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Breaking News: Congressman Posey On House Floor CDC Authors of 2004 MMR Paper Destroyed Documents

PoseyBreaking News (at 1hr 02mins 25seconds on the link): 

http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live=

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THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE: THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, MR. POSEY, FOR FIVE MINUTES.

MR. POSEY: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY ON MATTERS OF RESEARCH AND SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY....

AofA's Adriana Gamondes took the time to prepare this unofficial transcript.

July 29th, 2015 House Morning Hour

Congressman Bill Posey (R-FL) at 1:02:29   http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live=

Thank you Mr. Speaker. I arrive today on matters of research and scientific integrity. 

To begin with, I am absolutely, resolutely pro-vaccine. Advancements in immunization have saved countless lives and have greatly benefited public health.  That being said, it’s troubling to me that in a recent senate hearing on childhood vaccination, it was never mentioned that our government has paid out over three billion dollars through a vaccine injury compensation program for children who have been injured by vaccinations. Regardless of the subject matter, parents making decisions about their children’s health deserve to have the best information available to them. They should be able to count on federal agencies to tell them the truth.

For these reasons, I bring the following matter to the floor. In August, 2014,  Dr. William Thompson, a senior scientist at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention worked with a whistleblower attorney to provide my office with documents related to a 2004 CDC study that examined the possibility of a relationship between the mumps, measles and rubella vaccines and autism.  In a statement released in August, 2014, Dr. Thompson stated “I regret that my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the Journal of Pediatrics.” End quote.

Mr. Speaker, I respectfully request the following excerpts from the statement written by Dr. Thompson be entered into record. Now quoting Dr. Thompson:

“My primary job duties while working in the Immunization Safety Branch from 2000 to ’06 were lead or co-lead three major vaccine safety studies—the MADDSP MMR Autism Cases Control study  was being carried out in response to the Wakefield Lancet study that suggested an association between the MMR vaccine and an autism-like health outcome. There were several major concerns among scientists and consumer advocates outside the CDC in the fall of 2000 regarding the execution of the Verstraeten study.

One of the important goals that was determined up front in the spring of ’01 before any of these studies started, was to have all three protocols vetted outside the CDC prior to the start of the analyses so that consumer advocates could not claim that we were presenting analyses that presented our own goals and biases. We hypothesized that if we found statistically significant effects at either 18 or 36 month thresholds, we would conclude that vaccinating children early with MMR could lead to autism-like characteristics or features.  We all met and finalized the study protocol and analysis plan. The goal was to not deviate from the analysis plan to avoid the debacle that occurred with the Verstraeten thimerosal study published in Pediatrics in ’03.  At the September 5th meeting, we discussed in detail how to code race for both the sample and the birth certificate sample.

At the bottom of Table 7 it also shows that for the non-birth certificate sample, the adjusted race effect statistical significance was huge. All the authors and I met and decided sometime between August and September ’02 not to report any race effects for the paper.  Sometime soon after the meeting, we decided to exclude reporting any race effects, the co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the study.  The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can.  However, because I assumed it was illegal and would violate both FOIA and DOJ requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office and I retained all associated computer files. I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the Pediatrics paper. “

End of quote of the doctor.

Mr. Speaker, I believe it’s our duty to ensure that the documents that Dr. Thompson provided are not ignored. Therefore I will provide them to members of congress and the house committees upon request. Considering the nature of the whistleblower’s documents, as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing and a thorough investigation is warranted. So I ask Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues on the appropriations committees to please, please take such action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I yield back.

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Lou

"ADVANCEMENTS in medical immunizations have saved countless lives."

It would be nice if the august members of Congress could at least get the basics of "vaccination" correct. The numerous toxins in a "vaccination" do not confer "immunity". Immunity can only be conferred by contracting a natural pathogen naturally and defeating it naturally. Your body will then confer immunity for you that often lasts a lifetime.

Take the "measles vaccine", as an example, please do not inject this poison. A man made measles virus is mixed with a few dozen other toxins and injected into a defenseless baby. The baby's immune system as immature as it is must combat the trillions of foreign bodies injected into its bloodstream; this can cause toxic shock although most SIDS is due to the white blood cell clogging of blood capillaries, anoxia and tissue death in the breath control region of the infant's brain. If SIDS does not result from this "vaccination" numerous other ischemic damaged tissues in the brain and body can confer numerous damaged functionalities. Doctor Blaylock tells us the infants battle with the "vaccination" as evidenced by brain inflammation, can continue for two years. Quite an amount of damage from ONE simple injected "vaccination" NO?

"ALL vaccines are and have been causing ischemic (impaired blood flow) damages - to all - creating a plethora of chronic illnesses, disease, and in some instances...death. The injury from vaccination is additive, each vaccination further injures.” Doctor Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

Since measles is a virus it and all other viruses including the dreaded and "vaccination" demanding "seasonal flu viruses" can be defeated easily, SIMPLY, SAFELY and NON-Medically by simple vitamin D. Get your and your babies' vitamin D levels up to at least 65 ng/ml and you will defeat ALL VIRUSES within seconds or minutes of their entry or exposure to your body. NO "vaccination" is ever required for a virus or truth be told any other simple pathogen.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_Dr_Moulden.htm

John Stone

mlh

Quite right - an error has slipped in somewhere along the line. Not only are you correct that PEDIATRICS was where the article was published it is what is cited in Thompson's statement on the website of Morgan Verkamp "...in the journal Pediatrics" with "Pediatrics" in italics.

http://www.morganverkamp.com/august-27-2014-press-release-statement-of-william-w-thompson-ph-d-regarding-the-2004-article-examining-the-possibility-of-a-relationship-between-mmr-vaccine-and-autism/

mlh

The article by Dr. Thompson referenced by Congressman Posey was published in Pediatrics, not The Journal of Pediatrics.

