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The Message From Scotland: Autism Up In Schools 13.6 Times In 16 Years And Accelerating

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By John Stone

Autism in Scottish schools rose from 820 cases in 1998 to 9,946 in 2013. We have to consider what it means in a civilised nation when you have to look after an autism rate of 1 in 30…Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s First Minister, needs to stop being re-assured by the UK Department of Health in Westminster that they know what they are doing and everything is completely control. They don’t and it isn’t.

While the UK Treasury and Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne contemplate how to trim billions from government spending they might like to bear in mind the projected cost to the British economy of autism, calculated a London School of Economics academic at an £34 billion ($54b) in 2013 and modestly downsized to £32b ($51b): this was up about 20 times from the greater than £1b figure calculated in 2001. But if as we shall see the basis of Prof Knapp’s calculations maybe erroneous we are hurtling to a situation where the costs will be even worse.  The problem is dramatically highlighted by the numbers of Autism Spectrum Disorder cases recorded in Scottish schools from 1998 to 2013 (it is worth concentrating on Scotland because the figures go back further and are more comprehensive than for England): in Scotland the figures rose from 820 cases in 1998 to 9,946 in 2013: allowing for the change in overall numbers this was 1 in 925 in 1998 and 1 in 68 in 2013. However, this in itself disguises the fact that the 2013 figure combines a lower rate in older students with a much higher rate in younger students: the present rate for children entering the system in the last five years will much higher than 1 in 68, and is perhaps conservatively in the region of 1 in 30 (data supplied by the Scottish Executive).

Year

Total number of pupils

Number of pupils with an ASD

1998

758,414

820

1999

755,081

959

2000

751,243

1,245

2001

745,063

1,515

2002

738,597

2,204

2003

732,122

2,663

2004

723,554

3,090

2005

713,240

3,484

2006

702,737

2,443

2007

692,215

3,919

2008

681,573

4,900

2009

676,740

5,254

2010

673,133

6,506

2011

670,511

7,801

2012

671,218

8,650

2013

673,530

9,946

 The Buescher study in JAMA  , co-authored by Prof Knapp last year, projected 604,824 ASD cases in the total UK population - of which 491,243 were said to be adults -  while the Department of Works and Pensions only knew of approximately 130,000 cases  (which includes children): they conjecture that a further 300,000 cases of learning difficulty may include ASD cases but presumably this is the ever elusive hidden hoard. The National Statistics survey which projected a 1% figure for adults in England - having used inappropriate means - had in reality failed to detect a single authentic case, and was further involved in fraudulent re-labelling . However, if the Buescher study greatly over-estimated the present number of adult cases in the UK it seems to have grossly under-calculated its per capita costs.  The study gives the lifetime cost of a person with autism and intellectual disability (ID) as £1.5m ($2.2). Not only is this absurdly low (even in 2001 Prof Knapp projected an average lifetime cost  -with or without ID - at £2.4m ($3.8)) a calculation based on its costs in Table 2 gives a figure for autism and ID of £4,864,911 (about $7.8m), or more than three times greater.

We have to consider what it means in a civilised nation when you have to look after an autism rate of 1 in 30. For one thing Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s First Minister, needs to stop being re-assured by the UK Department  of Health in Westminster that they know what they are doing and everything is completely control. They don’t and it isn’t.

(Added May 26)

The culture of the Department of Health has been defective going back far into the mists of time. Although it did not touch specifically on vaccines the House of Commons Select Health Committee report in 2005 'The Influence of the Pharmaceutical Industry' condemned the culture (p.3):

"The Department of Health has for too long optimistically assumed that the interests of health and of the industry are as one. This may reflect the fact that the Department
sponsors the industry as well as looking after health. The result is that the industry has been left to its own devices for too long. It may be relevant that this is the first major select committee inquiry into the pharmaceutical industry for almost one hundred years – the
last was undertaken by the Select Committee on Patent Medicines which reported in August 1914."

And there is much more: unfortunately it remains the case that if nothing had been done since 1914 nothing was done after 2005 either. The DH and its licensing agency the MHRA (paid for entirely by the industry) fail to act as anything but enablers for the industry and it is the public who reap the consequences. This is perhaps a much graver issue than whether you happen to live in England or Scotland.



John Stone is UK Editor for Age of Autism.

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John Stone

Sophie

I pretty much believe the figures, however, the overall figure for the 2013 cohort was 1 in 68 but obviously it was a much lower rate among older children and a much higher rate among younger. Perhaps not as high as 1 in 6. But as you say if children are being damaged then that damage will probably extend beyond those that acquire a diagnosis of autism - so yes it doesn't end there. You have to look at other chronic illnesses and other developmental disabilities and you have to look at the autism rate as being a single measure of general damage. As has been said our children are the canaries.

Sophie Scholl

John , the figures you show here suggest a rate of 1 in 67 .

I dont believe those Government figures , the true figure is anywhere up to 1 in 6 . And likely every child that recieves the "Toxicity program" is damaged in some way .

John Stone

I have just discovered that there was a fault in the link to the DWP statistics which has now been corrected.

