Dear UN and CDC: Antibiotics - The Double Edged Sword of Man?
Dr. Joshua Gordon Appointed IACC Chair (Autism)

Corruption, Dysfunction and Obstruction at the CDC

Dorit PfizerBy Louis Conte and Wayne Rohde

For years now, those who suggest that vaccines could be behind the increase in autism have been called everything from crackpots to conspiracy theorists. The main stream media continually reminds the public that “there is no link” between vaccines and autism and the “theory has been debunked.”

These messages are often inspired and sometimes directly authored by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the federal agency under the Department of Health and Human Resources (HHR). The mission of the CDC is:

“CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S. Whether diseases start at home or abroad, are chronic or acute, curable or preventable, human error or deliberate attack, CDC fights disease and supports communities and citizens to do the same.

CDC increases the health security of our nation. As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats. To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise.”

Recently, a series of articles have revealed the CDC to be an agency mired in dysfunction and ethical crisis; reckless procedures at labs handling dangerous pathogens, a whistleblower calling out the mishandling the Zika Virus situation, the emergence of an anonymous employee group, SPIDERS, calling attention to the issues of excessive industry influence over science.  Here, Here, Here.

These revelations stand in stark, shocking contrast to the mission of the CDC. They also call into question the integrity of the agency that tells us “vaccines do not cause autism.”

And now this

On 10/19/16, Eco Watch reported that CDC Director Thomas Frieden signed a letter to avoid the order of Tennessee Senior Circuit Court Judge William Acree. The letter is an attempt to block CDC whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, from testifying on his assertions of scientific fraud and destruction of evidence by senior CDC officials in critical research regarding the causative relationship between childhood vaccines and autism.

Judge Acree ordered that William Thompson be deposed on February 5, 2016 in a civil suit alleging medical malpractice brought by the parents of Yates Hazelhurst against the doctor who allegedly administered vaccines incorrectly to the child.

“I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics.”

The reason Judge Acree issued the order? On August 27, 2014, William Thompson, Ph.D., released the following statement through his attorney regarding the 2004 article examining the possibility of a relationship between the MMR Vaccine and autism:

“My name is William Thompson.  I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.

I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed…” (Please read the entire statement here)

CDC Director Frieden responded on September 22, 2016 in a letter stating that Thompson’s testimony “would not substantially promote the objectives of CDC or HHS.”

If you want to read Director Frieden’s letter, please read Dorit Reiss’ weekend post on the Skeptical Raptor Blog. With remarkable speed, Ms. Reiss was given a copy of Frieden’s letter so she could write articles supportive of the CDC Director’s position. We mention Frieden’s quick courting of pharmaceutical industry writers because many who have asked for information from the CDC have often waited years on Freedom of Information Requests. Some have even had to go to court.

If you are Dorit Reiss, (see photo above) your phone calls to the CDC get answered. 

“Basically, I have stopped lying.”

Dr. William Thompson a senior scientist at the CDC who co-authored the 2004 MMR vaccine study revealed in legally taped conversations with Dr. Brian Hooker that he is willing to provide testimony even though his agency doesn’t want him to. Thompson wants to tell what he knows about fraudulent research despite the risk to his career stating, “Basically, I have stopped lying.”

In other words, the Director of the CDC is obstructing an employee from testifying to the truth about scientific fraud that may well have resulted in the un-necessary vaccine injury of thousands of children.

Conflicts of Interests - CDC’s Role in the Production of Science used in Omnibus Autism Proceedings

The study that Thompson says was fraudulent, was relied on heavily by Special Masters in dismissing thousands of vaccine-induced autism claims filed in the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings (OAP). As Hazlehurst’s attorneys, Robert F. Kennedy and W. Bryan Smith, point out, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, who administers the CDC, could have been on the hook for a trillion dollars in compensation to children who developed autism due to vaccine injury. Due to the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and the 2011 Supreme Court decision on Brusewitz, the NVICP is the only justice venue for those who believe they were injured by a vaccine. The Secretary of Health and Human Services is the Respondent, the person/agency being sued for vaccine injury claims.

