Candy_syringe_2Editor's note: I received the following e-mail earlier this month. I followed up by asking this "autism Mom" if we could use her name with this fascinating research but did not hear back, so we are publishing it without her name. I'd be very interested to hear feedback on this piece.
-- Dan Olmsted


Dear Mr. Olmsted,

I am an autism Mom who occasionally dabbles in online medical research (usually spawned by reading one of the great articles on your site and other mostly autism sites as well).  As of late, I happened to be perusing the ingredients list (prescription information or package
insert) of several pediatric vaccinations.

Based solely on the list found HERE, I noted five (5) vaccines that indicated occurrences of (new onset) diabetes mellitis or type II after administering the vaccination.  Those five (5) vaccinations and the link to the prescribing information and corresponding page number are:

1)  M-M-R(R) II (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live) by Merck & Co., Inc.
-  See: Adverse Reactions, Endocrine System - Page 7

2)  PEDIARIX(R) [Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Adsorbed,  Hepatiti s B (Recombinant) and Inactivated Poliovirus Vaccine Combined] by GlaxoSmithKline  -  See: Adverse Reactions - Page 13

3)  BOOSTRIX(R) (Tetanus Toxoid, Reduced Diphtheria Toxoid and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine, Adsorbed) by GlaxoSmithKline  -  See: Serious Adverse Events in All Safety Studies - Page 10

4)  HAVRIX (R) (Hepatitis A Vaccine) by GlaxoSmithKline  -  See: Adverse Reactions, Clinical Trials Experience - Page 5

5)  Prevnar(R) Pneumococcal 7-valent Conjugate Vaccine (Diphtheria
CRM197 Protein) by Wyeth-Ayerst  -  See: Adverse Reactions, Pre-Licensure Clinical Trial Experience - Page 15

Please note that I did not pull the information on vaccines (in the table again found here:
under the categorie s Anthrax; Rabies; Typhoid Fever; Varicella Zoster (Herpes Zoster/Shingles) or Yellow Fever.  I omitted these simply because (to the best of my knowledge) they are not commonly administered.  Also, there were two (2) or three (3) vaccinations whose links to the package insert information were no longer working, so I did not check those, either.

After reading the article "Charting the Type II Diabetes Epidemic:
Trends among Children Receiving Medicaid in Kentucky." at the website of NLM (National Library of Medicine) Gateway - - one can deduce that health officials find diabetes mellitis (type II) to be very commonplace amongst children in minority and poverty level populations stating specifically Medicaid recipients.  My best guess would be that the vast majority of children depending upon health coverage by Medicaid were in fact vaccinated.

While some of the clinical trials indicate that only 1 case of new onset diabetes occurred, they had done a study on a sickeningly small amount of test subjects.  When I think about the millions of children vaccinated in this country and recall all of the many health alerts about the epidemic of children developing type II diabetes, I truly wish I were a statistician.

Is any of this curious, or am I way off base on this?  I would greatly appreciate your educated feedback on this matter.

Thank you for your time and continued support of the autism community.

[name omitted]



"Dear pD, just wanted to say that there are studies out there that clearly link obesity to inadequate methylation. And it is a given that vaccines cause disruption in the methylation of individuals"

Anahalia and pD,
There is another link between obesity and vaccines: MSG. Check, wherein he reports on a book by one John Erb titled 'The Slow Poisoning of America', with reports on studies with mice and rats made obese with MSG when they are first born. "The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates; causing rats (and humans?) to become obese." MSG/glutamate, besides being an excitotoxin in its own right, lowers levels of glutathione, which the body needs to process heavy metals; thimerosal inhibits production of methyl B12 & the regulation of brain glutamate levels - the links go on. Yes, pD, vaccines CAN cause brain disturbance/autism; and with testosterone synergistically toxic with both mercury and glutamate, it happens more frequently in boys. So we're not just talking about obesity with MSG (which comes under more than 25 names - like Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein - thus effectively hidden in our food; and addictive to boot). In short: they could hardly have made vaccines more toxic if they had tried. And then audaciously more than trebled the vax schedule, with no studies to cover their lack of scientific acumen. And then, although trying to get out of trouble quietly by phasing out thimerosal, added an adult dose of mercury to pregnant women (in the now-scheduled flu vax); and topped it up with another dose at birth (in the Hep B shot); and then some more in 6 months (the infant's first flu shot) - what can they have been thinking of. It's an appalling, appalling story, unfolding before our very eyes - but fortunately getting clearer; with investigations prompted not by the oversight authorities & the experts, but by parents, who KNOW something is wrong with this picture, and aren't going to settle for less than the whole truth about the side effects of vaccines. And more power to them, say I. With no thanks to the medical-pharmaceutical-government complex in this tragedy, embodying hubris and worse: corruption.
I suppose it was ever thus, with power. But what a huge shame in this particular instance, involving children; creating much chronic illness and disease, by a good intention gone horribly wrong.