Carol

I appreciate what Mr. Posey has done, but shouldn't Dr. Thompson and his attorney now contact Sen. Chuck Grassley? His website explicitly invites whistleblowers with information about wrongdoing in federal agencies to contact him.

aspiesmom

I love Congressman Posey's exquisite delivery of this bad news for the Vaccine Industry. A little sugar helps the truth go down.
Pharma just got a taste of their own medicine ;)

Kara1

Email Jason Chaffetz’s office, because he is the Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Urge him to have a hearing! Email fred.ferguson@mail.house.gov to voice your concerns!!!

Matilda R

Vaccines can cause a glutamate storm in some infant's brains. It's those cases that lead to gut and brain problems. Worse, because nobody is taking any data on this, it allows the vaccine militants to keep pushing their agenda, claiming there's no proof. The proof is here people. It's called epidemic of autism ever since these vaccines were pushed into the bodies of vulnerable children who can't speak for themselves and tell us they were injured. What a perfect group to target. Well done you profit obsessed collateral damage thinkers...so long as the money keeps flowing and you pretend you weren't knowing children will keep on showing signs of autism....Amazing how so many children diagnosed with autism aren't from super wealthy families....ever wonder why?

david m burd

@ Researcher:

Quit trying to nuance what Posey said, and trying to figure out what he really meant.

It's not hard, Posey's waffling on vaccines DOES INDEED MEAN HE ENDORSES all kinds of vaccines injected into infants.

Posey, as far I can analyze, is just another Pharma Fool, if not their bought-off Tool.

Researcher

While I am 99% in agreement with Laura Hayes, I do think it's important to point out that Rep Posey's wording was just a SLIGHT bit different from other politicians who have balked at vaccine mandates (most recently in CA).

His words: "To begin with, I am absolutely, resolutely pro-vaccine. Advancements in medical immunization have saved countless lives and greatly benefitted public health."

Hey, being pro-vaccine does not NECESSARILY mean that you are in favor of anything other than a tetanus shot (if they made tetanus-only shots). Or that you are in favor of anything more than the IDEA of vaccines. Thinking that a safe, effective vaccine (which does not at this point exist) is a great thing, and you're all in favor of it, can mean--to some--that you are "pro-vaccine."

I'll assume Posey meant that.

"ADVANCEMENTS in medical immunizations have saved countless lives." Well, yeah, we're not using the live polio vaccines in the US that caused so many cases of polio, and we're not using pus from cowpox lesions any more either. I'd say those advancements have saved countless lives, too (but who's counting?).

I think Posey is being clever enough to play the political game in order to be heard, and changing the wording just enough so that we can at least hope that he really is on our side.

Jeannette Bishop

"In an untainted news environment, the allegations would make headlines in most legitimate publications and would trigger federal inquiries. However, the interests of the powerful pharmaceutical industry reach deeply into Congress and the news media through lobbyists, propaganda and advertising dollars."

https://sharylattkisson.com/cdc-scientist-we-scheduled-meeting-to-destroy-vaccine-autism-study-documents/

Jeannette Bishop

Carol and Anita, I agree these papers should be released to the public.

I'm not sure I want to see another Congressional hearing, even if Posey conducts it (though I'm sure I would watch it, if he did):

https://youtu.be/fQ5KQt5DE6o?t=2m25s

...most members of Congress (and the current CA government and the medical profession, and ...) suffer from the above or worse on this subject.

Carol

What does Dr. Thompson say was the rationale behind concealing the MMR-autism link in black male children? Why didn't they just recommend that receipt of MMR be moved to sometime after the age of 3 years?

Wouldn't that have been logical and ethical?

Nora

So cannot we as citizens demand action? This was a breaking of the law and the proof is that Dr. Thompson has the docs and the CDC does not.

Shades of gray

Here's why I don't think it's pandering to express support for the concept of vaccination while simultaneously shooting holes in fraudulent vaccine safety studies, protesting any mandates and protesting denial of vaccine injury-- to keep the bar high.

As a homeschooler, I don't cheer about the fact that public schools are being made to fail because of corporate greed. I don't think it's "not my problem" that education is falling apart just because I think Common Core is a scourge and won't let my kids anywhere near that system. I know that some will always want free public education and as a member of society, I feel it's a duty to see to it that all members of society have a choice. By the same token, some will always want some form of preventive medicine and when industry says "Our way or the highway," even if I'm opting for "highway" myself because of how rotten the tech currently is, I refuse to agree that industry's current "way" is the only possible manifestation preventive medicine could take. Considering how little is spent on R&D, on safety studies and considering the crackdowns on independent science, it looks to me as if, like the oil and cancer industries, the pharmaceutical conglomerate is doing everything it can to stymie genuine innovation.

Right now the "form" that vaccines take is toxic, tainted, ineffective, cheap and increasingly given by force. The form was created by the current oligopoly but allowing industry to convince the public that this is as good as it gets is basically ensuring that the status quo continues and this will be all that's available.

That's why I refuse to take the strawman "antivaccine" position originally created in an industry boardroom to brand all safety watchdogs as extremists. It would be to give up on demanding safer products along with democratic policies.

Those opting for the black or white/either or scenario are free to do so but the fact remains that most people aren't going to take the fundamentalist position on this. Half the world is still waiting for a preventive measure for malaria and safety activists should be in the front row to watchdog over any development along those lines. It's not "pandering" to industry to respect the choices of fellow citizens or to hope they have safer options, just like it's not bowing to Arne Duncan or Bill Gates to join the effort to spare public schools from the corporate feeding frenzy.

Bayareamom

"...I started by saying "Vaccines seem to work for some, but did you know what is in them? " When I told her exactly what was in them she GOT it and droped support for SB277..."

MUCH better way to start off a speech/conversation about vaccines...YES.

Double-whammy autism & type-1 diabetes thanks a lot CDC

Time to start working on making them change that darn 3-year-window statute to apply for vaccine injury compensation, wouldn't you agree?