Just to clarify also, I took the decision not to post certain comments on this thread. While not being entirely without responsibility for it myself I thought we were drifting too far from the topic.

Grace Green

Hello, Angus Files, from another SNP supporter! (but one disenfranchised of my vote). Thank you for your efforts in communicating with the Scottish government. My abilities with words don't match yours, but I have tried two SNP MPs (Scottish National Party Members of Parliament) and one Labour MP with my own situation. It was very obvious that they were all well aware of the problems with mercury and vaccines, and that they are personally benefitting from the corruption. I don't think anyone gets selected for a political career unless they are already known to be blackmailable.

John Stone

Thanks Eileen

Yes, I should have mentioned it - I hadn't taken in that the practice changed in the mid 1980s and therefore was "a new factor".

Eileen Nicole Simon

John, yes, I also believe vaccines may be the last straw for children subjected to a multiplicity of iatrogenic abuse. The most glaring medical error since the mid 1980s has been the obstetric practice of clamping the umbilical cord immediately after birth. Textbooks of obstetrics up to that time all taught that the cord should not be tied or clamped until pulsations of the cord ceased. Pulsations are evidence that the fetal heart valves have not yet closed, and that oxygen is continuing to be supplied from the placenta.

In the UK many obstetricians have worked hard to get immediate clamping of the cord stopped, and a portable resuscitation table is now available so that resuscitation procedures can be started without clamping the cord. Lookup papers by D Hutchon. As of this past December new NICE guidelines have been put in place for delivery of the placenta. With active management the cord is not to be clamped until 1 to 5 minutes after birth. With physiological management the cord is not clamped until it stops pulsing. I do hope this will 5 years from now result in fewer children needing special education.

Jeannette Bishop

This testimony in a Maine hearing gives another and similar view of the epidemic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDyHm7ua8js&feature=youtu.be&list=PLEFDuIrf_44dQiWsAnArcT9Z3d6mhIwSV&t=955

John Stone

Just to correct myself in the paper "Vaccine programmes must consider their effect on general resistance" http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e3769 Aaby does find a benefit in overall resistance from the single measles vaccine (no mention of MMR) but has conversely negative findings on the effect on mortality from DPT which is enforced no doubt across the globe with equal religious zeal.

John Stone

Eindeker

Regarding Aaby, I don't think that is what I had in mind.

About Wakefield you are completely wrong.

http://www.canaryparty.org/index.php/the-news/118-open-letter-to-the-sponsors-of-brian-deers-lectures-at-the-university-of-wisconsin-la-crosse-october-2012-

Also you wonder what is the interest of the Department of Homeland Security. That seems exremely sinister and off-beat.

A number of interesting points have been made here about the thimerosal. However none of this is strictly relevant to the article. My own guess is that the rising tide is largely related to a multiplicity of modern forms iatrogenic abuse (often the vaccines are the last straw), too many ultrasounds, SSRIs etc., too many vaccines plus environmental toxins. The overwhelming point I made was about the deliberate dereliction and obfuscation of the UK Department of Health. "Fiddling while Rome burns" is a phrase which comes to mind.

Eindeker

@ Greg
No not at all!

Eindeker

Dear John
Sorry but if this is the study you refer to by Aaby they state:
"Hence, consistent with many previous studies,5 7 11 24 34 the trial could be seen as supporting the hypothesis that measles vaccine has a beneficial effect on non-measles related childhood mortality.

& The way to explain the beneficial non-specific effects of measles vaccine for girls is that early measles vaccine reduces susceptibility to severe infections with pathogens other than measles virus. In this trial, children vaccinated against measles had a significant reduction in admission to hospital, particularly admissions due to pneumonia, and this effect was strongest for girls (unpublished data). We have previously observed that the non-specific effects of vaccines seem to be strongest for pneumonia.

John you complain about funding bias in the recent study, but surely to be consistent the same criticism is equally valid for Wakefield's paper, which as you & I both well know, received substantial funding from the UK legal aid fund: best part of £0.5m

Re your other point John it's a post hoc analysis with all the caveats that this entails but the commentary is quite up front about this:
"At this point, Mina and his collaborators decided to evaluate the data making different assumptions about how long the possible immune-amnesia effects of measles may last. This exploration uncovered a very strong correlation between measles incidence and deaths from other diseases, allowing for a "lag period" averaging roughly 28 months after infection with measles. This finding was consistent in all age groups across the three countries and also consistent in pre- and post-vaccine eras.

Don't see a problem myself, it's hypothesis generating data but very interesting, BTW any more thoughts on the Scottish data & thiomersal?

Greg

@Eindekker

Reading between your lines, I am to assume that you are confident that thimerosal plays no role in the etiology of autism, but you are not so sure about vaccination?

John Stone

Eindeker

I really should not comment more here. Unfortunately this paper is restricted access (odd that in itself).

"The work was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Science and Technology Directorate of the Department of Homeland Security, and the Research and Policy for Infectious Disease Dynamics (RAPIDD) Program of the National Institutes of Health's Fogarty International Center."

