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Monster eating By J.B. Handley
 
There is a very, very hungry lie, and the lie needs more food. Dr. Paul Offit is this lie's public chef, but it also gets fed by the Centers for Disease Control, American Academy of Pediatrics, and many other parties who have a vested interest in protecting our current vaccine program. The problem with a lie as big as this one is that it never knows when it has had enough to eat, and it always needs more food.
 
It's a simple lie, really. And, it's being told with more and more frequency lately, which is really no surprise. Lies like this tend to get fatter and fatter and hungrier and hungrier before they explode, and many, many people need this lie to be true.

Like many lies, this one has evolved. The lie-tellers used to tell half-truths, but they seem to have abandoned the half-truths and just gone for the big, big lie. That's how hungry a lie tends to get. Don't feed me half-truths, the lie screams, feed me lies!

Like other very big lies, this one retains a lot of credibility with people who have a lot of credibility. And, we have seen this movie before, whether it's Colin Powell blessing the presence of WMDs in Iraq or the SEC blessing the trading prowess of Bernie Madoff. We know how the movie ends.

Stephen Greenspan, a psychologist and expert on gullibility, explains this recurrent experience of smart people falling for big, hungry lies as due to "the tendency of humans to model their actions—especially when dealing with matters they don't fully understand—on the behavior of other humans."



So, some humans purportedly in the position to understand something say the lie, and repeat it over and over again and pretty soon a bunch of people who don't really understand it start saying the same thing.

What's the big lie? Trust me; I really want to tell you, I've just struggled with which lie-teller to quote first. These days, there are so many people telling the lie I hardly know where to start.
 
I thought long and hard about which lie-teller should get us going, and I've settled on Dr. David Tayloe. As the President-elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics, he's supposed to have our kids' back. Of course, he doesn't. And he's certainly not above telling the lie.
 
I also picked David Tayloe because he said on Larry King Live that, in all his decades of being a pediatrician, he'd never reported an adverse event from a vaccine. Given how long he's practiced, and how many kids he's shot-up, it's a near impossibility that no child had an adverse event to a vaccine from his practice, so that makes Dr. David Tayloe somewhat or fully full of shit. So, he gets the nod.
 
I've dragged this out so long, I almost don't want to drop it on you now, but here goes, here's Dr. David Tayloe, President-elect of the AAP, telling the big, big, very hungry lie:
 
"Vaccines do not cause autism and we're not afraid of the truth."
 
Dr. Tayloe may not be afraid of the truth, but he's certainly afraid to speak it.
 
Lest you think I'm picking on Dr. Tayloe, which I certainly am, just know that he is well-supported by other humans who don't really understand the issue telling the same lie he's telling because they heard other people say it. Consider these luminaries of the hungry lie:
 
Dr. Paul Offit: "It's been asked and answered: Vaccines don't cause autism."
 
Amanda Peet, spokesperson for Sanofi Pasteur and Every Child By Two: "Fourteen studies have been conducted (both here in the US and abroad), and these tests are reproducible; no matter where they are administered, or who is funding them, the conclusion is the same: there is no association between autism and vaccines."
 
Dr. Nancy Minshew, director of the University of Pittsburgh's Center for Excellence in Autism: "The weight of evidence is so great that I don't think that there is any room for debate. I think the issue is done. I'm doing this for all the families out there who don't have a child with autism, who have to deal with the issue of 'Do I get a vaccination or do I risk my child's life' because they don't understand what the science is saying."
 
Dr. Michael Katz, senior vice president for Research and Global Programs for the March of Dimes: "The implication that vaccinations cause autism is irresponsible and counter productive."
 
Dr. Renee Jenkins, current President of the AAP: "A television show that perpetuates the myth that vaccines cause autism is the height of reckless irresponsibility on the part of ABC."
 
Dr. Nancy Snyderman, medical correspondent for NBC: "Sixteen separate studies have shown no causal association [between vaccines and autism]."
 
The American Medical Association: "Scientific data overwhelmingly show that there is no connection between vaccines and autism."
 
Whew. I'm tired just typing all those quotes. If that's not a sign that there is "consensus" on an issue…I don't know what is.

What do we make of so many official people saying, and at times shouting, the same thing? The late Michael Crichton, himself an M.D., addressed this notion of a bunch of pedigreed people shouting the same lie, with a level of eloquence I could never summon:

"I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had."
 
Birth of the Lie: 2004
 
We all know the year. We all know the organization. We all know the document. No document on earth has ever been more widely quoted, misquoted, represented, and misrepresented to prove, once and for all, that vaccines do not cause autism. Because this document is so damn important, and because we know exactly when the document was released, we can be very clear about exactly when this very hungry lie was born:
May 17, 2004.
 
Before I continue, I need to tell you something, and I really, really need you to listen. I'm going to quote a cliché, one that has been used many times, and is used so often that sometimes we may forget to reflect on its meaning, so please, take a moment and really think about this: The devil is in the details. Always.
 
With that cliché now bouncing around in your head, let's look at the birth date of this very hungry lie when the Institute of Medicine released a document with the very official sounding name Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism. (HERE)
 
There it is. There's the very first lie. And, oddly enough, it's the title of the entire document. Stick with me on this, and remember the cliché I just mentioned to you. The title of the document is "Vaccines and Autism." To the average person, this would presume that the document explores the concept of whether or not vaccines cause autism.
 
But, it doesn't. And, the study itself is far more honest than its own title. The study itself actually tells you what the IOM looked at and here it is, the IOM summary of what they actually looked at in the study they released on May 17, 2004:
 
"In this report, the committee examines the hypothesis of whether the MMR vaccine and the use of vaccines containing the preservative thimerosal can cause autism."
 
Wait a minute. The world thinks the IOM considered whether or not vaccines can cause autism. There are 11 separately licensed vaccines given to children (I'm counting DTaP and MMR as one each, even though they are triple shots), many given multiple times. The IOM looked at only one of these vaccines, the MMR, and an ingredient found in many others, Thimerosal.
 
But, the hungry lie started that day, two months before my own son was diagnosed with autism. It started with a very odd and very contradictory piece of journalism by a writer from Reuters who seems to be more confused by the issue than most. This writer, Maggie Fox, reported on the IOM's document soon after its release, and her headline is clear enough:
 
VACCINE DOES NOT CAUSE AUTISM, PANEL SAYS

That's as clear and concise a version of the lie as you will ever see, although the use of the word "vaccine" rather than "vaccines" is odd. Within her own story, Ms. Fox goes on to explain what the IOM study actually did do, which contradicts her own headline:
 
"Neither the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine nor a mercury-based preservative used in some childhood shots cause autism, a U.S. health panel has found."
 
Hmm, that's weird. Even weirder is the quote she pulled out of Marie McCormick, the chairperson of the very IOM committee that issued the report that started the lie:
 
"The weight of that evidence is pretty substantial," said Dr Marie McCormick, an expert in child and mother health at the Harvard School of Public Health who chaired the panel. "The overwhelming evidence from several well-designed studies indicates that childhood vaccines are not associated with autism," she added.

Childhood vaccines are not associated with autism? That's quite a statement; particularly given the panel only contemplated two things: the MMR vaccine and an ingredient (mercury) in some vaccines. It's not just quite a statement; it's an unbelievably bold misrepresentation, which is a nice word for a lie.
 
I have noticed this trend a lot lately, where health authorities in positions of influence seem to bounce back and forth between representing honestly what research has actually been done and making sweeping statement of false reassurance. Consider the curious case of Dr. Paul Offit, a henchman for Merck and vaccine patent-holder. In an article in the New England Journal of Medicine several years ago, Dr. Offit spelled out the research fairly clearly:
 
"Fourteen epidemiological studies have shown that the risk of autism is the same whether children received the MMR vaccine or not, and five have shown that thimerosal-containing vaccines also do not cause autism."
 