Grace Green

Jenny, I think that decision by the FDA on dental amalgam fillings is out of date. I have a document allegedly by the FDA which lists horrendous symptoms, of which I suffer from most. My GP has referred me to have my fillings removed on that basis.

 CDC CDC Admit that vaccines cause ASD

I understand the anger at the "I'm pro-vaccine but" but here's the issue:
So very many people just are not here yet. Rhetorically, you need to have a path from what they believe to what they can accept. I had a friend who thought she had very strong pro-vaccine issues.

I started by saying "Vaccines seem to work for some, but did you know what is in them? " When I told her exactly what was in them she GOT it and droped support for SB277. She knew that thimerasol topically is an allergen for some, and so the lights went on that injecting it could hurt as well. She could see that I wasn't crazy, and I was explaining WHY they are unsafe. Yes, totalliy, they are ALSO unsafe even without the mercury etc for a subset of infants. But each time you add a new ingredient, it is that much more likely to be unsafe to a larger number of infants. To help people understand this, something that is totally logical, you have to start in a place of somewhat agreement. To get them to listen. But what we are arguing here is --are they ever good? IS there any benefit from them, or are they a total fraud. This is what is not as clear. We all know that they are inherently unsafe for a subset. But we do not all agree that they don't ever have a place. And I don't think we have to have consensus on this to stop this insane mass poisoning.

That said, I can see your point if we do this analogy:

"Slavery is great for most people, all my children are slaves, and it is of course the ONLY way to keep them from starving to death, but we shouldn't force people to be slaves and there is SOME evidence that MAYBE slavery is bad--even deadly-- for some kids and maybe we should find alternative ways for those kids to not be slaves "

So for some of us, it's that stark. For others of us, we are still hanging on to the hope that the harm done to our child actually did at least do SOME good somewhere. To find out that there was absolutely NO benefit to ANYHONE, that it was a net sum of useless organized criminal or foolish injections, . . . that is so very hard to accept and believe. It says so much about how far behind we are medically as a society, how pathetic we are as a democracy, that it's just too much to take in. We are all on a path, and we need to be glad of anyone who at least acknowledges there is harm and it should stop NOW. We need to start where we start and welcome any who get it that vaccines can cause harm, and that that is not okay.

Those of us who simply are against all vaccines in principal or for scientific reasons are part of our group and those of us who think that vaccines are useful but are unsafe for too many are also part of our group. We need all of our voices. And we all need to read Dissolving Illustions. And I love the guy who wants to put up billboards listing vaccine reactions. THATs a great way to stop the tide of damage and to wake people up.

Bayareamom

"If you want to ride the mainstream media train you have to recite the pledge, "Vaccines have saved countless lives," before the conductor will punch your ticket..."


Yeah, well...

...then quit riding it. MOST people remember the FIRST thing you say and the last. The whole truth and nothing but the truth is what is desperately needed, here; not pandering to the other side...AT ALL.

I'm with Laura Hayes on this one.

Anita Donnelly: CDC CDC Stop forcing shots that cause ASD

Can't we demannd that ALL of these "Vaccine" (Pentagon Papers) be put online somewhere?
Can't we demand of our own congresspeople to get them for us?

Christina Waldman

NDavis, you asked about autism prevalence studies. This CDC page was last updated 6/22/15. http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html This one updated on 7/8/2015: http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/research.html. I skimmed rather quickly, but didn't see anything identifying race or ethnicity of mother as a risk factor on those pages.

I was remembering this 6/23/2014 press release (Thompson's press statement through his lawyer was 8/27/2014) about a study finding higher rates of autism among the black, Hispanic, and some Asian children of immigrant mothers born in the U.S., compared to children born to white U.S. mothers. http://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2014/jun/mothers-place-birth-risk-factor-autism-us-born-children A brief abstract is at: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/06/17/peds.2013-3928.abstract

Quote from the press release: "Specifically, they found that when compared with children born to white American mothers, children of foreign-born women who are black, Central or South American, Filipino and Vietnamese had a higher risk of autism. The same held true for children of U.S.-born African American and Hispanic women. The risks were adjusted. . . .

"The study analyzed birth records for children born in Los Angeles County who had been diagnosed with autism between the ages of three and five from 1998 to 2009. . . . In total, 7,540 children with autism were identified from more than 1.6 million births.

"Once adjusted, when compared to U.S.-born white mothers, rates were 76 percent higher in children of foreign-born black mothers, 43 percent higher in women born in Vietnam, 25 percent higher in women born in the Philippines, 26 percent higher in women born in Central or South America, and 13 to 14 percent higher in Hispanic and black women born in the U.S."

(Cia, you gave a quote and statistics from a Minnesota Star Tribute article on the 2013 U. of Minnesota study. Would you please post the link to your source. I have looked at a few articles trying to find it: http://www.startribune.com/dec-2013-autism-hits-somali-kids-harder-says-um-research-report/236033201/ or this one http://www.startribune.com/jan-8-2015-university-of-minnesota-joins-national-autism-study/287825061/ Thanks!)

The New York Times 2013 story, "Study links autism and Somalis in Minneapolis" was by Donald G. McNeil: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/health/study-links-autism-and-somalis-in-minneapolis.html?_r=1

The CDC has ten geographical sites nationwide it is monitoring for autism and developmental disabilities, according to this: http://centralvalley.ca.networkofcare.org/dd/news-article-detail.aspx?id=57703 1/8/2015 from the Star Tribune.

TELL A FRIEND IT'S VACCINE INJURY

If you want to ride the mainstream media train you have to recite the pledge, "Vaccines have saved countless lives," before the conductor will punch your ticket. What matters is what you say next. Thanks, Bill. Great job.

Denise Anderstrom Douglass

Just watched it. Thanks for the link. At last! Now even this small amount is in the Congressional Record. Thank you Congressman Bill Posey!

