11/4/79 60 Minutes Episode Exposed Swine Flu Vaccine Injuries, Lack of Safety
By Kim Stagliano
Read this transcript from a 1979 episode of 60 Minutes where Mike Wallace talks to President Ford, Judy Roberts (injured by the 1976 swine flu vaccine, paralyzed similar to Gardasil injury) Dr. David Sencer and others about the Swine Flu vaccine of 1976. Note the admitted lack of safety and informed consent to the public, even as TV ads frightened American citizens into getting a shot. Think anything has changed today?
60 MINUTES, Sunday Nov 4, 1979
"SWINE FLU"
MIKE WALLACE: The flu season is upon us. Which type will we worry about this year, and what kind of shots will we be told to take? Remember the swine flu scare of 1976? That was the year the U.S. government told us all that swine flu could turn out to be a killer that could spread across the nation, and Washington decided that every man, woman and child in the nation should get a shot to prevent a nation-wide outbreak, a pandemic.
Well 46 million of us obediently took the shot, and now 4,000 Americans are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to three and a half billion dollars because of what happened when they took that shot. By far the greatest number of the claims - two thirds of them are for neurological damage, or even death, allegedly triggered by the flu shot.
We pick up the story back in 1976, when the threat posed by the swine flu virus seemed very real indeed.
PRESIDENT GERALD FORD; This virus was the cause of a pandemic in 1918 and 1919 that resulted in over half a million deaths in the United States, as well as 20 million deaths around the world.
WALLACE: Thus the U.S. government's publicity machine was cranked into action to urge all America to protect itself against the swine flu menace. (Excerpt from TV commercial urging everyone to get a swine flu shot.) One of those who did roll up her sleeve was Judy Roberts. She was perfectly healthy, an active woman, when, in November of 1976, she took her shot. Two weeks later, she says, she began to feel a numbness starting up her legs.
JUDY ROBERTS: And I joked about it at that time. I said I'll be numb to the knees by Friday if this keeps up. By the following week, I was totally paralyzed.
WALLACE: So completely paralyzed, in fact, that they had to operate on her to enable her to breathe. And for six months, Judy Roberts was a quadriplegic. The diagnosis: A neurological disorder called "Guillian-Barre Syndrome" - GBS for short. These neurological diseases are little understood. They affect people in different ways.
As you can see in these home movies taken by a friend, Judy Roberts' paralysis confined her mostly to a wheelchair for over a year. But this disease can even kill. Indeed, there are 300 claims now pending from the families of GBS victims who died, alledgedly as a result of the swine flu shot. In other GBS victims, the crippling effects diminish and all but disappear. But for Judy Roberts, progress back to good health has been painful and partial.
Now, I notice that your smile, Judy, is a little bit constricted.
ROBERTS: Yes, it is.
WALLACE: Is it different from what it used to be?
ROBERTS: Very different, I have a – a greatly decreased mobility in my lips. AndI can't drink through a straw on the right-band side. I can't blow out birthday candles. I don't whistle any more, for which my husband is grateful.
WALLACE: It may be a little difficult for you to answer this question, but have you recovered as much as you are going to recover?
ROBERTS: Yes. This - this is it.
WALLACE: So you will now have a legacy of braces on your legs for the rest of your life?
ROBERTS: Yes. The weakness in my hands will stay and the leg braces will stay.
WALLACE: So Judy Roberts and her husband have filed a claim against the U.S. government. They're asking $12 million, though they don't expect to get nearly that much. Judy, why did you take the flu shot?
ROBERTS: I'd never taken any other flu shots, but I felt like this was going to be a major epidemic, and the only way to prevent a major epidemic of a - a really deadly variety of flu was for every body to be immunized.
WALLACE: Where did this so called "deadly variety of flu", where did it first hit back in 1976? It began right here at Fort Dix in New Jersey in January of that year, when a number of recruits began to complain of respiratory ailments, something like the common cold. An Army doctor here sent samples of their throat cultures to the New Jersey Public Health Lab to find our just what kind of bug was going around here. One of those samples was from a Private David Lewis, who had left his sick bed to go on a forced march. Private Lewis had collapsed on that march, and his sergeant had revived him by mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. But the sergeant showed no signs of illness. A few days later, Private Lewis died.
ROBERTS: If this disease is so potentially fatal that it's going to kill a young, healthy man, a middle-aged schoolteacher doesn't have a prayer.