Few in the main stream media have noted the fact that the CDC was responsible for the production of the science which would ultimately be used to exonerate the Secretary of Health and Human Services in the OAP.

The conflict of interest is glaringly obvious.

Frieden claims the authority to block Thompson testimony due to a 1951 case United States ex rel. Touhy v. Ragen, claiming that the Hazelhurst case is a civil suit to which the United States is not a party. Therefore, a government employee should not be required to participate in it.

Kennedy and Smith expected Frieden’s response and are filing an appeal. William Thompson may still have an opportunity to tell his story on the record in a court of law.

 

Historic Implications?

Thompson has given statements to Congressman William Posey informing that CDC administrators conspired to destroy government owned scientific data and threw it in a garbage can. If true, these actions may amount to obstruction of justice in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings.

The CDC employees who engaged in this behavior could be charged criminally. It is illegal to destroy government data and records. It is obstruction of justice to destroy information that could be used in federal court proceedings.

Would Thompson’s testimony result in an action to revive the claims dismissed by the Special Masters in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings? If Thompson is telling the truth, is it possible that the Secretary of Health and Human Services could be directed to compensate the families?

Over ninety published scientific papers claiming to show that vaccines “do not cause autism” have relied on the 2004 study. These papers would have to be retracted because the science produced by the CDC was fraudulent.

The government claims that “vaccines don’t cause autism” would crumble.

Given what Thompson has claimed and the other significant revelations about ethical and management issues at the CDC, what science produced by the agency could be trusted?

A pattern of conduct – bad conduct – at the CDC is coming into focus.

Director Frieden is preventing William Thompson from saying what he knows about vaccines and autism on the record. Thompson’s statements raise the possibility that thousands of families who sought justice in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings had their cases dismissed because some of Frieden’s employees threw science in the garbage. Even worse, Thompson raises the awful possibility that the government agency responsible for the health of the American public could have prevented the vaccine injury of thousands of children and simply chose not to.

There is a compelling public health concern – the autism epidemic - that requires that William Thompson testify under oath.

There is a compelling ethical reason – the safety of the nation’s children – that requires that Thompson testify under oath.

It's time for Director Frieden to read his agency’s mission statement.

Louis Conte and Wayne Rohde.

The Vaccine Court Wayne Rohde Vaccine Injuries BookThe Autism War_revised cover

Louis Conte, author of The Autism War and co-author of Vaccine Injuries

Wayne Rohde, author of The Vaccine Court – Dark Truth of America’s Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

All books published by Skyhorse Publishing – New York City

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Linda1

Han,
I don't think Dr. Weldon was dissappointed in the parents. He criticized the agencies and it seems worked hard. He is in Vaxxed.

More re Dr. Weldon here (see embedded letter):
http://www.safeminds.org/blog/2014/08/25/cdc-whistleblower/

Benedetta

And Chafftey seems in no hurry either.
Every day a delay - is every day a child is vaccinated because of made up science from the CDC.

Benedetta

CT teacher
Thank you. .

Jeannette Bishop

Thank you, Mr. Conte and Mr. Rhode for another helpful analysis.

For those wanting to see Dr. Weldon back in Congress, I just want to note that I see a major blessing in that Bill Posey was the one who over his seat and inherited much of his staff with their research/education on this issue already in place and then showed the courage he does in continuing this effort. And add, if Dr. Weldon still lives in the same district, that we might want to beg one of them to move and then run for Congress (or to run for the Senate). :)

Han Litten

Posted by: Linda1 | October 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM

Linda I suspect that Dr Weldon went out on a limb for us parents and was disapointed by the complete lack of conviction and determination of the very parents who were directly affected by these evil policies that he despaired and gave up ,

Sir , Dr Weldon , please come again and try again , the interlopers and double dealers and here of course but the 100% percenters are here too and we can easily see the double agents and are happy to sweep them aside in our cause (they are pathetically transparent)

Han Litten

Earn Money | October 27, 2016 at 05:47 AM

millions of children !!!!!!!
do not try to down play the magnitude of this hg-olocaust

CT teacher

Benedetta-I was only offering another possible explanation.. No disrespect was intended.