Anita Donnelly: CDC CDC Stop forcing shots that cause ASD

Everyone call your own congress person and tell them to watch this video/read the information. They need to know that we know.

And I have a question for them, (and or the Commonwealth Club):

Which side of history do you want to be on??

And do you want to be the congressperson or the media talking head who causes an infant in your district to slip into permanent damage this week because of your cowardice on this issue ? Do you want to see that parent 10 years from now, when the truth finally is out, saying "I knew this child reacted badly to previous vaccines. But you didn't speak out. You didn't find out. You chose to stay in the dark. I trusted you and got one more set of shots that week back in 2015 because you didn't report or alert on this issue. You said it wasn't clear. You scoffed at my calls. You lied. You did not want to know. You did not have the courage to stand up to your peers. And now my child is damaged forever. "

We can stop vaccine injury NOW. But first we have to admit that it happens. The tipping poing is NOW.

@Ralph

Interesting video! The doctor just called the Congress spineless, gutless and worthless...so yeah we'll see what happens.

Hera, and for Ben

God bless Representative Posey.
I am all for freedom of choice. His personal position on vaccines only goes to show he has no vested interest in disclosing the wrong doing at the CDC which in my mind makes him even more credible than if he had said he was against all vaccines.
A person standing up for what is right, and who protects the rights of others, regardless of their own belief/medical choices is imo very powerful. Someone to admire.

By the way, Ben apparently had questions about Dr Thompson really being a whistle blower on another thread.
After hearing about the garbage can for controversial data, I am interested in hearing from Ben about whether his opinion has changed?

Greg

As much as I am also annoyed by the oft repeated 'vaccines are the greatest, but...', I think Posey's testimony is a huge development for our side. For the first time, we have a clear-cut allegation of research fraud and criminal wrongdoing coming from within. Initially the other side tried to spin Thompson's admission as just a matter of a disagreement between researchers, but they can no longer do so. Public health officials now have two choices: They can ignore these allegations and continue to push a despotic vaccination program and risk further wrath, or they can start to heed the warning of their citizens that these 'safe and effective' products are not so safe and effective. And, in the meantime, I cannot help but feel satisfied that Trump has a new heaping load of heavy ammo.

Ralph Fucetola JD

Dr. Rima of Natural Solutions Foundation and Brother Tony of the Nation of Islam discuss the CDC cover-up here:

We Must Unite to Stop Vaxx Mandates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995Bag3UsSw

CR

My guess is that even the African American Congressmen/women will not bother to address it at all even though the issue most definitely pertains to them. Sad.

Carol

Why can't these documents be put online like the Tobacco Documents?

Angus Files

Should we or shouldn't we? be pro, or anti,shots how should we word it?
And having two completely unvaccinated children oral, or shot, tells my take..

I am, anti vaccine, as the schedule stands, and all its toxic concoction's.

As I understand it ,in theory vaccination could work..and I cant see anything saying why it shouldn't..on that alone I can say I am, pro-vaccine on the days when I am talking to the sheeple,but in the same breath I do explain my status.

All my reading on the subject hasn't given me one instance where it does, has in fact worked.

As a matter of interest if anyone has got an instance, and I am not talking about the countless studies done by the goverments,makers and sellers of the vaccines, can you post.

Still I can be seen to be reasonable, and say, I am pro-vaccine on the basis that it might work..

But ,I am, a anti vax nut, just ask the crazy pharma troll sites..(they know who they are).

Posey might have been under a tadge of duress me, thinks, you say X,Y and z, or all your evidence Mr Posy, will seem un reasonable and struck off.It could explain the delay and a deal was struck on wording you,accept this or nothing.After all ,at the very end of the DEMOCRATIC,puppet strings who pays for the hearing?,Goverment,who controls Government? Pharma,.I always say ,"well they cant say they never knew"..God wont accept that because they did and do know and brother Lucifer is waiting for them, it can be no other way.

Thanks Mr Posey and Mr Thompson.

MMR RIP

Susan

I think the reason Bill Posey had to preface his statements with "I like vaccines blah blah ..." is because the Vaccine lobbyists are very powerful and have a huge influence on politicians so maybe he had to tread lightly or his comments would not have been palatable to some of the others in the room.
It might also be dangerous to go on Cspan and say you're against vaccines since the people running the Vaccine industry seem to be absolute criminals.
I'm just glad somebody is speaking out about these crimes finally and people will know how corrupt the CDC is and since he mentioned that three billion dollars have been paid out for vaccine injuries they'll know vaccines are dangerous...NOT "safe and effective".

Jenny

Would it also be a good idea to make a list of other congresspeople in the room who witnessed Posey's statement so that people can contact them, in addition to Posey's office, and let them know you support Posey and request that they
also support Posey, request copies of the documents, and call for an investigation? That way they are not let off the hook.

beverly gardner

Thank you congressman Posey for bringing to the forefront the crimes against humanity perpetrated by our government agency the CDC. Centers for Disease Control....they sure are controlling where the diseases go.

Jenny

Thank-you, Mr. Posey!

Meanwhile, over at the FDA, a final decision reached:
http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20090728/fda-mercury-fillings-not-harmful

But they reclassified it?

Which is to say we are injecting the same materials otherwise deemed a class II (deemed a moderate harm) "device" into human bodies.

False Skeptics Make Me Laugh

Once again, I don't think this will amount to anything...there is not enough moral outrage at the underhanded data manipulation that the CDC and the Pharmaceutical industry has been guilty of before, but are somehow perfectly incapable of performing when it pertains to Vaccines. We need to force their hand.

Leak everything to the public. Let everyone read it. Force their hand!

david m burd

Hello, I am Representative John Doe. "First let me say I strongly endorse 46+ vaccine doses injected into our just-born babies and through the first 18 months of their lives."

