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Iwo jima By Kent Heckenlively, Esq.

In light of the $75 million stripped from the Combating Autism Act of 2006 to study environmental contributions to autism and our public losses in the Vaccine Court I want to give voice to a question which keeps bubbling to the surface despite my recent pessimism.  Are we actually starting to win the vaccine-autism war in the eyes of the public?

The Larry King show of April 3, 2009 was a watershed moment for our community in which the host put us on an equal footing with that part of the medical community which even to this day denies there is an autism “epidemic.”  The best of the medical community was represented by Dr. Bernadine Healy, former director of the National Institute of Health who calmly expressed the frustration of many parents that the safety studies on vaccinated and unvaccinated children have not been done and that the question of whether vaccines contribute to autism is far from closed.  I was also pleased that in the poll conducted on Larry’s web-site after the show, asking the question of whether autism can be “cured” was a 50-50 split.  That's an enormous sea-change of public opinion since the medical community claims autism cannot be “cured.”  The ranks of the rebels are growing.

But aside from what takes place on the public stage, I wanted to comment on some truly surprising things I’ve experienced in the past couple days.  At one of the schools at which I teach there’s a fifth-grade teacher who’s always been interested in what I have to say about autism.  I recently passed some information on to her and she was very thankful to receive it.

I commented I was so appreciative she didn’t treat me like I was a crazy person and she gave me a kind of funny look.  “Why would I think that?”  I shared with her a couple of my experiences with friends and family members and she couldn’t believe it.

She then went on to tell me about an autistic student she had several years ago who started on bio-medical protocols and had made amazing progress.  In her group of friends the topic of vaccinations was a hot one, but nobody really seemed comfortable that they had the answer.  The teacher went on to tell a story about how her mother was a two-pack a day smoker and not surprisingly, all three of her children were born pre-mature.  “Today, nobody would ever think of even taking a puff while they were pregnant.  I think in the future we’ll look back on how we give our vaccines now as barbaric.”

I couldn’t believe these sentiments coming from a “civilian” in the vaccine-autism wars, but they did.

An old friend recently came back into my life and sought my advice on her son who was recently diagnosed with having Asperger’s syndrome.  My friend’s sister is a toxicologist, and predictably thought my ideas were loony, but my friend still went to the DAN doctor I suggested, and put her son and the entire family on a gluten/casein-free diet.  The son has gone from getting constant negative reports from school and on the edge of being kicked out of his private school to getting citizenship awards.  (I know they still have a long way to go, but early indications are good.)

I sent her a copy of my recent article to this friend about how bringing up the subject of vaccines and autism seems to kill any further conversation (“The Big Fart”) and she was honestly puzzled by it.  “When I bring up the vaccine connection and the diet and other things to the other mothers in my son’s play-group they're all interested in it,” she said. “I haven’t had any of the sorts of reaction you’re talking about.”

I think I might have an explanation which embraces both what many of us have experienced, as well as what my fellow teacher and old friend have found.  It’s said that when new ideas are presented that many people resist.  They get stuck in their views.  But as a new generation comes on the scene they’re more willing to look at controversial ideas.  It’s not so much that the people who were against the new idea change, but that new people come to the controversy with a fresh set of eyes.

For those of us who have been fighting this war for so many years, it’s unlikely that our family members or long-time friends will change their opinions.  But more people are beginning to look at the questions we’ve raised, and they're more open to it.

In closing I thought I’d mention an article from Santa Rosa’s “The Press Democrat”.  (“Sonoma County at Center of Anti-Vaccine Debate”, March 28, 2009)  According to the article, Sonoma County is becoming a hot-bed of anti-vaccine sentiment.  (Sonoma County is the county between Napa County, famous for its great wines, and Marin County, notorious for its wealth, liberal values, hot tubs, and general weirdness.)  Their investigation found that “Of the 13 schools in the state with the highest percentage of kindergartners with exemptions from vaccination requirements, three are in Sebastopol.  Of the 50 schools with the highest rates of exemption, six are in Sonoma County, and two are in Marin.”  This goes along with the CDC’s own investigation of those most likely to not vaccinate their children are highly educated parents.