WALLACE: The New Jersey lab identified most of those solders' throat cultures as the normal kind of flu virus going around that year, but they could not make out what kind of virus was in the culture from the dead soldier, and from four others who were sick. So they sent those cultures to the Federal Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia, for further study. A few days later they got the verdict: swine flu. But that much-publicized outbreak of swine flu at Fort Dix involved only Private Lewis, who died, and those four other soldiers, who recovered completely without the swine flu shot.
ROBERTS: If I had known at that time that the boy had been in a sick bed, got up, went out on a forced march and then collapsed and died, I would never have taken the shot.
DR DAVID SENCER: The rationale for our recommendation was not on the basis of the death of a - a single individual, but it was on the basis that when we do see a change in the characteristics of the influenza virus, it is a massive public-health problem in the country.
WALLACE: Dr David Sencer, then head of the CDC - the Center of Disease Control in Atlanta - is now in private industry. He devised the swine flu program and he pushed it.
You began to give flu shots to the American people in October of '76?
DR SENCER: October 1st.
WALLACE: By that time, how many cases of swine flu around the world had been reported?
DR SENCER: There had been several reported, but none confirmed. There had been cases in Australia that were reported by the press, by the news media. There were cases in -
WALLACE: None confirmed? Did you ever uncover any other outbreaks of swine flu anywhere in the world?
DR SENCER: No
WALLACE: Now, nearly everyone was to receive a shot in a public health facility where a doctor might not be present, therefore it was up to the CDC to come up with some kind of official consent form giving the public all the information it needed about the swine flu shot. This form stated that the swine flu vaccine had been tested. What it didn't say was that after those tests were completed, the scientists developed another vaccine and that it was the one given to most of the 46 million who took the shot. That vaccine was called "X-53a". Was X-53a ever field tested?
DR SENCER: I-I can't say. I would have to -
WALLACE: It wasn't
DR SENCER: I don't know
WALLACE: Well, I would think that you're in charge of the program
DR SENCER: 1 would have to check the records. I haven't looked at this in some time.
WALLACE: The information form the consent form was also supposed to warn people about any risk of serious complications following the shot. But did it?
ROBERTS: No, I had never heard of any reactions other than a sore arm, fever, this sort of thing.
WALLACE: Judy Roberts' husband, Gene, also took the shot.
GENE ROBERTS: Yes, I looked at that document, I signed it. Nothing on there said I was going to have a heart attack, or I can get Guillain Barre, which I'd never heard of.
WALLACE: What if people from the government, from the Center for Disease Control, what if they had indeed, known about it, what would be your feeling?
JUDY ROBERTS: They should have told us.
WALLACE: Did anyone ever come to you and say, "You know something, fellows, there's the possibility of neurological damage if you get into a mass immunization program?"
DR SENCER: No
WALLACE: No one ever did?
DR SENCER: No
WALLACE: Do you know Michael Hattwick?
DR SENCER: Yes, uh-hmm.
WALLACE: Dr Michael Hattwick directed the surveillance team for the swine flu program at the CDC. His job was to find out what possible complications could arise from taking the shot and to report his findings to those in charge. Did you know ahead of time, Dr Hattwick that there had been case reports of neurological disorders, neurological illness, apparently associated with the injection of influenza vaccine?
DR MICHAEL HNITWlCK: Absolutely
WALLACE: You did?
DR HATIWICK: Yes
WALLACE: How did you know that?
DR HATrwICK: By review of the literature.
WALLACE: So you told your superiors - the men in charge of the swine flu immunization program - about the possibility of neurological disorders?
DR RATTWICK: Absolutely
WALLACE: What would you say if I told you that your superiors say that you never told them about the possibility of neurological complications?
DR HAJTWICK: That's nonsense. I can't believe that they would say that they did not know that there were neurological illnesses associated with influenza vaccination. That simply is not true. We did know that.
DR SENCER: I have said that Dr Hattwick had never told me of his feelings on this subject.
WALLACE: Then he's lying?
DR SENCER: I guess you would have to make that assumption.
WALLACE: Then why does this report from your own agency, dated July 1976, list neurological complications as a possibility?
DR SENCER: I think the consensus of the scientific community was that the evidence relating neurologic disorders to influenza immunization was such that they did not feel that this association was a real one.
WALLACE: You didn't feel it was necessary to tell the American people that information
DR SENCER: I think that over the - the years we have tried to inform the American people as - as fully as possible.