"Unfortunately some government scientists have been fiddling with. and covering up data showing some babies of some ethnic groups are more likely to die or be permanently disabled than other ethnic groups."

"I agree with author Robert Kennedy, Jr., who also enthusiastically endorses the amazing benefits of the American Immunization Schedule that limits serious damage or death of our kids to 50%. Just think how many more kids would be damaged or killed except for heroes leading our wonderful agencies (CDC, NIH, FDA, etc.), standing shoulder to shoulder championing these life-saving vaccines."

"Nevertheless, I will call for hearings to reveal the fiddling of data by a few rogue public employees. Thank you for your support."

Tim

To Barry you should thank him for taking his time to at least mention this. We need a lot of people also tell about the payouts of over three billion to vaccine injured kids. My child was not allowed into vaccine court because I found out about it three months after the 3 year deadline for filing a claim. I am pro vaccine to a point . I would still give him the Td if needed. The rest no. His one statement does not disqualify his statement it just makes it harder for Big Pharma to call him a misguided person. He just stated the CDC has broken the law as they have done before Simpsonwood around 1991.He's not perfect in his statement but better than anyone of late in government.

Cristina Covali

I support Bill Posey and thank him for his testimony today regarding the CDC's intentional destruction of documents. I am grateful William Thompson retained hard copies documenting the truth and as a parent of a vaccine injured child, I am requesting a full investigation into this issue

DClearner

It's totally unacceptable to cheat on a health-related report, good job Mr Posey.

Benedetta

This is great news - at last something.

Now holding my breath, crossing my fingers, giving it heavy prayer tonight.

Hmmmmm; Do you all think it is bad of me to want more -- more -- like some at the CDC to wear orange suits?

Jeannette Bishop

RT coverage of MMR, including interviews with Allison Edwards and Dr. Wakefield:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLpoL-YHED4

Maybe RT will broadcast Congressman Posey's speech?

White Rose

Barry & BayareaMom , you are both correct .
We are being managed , we are being sidelined .
The killing will go on , the neurological maiming will continue . Its business as usual .
1 year to get these five minutes is laughable .
But its hardly surprising is it . This holocaust will change the wealth of nations , and the world balance of power . "Bluesky" will make president soon .
And it looks like World War III has started to me in the middle East , Syria Iraq Yemen Afghan Ukraine .
I challenge Sen Posey to take the flu vaccine if he is so sure of them . Take it annually sir !

Yes , the media are the conduits . The media are the murderers , the media makes it all possible .
The Lying media is the vehicle that brainwashes and silences and manages everyones opinion . For me I have to call the BBC as the worst in the WORLD .

Brainwashing
Bribery
Corruption

And AUTISM PANDEMIC and not a word about it .
Hg-enocide and not a word about it .
And this situation has been going on for years .

Flouridation of water (first used in Nazi concentration camps) - dumb down the populace ,make them tame.
Mercury Amalgams (thanks Mr Kissinger 70's onwards"
Then the mass vaccine programs (covert military weapons)
GMO - weaponising the food chain
Chem Trails - nano particles of aluminium

All the same policy - nssm200 , alive and well .
And accelerating . The Bildebergs want a private safari park

Linda1

So Posey, possessing evidence of government corruption and fraud, does not have the power as a Congressman to call a hearing or to demand that his colleagues (and the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security and any others who are supposed to be protecting the Peoples' interests) address the issue? All he's got is to go crawling to them, begging and pleading?

Isn't that special?

Greyone

I hope Rep Posey continues to add more of Thompsons statements into the congressional record, if the house oversight committee refuses to subpoena him.
If Mohammed isn't allowed to come to the mountain, let the mountain speak for him.

go Rand

Thank you Representative Posey !!!

I would suppose the "big garbage can" was then taken outside and burned by the CDC researchers, with the ashes placed in hazmat bags.... all in the name of Science.

Photos of the fire were then sent to Merck.

cia parker

Ndavis,
This is from the Minneapolis Star Tribune about the autism prevalence study the U. of Minnesota did on Somali (and other) children:
"The net result was that one in 32 Somali children in the study met the diagnostic criteria for autism, compared with one in 36 white children. The rates were notably lower at one in 62 for non-Somali black children in Minneapolis, and one in 80 for Hispanic children. The rates for the Somali and white children were higher than national averages as well."

It means that 1.25% of Hispanic children, 1.6 non-Somali black children, and 2.8% of white children in Minnesota have ASD. 3.1% of Somali children, possibly because they got a lot of vaccines during the immigration processing. Probably the other differences are because Hispanic and black children are less likely to be up on all their vaccines than white children, their lives thereby having been saved. All this irony just kills me!

Keri

Standing applause for Mr. Posey.

rtp

It is very heartening to see so many people on this site saying we should not be looking to appease these people with mealy mouthed "I am pro-vaccine but..." statements. Obviously credit to Posey for bringing the issue up at all but finally after at least 3 decades we have finally come to the realisation that appeasement is a pointless strategy.

There is no middle ground here because for the other side to compromise just a little would be suicidal for them.

Vaccines do not work and they are not safe. The problem has been that despite having the absolute truth on our side many of us have been ashamed to speak it and many others just don't know how to effectively get the point across.

Your stories are generally harrowing - but in the face of the government, media and medical industry countering it with their own fear stories (of the effects of the diseases) just endlessly regaling people with personal stories of vaccine injury is a drop in the ocean for most people brainwashed from birth about the wonders of these concoctions.

That is why whenever you broach the subject of vaccine safety the approach should *always* be to ask them if they would take a weight adjusted dose of the entire infant immunization schedule. That prevents them from finding some way to rationalise vaccine injury stories as "one in a million". It also forces them to confront their own hypocrisy.

