Hi Kent!! This is soo off subject but I have a video I would like to show you as well as a happy story! Despite our loss in
court, we do have good things happening here in West TN. Would you mind giving me a call???? 731-499-4088

I think people are scared to know how really bad it is and if it didn't effect their home directly they don't want to know. I have found my message has been much better received when I say things without too much emotion and keep the conversation light hearted. VERY HARD.. when i am strident and confrontational people avoid me AND THE MESSAGE...
I think it is important to realize people don't know what we know and are doing the best they can. Give a little information don't dump. I always ask people that in 1983 before we even talked about autism our kids would get 10 shots before going to school and say for all the big diseases like polio etc.. then I ask them how many they get now? Nobody has come even close and they look on their face is priceless. Then I give them jenny's website and stay friendly and happy. Obviously this is a lot easier since my child is doing well. Much harder for those who are in the throes of new or relentless autism.
But the grim reality is when the next wave of young adults who are less nourished , more toxic and they have added more vaccines have children there will be no denying.

Thank you for your article; it makes me feel more hopeful. Our neighbors have seen our son progress from severely affected (unable to walk, constant drooling, no speech) to now able to attend a special needs school, able to walk AND run, able to use some speech) but deny their nephew has the same problems, because he has a different dx. They all camped out at Children's Hospital in Seattle DEMANDING a non-autism dx, and finally (6 weeks later) got a "mitochondrial" dx. I told the husband (he's a lawyer and his wife is a dr. who does diabetes research) to check out the news about mito disease and autism, but his eyes glazed over. I wonder if they don't want to believe it's autism because of all the lies that "it's genetic." Their two kids are OK and they're still able to close their eyes about their nephew because he's only 5 years old. I hope they will at least call us when they're looking for a good special needs school. On a more hopeful note, another friend of mine, a young mom-to-be, just called and asked me what I thought about the Sears book and is going to read it through. I think you're right about a new generation being much more careful about vaccines.

I missed The Larry King show of April 3, 2009. Is it possible to view it on CNN.com, YouTube, or elsewhere?

I watched the show on Friday and was happy with Dr Berandine Healy, she's truly open minded. I am following Dr Sears' delayed vaccine schedule, and actually switched doctors to one who listed his name on Dr Sears website.
The new Doctor wanted to give my 4 month old twins the CDC recommended 5 shots at once and yelled at me for delaying them
( They are given at 4 months) and he said "Dr Sears is an idiot" twice or thrice. He literally kicked me out of his clinic!
I wonder if any pediatricians are watching these shows, it's time they did.

IMHO, this I am not anti vaccine stance, has and will continue this epidemic. Call it what you will, I don't call that zealotry to say you are anti vaccine, or anti toxin, or anti mandmade manipulated viruses...I call that true american..who has woken up to the agenda at hand, and sees the industry for what it is, disease promoting.

I performed an interesting experiment a few months ago. I have a co-worker who was a vaccine defender. She's read all of the news stories, listen to the doctors' and pediatricians' propaganda, and was downright convinced that there was no association between vaccines and autism. We talked about it several times, and I was able to point out the numerous fallacies in the can-fed arguments that are dribbled down through the masses.

The icing on the cake, though, was when I said that the main reason that I am convinced that the vaccine-autism connection has merit, other than the lack of science that proves there is no connection, was the way the Church of the Immaculate Vaccination treats any people it considers heretics...I mean "anti-vaccine." They are so rabid, so irrational in their defense that the only thing they can resort to is baseless insults and mindless repetition. She didn't believe me. So, I showed her the hate site of a certain "Doctor" we all know and loathe (Orac) and asked her to read 2 of his slander-filled blog-vomit posts and the comments associated with them. She returned about 30 minutes later and apologized for ever disagreeing with me. She started reading the research from our point of view, and now she pretty much agrees with me concerning vaccines and autism.