Hi Dan -

I've been censored here in the past, which is funny because I am decidedly, pro biomed. In any case, you have posted my comment. Thank you!

I take your point in regards to the speculative nature of autism relationships with regard to regulatory bodies; but this means that if we are to meaningfully affect the thinking, and thus policy, our crackpot rating needs to be very low. Ignoring the wealth of information in regards to weight and diabetes, and the increase of overweight children in America mandates that we have significant evidence; but we have none. Instead, we have the fact that on the order of one in millions, some vaccines can cause diabetes, and the notion that most of the children in a study from Kentucky were probably vaccinated. Again, I'm not here to defend vaccine safety studies; most of them are likely underpowered and unable to detect long term effects, but this fact does not mean we can hope to affect change by picking an ailment and pointing at vaccines, and saying, 'doesn't this make you think? '

As for Classen, he does have a paper (a few, in fact), but again, to be taken seriously, we cannot be listing things that are exceedingly simple to disprove. By way of example, according to Medical News Today, "Classen's research has become widely accepted." Nothing, could be further from the truth; his work has become nothing of the sort. While he may be correct, what we have instead is proclamations that have no basis in reality.

I appreciate you posting my comments.

- pD

Edda West - VRAN (Canada)

As an avid reader of Age of Autism (it is my daily inspiration!!), I was so interest today to read the type ll diabetes item posted on AOA and wonder if you are aware of Dr. Bart Classen's work. I see as I write that Dan has already posted some info on Dr. Classen's work. Bart Classen has been researching and writing about the role of vaccines in the increase of both type l and type ll diabetes for many years. His research certainly raises many red flags and is worthwhile reading. I first heard him speak at an NVIC conference some years ago. Some interesting graphs on his site: Link to his articles:

I'm a mother and grandmother whose youngest daughter suffered a severe reaction to MMR vaccine in 1977. Our group,(VRAN - Canada) has counseled and comforted parents of vaccine injured children for many years during which time we could see that the expanding vaccine schedule was injuring more and more children, with autism spectrum disorders taking the lead in brain disorders.

During the decades of medical denial and obfuscation, we continued to hold a bright vision of hope that some day there will be a public awakening to the crisis in children's health. It has taken the monumental tragedy of autism to bring vaccine induced injuries to the forefront of public awareness.

Your willingness to give voice to a broader perspective of vaccine injuries is very encouraging. Thank you! I also want to thank the autism community for its persistence, leadership and courage in making the vaccine/autism link. The autism community has done a fantastic job in bringing this issue to the forefront of public consciousness.

With gratitude,
Edda West


Dear Dan (and other posters), May I offer a few ideas from "across the pond"? From communicating with other mothers of autistic children I've got a few inklings you just might find interesting. If you study autistic children, you'll find that many have strong family medical histories of autoimmune disorders (diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, thyroid conditions, etc.), allergies (asthma, eczema, allergic rhinitis, dermatitis, etc) and gastro-intestinal disorders (gastro-oesophageal reflux disorder, acid stomach, stomach and duodenal ulcers, irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's, coeliac disease, ulcerative colitis, etc.). Turning the situation on its head - if you have family problems in these areas then it might be an idea to be very careful about vaccination, either avoiding triple/multiple vaccinations and multiple administration of vaccinations and/or adopting a conservative schedule with vaccinations well spaced out. N.B. I have no formal medical training just fifteen years of reading, trying to work out what happened to make my daughter descend into regressive autism while her twin brother remains unaffected.