And when you are dealing with the efficacy angle - which is more important to get across than the safety angle - what you need to say is this:

The polio vaccine did not lead to a reduction in paralysis/crippling amongst children and the diphtheria/pertussis vaccine did not lead to a reduction in hospitalisations due to respiratory infections and the measles/mumps/rubella vaccine did not lead to a reduction in encephalitis, deafness, sterility or congenital defects and the Hep B vaccine did not lead to a reduction in liver cancer/disease and the Hib/Prevnar vaccines did not lead to a reduction in meningitis/pneumonia/sepsis (obviously there are references to all this data but this is the best thing to provide people for brevity).

kapoore

I guess saying you are "pro-vaccine" is necessary because vaccination is the medical sacred cow. I'm at least glad that he is pushing the issue. Well, more than that he is throwing out the lifeline that might (fingers crossed) safe us from the clutches of Big Pharm. It has got to start happening! Where on earth is the Black Caucus to push this issue? We need William Thompson to testify; we need the papers distributed around the Congress. Then, one day we'll have someone come before the House and say what is probably closer to the truth, which is that vaccines are a dated medical intervention that destroys more lives than they save. Way down the road farther than the eye can see into the future even the vaccine promoters and vaccine activists will begin to turn and parents who have vaccinated the heck out of their babies will be as furious as those of us who are for all practical purposes "anti-vaxers" today.

4Bobby

Thank you Mr. Posey

Cody Ward

Thank you Congressman Posey. The CDC needs to be exposed and held accountable. Pharmaceutical Companies need to held accountable as well, however, they are quite protected from any law suits! I do appreciate your honesty and trying to right a wrong.
I do want my voice along with many other's that to force any human being to be vaccinated is unethical and barbaric. Not one vaccine is 100 percent safe. I do respect the fact that you are Pro-vac. It should be your choice just as I should have a choice. Thank you again.

Jeannette Bishop

Congress generally is pretty predictable, but for those who dismiss the whole vaccine disaster because if it were true, "as bad as all that," some people, surely, would do something about it, now have another somebody (two somebodies if they haven't heard of William Thompson) doing something on the record and the timing, at least here in California (and I can't really say, but maybe in some other states like Florida) might be such that will resonate with greater numbers.

John Berchielli (former volunteer for Richard Pan who suffered vaccine injury) is on the Tim Donnelly show right now (today's show restarts @ 6pm Pacific @ timdonnellyshow.com and spends a lot of time on Posey, SB 277, etc).

@Sherri

I think you pretty much nailed it. They are getting so predictable. Business as usual to them.

Bayareamom

"Therefore, I will provide them (documents provided by Thompson)to members of Congress and the House committees upon request."

So, unless these documents are "requested" by members of Congress and the House committees it ends here? After the payoff's to ensure SB277's passage I'm not feeling hopeful that our representatives are going to give these documents the time of day.

Please tell me what I'm missing here? Really, I want to know."


I agree. Why haven't these documents been provided to every single Senator and Congressional member by today's date? Posey's just NOW asking for a hearing? In August/2014, Thompson's statement, via his attorneys in Ohio, was released to the public, so it's been almost a full year. Why the delay?

I do appreciate Posey's efforts...I do. However, if memory serves, Posey came out awhile ago (or perhaps it was one of his reps) and asked the public to call their Congressional reps. re a hearing for Thompson. Why did his office/he feel the need to do this? Did Posey realize there may NOT be a hearing, for whatever the reason, hence his urging of the American public to inquire/ask for one?

I have a lot of questions, obviously, and I'm not going to be too quick to jump on the bandwagon, feeling all is well because of this last speech by Posey.

Time will tell as to whether or not this hearing will be held. And should this hearing occur, it had better be a PUBLIC hearing for ALL to witness. Even then, I'm not certain anything will really come out of it.

Sherri

"Therefore, I will provide them (documents provided by Thompson)to members of Congress and the House committees upon request."

So, unless these documents are "requested" by members of Congress and the House committees it ends here? After the payoff's to ensure SB277's passage I'm not feeling hopeful that our representatives are going to give these documents the time of day.

Please tell me what I'm missing here? Really, I want to know.

Susan

On Congressman Bill Posey's youtube channel there's a video of JUST him speaking. It's better for sharing with people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxr-cv-JuI8

Barry

I just called Rep. Posey's office to thank him for what he said today. Everyone on this board should call his # was easy to find.

**********

And what exactly should I thank him for Tim? For saying he was absolutely, and resolutely in favour of the vaccines that he's telling us are disabling defenceless children??

Laura Hayes

One more thought regarding Congressman Posey's opening statements, especially in light of the fact that it was no doubt countless parents of vaccine-injured and vaccine-killed children who brought him to the level of knowledge he now has about vaccines and the corruption behind them:

"Saying you are "pro-vaccine" to the parent of a vaccine-injured or vaccine-killed child (or to a person who has suffered vaccine injury) is like saying you are "pro-drunk driving" to the parent of a child who has been injured or killed by a drunk driver (or to a person who has suffered injury at the hands of a drunk driver)."

It is hurtful and offensive, not to mention counterproductive, to have those who are trying to help stop this vaccine holocaust begin with statements such as the ones Congressman Posey chose today. I hope that he, and others who begin with similar statements, will give these thoughts serious consideration.

Tim

I just called Rep. Posey's office to thank him for what he said today. Everyone on this board should call his # was easy to find.

Tim

Thank you REP Posey

Angus Files

Many thanks to Mr Posey and the braveness of Bill Thomson for coming forward.

MMR RIP

aspiesmom

Bravo, Congressman Posey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9NIZOvfKpc

AnneJ

Thank you Rep Posey!!!
It's so nice to see someone in our government who actually demonstrates integrity and courage (very rare these days, it seems)
We need to share this information far and wide.
Those at the CDC who are responsible need to be held accountable.

david m burd

Going back several decades Michael Belkin testified to Congress, on his infant child being killed by the HepB vaccine.

