctors previously on Fox had stated they would indeed vaccinate their children against H1N1.  Do your own homework. Washington State just lifted its Thimerosal ban for pregnant women and children for this vaccine. If this is a concern for you, make sure you know what's in the vaccine your doc wants to give you. Informed consent is your right.

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Megadyne

Vaccines are not as wonderful as doctors make them out to be for sure. But the swine flu vaccine did not kill more people than the swine flu itself did. Maybe more people got sick, but it was more mild.

Worried Mommy

Update from Worried Mom:

First, let me say I am a believer and I often ask for "signs" when I am having trouble in my life. Three days before this article was posted I got into an arguement with my doctor about being vaccinated. Later that afternoon, I was beginning to doubt decision and asked for a sign. Two days later a friend posted a link for this article... it was my sign. It was God's way of saying "stick to your gut" and the support/advice from everyone on here was incredible.

Today I has another check up with my doctor (the first since our fight about vaccines)... honestly, I was hoping he would forget about it but he didn't. My response was simple "I understnad that you may not agree with me, may not like my choice, and may think I'm crazy but I do not want this vaccine and I need you to respect that... even if it may be difficult."

Of course he put up a fight, threw out some horrifying statistics, and tried his best to change my mind... but I stuck to my gun and ultimately, he respected my decision!

I'm so proud of myself!!! And I'm so thankful that I was armed with evidence from this site and many others!

So thank you all!!!

kathleen

Thank you, Kathy, for the info.

Kathy Blanco

Worried Mom and others. I am sure worried mom came to some very educated decisions and I praise and honor her for that. I would think that she would be our poster mom, because it is possible to educate and debunk "what you are told" is true. That's why this forum and others are so vital. That said, we know the influence that the "experts" can have on us. For in as much of that conclusion, I came upon this lovely ditty.. The use of PR to counter negative publicity’

‘221. ………. Considerable resources are invested into building long-term, sustainable relationships with stakeholders and ‘key opinion leaders‘ and journalists. These relationships are used to promote the use of certain brands and counter concerns relating to safety. Efforts to undermine critical voices in particular were identified, under terms of “issues management”. In later evidence, in response to the ISM’s memorandum, Pfizer stated that PR is entirely legitimate and can “help to educate and inform”. According to the PMCPA, PR activities may include “placing articles in the lay press, TV documentaries, soap operas etc“.’ [p60 'The Influence of the Pharmaceutical industry' 2004 - English Parliamentary Health Select Committee report [emphasis added]]

So, you can see, all guns are being used for lies and misinformation.

But what is more telling is the individual stories, the true ones, that we have witnessed and lived before our very eyes (not the doctor belated opinion), a holocaust, a silent, insidious holocaust on our children. Perpetuated by profiteeres, do gooder naer do wells, and keep your job at all costs people.

I know it is sick of me to say this, and please don't understand me when I say, that it may be for our benefit, that some people succomb to this shot, or get ill, because maybe then, they will see what we saw, and be yet another fastly growing minority to majority of people, realizing they have been lied to. I don't wish death or pain on anyone, but, like a war, don't we have to come to the point where we get sick of the casualties, before we wake up? Perhaps more autism will emerge, more motor neuron diseases, more anaphylaxis and death. God help us all.

Worried Mommy

I just wanted to thank everyone that responded to my question!

Your opinions and suggestions have been VERY helpful!!!

After much consideration I've decided NOT to get the shot and take my chances with hand sanitizer/hand washing :)

Kathy Blanco

Apparently,the Swine Flu vaccine contains SV40,which can be found out about here = http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C9E4C714F408008E = THE SWINE FLU VACCINE = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_IF604WW7I = TEXT OF VIDEO = An Independent Assay of the Vaccine Intended for Forced Vaccinations.

Question 1. Are they planning to put in a dose of the killed virus that they are protecting us from?
Answer- No, that "Swine Flu" is not present in the batch.

Question 2. What small dose virus is in the mix?
Answer- Simian Virus #40 (used before in vaccines associated with
the first HIV outbreaks in Africa in the 1980's) It is tested to be live.

Question 3. Any bacteria?
Answer- Unfortunately yes. We all tested that the bacteria present was Yersinia pestis.
This is tested to be live. If you Google it you will find that it's common name is the Black Plague.
The other bacteria was an engineered strain of Clostridium difficile, tested live,
which was famous for many hospital outbreaks of intestinal infections.

Question 4. Any parasites?
Answer- Yes. Leishmania major, live, which can cause skin rashes.
It is common, especially in small children to develop rashes after being vaccinated.