WALLACE: As part of informing Americans about the swine flu threat, Dr Sencer's CDC also helped create the advertising to get the public to take the shot. Let me read to your from one of your own agency's memos planning the campaign to urge Americans to take the shot. "The swine flu vaccine has been taken by many important persons," he wrote. "Example: President Ford, Henry Kissinger, Elton John, Muhammad Ah, Mary Tyler Moore, Rudolf Nureyev, Walter Cronkite, Ralph Nader, Edward Kennedy" -etcetera, etcetera, True?
DR SENCER: I'm not familiar with that particular piece of paper, but I do know that, at least of that group, President Ford did take the vaccination.
WALLACE: Did you talk to these people beforehand to find out if they planned to take the shot?
DR SENCER: I did not, no.
WALLACE: Did anybody?
DR SENC ER: I do not know.
WALLACE: Did you get permission to use their names in your campaign?
DR SENCER: I do not know.
WALLACE: Mary, did you take a swine flu shot?
MARY TYLER MOORE: No, I did not.
WALLACE: Did you give them permission to use your name saying that you had or were going to?
MOORE: Absolutely not. Never did.
WALLACE: Did you ask your own doctor about taking the swine flu shot?
MOORE: Yes, and at the time he thought it might be a good idea. But I resisted it, because I was leery of having the symptoms that sometimes go with that kind of inoculation.
WALLACE: So you didn't?
MOORE: No, I didn't.
WALLACE: Have you spoken to your doctor since?
MOORE: Yes.
WALLACE: And?
MOORE: He's delighted that I didn't take that shot.
WALLACE: You're in charge. Somebody's in charge.
DR SENCER: There are -
WALLACE: This is your advertising strategy that I have a copy of here.
DR SENCER: Who's it signed by?
WALLACE: This one is unsigned. But you--you'll acknowledge that it was your baby so to speak?
DR SENCER: It could have been from the Department of Health, Education and Welfare. It could be from CDC. I don't know. I'll be happy to take responsibility for it.
WALLACE: It's been three years now since you fell ill by GBS right?
ROBERTS: Right.
WALLACE: Has the federal government, in your estimation, played fair with you about your claim?
ROBERTS: No, I don't think so. It seems to be dragging on and on and on, and really no end in sight that I can see at this point.
JOSEPH CALIFANO: With respect to the cases of Guillain Barre...
WALLACE: Former Secretary of HEW Joseph Califano, too was disturbed that there was no end in sight. So a year and a half ago, he proposed that Uncle Sam would cut the bureaucratic red tape for victims suffering from GBS and would pay up quickly.
CALIFANO: We shouldn't hold them to an impossible or too difficult standard of proving that they were hurt. Even if we pay a few people a few thousand dollars that might not have deserved it, I think justice requires that we promptly pay those people who do deserve it.
WALLACE: Who's making the decision to be so hard-nosed about settling?
CALIFANO: Well, I assume the Justice Department is.
WALLACE: Griffin Bell, before he left?
CALIFANO: Well, the Justice Department agreed to the statement I made. It was cleared word for word with the lawyers in the Justice Department by my HEW lawyers.
CALIFANO: That-that statement said that we should pay Guillain Barre claims without regard to whether the federal government was negligent, if they - if they resulted from the swine flu shot.
GENE ROBERTS: I think the government knows its wrong.
JUDY ROBERTS: If it drags out long enough, that people will just give up, let it go.
GENE ROBERTS: I—I am a little more adament in my thoughts than my wife is, because I asked - told Judy to take the shot. She wasn't going to take it, and she never had had shots. And I'm mad with my government because they knew the fact, but they didn't realise those facts because they - if they had released them, the people wouldn't have taken it. And they can come out tomorrow and tell me there's going to be an epidemic, and they can drop off like flies to - next to me, I will not take another shot that my government tells me to take.
WALLACE: Meantime, Judy Roberts and some 4,000 others like her are still waiting for their day in court.
Sound familiar? Don't doom yourself to repeating history.
Kim Stagliano is Managing Editor of Age of Autism.
It is impossible to fully comprehend the scope of the problems with Vaccinations. We simply do not have the information required to make that assessment available to to public.
Consider just this one case..