For decades Barbara Loe Fisher (Founder of NVIC, information source on the risks of vaccines) has presented to Congress about vaccines' deadly effects.

Many other distinguished medical drs. have testified in Congressional Hearings on the catastrophic effects of injected vaccines into babies, infants, and young children.

Rep. Posey and his other Congressional Allies will indeed try to reveal the utter corruption of CDC, etc., hiding the carnage CAUSED by vaccines.

But, they will fail to change anything as made amply evident by the National Institute of Health Autism Committee (IAAC) chaired the one of most awful criminals in American history, Tom Insel.

Only in grassroots' fashion, never giving in, and not being shy talking to our neighbors, friends, family, about the horrors of vaccine damage, will anything change.

Our out-of-control Federal Agencies will NEVER change, except through massive citizen revolution.

There will never be enough "Poseys" to have any effect, as heroic he may be.

Linda1

If Posey was a vaccine god atheist or agnostic, would his report of Thompson's claims be any less compelling? Does he have to be a true believer before he can broach the subject?

Barry

As much as it is a relief to see some kind of action on this front, it has all the makings of a spectacular whitewash. "I am absolutely, resolutely pro-vaccine"...but we have a little glitch in the program...professionals sometimes disagree...we need to keep a tighter reign on these folks...etc. In the end, nothing of significance changing.

***********
I agree. I sincerely hope that THIS isn't what Kennedy was talking about , when he predicted that this story would blow the lid off of the CDC and Pharma.

How can anyone start a speech with " I am absolutely, resolutely pro-vaccine…", and then follow it less than 10 seconds later with "…Our government has paid out 3 BILLION dollars, through a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, for children who have been injured by vaccination…"

How can anyone be absolutely, and resolutely in favour of medications that you know are routinely injuring children. And which you know will continue to do so, because the agreed upon solution for these heinous acts of child abuse… is the establishment of a program which throws hush money at the tiniest fraction of the families of these vaccine injured children???

ndavis

What's the latest information about the prevalence of ASD among African-Americans versus Caucasian Americans and the rest of the US population?

Stephanie Doucette

Thank you Mr. Posey... Thank you sooo very much!!

Linda1

Would love to give Rep. Posey a huge hug. Extremely grateful for his bravery, intelligence and tenacity.

However, just once I would love to see someone stand up in front of Congress and instead of starting with a proclamation of devotion to the false vaccine god lest they be banished for blasphemy, I would love to instead see someone speak the absolute truth that the vaccine emperor has no clothes.

Just once.

Laura Hayes

Sigh...I had a feeling that Posey would include the awful "I'm (insert rah-rah adverb here) pro-vaccine" preface to his statement, with the 100% unproven "vaccines have saved millions of lives" chaser comment, and yep, he did, right off the bat:

"TO BEGIN WITH, I AM ABSOLUTELY, RESOLUTEY PRO-VACCINE. Advancements in medical immunization have saved countless lives and greatly benefitted public health."

Question for Congressman Posey and anyone else who continues to make the claim that "vaccines have saved (insert crazy and untrue number here) lives." Based on what evidence? I contend that there is no such evidence.

To have such evidence, both short and long-term comparison studies of the vaccinated vs. the unvaccinated would have needed to be done...for each and every individual vaccine, combination vaccine, and combinations of vaccines that are administered...while controlling for many factors to make it a valid comparison study. Such studies have never been done. Therefore, no one can claim that even one vaccine has ever saved even one life. Yet, the opposite can be claimed in spades...that vaccines have taken lives.

And the claim that "vaccines have greatly benefitted public health" is another 100% unproven statement, and one need only look at the health, or lack thereof, of Americans to deduce that that that lie is yet another part of the vaccine propaganda campaign.

54% of American children have a chronic health condition (did you hear that...54%...in other words, our public health is NOT good!). At least 1 in 50 American children has Autism (did you hear that...1 in 50 American children is severely disabled by just one condition...a condition that USED to afflict 1 in 10,000...again, our public health is NOT good!). The rate of American children on IEPs continues to rise, reflective of developmental delays and chronic illness, and thus, more proof that our public health is NOT good. And, our infant mortality rate is abominable for a developed nation that spends THE MOST per person on "healthcare", which I now refer to as "deathfare". This terrible infant mortality rate is in no way suggestive that vaccines are benefitting public health here in the U.S., quite the opposite.

By making untrue statements that include "vaccines have saved/save lives" and "vaccines greatly benefit public health", Congressman Posey and others contribute to perpetuating the vaccine propaganda, and it is that very propaganda that must be stopped...revealed...and corrected...immediately.

Words matter. While I am glad that Congressman Posey is trying to implore Congress to investigate and act on the documents provided by whistleblower Dr. William Thompson, he needs to realize that his word choices need to be made carefully, and correctly, so as to compel action...not to confuse, mislead, and justify inaction.

Giselle

About time one of our representatives finally has the balls to blow the cover on this. If they didn't mess with the people choosing not to vaccinate (even though heavily criticized and ridiculed); they could have very well continued their disgusting monopoly on human life. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't leave well enough alone and got greedy. Now those silent parents (who are educated enough to know the poison those deadly little cocktails represent), are coming out in droves with claws and teeth out, ready to furiously unleash all their collective knowledge to destroy and topple down this shameful, deceitful and immoral house of cards. #HEARUS and hear us well! YOU DON'T MESS AROUND WITH OUR KIDS! PERIOD!!!

Gina Rengstorf

Thank you, Congressman Posey! A true hero among cowards! Your name will go down in history as being our champion!

NWO Reporter

As much as it is a relief to see some kind of action on this front, it has all the makings of a spectacular whitewash. "I am absolutely, resolutely pro-vaccine"...but we have a little glitch in the program...professionals sometimes disagree...we need to keep a tighter reign on these folks...etc. In the end, nothing of significance changing. No government hearing is going to solve the problem of misplaced public trust in a corrupt medical cartel, and widespread vaccine disinformation.

hhhhh

WOW!!!!!! Thank you so much!