In the past it was believed autism was a problem which only affected the children of professional people. Those who claim vaccines as a trigger for autism assert this was true at the time because those who got vaccines for their children were the highly educated, who tend to be early adopters of new medical procedures.  As vaccine programs became more available to the general public through government-supported programs this disparity began to change.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the same group which led us into autism was the same one which led us out of it?

Kent Heckenlively is the Legal Editor of Age of Autism



Thanks especially, Kent, for pointing out in your article that 'in the beginning' autism was, curiously, occurring primarily amongst "the children of professional people", etc. This is a clue to its origins that needs to be reiterated again and again.

Not that vaccines alone are the cause. As Dan has pointed out, amongst the early cases were those of parents with some connection with fungicides/mercury/farming. And in our day and age, there appears to be a link with cell phone towers, the radiation from which increases oxidative stress, lowers glutathione levels, and impairs immune function. The main point: apparently the autism community is going to have to raise the money to fund further research along these lines. In the meantime: Parents of kids on the spectrum: besides working with biomeds, get mobile phones etc out of the house. They can well be contributing to the danger. (EMFs help bind heavy metals.)

Angela Hazlehurst

Hi Kent!! This is soo off subject but I have a video I would like to show you as well as a happy story! Despite our loss in
court, we do have good things happening here in West TN. Would you mind giving me a call???? 731-499-4088

Autism Grandma

Regarding the "Vaccine-Autism War", history shows us that all governments and military leaders utilize propaganda in order to gain the willing cooperation of the masses. However, in spite of this the truth eventually comes to light, as more and more people come to the realization that the official party line does not reflect reality.

While researching yesterday I landed in the frontlines of a pro-vaccine blog, while usually I avoid these enemy camps like the plague (that they are). I really get my dander up when I see by the comments that these blog propagandists are quite effective in "leading the sheep to the slaughter", but I have never shared my thoughts with the enemy until now. I saw a correlation between the Autism War and the war with Germany in World War II. It was the following statement in big letters at the top of the blog that just set me off:

"Vaccinations do not cause autism. How many times does one need to say this?"

Repeating the same phrase over and over and over again is a well known brainwashing and propaganda technique and can be quite effective judging from all of the people who are parroting this statement. However continually repeating the same thing does not make it true. Example: Hitler continually repeated that the "Jews were an inferior race" and that the "Jews were the cause of Germany's problems" and that the "Jews needed to be exterminated." This continual repetition of the Nazi Party Line was indeed quite effective in causing many people to believe that this was the "truth", however obviously it is NOT THE TRUTH.

.....We human beings are simply written off in the Risk to Benefit ratio, with the bottom line being the Almighty Dollar. This information is all over the place and every day more shit is hitting the fan with more and more people figuring out the truth. The truth is being revealed day by day. It is only a matter of time before the shit REALLY hits the fan, and I look forward to that day when this fan is reversed and this shit is all over the vaccine industry. Sadly for the time being, their shit has landed on over a million children with autism in the U.S. alone, not to mention 1 in 6 children now with neurological/developmental disabilities.

[Excuse my "french", but I am starting to understand why Jenny McCarthy swears... The more I am exposed to the enemy's lies and deceptive tactics, the more my anger gets translated into the french language.]

Maureen O

I think people are scared to know how really bad it is and if it didn't effect their home directly they don't want to know. I have found my message has been much better received when I say things without too much emotion and keep the conversation light hearted. VERY HARD.. when i am strident and confrontational people avoid me AND THE MESSAGE...
I think it is important to realize people don't know what we know and are doing the best they can. Give a little information don't dump. I always ask people that in 1983 before we even talked about autism our kids would get 10 shots before going to school and say for all the big diseases like polio etc.. then I ask them how many they get now? Nobody has come even close and they look on their face is priceless. Then I give them jenny's website and stay friendly and happy. Obviously this is a lot easier since my child is doing well. Much harder for those who are in the throes of new or relentless autism.
But the grim reality is when the next wave of young adults who are less nourished , more toxic and they have added more vaccines have children there will be no denying.