... Nearly every enlisted man in the US Armed Forces were forced under threat of criminal prosecution if they refused to take the Swine Flu Shot in the late 70s.. Thousands suffered ill effects immediately.. Some died immediately while massive numbers fell ill at the time (The Shots were deliberately give on Fridays as Commanders knew they were making the men ill.. They are old men now.. who in many cases have spent their lives as undiagnosed narcoleptics . CFS . .. Unable to keep awake hold a job.. Living in Poverty and ruin .. Only now due to the recent experiences of children in Britain do we know the Swine Flu Shot causes a form of Narcolepsy... The Powers that be .. will not even look back..
We are witnesses to truly criminal malfeasance which is ongoing.
Secret Vaccine Courts.. Taxpayer Funded.. So no one has any information as to the Scope of Vaccination problems.... Vaccine Manufacturers Immune from Suit .. They literally cannot be held responsible for the products they produce and sell at a profit..
Positively obscene
Posted by: Bob | May 08, 2019 at 07:11 PM
To create such fear in people that are manipulated into taking a vaccine that could damage their body is insane.
People just don't dye, they kill themself by not eating healthy....but for those of us who are not manipulated by constant fast food, dinner in a box....want to keep our freedom as God has given us to be responsilbe for our own way of taking care of our body.
No person or government has the right to take away what God has given us freely. Instead of all this why isn't the government building health spa's where people can get educated about their life style and get a good detox program going?
Man is just not that smart that he can make such a huge decision without it biting him/her in the butt eventually...be carefull of what you put on other....somewhere the accountability will show up.
Posted by: Linda | October 05, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I came to this web site out of curiosity from a comment on another site. It is the first time I've heard of others getting chronically ill from the swine flu shot.
In Oct 1976 I was in the military and ordered to get the swine flu shot along with everyone else on the base.
Over the years, thinking back, I thought it too much of a coincidence that I being very healthy got chronically ill within a month of getting the shot.
I was diagnosed with something other than GBS.
Are there any class actions lawsuits still active after all this time?
Can someone advise and provide a contact for more info?
Email [email protected]
Posted by: Steven | July 20, 2009 at 01:45 AM
Big Pharma...Monsanto...it's all about control. The big money has it and we don't want to be controled by the Evildoers. I for one just plan to say no when the government trys to force me to vaccinate. I will never sign any forms NOT holding THEM responsible for any damages. And if need be then I WILL go to jail for refusing. If everyone refused they would back off because they would not be able to jail everyone.
Posted by: Karen | May 11, 2009 at 05:41 PM
My wife suggested that one of the reasons they don't want to call the current flu the "swine" flu is so that people won't recall what happened in 1976. Can you imagine people searching "Swine Flu" when they finally do come out with the vaccine and coming across the 60 Minute story, or this piece from AoA? A Pauly prOffit nightmare!
Posted by: ObjectiveAutismDad | May 04, 2009 at 09:55 AM
Can we make an ad on youtube based on footage and quotes from this? And figure out how to make it go "viral . ." ? This is astounding. And actually just about the most depressing thing I've read in a long time. "when will we ever learn"
Also can anyone track down this woman to see if she is still alive and has comments?
Posted by: Carrie Kylesmom | May 02, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Kathy the vaccine manufacturer is Novavax. http://www.novavax.com
Novavax, Inc. (Novavax) is a clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company focused on creating differentiated, value-added vaccines that improve upon preventive options for a range of infectious diseases. These vaccines leverage its virus-like particle (VLP) platform technology coupled with a disposable production technology. VLPs are genetically engineered three-dimensional nanostructures, which incorporate immunologically important lipids and recombinant proteins. Novavax’s VLPs resemble the virus but lack the genetic material to replicate the virus. Its production technology uses insect cells rather than chicken eggs or mammalian cells. The Company’s product targets include vaccines against the H5N1 and other subtypes of avian influenza with pandemic potential, human seasonal influenza, Varicella Zoster, which causes shingles, and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV). This RSV vaccine was announced on October 30, 2008.
Dr. James S. Robertson, England’s leading bioengineer of flu viruses for the vaccine industry, and avid promoter of U.S. Government funding for lucrative “biodefense” contracts, along with collaborators at the US Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC), helped Novavax, Inc., in Bethesda, Maryland, produce genetically-modified recombinants of the avian, swine, and Spanish flu viruses, H5N1 and H1N1, nearly identical to the unprecedented Mexican virus that has now spread to the United States. The outbreak was precisely timed to promote the company’s new research and huge vaccine stockpiling contracts, according to Dr. Len Horowitz.
Scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) are implicated through collaborations and publications involving private contracts with Novavax, a company that obtains its “biosimulars” through CDC Influenza Branch director, Ruben O. Donis, and Dr. Rick Bright, previously working with Donis at the CDC, now Novavax’s Vice President of Global Influenza Programs.
Evidence for the conspiracy to commit deadly duplicity in the vaccine industry includes the genetic markers on the novel flu virus now spreading from Mexico to America. The virus is “genetically different from the fully human H1N1 seasonal influenza virus that has been circulating globally for the past few years,” according to Reuters and government officials. “The new flu virus contains DNA typical to avian, swine and human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine viruses.”
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-1147.htm
http://www.google.com/finance/historical?q=NASDAQ:NVAX
http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2009/03/30/daily58.html
God help us!
My family is not going anywhere for one week. We are pretending to be snowed in. The virus supposedly has a one week incubation period, so within a week we will know if we are well or not. After that it will be extreme caution wherever we go after that. My son won't be able to handle it. His immune system is too low. We don't have to be anywhere so why risk it, right?
Posted by: bensmyson | April 30, 2009 at 10:51 PM
History teaches. We must never ignore it. Funny how the younger generation is amazed at the journalism, the cover ups and so on. We "boomers" saw it all happen and then today, more of same. Scare the people and then save them with a vaccine. Just one small thing we can glean from this. Vaccines can be dangerous, oh, that could be another small thing.
Cynthia Cournoyer
http://www.whataboutimmunizations.com/
Posted by: Cynthia Cournoyer | April 30, 2009 at 10:34 PM
I miss Mike Wallace. Sigh. This reminds me of the recent draft VICP charge re: updating adverse events. The Varicella vaccine causes Cerebellar Ataxia. Like in my daughter. Wonder if that will make it into the final draft? Or any informed consent documents? Not that most pediatricians give those out anyway.
One of the articles I read on this whole swine flu thing quoted a Vax Manufacturer that they could have a saline-based vaccine in a matter of weeks. The question is, would they make that version, or the adjuvenated one (hello, neurotoxic aluminum!) that would require less of the virus per dose? Gee, let's see, which costs more, the virus or the aluminum?
Posted by: Garbo | April 30, 2009 at 07:43 PM
Wow...Thanks so much for posting this. What really made me stop in my tracks was actually the previous post about the woman with GBS and how basically apraxia is the same as her oral motor problems. My son is still fighting to speak at almost five. (I believe we will get there!) When I had looked up apraxia I saw they had two ways of developing it--it was either present at birth or from a neurological injury. If these kids didn't have it at birth and lost the ability to speak due to oral motor control--obviously known as a symptom of GBS--how can they deny any vaccine connection?
Posted by: kristin bushey | April 30, 2009 at 07:01 PM
PErsonally, I think this is all bioweaponized genetic modified engineerred reversed engineered stuff...that said, we must be prepared. No vaccines, no tamiflu, and I mean that. Get some Miracle Mineral Supplement ( I don't sell it, just use it), and it will kill this virus on the spot. No side effects. Might have die off, since our kids have a lot of fungi and bacteria, so expect a day of "great autism" stuff. That said...I am sure our kids are MORE vulnerable to this, so personally, I am going to take my one child in school out. And, we have decided not to shop in areas of groceries where there are a high amount of known immigrants shopping. Using lysol and clorox sprays in our purses, etc. Washing hands, etc. They also say if you smoke, have diabetes, are overweight, have immune deficiencies (that's our kids), and the like, you should prepare for not handling this epidemic well. Maybe a good excuse to quite smoking, lose some weight etc.
Obama was said to be in Mexico of recent, and his tour guide in the museam of antiquity died of this. They show a picture of them shaking hands.....and now he has a staffer down with this pestilence..
More and more this sounds like someone doesn't want Obama to stick around...and there are reports of trucks shipping materials for this outcome in the last few months.
So, yeah, smoke and mirrors, violines are being played, and don't look behind that curtain.. This is for someones benefit, and more and more it sounds like BAXTER, and other pharma companies who are developing andecdotes for this.
Posted by: Kathy Blanco | April 30, 2009 at 03:14 PM
"Now, I notice that your smile, Judy, is a little bit constricted.
ROBERTS: Yes, it is.
WALLACE: Is it different from what it used to be?
ROBERTS: Very different, I have a – a greatly decreased mobility in my lips. AndI can't drink through a straw on the right-band side. I can't blow out birthday candles. I don't whistle any more, for which my husband is grateful.