The problem is the Doctors, the people we are supposed to trust. They have lost that trust, and continue to do so with all of their repeated insults to parents who are justifiably angry at what has been done to our children. They are doing our work for us, turning people away with their close minded and dogmatic science-as-religion. If we can only get more people to look at the studies that we have done, then we will win. But, right now, these whipped and running-scared little doctor-wannabes (Orac) have a monopoly on most of this information, and they can choose to distribute whatever studies and information that supports their failing position.

Kent,

You are on the right track.

Reposted from earlier:

The tyrannical reign of the vaccine marketplace is just that. A power in constant peril to dominate or die.

Look at the headlines. "Anti-vaccine parents dealt a blow"...now whether or not we hold that position NOW isn't clear, but name three people in America smart enough to think "there's no way these people could be anti-vaccine and claim their children had been vaccine-injured."

While Dan was reading about Chess, my favorite reading subject was our Revolution.

Right now is as good a time as any to remoblize the tried and true axioms.

In the darkest time of Valley Forge George Washington had the following from Thomas Paine read aloud to the remaining troops:

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.

Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER," and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.

I have as little superstition in me as any man living, but my secret opinion has ever been, and still is, that God Almighty will not give up a people to military destruction, or leave them unsupportedly to perish, who have so earnestly and so repeatedly sought to avoid the calamities of war, by every decent method which wisdom could invent. Neither have I so much of the infidel in me, as to suppose that He has relinquished the government of the world, and given us up to the care of devils; and as I do not, I cannot see on what grounds the king of Britain can look up to heaven for help against us: a common murderer, a highwayman, or a house-breaker, has as good a pretence as he.

'Tis surprising to see how rapidly a panic will sometimes run through a country. All nations and ages have been subject to them. Britain has trembled like an ague at the report of a French fleet of flat-bottomed boats; and in the fourteenth [fifteenth] century the whole English army, after ravaging the kingdom of France, was driven back like men petrified with fear; and this brave exploit was performed by a few broken forces collected and headed by a woman, Joan of Arc. Would that heaven might inspire some Jersey maid to spirit up her countrymen, and save her fair fellow sufferers from ravage and ravishment! Yet panics, in some cases, have their uses; they produce as much good as hurt. Their duration is always short; the mind soon grows through them, and acquires a firmer habit than before. But their peculiar advantage is, that they are the touchstones of sincerity and hypocrisy, and bring things and men to light, which might otherwise have lain forever undiscovered. In fact, they have the same effect on secret traitors, which an imaginary apparition would have upon a private murderer. They sift out the hidden thoughts of man, and hold them up in public to the world."

I think this is appropriate.

"Wisdom is not the purchase of a day, and it is no wonder that we should err at the first setting off. From an excess of tenderness, we were unwilling to raise an army, and trusted our cause to the temporary defence of a well-meaning militia. A summer's experience has now taught us better;"

There is nothing worse than when you find yourself in an "I told you so" moment. I never say ITYS but play dumb and then go on to suggest diet, etc. However, I find that the same people who I warned about the vaccines whos kids are now damaged by vaccination ignore my biomed suggestions as well. They cart their kids from every dev ped, neurologist, etc. These are folks who have seen my kids before and after. They just trust these doctors so much. I saw one of the kids run out into the street with cars coming. I said, "My daughter used to do that before biomedical intervention." She said nothing.

It was only a couple of years ago that we first heard on tv the words autism and vaccines in the same sentence. I remember sreaming out loud over and over again in disbelief. Then look at Larry King's show on friday. We've come a long way, baby. For me this started with the NVIC Conference in 2000 and with the reading of the paper on vaccines and autism co-authored by Lyn Redwood. Been a long 9 years, but I'm feeling the journey, the pain, and the progress.
Maurine

"I have a friend who lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, where the topic of conversation at the school playground is which vaccines you will "choose" to give your child."