Secondly, they apparently dredge through lots of old data (no doubt with lots of confounders) looking for an effect but they are disappointed so they change the design.

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S43/10/03O18/index.xml?section=topstories,featured

The findings, I think, are at variance with Aaby somewhere who found long term benefits of measles infection on mortality. Whatever, there is painfully clear funding bias.

Angus Files

So Eindeker I don't waste my time with many trolls these days ,better things to do ...but ....you say in your post a snippet below

" there is clearly a very strong genetic element in ASD, male v female incidence, incidence in identical & non identical twins, familial linkage. It appears that increasing parental age does have a role to play http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24408971 ."

So why do the corrupt Pharma still vaccinate with a one size fits all?(a clue is in the question)

MMR RIP

Eindeker

@Greg I suspect a clue to the answer lies in the name, ASD is a spectrum of disorders: varieties of autism, Tourette's, Asperger's it is clearly highly complex, and, in my view unlikely to be a single cause. I just look at the evidence: there is clearly a very strong genetic element in ASD, male v female incidence, incidence in identical & non identical twins, familial linkage. It appears that increasing parental age does have a role to play http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24408971 .

What I do know is that there is no evidence of any drop in ASD following the implementation of thiomersal free formulations, and BTW the majority of vaccines are thiomersal FREE, and do not contain "trace amounts" please see tables 1 & 2 in http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#t1 . The stats John provided for Scotland clearly demonstrate this and in it's nonsense to suggest that increased vaccines containing these trace amounts in any way counteract the vast reduction in thiomersal.

What I also know is that vaccines have saved very many lives, very recent evidence shows that infection with WT measles has a damaging system on the immune system lasting several and immunisation with MMR has a far broader effect beyond just measles and provides protection against other infectious diseases by preventing infection with WT measles virus http://www.sciencemag.org/content/348/6235/694.abstract
Immunosuppression after measles is known to predispose people to opportunistic infections for a period of several weeks to months. Using population-level data, we show that measles has a more prolonged effect on host resistance, extending over 2 to 3 years. We find that nonmeasles infectious disease mortality in high-income countries is tightly coupled to measles incidence at this lag, in both the pre- and post-vaccine eras. We conclude that long-term immunologic sequelae of measles drive interannual fluctuations in nonmeasles deaths. This is consistent with recent experimental work that attributes the immunosuppressive effects of measles to depletion of B and T lymphocytes. Our data provide an explanation for the long-term benefits of measles vaccination in preventing all-cause infectious disease. By preventing measles-associated immune memory loss, vaccination protects polymicrobial herd immunity.

I'm sorry if this is not giving you the answers you want Greg but I am not at the cutting edge of this research, I just examine the evidence and draw what I believe are valid conclusions

John Stone

Eileen

"Vaccinations are highly visible invasive treatments. Investigation of the many parental reports of reactions and regression must be demanded. Epidemiology does not provide any evidence relevant for the minority who suffered injury from vaccination. More information must be gathered about the injured minority, especially because numbers of brain-injured children keep rising."

Yes, I am sure the critical "error" of Wakefield and colleagues was the ethical integrity with which they listened to the parents of their patients. This should be routine and part of being a doctor. When Dr Kumar (medicines licensing agency regular and chairman of the GMC panel) pronounced sentence on Prof Walker-Smith he said something remarkably like they were exacting the harshest punishment (erasure from the medical register) because Walker-Smith had crossed government policy. Of course, later on Walker-Smith was completely exonerated, but not before he had had his life trashed for eight years.

Greg

OK Eindekker, I will bite and play your game. I think the dramatic rise in autism is due to excessive vaccination, although I also suspect it goes beyond one vaccine ingredient (thimerosal) and one vaccine (MMR). Now your turn, what do you suspect is causing the dramatic rise in autism cases?

Eileen Nicole Simon

Vaccinations are highly visible invasive treatments. Investigation of the many parental reports of reactions and regression must be demanded. Epidemiology does not provide any evidence relevant for the minority who suffered injury from vaccination. More information must be gathered about the injured minority, especially because numbers of brain-injured children keep rising.

Something to watch in the UK will be whether new guidelines for delivery of the placenta at birth will lead to reduction in numbers of children requiring special education. These were published in December 2014, and can be found in several places on the nice.org.uk website.
http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg190/ifp/chapter/Delivering-the-placenta

Physiological management will now be promoted. Notice that this includes waiting for the umbilical cord to stop pulsing before clamping it. Pulsing is evidence that the fetal heart valves are still open and that oxygen is still being delivered by the placenta. Pulsations of the cord stop after the lungs have fully taken over.

Clamping the cord immediately is no longer part of active management. Note that the cord should be clamped one to five minutes after birth. Let's see if in the next 5 years this begins to affect numbers of children with mental impairments.

Eddie Unwind

Heading for 'Immunotopia' if things continue on like this. I think that many of the immuno-fanatics are simply - unsurprisingly - immune, with regard to reflecting upon what kind of society that would be.