Benedetta

CT Teacher;

Not only was it divine inspiration, sent by God; I can prove it!
Vaccine injuries from Dr. Wakefield, link to the gut -to -, Dr. Fassano - in his cholera vaccine caused celiacs link, to all of Tereasa Conrick's articles on the micrbiome , I all of these are circling a lot around the gut - and gut micro biome and where was Simon when he wrote it?

In the bathroom of course.

LOL.

Case proved.

CT teacher

Benedetta- I suppose the song is open to interpretation. Your info is the same as Wikipedia's. However, I don't trust that site much. As an example, read what they say about Andrew Wakefield. You will cringe. I saw a PBS rerun of a Simon and Gaefinkel concert not too long ago. Paul Simon was interviewed afterward and he clearly stated that the song was a response to the aftermath of the Kennedy assassination.' I was surprised because I had not previously seen a connection. After I analyzed the words, I could see it. The JFK assassination was a seminal event in my young life since it was the 1st time that I looked at my govt with suspicion and doubt. Things would never be the same for me. So, in my 73 years ,I have learned by experience to be skeptical of many things.
I prefer to believe the explanation that relates to JFk but the words could easily be applied to many situations in our society,

Benedetta

Denise Anderstrom Douglass:

That is exactly right - So it this the nature of mankind? I guess it is. I would like to think that if I had one little teeny tiny power I would not do that or this.

CT Teacher - The song did come out a few months after Kennedy's death, that is true. Simon said it was not about Kennedy's death though cause he had been working on it for a long while. He wrote it while sitting in his bathroom with his guitar in the dark. Both Simon and Garfunkel said it was about communication breakdown between people. But the symbolism he used for communication problems I just don't see how a 21 year old could even begin to grasp.

Soooo, I choose to think that God; sent divine inspiration to Simon and it is meant for just our vaccine injured children and parents and just us alone.

Linda1

Dr. Weldon, 2004 and following on the same page, an article by Dan:

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/congressman-dave-weldon.html

Would be good to get Dr. Weldon back into Congress.

Denise Anderstrom Douglass

At some point, if you belong to a certain group of diverse people who perceive that they have been treated with gross unfairness by a segment of government -- you eventually, after following the issue in minute detail for years upon years, become aware of the reality of huge corruption in that segment of government. I believe this is happening not just all over this country, but is spreading all over the world.

Our individual children and grandchildren will never get justice. It's that "trillion dollar" thing. I believe there are also other people in other groups who are realizing the complete, vast, mind boggling corruption in all areas of our government. As we are facing nuclear war which is now closer than in my childhood -- and I am 67, one of the ones who had to look up from under our desks during the atom bomb drills, and yes, even first graders are old enough to realize that a desk is not going to save you from "the bomb" -- the cool thing is, other groups of genuinely aggrieved people are also realizing the utter corruption that reaches everywhere. Isn't it unbelievable that Mr. Burns and Mr. Posey are the only two congressmen we have been able to count on?

So, the CDC is utterly corrupt. People are waking up to the vastness of the problems. I personally believe in the rule of law, and I was raised by a darn good Berkshire County , Massachusetts lawyer. I also believe the rule of law, which we take for granted, is in dire danger these days.

CT teacher

Benedetta--- The Sounds of Silence was a response to the Kennedy assassination, which was one of the times that the Powers That Control Us showed their hand. Anyone who doubted the official explanation and spoke out publicly was silenced by murder or public shaming. The CIA had a plan to silence dissidents by calling them conspiracy theorists and using that epithet to make them look foolish. Obviously it worked.
The same PTB use the term "antivaxxer " to discredit those who question vaccines. "Conspiracy theorist" is used as well.
The lyrics of that song have as much meaning today as they did in 1963. You are so right about that.

Birgit Calhoun

Rachel! It makes no difference when the injury occurred. The judgments that have come down regarding vaccines will be connected to a still not yet corrected conclusion of that study. The notorious Danish study fits in that category, too. Is the U.S. trying to extradite Poulsen. There is absolutely no effort. Apparently the CDC does not want to acknowledge that somebody committed scientific fraud. That would and should cause a huge scandal.

There is a pattern by the CDC to make sure that the status quo is maintained. They need to be force to own up.