Cynthia Cournoyer

There is definitely more main-stream attention to the controversy about vaccines and autism, due only to the shear numbers of children diagnosed. However, to suggest that we are winning is another thing entirely. We will win when other chronic diseases get as much deserved association with over-vaccinating. We will win, when whether to vaccinate is a true choice, made freely and with information. When it becomes "normal" for children to remain completely unvaccinated. As long as vaccination rates for children entering kindergarten is close to 99%, then we are not winning. We will win as soon as autism enjoys a steep decline in a short time. There is no motivation in the medical community to stop vaccinating or to solve the autism "mystery." Meanwhile, don't let your guard down because we are enjoying a little attention.
Cynthia Cournoyer

Amanda Blinn

Thank you for your article; it makes me feel more hopeful. Our neighbors have seen our son progress from severely affected (unable to walk, constant drooling, no speech) to now able to attend a special needs school, able to walk AND run, able to use some speech) but deny their nephew has the same problems, because he has a different dx. They all camped out at Children's Hospital in Seattle DEMANDING a non-autism dx, and finally (6 weeks later) got a "mitochondrial" dx. I told the husband (he's a lawyer and his wife is a dr. who does diabetes research) to check out the news about mito disease and autism, but his eyes glazed over. I wonder if they don't want to believe it's autism because of all the lies that "it's genetic." Their two kids are OK and they're still able to close their eyes about their nephew because he's only 5 years old. I hope they will at least call us when they're looking for a good special needs school. On a more hopeful note, another friend of mine, a young mom-to-be, just called and asked me what I thought about the Sears book and is going to read it through. I think you're right about a new generation being much more careful about vaccines.


Thanks for these encouraging words, Kent, which are like much needed balm to the soul.

Lots of interesting comments too, including ObjectiveAutismDad quoting Max Planck.

Dan E. Burns

I missed The Larry King show of April 3, 2009. Is it possible to view it on, YouTube, or elsewhere?


I am getting calls from teacher groups to present on autism & ADHD recovery using biomedical interventions. Teachers are asking about diets, supplements and vaccines, because many of them are having children. The word is definitely out about 'vaccine safety' and our side far outnumbers the mainstream now.


I watched the show on Friday and was happy with Dr Berandine Healy, she's truly open minded. I am following Dr Sears' delayed vaccine schedule, and actually switched doctors to one who listed his name on Dr Sears website.
The new Doctor wanted to give my 4 month old twins the CDC recommended 5 shots at once and yelled at me for delaying them
( They are given at 4 months) and he said "Dr Sears is an idiot" twice or thrice. He literally kicked me out of his clinic!
I wonder if any pediatricians are watching these shows, it's time they did.

Dan, tx

I think it is important to understand the history of the vaccine safety debate. The parents have won/ lost this debate over and over and over again many times since 1797. I suspect the first time parents started to question the vaccine program was in 1855 when Massachusetts was the first state to adopt mandatory vaccination laws.

My point is that when we next win the vaccine safety debate we need to capitalize on the moment and take control/ownership of the vaccine program. It is the people's vaccine program and NOT the vaccine industries. We The People need a strong vaccine program focused on safety, efficacy, common sense, and overall health outcomes. Not a vaccine program focused solely on profits and disease eradication.

What should the people expect from a vaccine program that is a government backed monopoly with a mandatory liability shield?

Kathy Blanco

IMHO, this I am not anti vaccine stance, has and will continue this epidemic. Call it what you will, I don't call that zealotry to say you are anti vaccine, or anti toxin, or anti mandmade manipulated viruses...I call that true american..who has woken up to the agenda at hand, and sees the industry for what it is, disease promoting.


I do believe that public opinion has significantly faltered in our nations vaccination program. Not only through the activism by families of children with autism but also through some of the very poor moves of the program itself, such as Hep B at birth, chicken pox vaccine etc. Public awareness is now great and the promise of funds for research has never been better. Isn't it time for a very large concerted effort from both the autism community and the general public to create a non-threatening petition for the basic science research of the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated? I personally believe it best to steer clear of the
Amish communities because they have had a relatively stagnant gene pool for hundreds of years and I think it would be impossible to convince scientists who at this point beleive very strongly in the genetics of autism using an Amish based study. A study like this would indicate how much relevance vaccination has to autism and I think the general public would without a pause consider it to be one of the most sensible things to do considering the huge debate.