Question 5. What else did you find?
1. A radioactive element: Radium. This common element
has been used in watches and other kinds of dials as it glows in the dark.
Radium is attracted to the lymph nodes, adrenals, and pituitary.
It is tested to decay into Polonium, a highly carcinogenic radioactive
element during a persons lifetime. The authorities may also want to
use this for a marker to ascertain who was vaccinated.
2. The metal Mercury. This element gravitates toward the brain and other nervous tissues,
and has been implicated in Autism, ALS, MS, and Alzheimers.

Question 6. Anything else?
DNA splicing. Human tissue DNA is spliced into a microorganism,
this being Leishmania. In effect this makes for continuous and stubborn skin outbreaks and irritation.

How reliable this is, I don't know, but I don't put it past these creeps.

bek

Dear Worried Mommy,
If you look at the odds of a person your age dying of the flu, pregnant or not, it is extremely low. Also, it is not a guarantee you will get the flu without the shot, or a guarantee you won't get it with the shot. So, if I were in your shoes, which I was 3 times, I would just say no thank you. Oh and do more research, starting with the ingredients. I bet if you quiz the doctors/nurses they are pretty darn clueless about that. Go to the CDC.gov website. Good luck to you!

michael framson

Dear Worried Mommy,

Perhaps an equally appropriate question would be "Did any moms get the flu vaccine while pregnant and have a child with a chronic health condition, learning disability, neurological disorder, allergy(especially to one of the vaccine ingredients), eczema,etc."

That would be a good question to ask the doctor to provide you with all the studies which address this very important question.

In the meantime, make a list of all the things you are currently doing (and will do) to keep yourself and your child healthy and "affirm" those whenever necessary.

Don't be pressured and don't make decisions based on fear.

Hope this is helpful.

Holy Moly

Unbelievable, finally its an infectious diseases guy who gets it. Finally!!

It also crossed my mind, since its the infectious diseases people who get this, shouldn't they be the ones sitting on the immunization advisory panels rather than greedy assholes like Offit.

Sorsha

"informed consent is your right" well, sure, unless you are in the healthcare field in NY.

ginnie

it's surreal enough to see this on mainstream news, but it's completely disorienting to see it on fox news?! has someone figured out what incentive fox news has for showing this? is this some way to attack the obama admin or something due to the threat of govt. vax-related mandates & the public option or something? i don't care which or if all politicians have to go down with the exposure of big pharma and their vax-related crimes, i would just love to know what's going on here. are we sure this isn't really "the onion" pretending to be fox news or something?

C.A. Bouthillier

Vaccines were developed under the cover (lie) they will protect from harmful viruses and bacteria, and were never needed and are another fraud perpetrated on the people. Harmful viruses and bacteria thrive and replicate in the blood types A, B & O, which have blood pH that has deviated away from a neutral pH of 7.00. A neutral blood pH of 7.00 destroys/removes harmful bacteria and viruses. The blood type AB is the normal healthy blood type with a neutral pH of 7.00 and has normal DNA and immune system.
Vaccination is in fact the most effective and efficient method to transport poisons more directly into the liver, to displace and deplete copper from that location. The liver is where much of the blood proteins (and other proteins) are synthesized and is where the greatest percentage of copper is stored. Copper is vital in protein synthesis. Vaccine poisons settle and accumulate in the liver depleting and displacing copper, thereby causing a mineral imbalance and deviation from a 7.00 pH, resulting in malformed and missing proteins. The imbalance is reflected in acidic blood (type B) or alkaline blood (types A & O), depending on individual propensity of the mineral imbalance, i.e., toward acidic or alkaline.

Please see for further explanation:
http://www.unveilingthem.com/PoisoningOfMankindCopperDeficiency.htm

C.A. Bouthillier

Josh Day

Worried mommy,

If you're able, fire that doctor. No patient should ever feel like they have to "fight" a caregiver. If he or she is pressuring you about anything, that's a big sign they're not giving you proper care. Would you stick around with a car mechanic who intimidated/pressured you into getting something for your car that you felt would ultimately damage it?

If you're stuck with the guy, hold fast to your decision. Look him in the eye and say no. Then straight up tell him the discussion is over and maybe even remind him who's paying who.

Whatever you do, do not give in to him if you have even the slightest doubt about what he's pushing -- that goes for any treatment, not just a flu shot. Unfortunately, not just in vaccines but in so many aspects of medicine, informed consent has been snatched away from us and in its place is manipulation tactics and misinformation.

