People need to understand that this planet we live on has finite resources. There is no way a healthy ecosystem can sustain multiple billions of people. The ideal population for living in homeostasis with other species in a sustainable way is 3.5 billion people (that means living a 1st world lifestyle). We have surpassed that figure and are over 7 billion. Collapse is what happens when human species fails to respect other species.

The best thing we can do is to adopt attrition of human beings. We either learn to live with the other inhabitants of this planet or we all bring this planet into total extinction. We ARE in the 6th extinction. Enjoy.

The Club of Rome is the UN think tank focused on depopulation, based on the much touted lie that the world is overpopulated.

President Jimmy Carter was a member, as is our ex UK Prime Minister,
Tony Blair. If you've been schooled that the earth is above max carrying capacity, then a few million deaths, via war or vaccines, is a boon for Mother Gaia.

www.green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.html

Click on: "these quotes and excerpts" at the bottom.

Benedetta,

It's even worse. Whatever was in the nurse's mind when she wrote the note, thirty years later she testified that her sole concern was that the mother was indifferent toward her child--even though the nurse also admitted that the baby's hands would periodically turn "black" when the nurses were feeding her. Black?

That Waneta, she doesn't smile enough; when she does smile it's because she relishes the attention. She's smarter than she makes you think, with her hair that's all fallen out. Such a manipulator. Always complaining about her health problems because she wants you to feel sorry for her. It's just me, me, me all the time with Waneta.

Waneta died of pancreatic cancer after three years in prison.

I'm reading _The Death of Innocents_ by Firstman and Talan, a book about the deaths of five of Waneta Hoyt's infants and her conviction many years later for murdering them. The doctor who championed the role of sleep apnea in SIDS, Dr. Steinschneider, comes in for quite a shellacking too. Two of Hoyt's children, Molly and Noah, were monitored extensively for apnea by Steinschneider in hospital and died shortly after being released to their parents' care.

Though at least some of the deceased infants were found to have physical problems such as edema and pneumonia, the prosecution either attributed them to smothering or discounted them. So long, Waneta. In your next life make sure you only talk to the cops with a lawyer present.

The authors tell us that these kids were healthy until their psycho mother got her hands on them. That's the premise of the book, after all. So I was surprised that they included this nurse's note on 2 month-old Molly made hours before her release from hospital:

"...Right eye tearing slightly during feeding....The baby was able to focus on moving object today and respond to it. I discussed my concern for this baby with Dr. Steinschneider this A.M. At times Molly will not respond to her surroundings at all--her head is turned to the left and she has a glassy stare. At these times the baby totally lacks affect and appears retarded. At other times she has been known to 'coo' and watch the mobile. She _rarely_ smiles in response to another person. The interaction between mother and baby is almost nil in my opinion."

Does that sound like a healthy baby? To me it sounds like the kid is having seizures and is on the road to ASD. It's not because the mom is doing anything; the authors are careful to tell us that she only comes every third or fourth day. And the nurses watch her like a hawk when she's there because three of her babies have already died.

No reviewer seems to have noticed that there was something pretty wrong with this baby. Probably didn't get that far. The book's kind of long.

I've just read _Stolen Innocence_ by John Batt, an account of Sally Clark's conviction for murdering her two baby sons, Christopher and Harry. Harry, her second son, was found dead a few hours after immunization with DTP, Hib and polio vaccines. A toxicology report (concealed from her defense) showed that Harry died from a systemic Staphylococcus aureus infection. (The first son, Christopher, died a year earlier, about three weeks after immunizations.)

S. aureus, it seems, is often associated with "SIDS": http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0928824499000772 . I've glanced at an article about cross-reactivity between S. aureus and vaccine components, but I'm wondering if the answer is simpler than that. Is it possible that S. aureus was present as a vaccine contaminant?

Christopher, like Harry, had a running nose at the time of his death and had had a copiously bleeding nose two weeks after vaccination. I'm not aware of any toxicology reports on him.