Today, why bother with the details? It's much easier for Offit to say, "It's been asked and answered: Vaccines don't cause autism" and be done with it.
 
I wish I was done at this point, partly because all these details really wear me out, but the story actually gets a lot worse.

Devilish Details
 
I'm now going to make a point, and this is without a doubt the most important point I'm making today, so I hope you can once again take just a little bit closer of a listen. As we all know, the IOM looked at many different studies regarding both Thimerosal and the MMR vaccine.
 
But, there is a point, and it's a point many of us think we know, but it's a point rarely discussed and a point so important that I think someday when they are piecing together how in the world the autism epidemic ever happened and how in the world such a big hungry lie was ever told for so long, I think this is the point they will make, so I'm going to make it first:
 
There isn't a single study contemplated by the IOM, or cited by any medical authority whether CDC, AAP, WHO, IOM, or ECBT, that compares anything EXCEPT vaccinated children.
 
How can that be? How can the IOM's document that tells the world that vaccines do not cause autism be resting on a foundation of studies that only ever looked at vaccinated children?
 
We need some analogies here:
 
That would be like looking at people who smoke one pack a day versus two packs a day and seeing no difference in lung cancer rates and saying cigarettes don't cause lung cancer.
 
That would be like looking at people who eat chocolate chip cookies with chocolate chips and chocolate chip cookies without chocolate chips and seeing no difference in obesity rates and saying cookies don't contribute to obesity.
 
That would be like looking at people who smoke low-tar cigarettes and people who smoke normal cigarettes and seeing no difference in lung cancer rates and saying cigarettes don't cause lung cancer…
 
Do I need to continue? When I explained this trick to my 9 year-old, he got it, so I hope you do, too. If you can look at these studies and say that vaccines do not cause autism, well, I think you make Foghorn Leghorn look like Chickenhawk.
 
Let's go back to Reuters for a second, because the article is terribly important, being the media's first brush with the lie and all. Let's look at what else Ms. Fox said back in 2004:
 
"The panel, which included experts in paediatrics, family medicine, statistics and epidemiology, had reported in 2001 that there was no proven link between vaccines and autism but said there was not quite enough evidence to be definitive. Since then, they have reviewed five large epidemiological studies done in the U.S., the U.K., Denmark, and Sweden that found Children who were vaccinated with thimerosal-containing vaccines were no more likely to have autism than children who received thimerosal-free vaccines."
 
Five large studies done? OK. And, these studies were the ones that turned the tide, right? That's certainly what this writer appears to have learned from the IOM. Just for fun, let's actually look at the "new" studies that were contemplated by the IOM. Not all five of them, but just for fun I'll pick two of the studies Ms. Fox is talking about, the one from the US and the one from the UK, published in 2003 and 2004, respectively.
 
Before we look at these two studies, I need to make another point: the majority of studies that authorities point to as proof that vaccines do not cause autism have been published in a journal called Pediatrics. As Pediatrics will tell you, they are the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. As we know, the AAP is a trade union for pediatricians with two unfortunate truths:
 
- The AAP derives a majority of their outside contributions (estimated at more than $25 million per year) from pharmaceutical companies who make vaccines

- The very people the AAP represents, pediatricians, derive the majority of their annual revenues from the administration of vaccines to children
 
Do you think that's a coincidence? 
 
CDC Study, the one that just won't go away
 
The first of the two studies I'll look at, the one that most people cite as the definitive work that vaccines do not cause autism, was published in Pediatrics in November 2003 and was written by the CDC by a lead researcher named Thomas Verstraeten. It's called Safety of Thimerosal Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Databases. 
 
To say that much has been written about this study is like saying much has been written about Britney's love life – it's always an understatement. So, I'm just going to make two points about this study, two points that will show you how big this lie has really become:
 
1. The study's authors, after analyzing the only data ever run on American children (data that was later lost by the CDC), concluded that they couldn't prove anything either way. Their study was simply inconclusive. Not positive, not negative. Just neutral. After the press and vaccine talking heads tried to turn the study into the first evidence of the very big lie, the study's lead author, that same guy Verstraeten, wrote a desperate letter to Pediatrics because he was distraught at how his study--the one he was the lead author for--was being misused:
 
"Surprisingly, however, the study is being interpreted now as negative [where 'negative' implies no association was shown between Thimerosal and autism] by many...The article does not state that we found evidence against an association, as a negative study would. It does state, on the contrary, that additional study is recommended, which is the conclusion to which a neutral study must come...A neutral study carries a very distinct message: the investigators could neither confirm nor exclude an association, and therefore more study is required."
 
It's hard to imagine a second point actually worse than the point I just made, the point that one of the most famous studies routinely held up to support the position that "vaccines don't cause autism" actually reached no decision at all. 0./But, it does get worse.
 
2. Like every study the IOM considered in reaching their conclusion, and like every study ever cited by anyone defending the vaccine program, this study only looked at children who had been vaccinated. If that wasn't bad enough, the authors actually went a step further. Because there were so few children available who had received vaccines without Thimerosal, they actually compared children who had received MORE Thimerosal with children who received LESS Thimerosal to try and reach a conclusion. In point of fact, this "large-scale" study, as it's so often portrayed by the media, evaluated a total of exactly 223 children with autism, all of whom had been vaccinated, and over 80% of whom had received vaccines with 87 or more micrograms of mercury.
 
Man, I'm really tired of talking about these details. If you think it's hard reading this lengthy piece, try writing it. In fact, it's the painful nature of these pesky details that makes the lie so easy to feed and perpetuate. Who really reads this shit? No one, I think. In fact, I have a little secret to tell you: I have actually read every single study the IOM based their conclusions on and every study the other side claims supports their case. I have them all sitting right next to me here in a tidy little folder. I may be the only human being on earth (except perhaps Bernadine Healy) who has actually done this.
 
How am I so sure? I'm not, really. I just know it took me several hours and several hundred dollars to even get all the studies together in one place. You see, many of the actual studies are not freely available online for the average journalist to find, you have to buy them from the websites of the journals. Testing this hypothesis a step further, I asked a journalism friend of mine to ask Every Child By Two if they had copies of all the studies they cite on their website that prove vaccines don't cause autism. Surely they had copies and had read them all…surely?
 
Here's what he heard back:
 
Unfortunately we do not have copies of all of the studies available. I would suggest that if you check the main library at [your school]. They often get these journals even though your school doesn't have a medical or nursing program and you can copy what you need. Some may also be available online.
 
Rich
Rich Greenaway
Director of Operations and Special Projects
Every Child By Two
 
Nope, even ECBT doesn't have the studies; they just speak authoritatively about the conclusions of studies they've never actually read…
 
The "British" Study – Am I on Neptune?
 
Ok, I'll admit it -- up until a week ago, I'd never read the large-scale epidemiological study from the UK that clearly shows vaccines don't cause autism as was clearly stated in the Reuters article and clearly part of the IOM's very clear conclusion. I feel terrible, but I just never took the time to read it.
 
When I finally read it, cover to cover, all 7 pages of this published study, I only had one conclusion: Am I living on fucking Neptune?
 
You see, if you think the CDC study I just told you about is a shaky foundation for building a hungry lie, then the British study is the foundation of a thousand year old clay shack in the Sichuan Province during a 9.0 earthquake.
 
Like all studies, the UK study has a very official sounding name, and one I will repeat so I can be as clear as possible:
 
Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association
 
Wow, that's an earful. Oddly, like few other studies I have seen, the title includes the conclusion of the study, albeit a deceitful representation of the actual conclusion.
 