John Stone

Jenny

It is truly dismaying how having made a pantomime demon out of Andy absolves the political class from having to give a straight answer about anything. It was already going that way in 2000 when I started to correspond with Whitehall - I wasn't writing about MMR, if I remember I was writing as now about the steepling autism figures and they came back with a response about Dr Wakefield and MMR. We are now of course in a catastrophically worse position and it still it goes on. It is like a vehicle without breaks (and even the steering is going) lurching forward faster and faster.

The culture of the Department of Health has been defective going back far into the mists of time. Although it did not touch specifically on vaccines the House of Commons Select Health Committee report in 2005 'The Influence of the Pharmaceutical Industry' condemned the culture (p.3):

"The Department of Health has for too long optimistically assumed that the interests of health and of the industry are as one. This may reflect the fact that the Department
sponsors the industry as well as looking after health. The result is that the industry has been left to its own devices for too long. It may be relevant that this is the first major select committee inquiry into the pharmaceutical industry for almost one hundred years – the
last was undertaken by the Select Committee on Patent Medicines which reported in August 1914."

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmhealth/42/42.pdf

And there is much more: unfortunately it remains the case that if nothing had been done since 1914 nothing was done after 2005 either. The DH and its licensing agency the MHRA (paid for entirely by the industry) fail to act as anything but enablers for the industry and it is the public who reap the consequences. This is perhaps a much graver issue than whether you happen to live in England or Scotland.

Sean Burke

Just started reading the blog due the vaccine wars in California and around the US. Really impressed with the quality of posts in the comment section. Finding people that opposes this madness is somewhat reassuring.

Joy B

Thanks Jenny Allan, I am pretty ignorant of Scottish politics aside from who is whom, etc. That is really sad, and all too familiar, to hear. I guess if someone western Pharmaland WERE to take things seriously, something would've been done already.

Jenny Allan

@ Joy B "Nicola Sturgeon, philosophically at least, wants sovereign budgetary and administrative control for Scotland.
This seems like an obvious cause for someone to take up with her, given the obvious implications for Scots."

NHS Health services have been devolved to the Scottish Parliament for years. Before she became First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon served as Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing for many years, within the SNP government. I have a sheaf of correspondence with her then health department on a number of issues, including vaccines. Amongst others, my responses have included references to the flawed Danish Madson et al epidemiological study 'debunking' any MMR vaccine/autism links. My pointing out the involvement of 'wanted felon' Poul Thorsen was ignored!!

More recently, I complained about a newspaper report blaming Dr Wakefield for a huge rise in adult mumps cases in our Scottish Universities and colleges. The source was a quoted comment from Scotland's Chief Medical Officer, (NOT a political appointee). My letter was informative, pointing out a large percentage of these mumps cases are found to have been fully MMR vaccinated as children. In England, it is now officially accepted the mumps vaccine component wears off. I provided lots of evidence from offical and mainstream respected sources, including some court info about the current Merck US litigation.

I suggested Scotland could take a lead here by reverting to the perfectly effective 'old' system of infant single measles jabs and rubella vaccine for girls only pre puberty. Prior to the introduction of MMR vaccine in the UK 1988, mumps was considered benign and was not even notifiable. Far better to contract this disease during childhood. It's nastier in adults and can lead to sterility. Up to a third of child mumps cases are so benign they go unnoticed.

The reply was a couple of paragraphs endorsing the views of the MOH. It's all Dr Wakefield's fault!! Ann Dachel is 'right on the button' here when she says:-

"Sturgeon and everyone else promoting the lies about autism will have a lot to answer for."

Angus Files

That's right Barry it comes under the legal term "trade secret" when making the vaccines .So they don't have to divulge to competitors the wonder brew.


MMR RIP

Angus Files

Sadly Nicola is not going to rock the boat.I have letters going back to 2008 and she makes it very clear of where she stands and that his firmly behind the JCVI.Along with this you have Shona Robinson wife of Stewart Hosie dyed in the wool Pharma nothings changed same old same old....

One of my letters below to Nicola via my MSP Jim Mather


Sunday the 2nd of November 2008

Jim Mather MSP
The Scottish Parliament
Edinburgh
EH99 1SP


Dear Nicola

Sorry for not replying sooner my computer crashed and I had to get the hard drive rescued .

I thank you for your letter I just wish Shona Robinson were like you ,whom has never replied to my e-mails/letters.

Changing the untested, un safe ,un accountable, vaccine choice/policy is foremost in my Life’s Works Agenda must do before I die I thought naively the SNP were heading in the same direction as I prior to being elected.

I still have the SNP banners /boards in my shed that I proudly put up and took down on behalf of the SNP prior to our great local SNP Minister Jim Mather being elected .
I am 45 years of age and on benefits 4 years now,as a full time carer for my son and so is my wife 42 years of age 9 years on benefits having both worked all our days prior to vaccinating Geoffrey ,we shall be on benefits for the duration of our lives caused by an untested vaccine.(for clarity, MMR each component tested separately but not combined, and a cast iron guarantee from the Tory government at the time when introduced that any adverse reactions caused would be under written and paid for by the government /not the pharmaceutical companies hence the robust defence at all costs)

Sadly my pride has been diminishing as of late with the SNP party and your letter compounds it more and your choice of words sadly reminds me of Tony Blairs slavering, toxic lies.