Eleven days after my son had a DPT vaccine way back in 1982, he reacted with high pitch screaming, convulsions, acting inconsolable, and was out of it for a week....he never came back...never....seizures, autism, (later in life suffering heart problems due to long term seizures) etc....when I asked Dr Geier what was wrong with that year, he told me it had the most reactions and deaths ever. I want to strangle everyone who thought this was a good vaccine. Clearly, Dtap isn't much better, since on package inserts it is known to cause autism. In rats, they convulse and die on days eleven to fourteen...so where is my justice? When the VAERS says my son shouuld have died or convulsed on day one to three? Yet, clearly, rats get the better shaft than my son, at least SCIENCE acknowledges what they did to them?

There was a time when I believed the poisoning of our children via thimerosal was an accident. Just another example of American incompetance. But since the news of the Merck memo and Simpsonwood file and now this lovely article, I am certain that the pharmafia knew all and just didn't care.

THANK YOU for posting this. I remember reading about Wyeth's change in strategy after the Tennessee DPT/SIDS incident years ago, in Neil Miller's "Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective", but have never been able to find the source to confirm it.

It is also equally apalling that the vaccine manufacturers do not have to disclose the size of each vaccine lot, so a proper comparison and analysis could be made with respect to adverse reactions. But of course they wouldn't want us to be able to do this.

Pooch please contact me I would like to learn more about the vaccine - e coli link as my son also had e coli in his urine at 3 months of age. [email protected]

after my son had his MMR/varivax seizures I was in a Quest lab in our long journey of testing, in the waiting room was another mom with a little boy around the same age but from 3 towns away, he too also had seizures post MMR/varivax and was in getting blood work-up for her son. Fast forward to 1st grade 4 out of 35 first grade boys ALL HAD SEIZURES post MMR/varivax.

A friend's ASD daughter 3 months older than my son were both hospitalized AT THE SAME TIME/Same hospital- post Hep B for E.coli in urine my son at 1 month of age(his first Hep B) she after her 2nd booster, same pediatrician E. Coli cultured out in her urine as well. Surprise-NOT.

John,

You ask, "Shouldn't this be criminal?"

And, of course, it is.

But the government and Big Phama keep on investigating themselves and they keep on concluding that they're innocent.

Apparently, even the openly criminal behavior at Simpsonwood has been exonerated.

So who are we to question that?

Once you accept the basic premise that it's okay to actively hurt some people for the (often theoretical) good of other people, even if you only intend to sort of "accidentally" let a few be hurt (e.g., through "very rare" vaccine damage) the logical ends of that thinking include further harm, injury, murder and even genocide, usually for ever-expanding groups of people other than "one's own."

Thus, as was expressed here at AoA very recently, people report that friends and family members are "sorry" that our children were harmed, but they also see it as a necessary evil that other children (ours) should suffer so that their own children may be protected.

And again, it's one thing to accept a relatively small risk to one's own child for a relatively large benefit to that same child, but it's morally wrong to knowingly impose a risk on any child that is greater than the potential benefit to that child.

By that measure, much (most, or possibly all) multiple infant vaccination, under most circumstances, is morally wrong when performed by a knowledgeable person who fully understands that the risk for damage to the individual outweighs any potential benefit for that individual.

And that would pretty much describe current immunization practices in the U.S., U.K., and certain other "civilized" countries.

Please keep on commenting.

It's so refreshing to hear the truth now and again.

Even when stated politely, in the form of the question: "Shouldn't this be criminal?"

Terri Lewis

Shouldn't this be criminal? Something like assualt or even murder!

Mark, not as deep a sleep as the children who died.... Then the Back to Sleep campaign came along to disguise the changes in vaccines that helped lowered SIDS deaths. Machiavellian.

Ugh. This is not what I wanted to read right before breakfast. Now I have a stomach ache.

Cathy Jameson

I remember hearing about this method of scattering distribution several years ago and I think it is done with all vaccines, not just the DPT. And to prove it, I did a search at the VAERS site using the scant few lot numbers my son's pediatrician managed to record in the file and discovered that in one case, two other children had a reaction to the same lot number as my son. All three of us reside in completely different states.

Another thing I heard around the same time is that they won't disclose how many doses were provided for a particular lot number, also making it hard to prove a 'hot lot' since three children out of a 50-dose lot is different than three children out of say, a 200-dose lot.