This UK study is such junk, it's really hard to write about. I imagine a journalist trying to read this study for the first time, and probably struggling with what the hell was actually done, sort of like a monthly statement from Bernie Madoff, and falling back to just reading the title again and hoping for the best. Yet, after reading the study enough times, I was able to actually figure out what had been done, and I'll start by quoting you from the authors' own summary of what they did, from the Methods section of the study on page 577 of Pediatrics in September 2004: 
 
"The study has been monitoring >14 000 Children who are from the geographic area formerly known as Avon, United Kingdom, and were delivered in 1991–1992. The age at which doses of thimerosal-containing vaccines were administered was recorded, and measures of mercury exposure by 3, 4, and 6 months of age were calculated and compared with a number of measures of Childhood cognitive and behavioral development covering the period from 6 to 91 months of age."
 
OK, I know. You have no idea what that means, I certainly didn't. So, I will use the kind of English most of us can understand so you can see how amazingly unbelievable this study really is:
 
-   100% of the children in this study were vaccinated

-   100% of the children in this study were vaccinated with the thimerosal-containing DTP vaccine

-   If you were a child who hadn't completed the full series of thimerosal-containing DTP shots, which in Britain is 3 doses, you weren't even in the study

-   The only variable considered, and I'm going to put ONLY in all-caps so you really hear me, the ONLY variable considered was the TIMING of the 3 doses of thimerosal-containing DTP vaccines given to kids

-   And, when I say timing, what I mean is they compared kids who had gotten these shots by 3 months, 4 months, and 6 months
 
That's it.
 
The timing of thimerosal-containing shots was explored. The authors are actually honest about this in their own conclusion to the study:
 
"This study, based on a large United Kingdom–based prospective cohort, shows no evidence of any harmful effect of an accelerated immunization schedule with thimerosal-containing vaccines."
 
There it is, clear as day: an accelerated schedule of TCVs. TIMING is the only variable this study considered.
 
One side point, for those of you who noticed. The IOM study came out in May 2004. This study was published in Pediatrics in September 2004, four months later. What gives? What gives is that the AAP did an excellent job of getting a crap study in front of their friends at the IOM to give them more ammunition to birth the hungry lie. 
 
A "Dose" of Reality
 
It's hard to write this piece, because it makes me lose even greater faith in our health authorities. I think about a guy like Dr. David Tayloe and I just want to know what's actually true:
 
- Is he the gullible guy who just believes what others say and repeats it?

- Is he so stupid that he's read all the science and believes it proves that vaccines don't cause autism?

- Does he know the science doesn't remotely say that, but thinks it's better to say so anyway and protect the vaccine program?
 
I don't know, but any of those reasons pretty much suck.
 
I mention above about giving a dose of reality, so I'm going to. But first, a question:
 
What is the purpose of science, and more specifically, of medical research?
 
I think the purpose of science and medical research is the betterment of the human race. To help us live longer, healthier, happier lies. To answer all the tough questions about what's good for us and what's bad for us. The customer of medical research is mankind.
 
If mankind is the customer here, I would make another argument. Mankind's most important members are babies and children. Agree? And, nothing is more painful for mankind or more detrimental to mankind's life, liberty, and happiness than a sick child. Ask any family.
 
So, here's some reality for you:
 
Terry has a daughter named Hannah. Through eighteen months, Hannah's pediatrician notes she is meeting all developmental milestones – a normal developing child. At nineteen months, Hannah gets taken to the pediatrician, presumably by her Mom, and she gets five shots in one visit: DTaP, Hib, MMR, Varivax, and IPV. A five shot visit? In the U.S., this happens thousands of times a day.
 
Suddenly, things for Hannah change. I'll let the now-famous court document tell the story from here:

"According to her mother's affidavit, Hannah developed a fever of 102.3 degrees two days after her immunizations and was lethargic, irritable, and cried for long periods of time. She exhibited intermittent, high-pitched screaming and a decreased response to stimuli. Terry spoke with the pediatrician, who told her that Hannah was having a normal reaction to her immunizations. According to Hannah's mother, this behavior continued over the next ten days, and Hannah also began to arch her back when she cried. 

On July 31, 2000, Hannah presented to the Pediatric Center with a 101-102 degree temperature, a diminished appetite, and small red dots on her chest. The nurse practitioner recorded that Hannah was extremely irritable and inconsolable. She was diagnosed with a post-varicella vaccination rash.

Two months later, on September 26, 2000, Hannah returned to the Pediatric Center with a temperature of 102 degrees, diarrhea, nasal discharge, a reduced appetite, and pulling at her left ear. Two days later, on September 28, 2000, Hannah was again seen at the Pediatric Center because her diarrhea continued, she was congested, and her mother reported that Hannah was crying during urination. On November 1, 2000, Hannah received bilateral PE tubes. On November 13, 2000, a physician at ENT Associates noted that Hannah was "obviously hearing better" and her audiogram was normal. On November 27, 2000, Hannah was seen at the Pediatric Center with complaints of diarrhea, vomiting, diminished energy, fever, and a rash on her cheek. At a follow-up visit, on December 14, 2000, the doctor noted that Hannah had a possible speech delay. 

Hannah was evaluated at the Howard County Infants and Toddlers Program, on November 17, 2000, and November 28, 2000, due to concerns about her language development. The assessment team observed deficits in Hannah's communication and social development. Hannah's mother reported that Hannah had become less responsive to verbal direction in the previous four months and had lost some language skills.

On December 21, 2000, Hannah returned to ENT Associates because of an obstruction in her right ear and fussiness. Dr. Grace Matesic identified a middle ear effusion and recorded that Hannah was having some balance issues and not progressing with her speech. On December 27, 2000, Hannah visited ENT Associates, where Dr. Grace Matesic observed that Hannah's left PE tube was obstructed with crust. The tube was replaced on January 17, 2001.

Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a pediatric neurologist, evaluated Hannah at the Kennedy Krieger Children's Hospital Neurology Clinic ("Krieger Institute"), on February 8, 2001. Dr. Zimmerman reported that after Hannah's immunizations of July 19, 2000, an "encephalopathy progressed to persistent loss of previously acquired language, eye contact, and relatedness." He noted a disruption in Hannah's sleep patterns, persistent screaming and arching, the development of pica to foreign objects, and loose stools. Dr. Zimmerman observed that Hannah watched the fluorescent lights repeatedly during the examination and would not make eye contact. He diagnosed Hannah with "regressive encephalopathy with features consistent with an autistic spectrum disorder, following normal development." Dr. Zimmerman ordered genetic testing, a magnetic resonance imaging test ("MRI"), and an electroencephalogram ("EEG").

Did you read that whole excerpt? Did you really read it? If you did, and if you are human, it rips your heart out. If you are the parent of a child with autism as I am, it more than rips your heart out, it causes you to die all over again. And, as we both know, Hannah's story is far from unique. In the autism world, it's the norm. I'd hazard to guess that Hannah's story is shared by several hundred thousand families in the US alone.
 
How does the experience above benefit mankind?
 
Can science help us out of this mess?
 
The Failure of Science and the Big Lie
 
As we all know, Hannah's Mom is a nurse and her Dad is a neurologist. I've never met the Polings nor have I ever talked to them. But, I know that Jon, Hannah's dad, was very much part of the mainstream medical establishment before seeing what happened to his daughter, as he himself has said.
 
I have no doubt that as Dr. Poling was watching these events unfold with his daughter that he was looking for answers through science and from the people and journals he trusted. And, I have little doubt that he found nothing.
 
Let me ask you a simple question, and I particularly want to ask it of the liars like David Tayloe, Paul Offit, Nancy Snyderman, and others who falsely reassure parents every day that everything is OK when everything is not OK. Please, a simple question:
 
Can you show me the science that would convince the Polings that it wasn't the vaccines?
 