Jill

It was wonderful to hear the real truth about how toxic the Thimerasol load is in the vaccine come out of a doctor's mouth as well as him stating that there was a link between Thimerasol and autism. Here is the link. It should work as I just tried it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw

elisha

finally a doctor says the truth here!

this is the exact conversation i had with my husband about this vaccine. very scary that government on different levels is trying to push this quickly at the population at large. where i live there has been talk about vaccinating sites being in the schools so that every student can easily get the vaccine.

Julianne Boise

I was able to access the video via YouTube this morning.
Worried Mommy - do NOT get the vaccine, just practice good handwashing, etc. and hopefully you will stay well. I have a friend in NC whose son got it, and then "gave" it to her and her daughter. She said it is not too bad, and definitely managable with Advil.
I am with Allie on this one - just spread the word one person at a time and help people get informed !

Terri Lewis

Worried mommy,

You already know the answer!

Be strong,

Terri Lewis

kathleen

Kathy, if you have a chance, I would love the link to the C-Diff discovery...

Thanks

Heather Chaney

I am so ashamed to live in WA state. So much for my left coast haven.

Libby

Holy crud! (actual expletive removed :) Who is this guy and where has he been hiding?

Finally someone in the medical establishment who has actually read the studies for themselves.

Jen

Too bad it was on fox news..

Allie90

Slowly one by one, I've been on a mission. Telling parents out in public, about the risks,and how to find information on the
Internet, books, and so on. Just this summer I have been able to help 12 families
not to vaccinate their newborn's, how to opt out of vaccinating any of their children. These families are open, they been hearing things in the media, and they need straight talk from us. They need to know where to find the information, and how to talk to their family DR's. They need someone on the inside, that us parents who been battling for our own ASD kids. Take a minute to talk to a Mom to be, and see if you can help make the world safer, healthier for one more child.

Bonnie

Kathy - do you have a link for the scientist who found yersinia pestis and clostridium deficile?

Thanks!

worried mommy

Just out of curosity... did any mom's get the flu vaccine while pregnant and have a child with autism?
I'm pregnant, have family members with autism, and am being pressured by my doctor to get the regular flu and the H1N1 vaccine... I'm not sure if I should give in or keep fighting him.
Thanks!

Concerned Professional

Thanks to God,ONE honest Doctor who speaks the truth. Let him run FDA and CDC and get the other loosers out from there.

Melissa D

Has anyone else tried to find it on FOX news site or YOUTUBE? I couldn't. Has it been pulled?

Avery's mom

OMG!!! He actually said all that on TV!! That is so unreal, I just hope LOTS of people were watching!!!

Richard

The Fox commentator also sounded for sure like he was not buying the crap that mercury is not related to autism and that vaccines are wonderful and safe. I think he speaks for lots of the public at large. They do not trust the pharma and government bull crap like they used to.

Bre

Wow, saw it live yesterday, he rocks, but has it been pulled b/c it doesn't work, there's a surprise, it got yanked so we can't share it.

kathleen

Entering the Twilight Zone, or would that be leaving it?
....blink, blink...rubbing eyes...shaking head....did I really just see/hear that?

Wow.

Kathy Blanco

You won't change the mindset of a vaccinating mom, there minds are set. But, you can tell your story, and the story of others, show them the ingredients, and illustrate, a gun shell...would you shoot up your child with that, then why would you shoot them with thimerosol mercury, aluminum, NONOXYNOL 9 (in the swine flu jab folks, yes, spermacide), and SQUALENE, the known adjuvent used in gulf war vets who are now very ill. Then top that off with a scientist who took random samples and found Yersinia Pestis in samples (yes, the Black Plague) and also Clostridium Deficile, yes, the hospital infection that kills people. Ask them if that is something they want floating in their babies bodies, let alone a mother who is pregnant.

rileysmom

Yea Twyla WOW!!!!
Dr Holtorf for PRESIDENT!!!

Benedetta Stilwell

It is the KD Forum Joe
New person in that forum besides me and maybe can save a child's life!

Now I got to go beat my daughter and get her to come listen to this before she decides to get her Swine flu vaccine

Cathy Jameson

I listened to this a few times, 'rewound' certain statements again to really register everything the doctor was saying. Phenomenal!

Benedetta Stilwell

Will some body please slide this over to the KD Foundation site. There are several mothers planning on vaccinating the very first of October! They Won't listen to me and kind of snotty!

Judith

THANK YOU Dr Holtorf! Finally we have an expert who is educated and willing to speak up and speak out!
Thank you Fox for airing this piece! I just hope people listen to him!

chrissie

Dr. Holtorf for Surgeon General!!

Twyla

Wow!

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