John Stone

We should also not forget Congressman Dave Weldon - who spoke so eloquently against the IOM review on a number of occasions.

Birgit Calhoun

Burton and Posey are the laudable exceptions. Were they really listened to? They were heard through the white noise, but were they listened to for real? People hung their hopes on their words, as did I when I hear them speak, but the overwhelming majority sat back and thought and talked as if they knew really how great vaccines are without actually ever going into details. The hearing where Burton spoke about vaccines was over ten years ago. Do people still remember? Posey spoke more recently. Burton and Posey actually spent their time reading about the details and the incredible amount of indicting material. Did the media investigate as they should? Did the Congress really take note? Burton and Posey spoke, but it only had a lasting effect on those of us to whom it mattered.

AnneJ

..."Dr. William Thompson's deposition testimony would not substantially promote the objectives of CDC or HHS [Health and Human Services]."

Well, I think that pretty much says it all. The current CDC is completely, and now OPENLY, admitting their "objectives" have absolutely nothing at all to do with the health and well-being of our citizens.
What a completely despicable organization. I no longer believe anything that comes from the CDC. I hope other countries start openly exposing the CDC for the corrupt scum that they have become, and start publicly shaming these people. I feel sorry for any country who counts on the CDC's information when determining their own health care practices. So sad that a once prestigious organization has turned into such a complete joke.
How do these people sleep at night, knowing what they have done (and continue to do) to innocent lives? It's sickening.

Earn Money

In other words, the Director of the CDC is obstructing an employee from testifying to the truth about scientific fraud that may well have resulted in the un-necessary vaccine injury of thousands of children.

John Stone

There's no question, the De Stefano (Thompson) paper was part of the IOM review: it was part of the government's case against Hazlehurst. They can't turn round now and say we should not have presented this evidence, or it would be very interesting if they did..

benedetta

And as for Rachel;

It is like everything else going on in this country. Twist, and bend logic which is typical now a days .

Ahhh which gets us back to the lyrics:

People talking with out speaking
People listening without hearing

I thought they were just so propaganda izeed by those in powerful that control of education, and information. Some are controlled by the purse strings, and some just no longer are able to think logically.

benedetta

Birgit; There have been a few senators and Congressmen. Only two so far. Burton whose grandson at a late age and skipped some vaccines and they loaded him up for catch up. And then Posey.

that is about it.

Who can help; it would help if we could start with the top - the president.

John Stone

Rachel

Whatever - the Hazlehurst hearing was in 2007.

Rachel

John: That's not the argument I'm making - I'm suggesting that that's the argument the CDC are making; that in this particular case, because the alleged injury happened before the study, the study is not relevant. If it had been a case regarding a vaccine injury after 2004, there would have been more of a case for compelling Thompson to testify.

annie

I just saw The Accountant:

Brevity is the soul of wit, while beauty is the deception of all;

while human suffering is being dismissed, i hate them each

Benedetta

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon God they made. (Oh what could that possible mean.)
And the sign flashed out it's warning,
In the words that it was forming.
And the sign said, the words of the prophets

Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls.---- and CDC's website, Rite Aid, doctor's walls, Wal Mart, Sams club to get your vaccines. Wild is it not.

Birgit Calhoun

The drift is still that these powers think nothing of just brushing off any kind of attempt to make the CDC honest. That comes from the fact that it has become totally acceptable to lie not just about Andrew Wakefield's Lancet study or other studies that simply avoid giving credence to anything that assails the quality of vaccines or even the possibility that maybe vaccines could do harm. And as long as they have the authority of the Supreme Court to say "too bad that the breaks", they are safe. We vaccine supporters are trying as hard as we can to make things safe and unfortunately there are a few casualties. To me that is not acceptable, but to the Wyeth lawyers or anybody else in a significant position at the CDC, it is certainly a safe position no matter how shaky a leg they have to stand on.

Bob Moffit

@ Shelly Tzorfas .. you ask:

"The question is- How are we going to Make Amends?"

The question is not what WE can do to "make amends" .. the question is what THEY will do to "make amends".

Unfortunately .. THEY WILL NEVER MAKE AMENDS.

Who are THEY?