Please. Show me. She got five vaccines in one day. She was never the same. Show me the science where you can proudly stand up and say, "Vaccines do not cause autism, I'm sorry about what happened to your daughter but it wasn't the vaccines, please read this." Is it the British study, the one that made me think I was on Neptune? Or, is it that one from CDC, the one where they were unable to determine anything? Which one should the Polings look at so they can move off of vaccines as a likely culprit to their daughter's regressive autism?
 
The lie needs to end. Those who have been telling the lie need to be called out. They need to be removed. Every day, another parent is falsely reassured because they listen to someone they think they can trust who is feeding the hungry lie.
 
It makes me so damn mad to write this piece, perhaps that's why it's so long, but really, I don't even know how to end it. The more I look at the details, the madder I get. Since I can't trust myself to end this piece in a thoughtful way, I will bring in Dr. Bernadine Healy, the former Director of the National Institutes of Health, herself an M.D. from Harvard and someone who directed the nation's largest organization dedicated to medical research.
 
Dr. Healy fits into this story because it was Hannah Poling's case that caused her to take a closer look at the controversy. Unlike many of the feeders of the lie, I have no doubt that Dr. Healy actually has read the science that many of her colleagues claim shows vaccines don't cause autism, and Dr. Healy didn't like what she learned at all. So, I'm going to finish with a quote from her, but not until I get one final request in here:
 
If you are reading this, and you can do something about all these liars who falsely reassure parents every day, please do. Thank you.
 
Here's Bernadine Healy, talking to CBS Evening News:

"We have to take another look at that hypothesis, not deny it. I think we have the tools today that we didn't have 10 years ago, 20 yrs ago, to try and tease that out and find out if there is a susceptible group…A susceptible group does not mean that vaccines are not good. What a susceptible group will tell us is that maybe there is a group of individual who shouldn't have a particular vaccine or shouldn't have vaccines on the same schedule…I don't believe that if we identify the susceptibility group, if we identify a particular risk factor for vaccines or if we found out that maybe they should be spread out a little longer, I do not believe that the public would lose faith in vaccines…

I think that the government or certain public officials in the government have been too quick to dismiss the concerns of these families without studying the population that got sick…I haven't seen major studies that focus on 300 kids who got autistic symptoms within a period of a few weeks of a vaccine…I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation…I think they have been too quick to dismiss studies in the animal laboratory either in mice, in primates, that do show some concerns with regard to certain vaccines and also to the mercury preservative in vaccines…The reason why they didn't want to look for those susceptibility groups was because they were afraid that if they found them, however big or small they were, that that would scare the public…I don't think you should ever turn your back on any scientific hypothesis because you're afraid of what it might show…

Populations do not test causality, they test associations. You have to go into the laboratory and you have to do designed research studies in animals…The fact that there is concern that you don't want to know that susceptible group is a real disappointment to me. You can save those children…The more you delve into it, if you look at the basic science, if you look at the research that's been done on animals.

If you also look at some of these individual cases and if you look at the evidence that there is no link what I come away with is the question has not been answered."

J.B. Handley is co-founder of Generation Rescue and a contributor to Age of Autism.


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Comments

Benedetta

Well I do not understand the 6 dollars for a vaccine deal.

I am a very nice person. My children's peds liked me before it all went south.

They liked to talk business with me - no I do not have a clue why.

They just received the federal subsidied to give vaccines when I brought my son in. They - yes both of them talked to me how this was wonderful for their bussiness, how it was really going to bring a lot of money into their practice. That it really was an up turn for them. They said it as people often do that win a lottery! No worries for happy days are here again.

On the upside for me - I could come in for a well visit and instead of running right across the road to get the vaccine - I could now get it all conveniently right there in their office.

I know this was 20 years ago, but does this sound like a doctor that is barely scrapping by in order to give a vaccine.

I swear to the Lord above that this is true. I not only got this converstion with them once but four times that year. That was June of 1986, by February of 1987 they were not looking me in the eye when they talked to me.

Brian Morse

Just wondering what was wrong with my past comments so that they were not made to appear. Thanks.

Stagmom

Of course "Well Visits" pay the bills. We used to go to doctors because we were SICK, not well! I'd like to see the doctor under 40 handle a case of the measles without bursting into tears - unlike my pediatrician who handled actual illness with deft care and skillful help for Mom.

It might not be the literal adminstration of the vaccine, but you get paid for an office visit.

My Mom did not take me to the pediatrician at 2 weeks, 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 9 months, 12 months, 15 months, 18 months and 24 months like a clock. I remember my MIL telling me, "You young mothers spend all your time taking your babies to the doctor."

Mark Blaxill

@ Brian "That said, if it were true that many patients would not come for routine office visits were it not for the administration of vaccines, than the income of many pediatricians would greatly decrease (though I am not sure if we would lose the majority of our incomes, as sick visits really, in general, pay better than well visits, on a time basis). Only in this way, is your statement partially correct."

Brian, this is the point. I'd turn your comment around. The common statement by pediatricians "I lose money on vaccines" is the main error. You forget that the primary reason the patient comes to your office is for the "well baby visit" the main "benefit" of which is vaccine adminstration. If you take away the well baby visit, you take away a large percentage of the income of the typical pediatrician.

Brian Morse

Comment on 1/9/09 article by JB Handley, "Tayloe...Feeding a Hungry Lie:" Interesting, probably with some truth to it... I wanted to clarify a statement that is not entirely true, namely that "The very people the AAP represents, pediatricians, derive the majority of their annual revenues from the administration of vaccines to children." As a pediatrician, I can tell you that the amount of money I make on vaccines specifically is so poor that if this comment is meant to state that my income is largely from vaccine reimbursements, it is incorrect. As an example, one large insurance company reimburses the flu vaccine at 32 cents over the price that the company reports to the CDC. While the AAP advocates for fair reimbursement for vaccines at about 17-25% above cost (not very high for a product sold at retail, which, of course, is not exactly the correct way to think about a vaccine), very few insurance companies even approach the lower end of this. On the other hand, there is some reimbursement for the "administration" cost of the vaccine (which can vary from $3 to about $15, with about $8 to $10 being typical). However, even these "generous" numbers for money directly received from the administration of vaccines is only from patients with non-HMO insurances. Many pediatricians, such as myself, see a fair proportion of children on public aid. In these cases, our office receives only $6.40 for administering a vaccine (the vaccine itself is free to me and the patient). Thus, there is no way that any pediatrician can survive, let alone make most of his or her income, from the administration of vaccines. That said, if it were true that many patients would not come for routine office visits were it not for the administration of vaccines, than the income of many pediatricians would greatly decrease (though I am not sure if we would lose the majority of our incomes, as sick visits really, in general, pay better than well visits, on a time basis). Only in this way, is your statement partially correct.

By the way, this is my first time reading any of this stuff, and I am not arguing with all of it (as I said before, there is likely to be some truth here), I just wanted to clarify this apparent misstatement.

Karyanne

"When hundreds of thousands of children are studied, the vaccinated children have the same rate of autism as the unvaccinated ones."

Sorry to be posting so late after the fact but I read this months ago, and again today.

Where are those studies of hundreds of thousands of children both vaccinated and unvaccinated???

Anyone?

I just made Apologia Science a fried on Facebook, now I'm seriously considering starting my 5th grader on their program next year. I have heard nothing but good things about Apolgia Science and I love the books I've read so far. I think it's the God haters who have a problem with Apolgia!