Tony Balir said
"I should say that the recommendations on measles mumps and rubella that the Government are following are supported by the World Health Organisation, the British Medical Association, the Royal College of General Practitioners, the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, the Royal College of Nursing, and the Community Practitioners’ and Health Visitors’ Association."--Tony Blair, Dec 18 2001
Also
Liam Donaldson, Chief Medical Officer,
"Measles kills 1 million worldwide"--- Sunday Times Jan 28, 2001
The above statements and particularly Liam Donaldson’s look to be lies in itself, and even if it was true it is and would be lying with the truth, as third world conditions bear no relevance to first world, and spins the great lie that the only thing stopping us from third world measles death rates is vaccination. Tony Blair’s statement by naming professional institutions spins the lie ,because the said very impressive titled professional boards say It’s the truth it must be I mean who is going to stand up and doubt so ancient and respectable professional institutions ,are they going to believe them or me ,sadly it’s the same old media manipulation spin we in the Autism community have always heard sadly your letter employs similar words and tactics.


You imply the JVCI are whiter than white , I disagree with the information given to you to report back to me with , you would get better advice if you went down to the butchers and asked the butcher the merits of turning vegan than asking the JCVI the merits of not vaccinating? Hypothetically speaking

You say
“I know that Mr Files has concerns about the JCVI and their potential links to industry, but all members are now selected through open competition by the Appointments Commission (whose role it is to ensure that the public appointment process is open, fair and impartial and that appointments details of all members’ interests are available on the JCVI website or through JCVI annual reports. “

This would be just and upright if said members had nothing of notice to declare and again it is taken on there word of trust that they have nothing to declare .

Let me give you some very recent examples of not declaring interests ,the first which arose last week in the Wakefield GMC fitness to practice kangaroo court in London. The General Medical Council Panel Hearing Chairman, Dr Surendra Kumar, failed to reveal his conflict of interests, inclusive of MMR vaccine manufacturer GlaxoSmithKline shareholdings, with the GMC refusing to media comment. Anyone adjudicating in the Wakefield fitness to practice hearing has the power to raise or lower the price of the shares. Previous Panel Chairman Professor McDevitt has already had to step down following Conflict of Interest exposure. In 2007, it was revealed that the Chair of the Panel for the Wakefield hearing,chosen by the GMC, was Professor Dennis McDevitt. Just before the hearing began Professor McDevitt was challenged by parents over undisclosed interests when previously unseen minutes of a meeting revealed that Professor Mc Devitt had been present at the 1988 JCVI meeting that approved Pluserix- MMR as safe for a product license. McDevitt continued to sit on the JCVI through 1991 when SKB were forced to withdraw Pluserix after serious adverse reactions were reported in a number of countries.

In 2004, the High Court Judge Sir Nigel Davis, in a closed hearing, rejected
the appeals made on behalf of vaccine damaged children(we were on behalf of Geoffrey litigants) whose legal aid had been withdrawn for a coming court case, which would ultimately represent some 2,000 cases. Weeks after this decision had been made, John Stone a friend of mine and a parent of an autistic child reported that the Judge had failed to disclose that his brother was a nonexecutive board director of GSK, defendants in the case. The case had been in progress for nearly ten years and was only months away from it's hearing inthe High Court.
The science lobby groups funded by the drug companies and especially Lord Dick Taverne the founder of Sense About Science and previously a major PR handmaiden for the pharmaceutical industry had campaigned heavily to get legal aid taken from the parents. After John Stone publicised the conflict of interest, Brian Deer (Times Journalist who raised the complaint against Dr Wakefield no parent has ever complained about Wakefield)accused him of being 'cruel' to the scions of the Davis family.

During Dr Wakefield's defense case the fact that Richard Horton's line
manager at the Lancet, the Director of the Elsevier publishing company, was
also a non executive director of GlaxoSmithKline, was reinforced. Dr Horton
gave evidence claiming that Dr Wakefield had failed to provide him with
evidence of his conflict of interest in relation to money that the Legal Aid
Board had granted the Royal Free Hospital. This evidence did not appear to
coincide with the historical record.Dr Horton made no declaration at the
beginning of his evidence that he was on speaking terms with one of the GSK
directors or indeed that such a person acted as his line manager at the Lancet.
Last year it was also revealed that the present editor of the New England Journal of
Medicine had share holdings in Glaxo Smith Kline.

I could go on and on the corruption in this, you couldn’t make up. believe me


Sadly I looked at the JCVI web site that you mention, and there are clear conflicts of interests (COI's,) Only 7 out of the 17 members had nothing to declare on the Declaration of Members Interests ,should these declarations not now be considered conflicts of interests(COI's) and be investigated ,but then again who’s going to investigate them the body that appointed them? (see attached) .I urge you to investigate..

