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Lil Jonny

Cl + O3 → ClO + O2 followed by ClO + O → Cl + O2

Benedetta Stilwell

Look up Junk science under ozone layer. I do feel that air and water should be kept clean, but there is a point were the pendulum can swing in the other direction and we could end back in the stone age or worse - in the time of surfdom. I fear that there are special interest groups that have poised themselves to take advantage of the environmental issus and we could be in trouble with heavy regulation from environmental groups just as we are now under the vaccine industry.

John Fryer Chemist

Hi Benedetta,

Wikipedia on Ozone Depletion tells the quick and edited version of the history.

Discovered in 1956 and then by many others and finally admitted in 1976.

But there is clear evidence that no one outside "high circles" knew of it for nearly two decades.

Today, the article tells us that it doesn't contribute "much" to global warming and this is where cover up continues now for 50 years as in every field where man has caused death, harm and illness.

If you look you will see putting H in front of CFC makes them "safe".

It's the same story as with methyl mercury is a killer but ethyl mercury is a brain improver.

We are not dealing with scientists but mass murderers who still continue to put organomercury in vaccines while telling the world its been out for ten years. Thimerosal is totally unacceptable in any vaccine and must be banned effectively and completely.

In the ozone world how many cancer deaths come from the manufacture of these compounds and a Nobel Prize even for the person that first made them.

A Nobel Prize for helping to make our world unsafe?!

Ammonia actually does the job much better with only limited harm if someone is careless. An ammonia leak will soon be noticed and remedied without recourse to modern science that takes half a century to realise whats going on. Or in this case half a century to prove they haven't again a single clue of what's going on.

Benedetta Stilwell

If they bring back the heavy glass bottles then it means more gas use and more C02 production in delivering them to your local store. Beside milk jugs HDPEs are only long chains of nothing but carbon, nothing else.
The CFCS were highly regulated out of existance. In their place were they could be replaced sthey used C02. What proof did scientists claim they had that the ozone layer was being destroyed? There was a hole in the ozone at the south pole. Never mind that it takes sunlight- energy to cause three oxygen atoms to combine (ozone), that was not in their equation. Never mind that at the bottom of the world at certain times of the year there is not much sunlight. Now the government (who is making us take vaccines, and hiding the heatlh problems caused by them) gets to tax us for a little freon when we try to fix our cooling systems. Soon they will get to tax us for heating ourselves in the winter too.

John Fryer Chemist

COTWO that's meant to be carbon dioxide.

And the "myth" of global warming.

CFC's removed our ozone layer and this fact was hidden from the public for 18 years.

But it has nothing to do with burning fuels et al and as the amount of carbon dioxide is miniscule at 0.03 per cent and fairly innocuous at this level and a non problem.

Carbon dioxide can easily be "fixed" in many ways so the amount is self limiting. Eg made into calcium carbonate solid for example.

But if the temperature rises, the water holds less gases in solution hence more appears in the air.

Its basic physics or science in action.

Carbon dioxide is the "thermometer" but not the "driving force" of any global changes.

Blame it on scientists who invented and used and still do use CFC's if you like but let's not blame carbon dioxide the goody in all this that gives us an immediate and accurate measure of any warming and or cooling. Cheaper than going to the arctic or antarctic but then a nice trip for those scientists no doubt to reward them for their science of producing CFC's, pesticides, cancer forming aspartame, vaccines to make us allergic to everything from peanuts to milk and bread products et al.

I wonder what their next and best scientifc goof will be?

My bet is on compulsory swine flu. Made and produced by - you guessed it

"scientists!" Cough, splutter, falls on floor laughing.

John Fryer Chemist

Barry mentions a good point. Plastic bottles. If what he says is true then you should be able to film this in action, if anyone wants or has a video camera.

I get very nervous about plastic containers and much prefer glass.

Water from the tap is know to contain pesticides but how much better is bottled water when sold in plastic bottles?

Sad to say the science today like our health in general seems to get worse day by day.

Looking at the proposed "removal" of aspartame recently - I discovered that far from getting rid of this cancer producer that in Canada they are banning drinks with pure sugar and you can only buy cancer producing drinks from the autumn.

I did pinch myself and am fairly certain I am still alive and not in some fairy land.

Which reminds me that the best USA health care today can guarantee you live to reach fifty.

Or should it be guarantee you won't pass 50?

I seem to have passed this test by a mile and my outlay for chemical drugs and vaccines over the past 30 years is exact, round and zero.

But please bring back glass bottles!

Barry Morse

Please follow this hypothesis:
Plastic is the cause of the rapid rise in autism.
The human brain works primarily by electrical energy. Plastic is an excellent insulator. Plastics photo-degrade; they get smaller but remain as plastic. During the time of fetal neural development, at the moment that the nerves should make connection, they are blocked from doing so by a piece of plastic. I believe the autistic mind produces the same amount of electrical energy and that energy has fewer areas of diffusion. This is evidenced by the heightening the various senses experienced by the autistic individual. Note the rapid rise in autism in the last twenty years and consider the time it would take for the plastics to infiltrate our ecosystem or the direct ingestion of photo-degraded liquid by pregnant women.
The easiest way to see this is to take a plastic bottle of drinking water and freeze it. Let it thaw and sit. Turn it upside down, turn it into the light and see the shiny plastic particles descend in the water that you are about to drink.
I believe that this hypothesis bears investigation.

Benedetta Stilwell

Science has been taken over by special interest and politics.

AND it is not just the issue of vaccines are most certainly the cause of autism.

....But other things too. Like: "Scientic American" once my favorite magazine had an environmental article written by an economist! An economist of all things that flys back and forth from the east cost as some sort of banker and the west coast to work on his phd.

He said that eating beef was causing increase in CO2 levels. Cows eat corn and thus the corn fields for half the year lays dorment and not taking in CO2 andthen giving off O2. Doesn't he know that farmers plant winter crops to hold the soil during the winter, and even if it was not EVEN grass or trees-don't do much gas exchange in the winter time.

He also said that cows give off CO2 because they burp (four stomachs and all). Doesn't he know that buffalo also had four stomachs and there were many more of them than cattle!. The plains (which is now in corn and wheat) woods of the north east were once full of buffalo. Cattle are not managed and fenced, most are on grass pastures, and only a little time in feed lots!

So now it is a sin to eat beef and they want to tax it with a carbon footprint tax.

And while they are at it - lets us blame the environment so that vaccine gets a free pass.

Sorry it has been a tiresome day. But it all stinks.

Cynthia Cournoyer

I believe there is an effort to appease the people concerned about autism. The studies upcoming, mentioned by Mr. Kirby, sound like they will be looking at ALL environmental influences. It is a perfect set up to finally conclude that autism is due to pollution. Period. End of Problem.

Unless people living near coal fired plants are the CONTROL group, there is no science. Will they study UNvaccinated children living near coal fired plants? Will the "pollution" in vaccines be uncovered, or lumped in with the rest? Insult to injury.
Cynthia Cournoyer


I listened; it's another good one about the various studies going on. Coy Barefoot said that some time back he'd been told there are "powerful forces" in Washington who don't want autism studied. I believe David aptly responded that now the horse is out of the barn....

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