WALLACE: It may be a little difficult for you to answer this question, but have you recovered as much as you are going to recover?
ROBERTS: Yes. This - this is it."
So one can lose an ability to drink from a straw from side effects of a vaccine?
hmmm. That happened to my son. He's 13 and still can't blow up a ballon and struggles to "remember" how to blow whistles and party horns. We've been working on that in speech. His mouth muscles don't seem to work right.
We're calling it apraxia. And he also has a bunch of other speech diagnoses.
The good news is- he can drink from a straw again.
Posted by: Andrea | April 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Thanks for this healthy remainder of the times before infotainment took flight. Anyone affected by the Gardasil shot would explode in rage after seeing this, it is exactly what they are going through. The discussion about swine flu consent forms not listing all possible side effects is amazing. It's sad to see that vaccine consent forms have not improved at all. To me the lack of information we see today on the official CDC info brochures for recommended vaccines is downright criminal. I'm sure there is a memo somewhere, similar to the infamous "torture memos", justifying the CDC's criminal behavior as well.
In conclusion, not much has changed since 1976 if not for the worse in many respects. Today's mass media outlets ask for their corporate sponsor's lawyers approval before airing any segment on health issues, and there is a much more effective propaganda campaign in place now by pharma and their partners in gov't. If it wasn't for the internet and blogs like AoA we would actually be worse off today than in 1976.
Posted by: WE SHALL OVERCOME | April 30, 2009 at 11:14 AM
And within a decade of this report, pharma gets full liability protection from being held accountable for their product, and the Justice Department, who either mandated or highly encouraged the product's use, gets to decide if they were wrong.
This passage is haunting and telling of what was to come.
WALLACE: Former Secretary of HEW Joseph Califano, too was disturbed that there was no end in sight. So a year and a half ago, he proposed that Uncle Sam would cut the bureaucratic red tape for victims suffering from GBS and would pay up quickly.
CALIFANO: We shouldn't hold them to an impossible or too difficult standard of proving that they were hurt. Even if we pay a few people a few thousand dollars that might not have deserved it, I think justice requires that we promptly pay those people who do deserve it.
WALLACE: Who's making the decision to be so hard-nosed about settling?
CALIFANO: Well, I assume the Justice Department is.
WALLACE: Griffin Bell, before he left?
CALIFANO: Well, the Justice Department agreed to the statement I made. It was cleared word for word with the lawyers in the Justice Department by my HEW lawyers.
CALIFANO: That-that statement said that we should pay Guillain Barre claims without regard to whether the federal government was negligent, if they - if they resulted from the swine flu shot.
GENE ROBERTS: I think the government knows its wrong.
Mr. Roberts, so do we.
Posted by: Julie Obradovic | April 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM
"And we hadn't adopted the medical model of stopping all childhood diseases via vaccination."
Well, then came swine flu and killed everybody off. So much for vaccines after all!!
Posted by: Irony | April 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Wow!!! Great Old Fashioned Journalism!! Why don't we get that anymore???? At least on some medium instead of 999+% of propoganda. I can relate SOOOO strongly to Gene!! After my son's regression and other reactions with my other children these are almost the exact thoughts that go through my head daily...
GENE ROBERTS: I—I am a little more adament in my thoughts than my wife is, because I asked - told Judy to take the shot. She wasn't going to take it, and she never had had shots. And I'm mad with my government because they knew the fact, but they didn't realise those facts because they - if they had released them, the people wouldn't have taken it. And they can come out tomorrow and tell me there's going to be an epidemic, and they can drop off like flies to - next to me, I will not take another shot that my government tells me to take.
Posted by: Allison | April 30, 2009 at 09:53 AM
Hey.........for funsies try googling "tamiflu" and "psychosis".
Posted by: Becky | April 30, 2009 at 09:26 AM
I have never seen this fascinating piece of journalism. I read the NYT piece from the 70's (when they had real journalists)and also the counterspin paper on the CDC website. It comes down to the issue of lack of informed consent for disorders with plausible deniability (negative epidemiology studies). Great job Kim putting this out there. Those who are not students of history are doomed to repeat themselves!