I'm assuming that most vaccine pushers are God haters, since no one with ethics and morals could possibly push such wicked and evil science, not knowingly they couldn't!

joe

continued from previous post I hope

Now as far as the Denmark study being a good study I will let someone more qualified answer that question than me Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto "As questionable as the US thimerosal study was, "it was an improvement on other studies, including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs," Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto, Professor of Public Health at UC Davis Medical School and Chair of the NIEHS panel, told reporter Dan Olmsted at UPI.That leaves very little for the CDC to go on in terms of proving that thimerosal and autism are not associated in any way"

It doe's appear this chair of the NIEHS panel doe's not agree with Paul profit or the Centers for the Destruction of Children get it CDC a little play on words there. and as far as any studies that was done in the VSD database by the CDC I will let the Dir. of the CDC herself take over from here "CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has delivered a potentially explosive report to the powerful House Appropriations Committee, in which she admits to a startling string of errors in the design and methods used in the CDC's landmark 2003 study that found no link between mercury in vaccines and autism, ADHD, speech delay or tics.Gerberding was responding to a highly critical 2006 report from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which concluded that the CDC's flagship thimerosal safety study was riddled with "several areas of weaknesses" that combined to "reduce the usefulness" of the study". This is the Dir. of the CDC 's response to the allegations that their flag ship studies were fatally flawed according to congress and the NEIHS "CDC concurs," Dr. Gerberding wrote in an undated mea culpa to Congress, (provided to me through a Capital Hill staffer)this was from an article from superman reporter David Kirby this next line is from me, ( "That leaves them with nothing left! Nothing" ) Except the new fraud that is apparently is being devised as we speak This is the CDC Dir. admitting that they have no science left to refute the autism thimerosal connection, but give them some more time, and they will produce good quality studies. I believe when they were first warned the autism rate was 1 in 10,000 they chose to ignore the warning, and every piece of research that they did in their words, was well designed robust studies. We are learning that they were useless. So I guess we can say at the least, The Dir. of the CDC was incompatant, and at the worse the Dir. was involved in a criminal cover up. But I do believe we have given them long enough time to investigate themselves. after all would you let ENRON investigate ENRON also I'm afraid if we give them anymore time we won't have any children left. from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 82 and that's not even taken into account a 4 to 1 ratio boy's to girls we in the U.S. should have the same penalties that China has, they put people to death when they are this incompatant. I think if there were consequences (example from China) for this kind of incompetence I believe our children would not be for sell to the highest bidder from big Pharma. as high profit guinea pigs Dad of Colton a severely vaccine damaged child that was mercury poisoned by the standard of care set by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on immunizations

joe

JB I called the AAP journal when I found out that verstraeten work was changed 4 or 5 times to no link, I asked the woman that answered the phone how could they put his work in their journal in his name when he has been working at GSK for three and a half years and not the CDC. Also they were in thimerosal litigation at that time? I asked is that not a conflict of interest? then I said what if anything would be a conflict of interest at your journal? She said that's a very good question sir I will have someone contact you. At that time I was thinking, I would get verstraitens work removed like they removed Dr.Wakefield for his perceived conflict. What happened next was from the twilight zone. The rang phone when I looked at the phone it said unknown name unknown number. I answered it, the man said I am the top doc. of this journal and I am telling you If you call us back if you bother us again on this issue there will be a knock at your door, and you know what that means!. I was stunned and speechless then I thought you just threatened me! So I asked what did you just say to me? and he said you heard me, and he hung up. Man I was bewildered, why did he even call me? I was thinking, When he did not have to. It remained a mystery until I was reading an email from the CDC and a woman was saying we have searched frantically and can't find anything to support us and the IOM meeting is in weeks we will have to go over seas to get us a study and they did. They went to Denmark we all know that fraud. And later I was reading I think it was Dr.Cochi from the CDC he was in a Email practically begging them to put the Denmark study in pediatrics. So it dawned on me this guy was probibility angry that called me, because the CDC was wanting to put another fraudulent study in his journal so that day he took it out on me. I the dad of a very severely vaccine damaged child all I was doing that day was asking a legitimate question. continued next post

Terri Lewis

Willie,

Thank you for your comments. I hope many, many people see them (and they will--readership here continues to grow).

You say that you are a physician and your wife is a nurse, and yet you, too, were in the dark.

What more will it take before people start looking at vaccines for their children like they look at any other medicine or medical procedure?

Vaccines have risks, and the current "program" is doing far more harm than good.

How stupid I feel, too, every day for not doing *any* homework and having no understanding of vaccines before we used them.

Terri Lewis

P.S. You are in good company. I met a doctor not too long ago with the exact same regrets--his son is quite affected with "moderate to severe" autism.

MinorityView

And all the babies who are dying of meningitis because the vaccines are causing serotype replacement...that is okay? In case you haven't heard of serotype replacement, it is a natural consequence of vaccines which displace bacteria that are a natural part of the human flora. Millions of people are carriers of these bugs, only a minuscule number become ill with meningitis (which is caused by a wide range of bacteria, but only if something goes wrong with the host). Humans cleverly remove one bug and, voila, another moves in and starts causing the same sort of problems in vulnerable hosts. So the real question is: do we keep adding more and more vaccines, or do we try to understand why some children are vulnerable to illness from bugs that usually are just part of the neighborhood?

This is why Prevnar is going from 7 bugs to 13, just as soon as they finish the testing. And in another 5 or 6 years they'll be up to 25 or 30. Insane.

Stagmom

Susan, that's rather an incongruous thought. No one wants to see a child die. The fact is, the very people named in the article have shown no compassion for those of us with children profoundly affected by autism.

And there are children who die from adverse reactions to vaccinations too. Equally tragic.

This isn't a contest for "what's more deadly." Don't reduce it to that.

Kim

Susan

Perhaps this author needs an anger management course. Or perhaps this author should attend the funeral of the seven-month-old baby who recently died of meningitis in Minnesota because his or her parents chose not to have him or her vaccinated, and explain to the parents that their baby is really, truly better off painfully dead than at a completely nonexistent risk for autism.

Jack

I'd really like to get my hands on those studies and be able to talk about them.

where can I get a list of the references for them?

Thanks in advance,

Dad Fourkids

I am going to disagree with Rachel concerning educational professionals being against biomedical and other therapies which can recover some kids because it threatens their bread and butter. While this may be true in some instances, in more instances these people would just as soon NOT be working with autistic kids, who can be very problematic being fully ambiulatory, perseverant to a fault, prone to complex behavioral outbursts including SIB and aggression, are at risk of eloping and very often do not respond to the types of therapies commonly taught at the colleges and universities these preofessionals were trained at.

Sped has a very high level of burnout, and the extensive data keeping that a proper program for autistic children entails coupled with the increasingly complex rules and policies spawned by each successive tweak fo IDEA and NCLB and the physically exhauting nature of working with these kids can quikly take its toll and will drive many out of the field.

This has only gotten worse as the number of children with autism has at least quadrupled since 1990.

Rachel Ford

"I have to agree with one of the posters here- A lot of people have got a lot of pleasure out of helping the autistic kids with THERAPIES !!!! Sort of like the song :
"Because I think its just fantastic, to help this poor deeeeaaar spastic" The result has been delay in recognition of the true nature of autism."

So true--when you talk to many autism therapists (speech, ABA/ABV, TEACCH, special educators) about how your child is reovering/has recovered from autism through dietary and biomedical interventions, they don't want to hear it. It threatens their careers and "expertise"! Not to mention the pleasure they derive from working with these children, many of whom, as we know, are exceptionally sweet, interesting, eccentric, and intelligent. A lot of ego gratification can be derived from "making progress" with children with autism--but *recovery*? That's not their goal!

Jessica G

Thank you, JB for taking the time to read the studies and write this. Are they ever going to resolve all this? I know my son was affected by vaccinations but don't have the documented evidence to take it to court. What do all of us in that boat do to turn the tide? Somebody else said it correctly - only legal action has a chance of changing things.

anonymous antivaccinationist

Giving false representation of facts that allow others to reasonably act upon those representations, is tortious. Plain and simple.

While I agree, JB, that the lie needs to end - I fear that without legal action, it will not.