Furthermore if you go back to the previous three years the COI's are far higher.Certain members aren’t declaring COI's such as Chairman Professor Andrew James Hall, Hall for instance does not mention his past work for Glaxo? Or are COI's like points on your driving licence, you can forget about them if they are more than 3 years old ?which if true ,would seem preposterous bearing in mind the vaccination schedule you follow just now in the country’s interest and that you quote are safe , hasn’t deviated much since Edwina Currys Tory agenda in 1990 set up by Hall and co when he had shares in Glaxo not to mention the payoffs Edwina has had since then from Glaxo. Again in the interest of whom its not the children’s health , that’s for sure.. sad to think your new born baby is of great interest to the greatest financial institutes of the city.

If the JVCI are being oh so ! Seemingly transparent about these matters surely these other previous years records should be posted on the web along with the most recent declarations’ why not?. Sadly with politicians(and sorry for putting an SNP minister in this category) I feel it’s a case of nothing worse than people who can see but don’t want to its the worst scenario of all?

The Scotland Performs web site is your own prerogative but for clarity , why send out an e-mail to me inviting members of the SNP me, for input to said website when it seems, you don’t really want any? Or you do but not vaccines/autism, Shona Robinson seemingly having autism in her family was making all the right vaccine /autism noises sucking in the autism community prior to the elections , but now sadly as they say of all politicans see what they actually do when they get in?she is doing nothing but introduce more untested vaccines such as Cervarix introduced into Scotland by Shona Robinson SNP MSP article in today’s Scotsman

Expert's fear over cervical cancer vaccine
http://news.scotsman.com/health/Expert39s-fear-over-cervical-cancer.4652314.jp
Published Date: 02 November 2008
By Siobhan McFadyen and Kate Foster
MASS vaccination of Scottish schoolgirls against cervical cancer should have been delayed because not enough is known about possible side effects, a leading researcher claimed last night.
Dr Diane Harper, one of the world's leading experts in the field, said safety trials of the Cervarix vaccine should have been conducted for at least four more years before the decision was taken to give the jabs to thousands of girls in schools.


I am not alone most of the Autism world not only in Scotland , also thought that the SNP were going to make change ,and talk is your just the same and going to do nothing. If you had any real intentions on vaccine policy the above Cervarix vaccine would not be tested in Scotland it rings,sound, of the Tories and the poll tax but it seems the SNP cant see this jugger-naught coming at them just as the Tories underestimated Scotland at there peril.

Mitochondrial Disease/Dysfuction/Disorder Tests

Quote “The Tests are expensive and not suitable for routine testing of infants” Un Quote

When you say expensive I suppose you do realise that the costs of looking after an Autistic low functioning disabled child in the family home costs millions of pounds to the tax payer (putting aside the absolute misery caused to the autistic children and families )

Our own sons placement in a residential school would cost nearly three hundred and fifty thousand pounds per year ,if we couldn’t cope with him this would have to be met by the tax payer on benefits just nopw my whole family live of 28k.
Children and families
Autism now affects approximately one in 100 children. There are around 100,000 children with autism in the UK, with around half a million family members directly affected by the condition.1
Four times as many boys as girls have autism and its prevalence is far higher than other disorders such as Down’s Syndrome or Cerebral Palsy.
Many families with autism live in poverty as it costs on average three times more to raise a child with a severe impairment than a non-disabled child.
An estimated figure commonly recognised within the autism community is that as many as 80% of partnerships where there is a child with autism will break down.
Impact
Only 11% of carers who have children with autism work full time, and 70% cite the lack of appropriate care facilities as their major barrier to working.
In schools identified as having pupils with autism, only 22% of teachers have received autism-specific training – the majority of training given is typically one to four hours.
The most recent survey found only 7,500 specialist places for over 90,000 children with autism in the UK.
One in five children with autism have been excluded from school, the majority of those on more than one occasion.
Over 40% of children with autism have been bullied at school.
Costs
A 2000 estimate, based on conservative prevalence rates, is that autism currently costs the UK economy at least £1billion each year, the vast majority spent on lifetime care. The average lifetime cost of autism was estimated as £2.94m. The research team stated that ‘Evidence suggests that even moderate increases in educational provision could potentially result in major savings in later living costs’.
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Notes
1 The Office of National Statistics recently reported a rate of autism of 1% in the population of school-age children. Office of National Statistics (2005), Mental health of children and young people in Great Britain, London: Palgrave Macmillan. The Medical Research Council suggested a prevalence rate of 1 in 166 children under 8, while teachers have reported numbers as high as 1 in 80. Medical Research Council (2002) Review of Autism Research: Causes and Epidemiology, MRC: London; Barnard, J. et. al. (2003), Autism in Schools: Crisis or Challenge?, NAS: London.
2 In the ONS survey cited above, 82% of children with autism in the sample were boys.
3 Sharma, N (2003), Still Missing Out? Ending poverty and social exclusion: messages to government from families with disabled children, Barnardos: London.
4 Broach, S et. al. (2003), Autism: Rights in Reality, NAS: London.
5 Barnard, J et. al. (2003), Autism in Schools: Crisis or Challenge?, NAS: London.
6 Jones, G (2002), Educational Provision for Children with Autism and Asperger Syndrome: Meeting Their Needs, David Fulton Publishers: London.
7 Batten, A et. al. (2006), Autism and Education: The Reality for Families Today, NAS: London.
8 Batten, A et. al. (2006), Autism and Education: The Reality for Families Today, NAS: London.
9 Knapp, M. & Jarbrink, K. (2000), The Cost of Autistic Spectrum Disorder,
Initially Mitochondrial Disease/Dysfuction/Disorder Tests urine test costs £7.00 (no doubt a discount for bulk orders would apply)which could mean the difference of giving a vaccine to a child whom has Mitochondrial Disease/Dysfuction/Disorder or not and saving them and there families from a lifetime of disability.
I believe that a simple urine test is the starter of diagnosis of a mitochondrial cytopathy this is by serumlactate, pyruvate,amino acids, carnitine and acyl carnitine; and urine organic acids, amino acids, carnitine and acyl carnitine.