Craig Willoughby

I performed an interesting experiment a few months ago. I have a co-worker who was a vaccine defender. She's read all of the news stories, listen to the doctors' and pediatricians' propaganda, and was downright convinced that there was no association between vaccines and autism. We talked about it several times, and I was able to point out the numerous fallacies in the can-fed arguments that are dribbled down through the masses.

The icing on the cake, though, was when I said that the main reason that I am convinced that the vaccine-autism connection has merit, other than the lack of science that proves there is no connection, was the way the Church of the Immaculate Vaccination treats any people it considers heretics...I mean "anti-vaccine." They are so rabid, so irrational in their defense that the only thing they can resort to is baseless insults and mindless repetition. She didn't believe me. So, I showed her the hate site of a certain "Doctor" we all know and loathe (Orac) and asked her to read 2 of his slander-filled blog-vomit posts and the comments associated with them. She returned about 30 minutes later and apologized for ever disagreeing with me. She started reading the research from our point of view, and now she pretty much agrees with me concerning vaccines and autism.

The problem is the Doctors, the people we are supposed to trust. They have lost that trust, and continue to do so with all of their repeated insults to parents who are justifiably angry at what has been done to our children. They are doing our work for us, turning people away with their close minded and dogmatic science-as-religion. If we can only get more people to look at the studies that we have done, then we will win. But, right now, these whipped and running-scared little doctor-wannabes (Orac) have a monopoly on most of this information, and they can choose to distribute whatever studies and information that supports their failing position.



I think you are correct. I asked one of my highly educated, childless friends what she thought about Larry King's show on Friday. Specifically, if she thought our side was a bunch of nuts and she said "not at all" and that if she were pregnant or had a baby she would definitely get on the internet and do a bunch of research. She was very curious as to why we give more shots than other first world countries and she said that "that neurologist was a "complete ass."

Media Scholar


You are on the right track.

Reposted from earlier:

The tyrannical reign of the vaccine marketplace is just that. A power in constant peril to dominate or die.

Look at the headlines. "Anti-vaccine parents dealt a blow" whether or not we hold that position NOW isn't clear, but name three people in America smart enough to think "there's no way these people could be anti-vaccine and claim their children had been vaccine-injured."

While Dan was reading about Chess, my favorite reading subject was our Revolution.

Right now is as good a time as any to remoblize the tried and true axioms.

In the darkest time of Valley Forge George Washington had the following from Thomas Paine read aloud to the remaining troops:

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.

Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER," and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.

I have as little superstition in me as any man living, but my secret opinion has ever been, and still is, that God Almighty will not give up a people to military destruction, or leave them unsupportedly to perish, who have so earnestly and so repeatedly sought to avoid the calamities of war, by every decent method which wisdom could invent. Neither have I so much of the infidel in me, as to suppose that He has relinquished the government of the world, and given us up to the care of devils; and as I do not, I cannot see on what grounds the king of Britain can look up to heaven for help against us: a common murderer, a highwayman, or a house-breaker, has as good a pretence as he.

'Tis surprising to see how rapidly a panic will sometimes run through a country. All nations and ages have been subject to them. Britain has trembled like an ague at the report of a French fleet of flat-bottomed boats; and in the fourteenth [fifteenth] century the whole English army, after ravaging the kingdom of France, was driven back like men petrified with fear; and this brave exploit was performed by a few broken forces collected and headed by a woman, Joan of Arc. Would that heaven might inspire some Jersey maid to spirit up her countrymen, and save her fair fellow sufferers from ravage and ravishment! Yet panics, in some cases, have their uses; they produce as much good as hurt. Their duration is always short; the mind soon grows through them, and acquires a firmer habit than before. But their peculiar advantage is, that they are the touchstones of sincerity and hypocrisy, and bring things and men to light, which might otherwise have lain forever undiscovered. In fact, they have the same effect on secret traitors, which an imaginary apparition would have upon a private murderer. They sift out the hidden thoughts of man, and hold them up in public to the world."

I think this is appropriate.

"Wisdom is not the purchase of a day, and it is no wonder that we should err at the first setting off. From an excess of tenderness, we were unwilling to raise an army, and trusted our cause to the temporary defence of a well-meaning militia. A summer's experience has now taught us better;"


My personal experience matches up perfectly with this article.