AA

John Fryer

Let's not forget that the Verstraeten paper DID show a huge cause and effect vaccines/mercury/autism with the result that the regulators SAT on the paper for many years and DID NOT publish.

Then they moved the junior and temporary researcher into a top position in a vaccine company.

They doctored the figures many times until it came out right in the sense that it was ok for vaccines to continue.

They published a fraudulent paper that said mercury improves your IQ.

Than they LOST the data.

Then they got US government to LIE. The paper is OK and there is no cause to think that it is FRAUD.

The published paper CLEARLY states Verstraeten works for CDC but he was never fully employed there and had spent many years in his new job at Vaccine HQ prior to the paper being published with NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of this simple fact.

How many top officials in the Vaccine HQ are going to say our vaccine; no ANY vaccine is a HEALTH HAZARD and if you repeat it enough times ANAPHYLAXIS is bound to occur.

ANAPHYLAXIS = SUDDEN UNEXPECTED DEATH

How many of these do we get each year?

Answer: TENS OF THOUSANDS

RIP: LITTLE CHILDREN

ROT IN HELL: MURDERING LYING you know who you are.

John Fryer

THAT BRISTOL STUDY

Yes, I would agree it is four X rubbish and I had a stand in row with people that brought the accelerated vaccine schedule to the UK.

It goes like this:

People are dying at 3 months from SIDS.

We got to do something.

OK here's 180 000 pounds look through some papers publish your results and we will ACT.

3 months later this LADY publishes the recommendation that you vaccinate at 2 months.

And WOW it WORKED HOLY MOSES.

No one dies at 3 months, ALLEHULIAH!

Today everyone in the UK dies at 2 months.

What the four X are we doing to our little children.

I GOT IT!

WE are FOUR X KILLING THEM.

jen

Loved your analogy with the chocolate chip/no chip cookies. This really helps to explain the fundamental problem with the studies. I just saw an interview with an ex-researcher and vaccine developer on "vaccine liberation" and that was a pretty interesting piece to read ( he wouldn't reveal his identity out of fear).
I agree with someone who mentioned that it would be soooo great to have some kind of summary of all the lame studies claiming no link (mercury to autism or vaccines to autism) with a short explanation as to why they are lame. My letter got into the Calgary Herald (anti- Garasil) which was a nice surprise. I basically said that probably the Catholic parents had spoken in shunning the vaccine at private clinics because they may have heard of all the horrible side effects on VAERS and that maybe they are beginning to question ingredients such as MSG and aluminum. They are too many kids out there with seizures, asthma, ADHD, autism, aspergers and learning disabilities.

Cherry Sperlin Misra

Friends, I dont live in the U.S., so I cant really follow the trend- Has there been an increase lately in claims that vaccines are safe? If so, you have to wonder about the timing- It is likely to be related to the coming Vaccine Court decisions.

In India, the opposite is happening and I wonder why- We have a full page in my daily newspaper that covers science topics. Up till a few months back a week never passed without an article about autism-naturally it was all the "Gene Found" and "Early Diagnosis" line. In fact, articles were as common as thrice a week. Now, I think about two months have passed with almost no autism articles . It has become a challenge for me- Each morning I open the paper and find no article. What does this mean I wonder? From where do these articles eminate ?

I have to agree with one of the posters here- A lot of people have got a lot of pleasure out of helping the autistic kids with THERAPIES !!!! Sort of like the song :
"Because I think its just fantastic, to help this poor deeeeaaar spastic" The result has been delay in recognition of the true nature of autism.

Bob

Thanks for the great article. There is one aspect of this debate that has me baffled. It is clear that the CDC, NIH, and AAP have no interest in sponsoring a study that compares vaccinated with never vaccinated children. However, why hasn't such a study been performed by an independent not for profit organization such as Autism Speaks? Well, O.K. maybe not Autism Speaks but certainly there must be an entity somewhere with the resources and desire to learn the truth.

Willie

Your peice is well written JB however, and I have said this on this post several times now, you could have simply stated that there has never been 1 single prospective randomized double blind study done with vaccinated and unvaccinated children not one and this is the gold standard (EBM)evidence based medicine and everybody knows it
I am sorry for your loss JB. MMR and other vaccines cause autism. This really is not debatable anymore the circumstantial evidence is huge. People, lay people and many physicians simply choose to ignore the scientific evidence which in my opinion is overwhelming and will not acknowledge that the proper studies clearing vaccines have not been done and will never be done because they cannot be done because vaccines cause autism. I too was in the dark and I am a physician and my wife is a nurse we are both tortured by our previous lack of knowledge and the injury to our precious daughter. I am suing my pediatrician though as well as the hospital where my child was given the vaccine. I am a serious person and I will defend my child and my family and I will make sure this pediatrician and the hospital get an education no matter what it cost me.

JB if you really want to get pissed off look into why they are pushing the vaccines because it is not for child safety it is to get more research money for the AIDS vaccine that they will never get. Should you have any doubt about the voracity of this claim read the work of Liam Scheff. Do you really think that there is a coincidence between the David Tayloe being chief of pediatrics and him being pro vaccine? All government Gays are pro vaccine, Donna Shalala, Hillary Clinton and the republicans that are pro vaccine are being paid off. That is why to have any effective discouragment for participation in this massive lie there has to be private voter legislation ( as opposed to waiting for an elected official to promote legislation) that not only repeals and overturns what congress has done to protect the drug companies but also provides for jail time. Once you put 1 of these people in jail the canaries will start singing my friend, loud and clear. This requires team work and courage but we can do it.

Raymond Gallup


The following information:

SSI RECIPIENTS
COUNTS FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN
RECEIVING BENEFITS
FOR AUTISTIC & OTHER PERVASIVE DEVELOPMENT DISORDERS
AS OF DECEMBER IN 2002 - 2006



Year Total *


2002 45,684
2003 53,358
2004 63,031
2005 73,126
2006 84,240


* INCLUDES PERSONS AGE 65 AND OVER WITH CLAIM TYPE AND CHILDREN 21 AND UNDER

Birgit Calhoun

I have read most of the studies you cite. I agree completely with everything you say. I hope your article is not just preaching to the choir. I am equally as frustrated as you with the lack of understanding of the science behind why the vaccine connection is as plausible as it is. Which brings me to a comment on the comment about Picchichero's investigation of measurements of mercury after vaccination and there not being very much detectable mercury. I have read that study as well. An answer to that is that Picchichero may have measured, but he didn't measure correctly. There is a Canadian researcher, Graham George, who I think is now back in Calgary Canada. He used to work at the Stanford Linear Accelerator where he did studies on mercury and specifically ethyl-mercury. I heard him lecture on the subject at SLAC. He found that it takes less than half an hour for ethyl-mercury to reach the brain. As some of us know organic mercury goes to the brain very easily, but it takes a very long time coming back (20 years) because of the nature of the blood-brain barrier and the conversion of it to inorganic mercury once it gets there. What I am saying is that Picchichero didn't measure the mercury after vaccination soon enough. I don't believe Picchichero took Graham George's study into account. Graham George is from Canada, and our liars don't read things coming from outside their peer group, large as it may be. Sincerely Birgit Calhoun

Deb

Thank you so much for putting this all in one place for us to read and putting it into language we non-medical types can understand.

Let's face it, there is more to vaccines than just Autism. ADHD, Asthma, Eczema,
Allergies, and learning disability numbers have increased also.

I wish the medical community would see the light and encourage methods to naturally boost the immune systems of children instead of injecting them with multiple doses of vaccines. How about doing a comparison study of general wellness between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations?
I'm certain Dr. Offit would be disappointed with the conclusion. How disappointing for him to learn that unvaccinated kids are healthier!