If these are positive, then they would then do a muscle biopsy hoping to see an abnormal mitochondrial electron transport chain defect.
Again I cant agree with what you write“The Tests are expensive and not suitable for routine testing of infants” the mitochondrial test is expensive part two but I have just demonstrated it is not initially and compared to the savings it could make if used compared to a lifetime of disability and state support .

I urge you to look a bit harder at your ministers and whoever advised you to the wording of this letter as it is not accurate and grossly biased towards the pharmaceutical industry ,I urge you without delay to consider a study into mitochondrial dysfunction testing of infants , for the sake of the children and the country ,

Yours Sincerely

Angus Files

Mitochondrial and metabolic medical conditions are now referred to as mitochondrial cytopathies. Mitochondrial cytopathies actually include more than 40 different identified diseases that have different genetic features. The common factor among these diseases is that the mitochondria are unable to completely burn food and oxygen in order to generate energy.
The process of converting food and oxygen (fuel) into energy requires hundreds of chemical reactions, and each chemical reaction must run almost perfectly in order to have a continuous supply of energy. When one or more components of these chemical reactions does not run perfectly, there is an energy crisis, and the cells cannot function normally. As a result, the incompletely burned food might accumulate as poison inside the body.
This poison can stop other chemical reactions that are important for the cells to survive, making the energy crisis even worse. In addition, these poisons can act as free radicals (reactive substances that readily form harmful compounds with other molecules) that can damage the mitochondria over time, causing damage that cannot be reversed. Unlike nuclear DNA, mitochondrial DNA has very limited repair abilities and almost no protective capacity to shield the mitochondria from free radical damage.


MMR RIP

John Stone

Barry

"John, we don't know what's in ANY vaccine."

Actually, I said the same thing in agreement with Birgit just below.

Barry

Hi Barry

I don't know that we know that all vaccine contain mercury but agree that we can't absolutely know what is any vaccine and it is appalling that expectant mothers are being given these vaccines.

***********

But that's my point John, we don't know what's in ANY vaccine. And while we can't say with certainly that all vaccines contain mercury, we can't say with certainty that they don't all contain it either.

It's actually quite mind boggling to me that no-one is double checking this. And that no-one has ever cared enough to demand it.

@ Eindeker

All the people who knowingly covered up the truth have to be nervous. This damaged generation as dependent adults will come with a price tag no country can afford. The best evidence that autism is an epidemic of recent origin is the universal lack of services for adults. Something has dramatically impacted the health of our children and the response of health officials and mainstream doctors has been to deny anything is wrong.
The clock is ticking louder and louder. The inevitable impact autism will have on the taxpayers can't be hidden away. And when the cost of the autism epidemic becomes a worldwide economic disaster, the public will demand to know why no one did anything to stop it. How could those in charge of our children's health have closed their eyes to the suffering of so many?
Sturgeon and everyone else promoting the lies about autism will have a lot to answer for.
Fantastically said, Anne!
Eindeker, I can't help but notice that you haven't ventured a theory as to why autism has increased. Coward!

John Stone

Hi Barry

I don't know that we know that all vaccine contain mercury but agree that we can't absolutely know what is any vaccine and it is appalling that expectant mothers are being given these vaccines.

Barry

Barry

The mercury containing DTP vaccine was phased out after 2004 in the UK - how long stocks took to run down is another issue. I think mercury was also phased out of flu vaccines for a bit (and it wasn't given to expectant mothers anyway, thought it is now). But I think you are right. From 2009 and the swine flu scam mercury crept back into the flu shot and has stayed, and pregnant women get it. They don't give it to infants yet.

********

Thanks John,

My point was more along the lines that the only vaccine ingredients that we know of … are the ingredients that drug companies tell us are in vaccines. Not exactly people who are known for telling the truth. So as far as we know, ALL vaccines contain mercury, even the ones that they tell us don't . And they probably all have from day one.