Posted by: fathertoautism | April 30, 2009 at 08:42 AM
These halotypes are also associated with BGS
In Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), complement activation plays a crucial role in the induction and extent of the postinfectious immune-mediated peripheral nerve damage. Mannose-binding lectin (MBL) activates the complement system via the lectin pathway after recognition of repetitive sugar groups on pathogens. We investigated whether the MBL2 genotype, serum MBL level, and MBL complex activity are associated with the development and severity of GBS. Single nucleotide polymorphisms in the promoter region (-550 H/L and -221 X/Y) and exon 1 (A/O) of the MBL2 gene were determined in 271 GBS patients and 212 healthy controls. The frequencies of the H allele, HY promoter haplotype, and HYA haplotype, which are related to high MBL activity, were all increased in GBS patients compared with healthy controls (p 0.03), particularly in severely affected GBS patients (MRC-sum score <40) (p 0.02). Severe weakness was also associated with high MBL concentrations and MBL complex activity in sera from GBS patients (p < 0.01). The MBL2 B allele was associated with functional deficiency and relatively mild weakness. These results support the hypothesis that complement activation mediated by MBL contributes to the extent of nerve damage in GBS, which is codetermined by the MBL2 haplotype.
Posted by: paula p proffit merckelouse | April 30, 2009 at 08:41 AM
cooper has the million dollar question. What the hell happened to journalism in this country. Another question that is worth a few bucks is. If we knew vaccines were causing GBS[neurological harm] in 1976 then why are we still giving people GBS? Why didnt they look at safety back then? Its only been 33 damn years. Whats the hold up? So far vaccines associated with GBS are Tetnus,rubella,mumps,hep-b,diptheria,poliovirus,Bacille calmette,,rabies,Menactra,swine flu, small pox,and guardacil.Now these halotypes are associated with GBS so why arent we prescreening folks for the halotypes prior to playing russian roulette? I guess caution and public safety arent of any concern to the medical establishment
Polymorphisms in genes involved in regulation of immune homeostasis may be a susceptibility factor in the induction of cross-reactive anti-ganglioside antibodies after infection in patients with Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS). In this study we assessed whether polymorphisms in the promoter region of Fas and FasL and sFas and sFasL are related to GBS or its distinct clinical or serological subgroups. We show that the A(−670)G SNP in the promoter region of Fas and high levels of sFas are associated with the presence of anti-ganglioside antibodies, suggesting that Fas-FasL interaction is involved in the production of cross-reactive antibodies in GBS.
Posted by: paula p proffit merckelouse | April 30, 2009 at 08:39 AM
Pharma was not an advertiser in 1979. Vaccination was still perceived as a respected and somewhat feared (in a healthy way) method of protecting against truly deadly disease. And we hadn't adopted the medical model of stopping all childhood diseases via vaccination.
Posted by: Stagmom | April 30, 2009 at 08:05 AM
What the hell happened to journalism in this country? He was prepared, he had researched, he asked the right questions, he didn't let a "lie" go past him.
Where is this journalism today?!?!?
Posted by: CooperHawkes | April 30, 2009 at 07:50 AM
Infectious or epidemic scares http://www.whale.to/a/infectious_scares.html
That 36,000 is a lie, it's 700
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/swine.html
Swinew flu 1976
Posted by: john | April 30, 2009 at 05:47 AM
Thanks very much for this--I am showing it to everyone I know.
The journalism of the time shows a certain directness and self-confidence that are discouragingly unfamiliar (on television anyway!). Just 30 years ago... and how will the world look in another 30 years? Don't stop fighting!
Posted by: Eric | April 30, 2009 at 03:30 AM
Kim:
Unreal. What a great job in digging this up. The same nonsense was going 35 years ago. 60 Minutes did a piece on people suffering neurological damage from vaccines 35 years ago! Given this history, why are we all attacked as being crazy now?
Messed up research. Lies and false advertising. And the justice system for them was just as screwed up.
How come stories like this no longer appear on our networks? Where is 60 Minutes now?
Posted by: Louis Conte | April 30, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Yeah, how about some NEW flu viruses for the 21st century? Pick an animal... horse flu? Goldfish flu? Spotted Owl flu? South African Penguin flu? Just ANYTHING we haven't seen come and go without incident before...
If this new administration buys a large stock of vaccine, etc. from a major pharmaceutical... then I'm crying foul. This is oversensationalized horse-hockey! I bet we've had more lightning deaths... or regular flu deaths in the last year...