THEY are the morally and ethically bankrupt .. SLIMEY .. PROFIT driven .. corporate and political inhabitants .. who have DELAYED, DENIED AND HOPE WE DIE .. before the TRUTH PREVAILS.

Reader

One has to wonder if the rats are finally starting to leave the sinking ship- the CDC, the Clinton campaign...

John Stone

Birgit

I doubt whether it has anything directly to do with the Brueswitz decision which was about manufacturer's liability. The issue here is whether the CDC lied over the science, and frankly Frieden's remark gives the game away: he is saying that allowing Thompson to testify would not be in the CDC's interest, which is not a reason for denying the appellant (and the public) the right to hear Thompson's testimony.

Rachel

That really does sound like the most slippery argument - be it on your own head if you want to make it.

kapoore

Thank you for updating us on this ongoing tale of corruption, that is now added to the overwhelming number of other tales of corruption of 2016. One example that comes to mind is the Project Veritas report on the antics of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic party, who, of course, love everything bureaucratic. I once routinely voted for Democrats until SB277, then my world was shattered. Now I'm seeing a similar scenario of mass corruption being played out on the national level. HELP!! Yet the scandal of all scandals remains wrapped up at the CDC, that like a massive fortress cannot be penetrated. We have our knights in shining armor. We have truth on our side. I can't imagine the force it would take to topple that colossal facade of steel and glass, guards and restrictions from entering. According to my granddaughter's pediatrician (who is one of the few superstar good guys) nearly 99% of the doctors support vaccination according to the CDC schedule. I go over and over that fact in my mind, and the same for those who say they are pro-woman/pro-mothers, and yet are blind to the unbearable grief a child with a vaccine injury places on the mother's shoulders.

msbiskind

CDCs budget differential [$11.5B vs $7B] may have to do with what they 'ask for' and 'what they are appropriated by Congress'.

2016 ' what CDC says they asked for'= https://www.cdc.gov/budget/documents/fy2016/fy-2016-overview-and-detail-table.pdf [AROUND $7B]

2016- 'what CDC says they got' = https://www.cdc.gov/budget/documents/fy2016/fy-2016-overview-and-detail-table.pdf [AROUND $7B]

2016 - ' what HHS says that CDC asked for' = http://www.hhs.gov/about/budget/budget-in-brief/cdc/index.html [AROUND $11.5B]

Note that the CDC did get $1.5-1.8B for Zika research, so they definitely got more than $7B.

from their 2017 budget $7B request overview PDF ... " CDC promotes evidenced -based prevention initiatives as the most effective, way to improve health and lower health care cost"...

I guess this 'evidence-based' prevention approach fits into many things, including preventing Dr Thompson's testimony....


david m burd

Even the Medical Establishment now acknowledges and tallies close to 50% of American babies and children are being permanently/chronically disabled, or killed as in SUID/SIDS; that's 2 million every year, year after year (in my personal experience, lifelong damages and deaths to adults via vaccines, exemplified by Gulf War Syndrome, flu shots, HPV vaccines, etc., bring another massive number of casualties).

Yet the HERD OF VACCINE ELEPHANTS in the CDC foyer, that weren't there 25 years ago, are left alone, while the criminals heading up CDC spend their efforts HIDING and OBFUSCATING the plethora of rock-solid evidence incriminating vaccine(s) as revealed by William Thompson.

If the efforts of Conte and Rohde in this court case are corruptly stymied by CDC criminals I will not lose heart, only stiffen my resolve.

Shelley Tzorfas

"Over ninety scientific published papers claiming to show that vaccines do not cause Autism…"have been circulated with ominous results.. The question is How did 90 resources promote the party line "Vaccines do not cause Autism?" How did universities get funding to show "Vaccines do not cause Autism?" How did the NYTimes, LATimes and other old papers continue to sing that song "Vaccines do not cause Autism?" How did so many doctors and pediatrician's offices hire nurses to answer the frantic phone calls from parents after their baby returned home from getting 8 or 9 vaccines (in what the parents saw as 4 shots) and was found to have a 106 fever, a high pitched scream, seizures and convulsions or found Dead after the so called "Well Baby Checkup."