Bob Moffitt

Am I missing something here .. latest 24 hours of mainstream media .. ABC, CBS, NBC "World News Reports" .. to name just three of numerous similar faux "news" sources .. were fixated on the allegation that New England Patriot Tom Brady "tampered with evidence by destroying his personal cell phone records"

yet

over last year that very same faux media has willfully ignored reportedly well-documented .. credible allegations .. by research scientist Dr. William Thompson that high level CDC officials conspired to DESTROY DOCUMENTS INDICATING THE SIGNIFICANT RISK TO BLACK CHILDREN IF ADMINISTERED THE MMR VACCINE TOO EARLY.

Consider .. how is it possible that our "free press" is much more concerned glorifying the NFL Commissioner's effort to "protect the integrity of the NFL" .. while at the very same time .. could careless about Dr. Thompson's courageous effort to "protect the integrity of the CDC"?

Is this a great country or what?

Tami

per Rep Posey's office: send EMAILS of support directly to Bill's assistant Patricia Febro.

Patricia.Febro@mail.house.gov. Emails become permanent records, unlike faxes or postal mail, which might become 'lost'. Emails do NOT have to be long, just say "I support Bill Posey and thank him for his testimony today regarding the CDC's intentional destruction of documents. I am grateful William Thompson retained hard copies documenting the truth and as a parent of a vaccine injured child, I am requesting full investigation into this issue." or something like this. Please ask your mom, your gramma, your uncle, and all of your friends to email TODAY. Take 2 minutes of your day to do something more meaningful that reading facebook memes!

for whom the bell tolls

A vid of this needs to go far and wide. Then it's up to Congress to look bad if they choose to do nothing. This is the exact type of corruption that is getting someone like Trump
so many nods.

Jeannette Bishop

Thank you, Congressman Posey!

In case anyone wants a (non-professional) transcript:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live=

1:02:29, MR. POSEY:

THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TODAY ON MATTERS OF RESEARCH AND SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY. TO BEGIN WITH, I AM ABSOLUTELY, RESOLUTEY PRO-VACCINE. Advancements in medical immunization have saved countless lives and greatly benefitted public health.

That being said, it's troubling to me that in a recent Senate hearing on childhood vaccinations, it was never mentioned that our government has paid out over three billion dollars through a vaccine injury compensation program for children who have been injured by vaccinations. Regardless of the subject matter, parents making decisions about their children's health deserve to have the best information available to them. They should be able to count on federal agencies to tell them the truth. For these reasons I bring the following matter to the House floor:

In August 2014, Dr. William Thompson, a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention worked with a whistleblower attorney to provide my office with documents related to a 2004 CDC study that examined the possibility of a relationship between mumps, measles, rubella vaccines and autism. In a statement released in August 2014, Dr. Thompson stated, "I regret that my co-authors and I omitted," OMITTED, "statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the Journal of Pediatrics." [end quote]

Mr. Speaker, I respectfully request the following excerpts from the statement written by Dr. Thompson be entered into the record. Now quoting Dr. Thompson:

"My primary job duties while working in the immunization safety branch from 2000-06 were to lead or co-lead three major vaccine safety studies. The MADDSP MMR Autism Cases controlled study was being carried out in response to the Wakefield Lancet study that suggested an association between the MMR vaccine and an autism-like health outcome. There were several major concerns among scientists and consumers advocates outside the CDC in the fall of 2000 regarding the execution of the Verstraeten study. One of the important goals that was determined up front in the spring of '01 before any of these studies started was to have all three protocols vetted outside the CDC prior to start of the analyses so that consumer advocates could not claim that we were presenting analyses that suited our own goals and biases. We hypothesized that if we found statistically significant effects at either 18 or 36 month thresholds, we would conclude that vaccinating children early with MMR vaccine could lead to autism-like characteristics or features.

"We all met and finalized the study protocol and analysis plan. The goal was to not deviate from the analysis plan to avoid the debacle that occurred with the Verstraeten thimerosal study published in Pediatrics in '03. At the September 5th meeting we discussed in detail how to code race for both the sample and the birth certificate sample. At the bottom of Table 7, it also shows that for the non-birth-certificate sample, the adjusted race effect statistical significance was huge. All the authors and I met and decided sometime between August and September '02 not to report any race effects for the paper. Some time soon after the meeting we decided to exclude reporting any race effects, the co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the study. The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard-copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can. However, because I assumed it was illegal and would violate both FOIA and DOJ requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office, and I retained all associated computer files.

"I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the Pediatrics paper." [end of quote of the doctor]

Mr. Speaker, I believe it's our duty to insure that the documents Dr. Thompson provided are not ignored. Therefore, I will provide them to members of Congress and the House committees upon request. Considering the nature of the whistleblower's documents, as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing and a thorough investigation is warranted. So I ask, Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues on the appropriations committees to please, please take such action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I yield back.

TELL A FRIEND IT'S VACCINE INJURY

What an image. Even more graphic than I had imagined. "The co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the study. The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard-copy documents that we had thought we should discard. And put them in a huge garbage can."

Greyone

Wow wow and wow.
Thank you Rep Posey.

Tami

wow- send your thank you cards to Bill Posey NOW.

The Honorable Bill Posey
United States House of Representatives
120 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0908

Twitter:@congbillposey

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Double-whammy autism & type-1 diabetes thanks a lot CDC

1:02:25 is the spot where Congressman Posey starts speaking!

John Stone

He begins at 1.02

Patricia

Well done Mr Posey. You did it well.

for whom the bell tolls

Unless those people who initially handled it are complete morons there will be back ups.

Kevin

Pro-vaccine but raises issues of scientific integrity?! Wow. Give that man an award.

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