"Being overweigth is a gigantic, huge, and unassailable risk factor for developing type II diabetes. Being fat is also at epidemic conditions on our nations children. This is a big problem; one that has a much larger impact on our nations children than the vaccination schedule."

Dear pD, just wanted to say that there are studies out there that clearly link obesity to inadequate methylation. And it is a given that vaccines cause disruption in the methylation of individuals - else Amy Yasko would be out of work!! She had some 7,000 members on her list the last time I looked. I don't need to spell out cause and effect here for you.

No matter which way you look at it, it keeps coming back to the vaccines. We live and breathe this stuff each day and we know what we are talking about. This is not going to go away.

Dan Olmsted

Dear Passionless Drone,

We post things here that are speculative -- in fact, the whole idea that vaccines are linked to autism or anything else, or that there is an increase in autism at all, is speculative, according to the feds, the press etc. We respect your critique -- why on earth would you think we would not post your civil criticism? -- but we aren't going to stop being a forum where people can share ideas, concerns and hypotheses without the kind of heavy hand that suppresses debate and dialogue.
Fwiw, i did a little looking around AFTER posting the vaccines-type II diabetes item and it seems there are others with similar concerns. From Medical News Today, which describes itself as "the largest independent health and medical news website on the Internet":

Vaccine Induced Inflammation Linked To Epidemic Of Type 2 Diabetes And Metabolic Syndrome
05 Apr 2008

Newly published data by Dr. J. Barthelow Classen in The Open Endocrinology Journal shows a 50% reduction of type 2 diabetes occurred in Japanese children following the discontinuation of a single vaccine, a vaccine to prevent tuberculosis. This decline occurred at a time when there is a global epidemic of type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome, which includes obesity, altered blood cholesterol levels, high blood pressure, and increased blood glucose resulting from insulin resistance.

Classen proposes a new explanation for the epidemic of both insulin dependent diabetes (type 1 diabetes), which has previously been shown to be caused by vaccines and non insulin dependent diabetes (type 2 diabetes).

"The current data shows that vaccines are much more dangerous than the public is led to believe and adequate testing has never been performed even in healthy subjects to indicate that there is an overall improvement in health from immunization. The current practice of vaccinating diabetics as well as their close family members is a very risky practice," says Dr. J. Barthelow Classen.

Crazy rubella titers

"Musculoskeletal System
Arthritis; arthralgia; myalgia.
Arthralgia and/or arthritis (usually transient and rarely chronic), and polyneuritis are features of
infection with wild-type rubella and vary in frequency and severity with age and sex, being greatest in
adult females and least in prepubertal children. This type of involvement as well as myalgia and
paresthesia, have also been reported following administration of MERUVAX II.
Chronic arthritis has been associated with wild-type rubella infection and has been related to
persistent virus and/or viral antigen isolated from body tissues."

Going off-topic here a little bit (from the diabetes connection) but under the MMR I found the reason for my myalgia. Turns out I had, on testing, IgG rubella titers over 10 times the upper end of the reference range. This is a very dangerous vaccine. Then we wonder about autism in kids with "congenital" rubella. Did it occur to anyone that the rubella presence in the mom possibly came from her MMR vaccine?

Has anyone ever looked at a mom's reaction to her MMR? I do not for a second believe that an IgG titer is benign. This whole system of testing and measuring things in the human body is fatally flawed and completely unreliable.


Ugh. This is precisely the kind of speculative stuff we do not want associated with viewing autism as a biomedical condition! Being overweigth is a gigantic, huge, and unassailable risk factor for developing type II diabetes. Being fat is also at epidemic conditions on our nations children. This is a big problem; one that has a much larger impact on our nations children than the vaccination schedule.

The author is way off base on this. This is not meant to exhonerate vaccines, or the studies that purport to prove their safety; but the linkage between weight and development of diabetes is strong, well established, and has been well documented well before the hyper acceleration of the vaccine schedule. Vaccines might be doing a lot of things, but they aren't making our kids fat. You are doing a disservice by posting this; any parent of a newly diagnosed child finding this site is likely to come away with a very poor impression of the merits of other arguments posted here.

It seems unlikely this comment will make it past moderation. We shall see.

- pD

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