While fraudulent science was cut copied and pasted, the mainstream news outlets sang in the choir. How can the news which receives much of their revenue from pharmaceutical products release this story gracefully? Perhaps by apologizing to the public? ..We are so sorry that we relied on some large pharmaceutical corporations for giving us scientific proof that vaccines do not cause autism without checking on some facts. We could have gone to foreign countries who do not vaccinate babies on the day they are born for a disease they might get when they have sex or share IV druggie needles and ask them "Why?" Why don't they vaccinate 12 hour old babies? We could go to countries that give few vaccines or none at all before the baby has an independent immune system and no longer that of their mothers. We could have performed some real investigative journalism and looked at why the US has among the highest death rate of newborns in civilized countries or among the highest death rate of children under age 5 (For those of you who were going to say that it is because we bring young preemies into the world-the 5 yr. old death rate can negate that premise).

No matter how Dr. William Thompson's truth is uncovered-that there was a study done showing a tremendous uptake in Autism in the black community from just the MMR shot in children that received it before age 3.. no matter how it reaches the news.. that the CDC forced that study into the TRASH.. we are still left with a generation of young people who are unable, in many cases , to talk, bathe, dress themselves on the low end, or live independently on the higher end. Many of the children are in physical or emotional pain. Their parents are distraught and feeling equally ripped off by the medical, pharmaceutical political complex…Siblings feel ripped off, extended families feel ripped off, neighbors, schools, communities, and cities feel ripped off. The question is- How are we going to Make Amends?

Linda1

"CDC saves lives and protects people from health threats."

I guess they don't consider babies to be people.

Birgit Calhoun

So, how is it possible that the CDC can say: "Dr. William Thompson's deposition testimony would not substantially promote the objectives of CDC or HHS." Isn't it because at a time when Justice Scalia was still alive there was a Supreme Court ruling against the Bruesewitz' that said vaccines are unsafe, but it's ok because by definition vaccines are not expected to live up to other drugs' standards? This ruling will give many agencies the license to say vaccines are now forever protected because of an activist Supreme Court. When the Supreme Court gives free reign to governmental agencies that are largely also in industry's pockets, it needs to be pointed out that this behavior is sanctioned by the judiciary as well. The vaccine court is backing the CDC and also the NIH. The vaccine court in my opinion is a joke when it rejects thousands of petitions for assistance. The special masters there are often not trained in anything they are ruling on. I am really tired of hearing it's Hillary or Obama or the Democrats. Think about the scientifically incompetent Supreme Court and Vaccine Court who back up the CDC in their casual and callous treatment of families affected by autism when the CDC is getting away with telling the judge that William Thompson is not needed for testimony. That situation needs to change. Please, think of who can change that!

Robin Miles-McLean

My blog post on the Zika CDC Whistleblower. All tests being used to "confirm" Zika are seriously flawed and yet the CDC just squeezed $1.9 Billion out of Congress for a disease 4 out of 5 people don't even know they have. There are currently 23 projects going to develop a vaccine for a virus that just emerged recently and 750 CDC employees have already been reassigned from tick borne diseases to Zika duty.....

http://www.myinnerangrywonk.com/2016_10_01_archive.html

Jenny Allan

[Verse 4]
"Fools", said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words, like silent raindrops fell
And echoed
In the wells of silence"
http://genius.com/Simon-and-garfunkel-the-sound-of-silence-lyrics
From 'The sound of Silence' by Paul Simon; first released October 1, 1964

When Oh When will they listen?

Twyla

What's the point of whistleblower protections if the whistleblower is not allowed to testify about anything that "would not substantially promote the objectives of" the organization s/he is up against??

Isn't the whole point of whistleblower protections to enable people to speak out without fear of reprisal? Are they only allowed to speak out within company/agency limitations?

Rachel

I think the problem here is that the specific court case for which the testimony is being sought relates to a vaccine injury which occurred before the 2004 study happened, and hence that study is not deemed relevant.

Linda1

Well that's interesting. When I last checked online, the CDC's budget was stated as $11.7 billion a year. I know that was the number. Who could forget that? Now Wikipedia says $7 billion. Wonder what happened there?