Broken Link

Offit is back at it with this new publication, which you should read carefully

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19128068?ordinalpos=2&itool=Email.EmailReport.Pubmed_ReportSelector.Pubmed_RVDocSum

and here's something about the Polings you should also comment on:

http://jcn.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/23/9/1090

Raymond Gallup


"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." - Abraham Lincoln

“Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society.” --- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Per.............
http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/with/keyword/liar/

Amanda Peet is a lousy actress and should go back to acting school to develop her acting abilities and concentrate on that rather than lying about vaccines being safe (on TV and elsewhere). The doctors mentioned should follow her to acting school since as liars they are equally not convincing. All of them could try better to develop their lying skills at acting school.

I think as time goes on the US Federal Court will have revealing results in the over 5,000 + pending lawsuits by parents regarding vaccines and autism. I hope and pray every one of them will be decided on behalf of the parents. If not, I'm sure there will be lots that are.

What will these pro-vaccine "experts" say then and what lies will they come up with?

As I mentioned before, I hope every parent that has a child with autism will look into filing for SSI and Medicaid/Medicare when their child reaches 18. It is important for the family, the child/adult and the autism community at large. Once there are very high numbers of families collecting Federal benefits, hopefully the public will sit up and notice.

Ray Gallup


Craig Willoughby

Oh, Pamela. Excellent point!

I love this line that you quoted:
"Our job as physicians is making sure we consider all possibilities, particularly on a condition as baffling as autism"

All possibilities except vaccines. Those don't count.

Diane Farr


This is my favorite lie. "Mercury is good for you"

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/280.html

Pamela

More on Tayloe's Lies

Back in May AoA ran a post called "The Bruno's" which was a take-off on the Darwin Awards and asked for nominations.

I nominated Dr. Tayloe, highlighting some of his biggest LIES. http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/the-brunos.html

I know I am being redundant, as I have submitted this comment to several posts, but I take such great pleasure in running it everytime I see Tayloe’s name. It just feels good to expose the lies…Thank you J.B. for doing just that in this amazing piece.

Here's my nomination/comment to that post.

I have three nominations;

1. Dr. David Tayloe, President Elect of the AAP for stating in a recent article titled, *Doctor says finger-pointing isn't an answer to the 'whys' of autism* that “One of the biggest misperceptions, the physician said, centers around the belief that vaccines cause autism. Studies being done in other countries, however, are not showing a linkage between the two,” he added. He then goes on to say, “Other connections have been drawn between autism and the environment. Specifically, lead and mercury issues as well as aluminum and pesticides. Those are not easy to study or draw conclusions from, Tayloe said. He wraps with, "Our job as physicians is making sure we consider all possibilities, particularly on a condition as baffling as autism," he said. "I think we have all got to work together, share ideas and come together on what is the best medical evidence for dealing with this." What? Other connections have been drawn...like mercury and aluminum in the environment yet we don’t need to point the finger at vaccines, which contain both. Huh? Never mind the "studies being done in other countries" comment. Where are the studies that have been done IN THIS COUNTRY?

2. Again, I nominate Dr. David Tayloe for recently stating on the Today Show, that all vaccines are safe for all children. Dr. Tayloe, have you recently read the pharm insert for any given vaccine? And why does the Vaccine Adverse Reactions Reporting System exist if all vaccines are safe for all children?

3. Oh…again Dr. David Tayloe for stating on Larry King’s Vaccine Debate that he has never reported a case to VAERS, as though this is evidence that adverse reactions don’t occur. Yet his own father lost the largest vaccine injury law suit levied against a physician for over three million dollars. Maybe like you said about Offit, I nominate Dr. David Tayloe for simply being David Tayloe.


Richard

Wow, when is your first book coming out?
I have a suggestion for the name,The Big Fat Lie That Vaccines Do Not Cause Autism
Keep up the good work.

they know they're going down

These liars are going down and they know it. Maybe if they get in a circle and keep chanting "Vaccines do not cause autism" over and over they think they can keep their sinking boat afloat a little while longer.

The more desperate they get the more they are going to alienate their audience. The flu shot campaign this year has been a failure with a very low compliance rate despite the a monumental effort by public health officials and big pharma.

I think consumers are starting to catch on and starting to back off...

Great article!!

Gatogorra

I've been waiting to read a breakdown like this forever. Thank you. My brain is now better organized (and I have an image of the "Big Lie" as a kind of extra sleazy, smelly Jabba the Hutt, trembling gelatinously as it gets ready to explode).

I second the request for the whole chronological list of vaccine apologist studies with short explanations of why they're garbage. If someone does this, I'll make it rhyme and set it to a Scottish reel as a memorization tool (and for the yucks).

jzea

The general public sees organizations like the AMA and AAP as public "watchdogs", working to protect the population from harm. It's (way past)due that these organizations are exposed for what they really are: Trade Unions. Closed-shop trade unions, in fact, with enormous appetites for issues that promote their limitless self-interest. They are responsible for the historic and ongoing struggles of competing fields--any non-allopathic, natural health avenue including nutrition-based therapy, chiropractic, homeopathy, even acupuncture. They have told many, many big lies, all to the detriment of our nation's health. And now they promise to cover the globe with the same strategies. God help us. And thanks for a great article.

Theresa

Brilliant writing and investigating, JB. It reminds me of something Michael Pollan wrote in "In Defense of Food": "Scientific paradigms are never easy to change, even when they begin to crack under the weight of contradictory evidence. Few scientists ever look back to see where they and their paradigms have gone astray; rather, they're trained to keep moving forward ... patching up and preserving whatever of the current consensus can be preserved." The truth is, most scientists whose work is published today are not interested in finding the truth about autism (or nutrition, as Pollan explains in his book); they're interested in renewing their federal grants and getting more money from industry.

Speaking of big, hungry lies, how about the lie of the flu shot? In the same article (http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2008/10/06/kids-flu-shot-largely-ineffective-over-past-few.html) that notes that flu shots have been largely ineffective in children for the past several years, and that the strains of the flu in the shots have not been the prevailing strains circulating each season, reporter Steven Reinberg still insists that the flu shot "may be important" because some children die of flu-related staph infections. The truth (which wouldn't profit Big Pharma at all) is that if the shot doesn't protect against the flu, then it doesn't matter how many people die of flu-related ailments--the shot will still not prevent those deaths. In fact, the reverse may be true: the shot may be helping the flu virus to mutate faster and infect more people, or the shot may help strains not included in the shot--particularly more lethal strains--to become more prevalent, as has been the case with Prevnar increasing the prevalence of serotype 19a of pneumonia (http://www.pharmalot.com/2007/09/wyeths-prevnar-may-cause-superbug/). But that little truth wouldn't stop the CDC, the NJ Health Department, or Big Pharma from pumping kids full of mercury and toxins, now, would it?

Julie Obradovic

JB,

Fabulous piece. Well done.

Curious...Can you put together a post of all the studies they site as evidence, listing what they CLAIM it says versus what it actually does? You could provide a link to the study perhaps (if possible) and bullet points much like this article.

For example:
UK Thimerosal Study
CLAIMS: Thimerosal doesn't cause autism.
IN REALITY: Only shows the timing of thimerosal isn't implicated.

What a powerful tool for all of us to have in our back pocket.

WE SHALL OVERCOME

THANKS for the chronological compilation of lies. I've been waiting to read something like this for years. It is "Exhibit A" in the case that will bring down those criminals. No one of those cited can keep a straight face and, much less, fight their way out of this exposé. No jury would help them.

I am glad to see that AOA is bumping up the pressure further all the time. The time for retribution is overdue.

nhokkanen

Bravo, J.B. Thank you for pointing out the institutional wishful thinking being passed off by vaccine policymakers as unassailable truth.

We autism parents are not keeping our part of the unspoken vaccination bargain. We're supposed to believe that public health workers' hearts bleed for humanity, which absolves them of responsibility for their failures. We cannot have the audacity to call our government on the carpet for damaging a generation of children.