In '06, when my daughter began biomedical treatment people looked at me as if I had 2 heads when I made any comment of concerns regarding vaccines, especially among my daughters preschool crowd.

By '08 the climate among the same preschool crowd had changed dramatically. The topic came up several times in my daughter's pre-k year. Sometimes I brought it up, sometimes it was another parent. But when the topic did arise, Mom's were very curious, open and inquisitive. And the comment I heard most often went something like this, "Well we've followed the entire schedule but I just don't understand why there are so many vaccines and I keep thinking we're all done but every time we go to the doctor we find there is yet another vaccine that's been added and that we have to do. It really worries me but what am I supposed to do?"

Our family recently moved to a new community where my daughter is now in kindergarten. I have found the same concerns and open mindedness here. The most surprising part is that I am finding the principal and teachers are having the same conversations and the school has openly accepted our waiver with full support (though I realize this is still far from the norm).

I believe the climate is absolutely changing but parents have no idea how to deal with their concerns because they don't see that they have a choice where vaccination is concerned and their pediatricians know less about the debate than they do.

I also am finding that knowledge of a special diet and biomed treatment for autism are becoming common knowledge in my south Alabama community although access to mainstream treatment here is (ABA and OT)deplorable.

Holly M.

There is nothing worse than when you find yourself in an "I told you so" moment. I never say ITYS but play dumb and then go on to suggest diet, etc. However, I find that the same people who I warned about the vaccines whos kids are now damaged by vaccination ignore my biomed suggestions as well. They cart their kids from every dev ped, neurologist, etc. These are folks who have seen my kids before and after. They just trust these doctors so much. I saw one of the kids run out into the street with cars coming. I said, "My daughter used to do that before biomedical intervention." She said nothing.


Kent, I daresay we are winning the war in this time of over-vaccination. I think there are a few reasons for this. For one, people will protect their children with all that they've got. Babies are ours; we made them. And so we have every motivation to want them to be safe, healthy. The other thing we have going for us is that people will question something when/if there seems to be a kernel of truth in what we hear. It makes sense to us that too many injected substances for our babies may be harmful and that if an illness/virus can harm the brain, so too could a virus within a vaccine. This is not rocket science. It sure doesn't hurt that, increasingly, many neurologists, DAN doctors etc. are also on our side.

Maurine Meleck

It was only a couple of years ago that we first heard on tv the words autism and vaccines in the same sentence. I remember sreaming out loud over and over again in disbelief. Then look at Larry King's show on friday. We've come a long way, baby. For me this started with the NVIC Conference in 2000 and with the reading of the paper on vaccines and autism co-authored by Lyn Redwood. Been a long 9 years, but I'm feeling the journey, the pain, and the progress.



Very encouraging words... Thank you.

I found the following quote in the first book I read on autism about 15 years ago ("The Ultimate Stranger"):

"It is one of the most painful experiences of my entire scientific career that I have seldom -- in fact, I might say never -- succeeded in obtaining universal recognition for a new result, the truth of which I could demonstrate by a conclusive but only theoretical proof. ...A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponenet and making them see the light; but it triumphs because its opponents finally die off, leaving a new generation that is familiar with the new idea."
--Max Planck

I'd say I hope it doesn't take a generation, but we're about halfway there since we really started making noise.

David Kirby

"I have a friend who lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, where the topic of conversation at the school playground is which vaccines you will "choose" to give your child."

I live in Park Slope myself, and I can vouch for this - the parents I know have MAs and PhDs and MDs and JDs -- they all work at top jobs in Manhattan and make very good incomes. They read the NYT and the Economist and the WSJ and Discover Magazine - they are very pro-science, and very pro-health care and very-pro vaccine (and very pro-Obama, of course)-- but for many of them, there is no way they will let bureacrats at the CDC decide which shots, and when, their kids will get. They make their own decisions very very carefully after lots of consultations, including with their pediatricians. They are as far from fringe as it gets - these are the people who help run the banks and universities and media companies and publishing firms of America - they are educated consumers --- they spend weeks chosing the right car seat, why wouldn't they do they same for vaccines?