Posted by: Erik Nanstiel | April 29, 2009 at 11:31 PM
What if we staged a time line release of autism as an epidemic that emerged over a few weeks rather than years. Create press accounts of a suspected autism case in NJ along US Route 1 in central NJ. A couple days later, a few cases in CA, and MA are reported but not confirmed. A week goes by and autism has spread worldwide. Autism schools are starting to form, local school budgets are stressed. Another day and autism kids are getting tasered, locked up, and harrassed for walking down their own streets. Another day and hundreds of thousands of adults line up in the rain waiting for shelter, services, and employment opportunities. All of these cases have one thing in common, no family history of anything as severe as what we are seeing now... The CDC and WHO spring into action and raise the threat level to ... deeply concerned.
The CDC puts zero and zero together and declares that autism is almost entirely genetic, and that autism rates over the past couple weeks really haven't changed. The press is satisfied, and begins mocking reporters who covered the story the prior week. Case closed, but the lines keep getting longer everywhere.
Posted by: jruch | April 29, 2009 at 11:29 PM
I will never give up....WE will never give up. This just adds more fuel to the fire and keeps me going...keep sending out the truth....thanks Kim.
As I sit my ass in vaccine court alongside the rest of the families that jump through the insane hoops our government continues to throw in front of us...all I can say is
I (WE) will never stop trying....you have given us that "gift"...the one that allows us to get up every day and do the impossible...We fight for our children our families and the truth!
Ugh, I'm so done with the blatant lies and deceit that spew from the mouths of those classified as "higher authority"....they kill me....seriously, do they really think we are the ignorant ones?!?! never again my friends never again. I learned my lesson the hard way and my kids are paying the ultimate price.
Posted by: Jeanna | April 29, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I don't know how you dug this up but am sure glad you did. Thanks so much for another very informative post.
Posted by: Lisa B. | April 29, 2009 at 10:16 PM
You began to give flu shots to the American people in October of '76?
DR SENCER: October 1st.
WALLACE: By that time, how many cases of swine flu around the world had been reported?
DR SENCER: There had been several reported, but none confirmed. There had been cases in Australia that were reported by the press, by the news media. There were cases in -
WALLACE: None confirmed? Did you ever uncover any other outbreaks of swine flu anywhere in the world?
DR SENCER: No
Seriously, why aren't these people criminally charged for this sort of betrayal of public trust?
Posted by: bensmyson | April 29, 2009 at 09:29 PM
All I can say is :~O
This was KNOWN? It was on "60 Minutes"? What did they do to Mike Wallace in the mean time-- yank his spinal cord out through his nose as a warning to never tread on vaccine territory again? Is his soul for sale on Ebay? Where has he been on our issue?
And why was anyone surprised when neurologic damage showed up in the wake of the increase in the number of childhood shots? The CDC could NOT have been. The implications...yikes.
Tim-- I'm not entirely sure but I believe that "36,000 die of the flu each year" number was pulled out of a hat by some health agency or the vaccine industry. I believe the actual number is closer to 3,400.
Posted by: Gatogorra | April 29, 2009 at 09:12 PM
This morning I heard a segment on NPR about the possible development of a Swine Flu vaccine for next fall. They did discuss the safety issues with the '79 vaccine and the fact that if there is a vaccine developed by fall that there will be no time for adequate safety testing.
Posted by: Pamela | April 29, 2009 at 08:58 PM
Thanks, Kim, for this trip down memory lane. Not much has changed, eh?
Public policy based on misinformation and plenty of finger-pointing afterward. We know that at least one of those public health officials is lying. That nasty realization doesn't exactly bolster public trust in government.
So, Mary Tyler Moore didn't get a swine flu shot? Our Mary? If she'd been on the TV show "Law and Order: SVU" last night, she'd be charged with murder for that choice.
Posted by: nhokkanen | April 29, 2009 at 08:50 PM
I am reeling from the fact that 36,000 people die from the "regular flu" every year and we are entering the friggin twilight zone on less than 200 cases and a few deaths?
Not to discount the misery of one child who suffered from the swine flu or the many elderly and physically susceptable who succumb to the regular flu every year but the hypocracy is unbelievable. Autism is WORLDWIDE (in developed countries) as is swine flu - and it happens to perfectly healthy kids. Where is the equity?
THOUSANDS of chldren every year just mysteriously "become" autistic and no one GIVES A GODDAMN SHIT.
Guess Tamiflu is more profitable that Pillcam Endoscopy is.
Posted by: Tim Kasemodel | April 29, 2009 at 08:45 PM