I live in Park Slope myself, and I can vouch for this - the parents I know have MAs and PhDs and MDs and JDs -- they all work at top jobs in Manhattan and make very good incomes. They read the NYT and the Economist and the WSJ and Discover Magazine - they are very pro-science, and very pro-health care and very-pro vaccine (and very pro-Obama, of course)-- but for many of them, there is no way they will let bureacrats at the CDC decide which shots, and when, their kids will get. They make their own decisions very very carefully after lots of consultations, including with their pediatricians. They are as far from fringe as it gets - these are the people who help run the banks and universities and media companies and publishing firms of America - they are educated consumers --- they spend weeks chosing the right car seat, why wouldn't they do they same for vaccines?

Kent,

You are absolutely right! The people out there like Paul Offit, Max Wiznitzer, and Margaret Fisher are like those who defended cigarettes in the face of growing evidence that smoking caused lung cancer. It's not to be expected that these doctors who've publicly laid their reputations on the line vouching for the safety of vaccines will ever back down.

They will however become more and more irrelevant.

The autism numbers are simply too horrible to continue to ignore. For far too long we've allowed officials to pretend that having a generation of sick children was normal and acceptable. While doctors like Fisher harp on vaccines preventing disease, they show no real concern about why so many children have a lifelong disability like autism.

It's incredible that the AAP and the CDC refuse to honestly and seriously look into biomedical treatment and diet to recover autistic children. Where is the alarm over reports of so many children who are perfectly normal and suddenly regress and lose learned skills following vaccinations? How long will this neglect continue before everyone realizes it amounts to abuse and self-protection?

Listening to Dr. Healy on Larry King Live made me think of a new class of doctor.
Doctors who recognize the epidemic of autism.
Doctors who aren't afraid to investigate the link to vaccines.
Doctors who'll be hell-bent on stopping the damage and moving mountains to recover damaged children.

These doctors will achieve hero status. Given the choice, what physician who truly cares about the health and welfare of children would refuse to DEMAND SAFE VACCINES? If Dr. Healy, a nationally known expert, publicly states that the science isn't there to prove safety, we have to stop pretending it is. Healy is one of the first on the list of DOCTORS FOR SAFE VACCINES. Every doctor should be signing up. It's the only way to preserve trust in their profession. The exodus of parents from the vaccine schedule in CA is just the beginning. The publicity given to this controversy ensures that the public will not continue to buy the "vaccines are safe, vaccines save lives" mantra.

Anne Dachel
Media editor

I agree Kent, that the tide of public opinion is changing. I have a friend who lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, where the topic of conversation at the school playground is which vaccines you will "choose" to give your child. I live in eastern Long Island, where people are much slower to catch on. My one warrior mom friend and I stick out like sore thumbs at our spec. ed PTA meetings.

The director of spec ed for our school district told me at a recent meeting that she had "never heard of a child with autism recovering". She had never heard of chelation either. She decided before meeting our son that there is no way children with autism can get better, and of course would like to put him in the lowest functioning autism-only class the district has. When she evaluated him, you can imagine her shock that my son, who was non-verbal less than a year ago, was able to answer all her questions and tell her how he feels. She suggested to one of our therapists that we had found a way to prompt speech from our son behind her back - she actually suggested we were perpetrating some kind of fraud on the school district!

The thing is, we are closer to complete recovery every day. What we have already gotten is considered miraculous among the people who know Jack and what he was like before treatment. The children are our best advertisement. Our son is still delayed, but he is no longer mentally a 15-month old infant. His most recent testing put him on the level of a 36-month-old verbally, socially and emotionally (52-months-old academically, which is slightly older than his actual age). My cousin told me last week that her husband secretly thought we were crazy to spend money and time like we do on autism. He was here last week and told me that Jack had made him a believer. He is my greatest weapon in this war, and whether or not people think I am insane, everywhere Jack and I go, I tell everyone he is recovering from autism. Seeing is believing!