The reality is the other side is fighting a losing battle. You can not win a war when the other army is growing in size and organization. Unfortunately for every new child that is diagnosed with autism, we have a new recruit.

Anne Dachel


You are absolutely right! The people out there like Paul Offit, Max Wiznitzer, and Margaret Fisher are like those who defended cigarettes in the face of growing evidence that smoking caused lung cancer. It's not to be expected that these doctors who've publicly laid their reputations on the line vouching for the safety of vaccines will ever back down.

They will however become more and more irrelevant.

The autism numbers are simply too horrible to continue to ignore. For far too long we've allowed officials to pretend that having a generation of sick children was normal and acceptable. While doctors like Fisher harp on vaccines preventing disease, they show no real concern about why so many children have a lifelong disability like autism.

It's incredible that the AAP and the CDC refuse to honestly and seriously look into biomedical treatment and diet to recover autistic children. Where is the alarm over reports of so many children who are perfectly normal and suddenly regress and lose learned skills following vaccinations? How long will this neglect continue before everyone realizes it amounts to abuse and self-protection?

Listening to Dr. Healy on Larry King Live made me think of a new class of doctor.
Doctors who recognize the epidemic of autism.
Doctors who aren't afraid to investigate the link to vaccines.
Doctors who'll be hell-bent on stopping the damage and moving mountains to recover damaged children.

These doctors will achieve hero status. Given the choice, what physician who truly cares about the health and welfare of children would refuse to DEMAND SAFE VACCINES? If Dr. Healy, a nationally known expert, publicly states that the science isn't there to prove safety, we have to stop pretending it is. Healy is one of the first on the list of DOCTORS FOR SAFE VACCINES. Every doctor should be signing up. It's the only way to preserve trust in their profession. The exodus of parents from the vaccine schedule in CA is just the beginning. The publicity given to this controversy ensures that the public will not continue to buy the "vaccines are safe, vaccines save lives" mantra.

Anne Dachel
Media editor


you are most DEFINITELY winning the war. We have chosen to selectively vax our 1 1/2 year old, in no small part because of what I've read & learned here.... I call and write and email congressmen, legislators, pharmaceutical companies... people that 2 years ago... I never would have even known WHO they were. My mother writes to them, so does every one of my close friends. YOU ARE DEFINITELY WINNING. And many families are very thankful, I know we are.


I agree Kent, that the tide of public opinion is changing. I have a friend who lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, where the topic of conversation at the school playground is which vaccines you will "choose" to give your child. I live in eastern Long Island, where people are much slower to catch on. My one warrior mom friend and I stick out like sore thumbs at our spec. ed PTA meetings.

The director of spec ed for our school district told me at a recent meeting that she had "never heard of a child with autism recovering". She had never heard of chelation either. She decided before meeting our son that there is no way children with autism can get better, and of course would like to put him in the lowest functioning autism-only class the district has. When she evaluated him, you can imagine her shock that my son, who was non-verbal less than a year ago, was able to answer all her questions and tell her how he feels. She suggested to one of our therapists that we had found a way to prompt speech from our son behind her back - she actually suggested we were perpetrating some kind of fraud on the school district!

The thing is, we are closer to complete recovery every day. What we have already gotten is considered miraculous among the people who know Jack and what he was like before treatment. The children are our best advertisement. Our son is still delayed, but he is no longer mentally a 15-month old infant. His most recent testing put him on the level of a 36-month-old verbally, socially and emotionally (52-months-old academically, which is slightly older than his actual age). My cousin told me last week that her husband secretly thought we were crazy to spend money and time like we do on autism. He was here last week and told me that Jack had made him a believer. He is my greatest weapon in this war, and whether or not people think I am insane, everywhere Jack and I go, I tell everyone he is recovering from autism. Seeing is believing!


i'm so happy to read somthing like this - the pessimism of the last couple of months was incredibly depressing. i, too , recently met a new mother, who was keen to hear my views and has decidied to stop vaxxing her 5 month old baby. normally i would not even dare to express my sentiments in my neck of the woods ( the middle east - where the AAP schedule is revered but they also throw the BCG at birth). i actually bite my tongue when i speak to new mothers and they tell me their poor freshly vaxxed babies are fussy,feverish and failing to thrive!!

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