Anyway, Ohio state rep Nino Vitale told Polly Tommey in a Vaxxed interview (below) that the CDC needs to be closed down. Couldn't agree more. Imagine what the US could do with the $11.7 or $7 billion (or whatever the real number is) saved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqVwvEpfwM

Gayle

I agree with Bob Moffit-DRAIN THAT DAMN SWAMP IN WASHINGTON! Hillary will do nothing as she is part of the corrupt establishment system. Great analogy Benedetta as I also remember Sounds of Silence and the great lyrics apply to the CDC and NIH today. I am also in my sixties and a parent of an adult son with autism who I am sick with worry over every single day. I have several friends who are feeling the same fear of the future for our children and who desperately want the answer to how to reverse the vaccine damage done to our children. We must find it NOW or risk losing millions of our children to autism!

Laura Hayes

It is not thousands of children who have been harmed and killed by the CDC's criminal actions, it is many millions. The evilness at the CDC knows no bounds and apparently has no limits. Cash for crimes, including crimes against America's children, their modus operandi.

Not one word that emanates from the CDC, the FDA, or HHS can be trusted...not one. Americans would do well to wise up to that fact.

Gail

More harm is done to the public health and safety in avoiding Thompson's testimony than harm done to the CDC. The only ones harmed at the CDC are the fraudulent management that should be in jail for destroying evidence.

Gail

This case cited does not give Frieden the right to refuse the subpoena and prevent Thompson from testifying.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/340/462

John Stone

Good morning Lou and Wayne,

Remarkably, Frieden has cited grounds:

""Dr. William Thompson's deposition testimony would not substantially promote the objectives of CDC or HHS [Health and Human Services]."

And this, though I am neither a lawyer nor a US citizen seems an extraordinary hostage to fortune. Is the fact that Dr Thompson testimony would not promote the "objectives" of the CDC and HHS be normal grounds for denying public testimony. That does not strike me as placing whatever those objectives are as within the law at all. It is like saying "we are above the law" and "must on no account be subject to cross examination". To which the only questions are how such circumstances can ever be allowed to occur?

John

Tom Clancy, Jr.,

President Eisenhower warned us about the "MIC" - the Military-Industrial Complex. But there's a couple OTHER "MIC's"! The MONETARY, and MEDICAL Industrial Complexes! Call them "3MIC"?....
(c)2016, Tom Clancy, Jr., *NON-fiction

Bob Moffit

"It's time for Director Frieden to read his agency’s mission statement."

We are long past calling for Dr. Frieden to "read" the CDC's mission statement ... the time has come to replace Director Frieden with someone who not only "reads" the damn statement .. but .. understands what the statement REQUIRES the DIRECTOR of the CDC to accomplish.

Lou and Wayne write:

"The CDC employees who engaged in this behavior could be charged criminally. It is illegal to destroy government data and records. It is obstruction of justice to destroy information that could be used in federal court proceedings."

Indeed .. there are SO MANY examples ... of high level officials throughout our government .. who have OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE at every opportunity .. over decades .. to protect themselves as well as the morally and ethically bankrupt bureaucracies they serve .. most recently and egregiously .. those at the highest levels of the Justice Department .. who .. regardless of the overwhelming evidence of GUILT .. absolutely REFUSE to prosecute favored "career politicians" and "career federal bureaucrats" .. for OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE.

Say what you will .. but .. WHOMEVER becomes our next President .. their highest PRIORITY should be to ... DRAIN THAT DAMN SWAMP IN WASHINGTON D.C.


Benedetta

Well I am 60 this year.
And slow me finally understands the lyrics of the Simon and Gar's song; "Sound of Silence"

Some one on my face book shared a new version of that song by "Disturbed" I think I love it even more.

There was a long sound of silence on the whole subject of vaccine injuries.

Sounds of Silence were booming in 1990 while I held my vaccine injured four year old, as the ped told me it was not the vaccines that was causing his speech delay or seizures, or any problem what so ever. Nope there was nothing wrong with my boy and if here was it was not the vaccines
Behind the ped on that day were postures of lots of new and up coming vaccines that the unborn would some day have to take, and we as vaccine injured as he was - were lucky to be born earlier.

"Sounds of Silence"

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