Too few people have noticed that no one from the CDC is leaving the office and looking at the actual children with "autism," or reading their medical records, or talking with their doctors. Instead taxpayers and media get press releases from cooked books.

It's interesting to read the e-mail exchanges between the CDC's Robert Chen and the UK's Elizabeth Miller, as they colluded to design another statistical confection to protect their professional interests. Here is Miller quoted from a FOIA'd e-mail document:

"We have identified all the codes that we think are relevant to the outcomes of interest and as you will see have flagged them as follows
1 = child psychoses
2 = specific psychopathological symptoms
3 = emotional disturbance
4 = hyperkinetic syndrome
5 = specific developmental delay
6 = mental retardation"

If vaccines are so safe, why look for these signs of damage?

karenatlanta

Speaking of hungry lies...
The world of homeschooling has it's own beast....
While asking simple questions to the Apologia science writer Dr. Jay Wile
(Apologia science books) I got this:
For those of you that don't homeschool, Jay Wile's books are top sellers. His highschool forum has 66K students logging in.
...Dr. Weldon claims there are "conflicts of interest" with the scientists involved in studies that clearly show no link between thimerosal and vaccination. That might be true for one or two individuals, but it is not true for the vast majority. This is easily shown by the fact that many of the SAME AUTHORS who are on the studies that showed a flaw in the old rotavirus vaccine (causing it to be removed from the market) are also on the studies showing no link between vaccination and autism (see above link). Could you please explain to me how these same authors can be "in league" with the big, bad pharmaceutical companies when it comes to thimerosal-containing vaccines, but not when it comes to the rotavirus vaccine?

You seem to think that I haven't looked into this issue, but I have - clearly more than you have. Did you read the studies I have referenced? Did you read all the other studies related to vaccines? I have. I have also read Neil Miller's book, Harris Coulter's book, Dr. Weldon's material, and Dr. Mercola's discusions of vaccines. After looking at both sides, I can say that the anti-vaccine side often misuses science and sometimes out-and-out lies about what the studies say. An excellent compilations of such lies can be found here:

http://www.geocities.com/issues_in_immunization/fearmongers/opposition_to_immunization.htm

and you can find my "short list" here:

http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_lies.html

I am sorry that your son has Autism, and mercury poisoning might very well have contributed to it. However, we know that the mercury poisoning was not the result of vaccination. When mercury concentrations are measured in children right after vaccination, they are well within the EPA's limits (Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: a descriptive study. Pichichero ME, Cernichiari E, Lopreiato J, Treanor J. The Lancet 2002;360(9347):1737-41.) When these children are followed for several weeks, it is shown that the mercury from vaccines is eliminated rapidly (Mercury levels in newborns and infants after receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines. Pichichero ME, Gentile A, Giglio N, et al. 2008. Pediatrics 121(2) e208-14.). When hundreds of thousands of children are studied, the vaccinated children have the same rate of autism as the unvaccinated ones. Thus, it is CLEAR that vaccines are not related to autism.
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Nothing is clear Dr. Wile and the debate far from over. The only thing that is clear to me is that I am never again buying an Apologia science book.

Lisa

I don't like Neptune. I want off this stinking planet.

Twyla

What an excellent, outstanding article. It needs to be read far and wide by journalists and politicians and doctors and scientists and parents. I am so so tired of hearing people say it has been proven that vaccines don't cause autism. It truly is infuriating. Thank you for laying this out so well.

More information on those 14 or 16 studies would be great. I know a lot of this is available at Generation Rescue, but to just point to where the info is, or more articles to say "here is what one of these studies actually says" would be great.

Just the other day I heard a very intelligent, seemingly wonderful hard working conscientious autism expert refer to the recent study of gut biopsies in children as proving that the MMR doesn't cause autism. (And this expert does look at autism as involving the whole body, and turns to a gastroenterologist to help with behavioral issues.) As I recall, this study looked at 25 children -- some with autism, some with IBD, and some with neither -- and found measles virus in the gut of one child with autism & IBD, and one child with IBD but no autism. How on earth does this prove that the MMR does not cause autism? If anything it points to persistent measles infection in the GI tract as a factor in both autism and IBD.

I just can't understand how the scientific method has for the most part obfuscated learning about vaccines and biomedical treatments. I know a lot of it is vested interest and deliberate obfuscation, but it seems there are also a lot of people who do not have vested interests but are incredibly narrow minded in how they look at evidence.

Anyway, thanks for writing about this with controlled yet appropriate fury combined with such sharp intelligence.

Andrea

A worthy read indeed. Thanks for doing your homework JB. But, jeez it only makes me angrier about what happened to our kids to know the "devilish details".

I hope you sent a copy to all the liars. I wonder if any of them have the balls to try and defnd theemselves for perpetrating this lie.

People need to go to jail over this.

I believe Tayloe and the rest of them certainly know this to be the truth. It's defend the vaccine program at all costs. It would be interesting to poll these people to see who actually read these studies they always point to as vaccine- autism exoneration. I bet hardly any of them. And, I bet they were hoping no one like yourself ever would either.

Besides, why stop the autism epidemic? Look at all the jobs it has created. I mean, people have made careers for themselves due to the explosion of autism. Look at the money it generates. Autism is profitable. Plain and simple, people getting rich off of our kids misery.

They'll continue to ride the "Lie" train until it crashes into a brick wall and explodes.


claudine Liss

PS Home with my son today and off to acupuncture. His chronic sinus condition is acting up. Off to another specialist next week in NYC!!!! Thank you vaccines!

claudine Liss

Brilliant piece! Painful to read beyond words. To me, the whole system has been corrupted. Germany under the Nazi regime was totally and fully corrupted. How most in our medical community are allowing this to happen to children boggles my mind. I have looked back at many human atrocities and many powerful people capable of making a difference failed to act over and over and over.....I am raising my children to be cautious of everything that goes into their bodies and to question everything where power and money are involved. I look forward to the day that the American public stands up and revolts and takes back their health and foremost the health of their children.

Sheri

Thank you JB, thank you.

There are days when I think I simply don't have it in me to help others and be a part of the fight, as I struggle to heal my own children. But you help light the fire within me. We must, *I* must, keep fighting.

Maurine Meleck

A brilliant piece--I feel every emotion imaginable-I haven't read the studies in their entirety-but i will print your piece and tack it on my wall-and make copies and see that lots of people get the copies--and do something and then do something more to change this God awful predicament we are all in. Thank you.
Maurine Meleck, home with Joshua today who got suspended for biting someone in school yesterday. I don't condone biting in general, but I'd condone his biting Tayloe.
Can you get me him in person?

Harry Hofherr

Brilliant. Thank you for putting into words what so many have believed for so long. It should renew and invigorated anyone who is tired from this long fight.

Angie

Great FREAKING ARTICLE! I swear, it keeps getting better and better every day here! I think this is exactly what all of us have been trying to say, but put in your style, its an all in one stop article for those people who 'deny' or practice consensus science...I want to see their faces and our their stumbling answers when presented with this exact article. I cant wait to pass this out to my consensus (and 'well we discussed it with our doc and they are fine with it) family!
Thanks!
Keep up the great work!
Angie
Mom to Ethan, Alex, and Megan

Kathy

WOW ... I'm speechless. Your piece is unbelievable. On the verge of vomiting as I read all the details put so concisely in one blog post ... I have to share, you made me laugh when you said "am I on *@Cking Neptune." It's hard to believe we are free Americans. I just hope and pray that Tom Dashle can do something ... I'd love to see people behind bars for robbing so many children of their health and in turn life. Destorying children and families for profits. I mean it's so much worse than what the tobacco industry did ... so much worse - I put it right up there with genocide. All because of money ...

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