The other sad part that struck me about your reply, is that if pregnant woman are receiving mercury containing vaccines, then infants definitely are receiving mercury. They're just getting before they're even born.

cia parker

Eindeker,

But the number of vaccines with "trace" amounts of mercury has risen a lot, largely making up for the amounts that were in DPT, Hib, and hep-B vaccines. The flu vaccine only started to be recommended for all healthy children in 2004: before that it was not, and few children got it. And many children even now are getting it from multi-dose vials with as much mercury as it ever had.

Beyond that, any vaccine can cause vaccine encephalitis and autism just from the shock to the immune system of such an invasion: it reacts with too much inflammation, it makes the brain swell and cuts off circulation, and voilà, brain damage and autism! Even from a live vaccine like MMR, with no mercury!

John Stone

Gatogorra

From the corporate angle I am sure it is a matter of taking the money and running - it may well be like that for Cameron and Obama as well, but I would guess Sturgeon needs to have a longer term view: she is after all trying to build an independent and sustainable nation.

cia parker

Eindeker,
The "trace" amounts of mercury still present in the vaccines, which they cannot reduce any further, are still ten times over the hazardous waste level and a hundred times more than the amount permitted in drinking water. And the reason so many children did NOT react as obviously as others, was that there are genetic factors determining which react even at low levels and others not until higher levels are reached. I reacted to my first DPT at three months old by screaming for several days, my brother by beating his head on the bars of his crib (both signs of vaccine encephalitis), and my daughter, of course with four days and nights of screaming in reaction to the hep-B vaccine at birth. Like so many who have reacted similarly, she is very low-verbal and not able to use much language. Mercury has ALWAYS caused autism. Have you not read The Age of Autism (book) and Evidence of Harm? It's beyond doubt.

John Stone

Barry

The mercury containing DTP vaccine was phased out after 2004 in the UK - how long stocks took to run down is another issue. I think mercury was also phased out of flu vaccines for a bit (and it wasn't given to expectant mothers anyway, thought it is now). But I think you are right. From 2009 and the swine flu scam mercury crept back into the flu shot and has stayed, and pregnant women get it. They don't give it to infants yet.

Gatogorra

Thank you for this. I'm wondering if the cost of autism to states is really a natural incentive to seek the cause and stop it. Doesn't a significant portion of those costs pay for pharmaceutical drugs? In the US, it's also going towards increasingly privatized group homes and psychiatric institutions. It represents a mass transfer of funds from taxpayers to corporations.

John Stone

Birgit

It is an excellent point. We go through life buying products which are unsatisfactory and go wrong and we are some position to assess it. Vaccines are industrial products and were be asked or ordered to accept ever more of them, and it is totally on trust. It is not even as if the manufacturers in most cases have any history of striking integrity.

Barry

Accepting your stats John surely this means that thiomersal cannot have had any link to autism since this was removed from all UK vaccines used in the childhood immunisation program in 2004, Scotland still remaining a part of our country

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I'm not from that part of the world, but are you saying that mercury containing flu shots are NOT being administered to children and expecting mothers in England and Scotland?

Also, is your assumption that mercury has been removed from childhood vaccines , based on promises from drug companies that they would remove it someday?

Any chance you can provide something more concrete, which proves that they have actually removed it?

Birgit Calhoun

The problem really is whether any quality control can be trusted. It is expensive to actually test what's in the bottle. You may think the numbers are hard. They are not. They may not even test until a batch shows adverse effects. Can we trust what goes into a vaccine when they are known to be unavoidably unsafe. The vaccine maker boss may just say: You don't have to test what was actually put in the bottle. We can't be sued. We, the consumers, will never know until too many adverse effects are detected in a batch, and maybe not even then.

John Stone

Thanks Anne

I doubt whether Nicola Sturgeon is without minor blame in this already but with her new level of responsibility and as someone with at least a couple of potential decades left in politics the question arises whether she would not be wise to probe these issues which stand to engulf us all (including her) rather than just leave them to spin further out of control. She is still being fed advice from old and compromised institutions and she has the opportunity to think about it.

Anne McElroy Dachel

Thank you, John, for this critical post.

Just like all elected officials, Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland's First Minister, has been told by health officials that an ever-increasing rate in a neuro-developmental disorder that overwhelmingly affects children is nothing to worry about. This is true in Britain, the U.S. and everywhere else in the world. They all just pretend that everything that can be done about autism is being done. Inconclusive studies linking autism to a vast array of things are regularly announced. Every periodic jump in the rate comes with the assurance that officials aren't sure it THIS INCREASE means MORE KIDS ACTUALLY HAVE AUTISM.

No matter how bad the numbers, autism has never been a crisis to anyone in charge.

Doctors (with their "better diagnosing") are routinely given credit for the fact that everyone knows someone with an affected child.

All the people who knowingly covered up the truth have to be nervous. This damaged generation as dependent adults will come with a price tag no country can afford. The best evidence that autism is an epidemic of recent origin is the universal lack of services for adults. Something has dramatically impacted the health of our children and the response of health officials and mainstream doctors has been to deny anything is wrong.

The clock is ticking louder and louder. The inevitable impact autism will have on the taxpayers can't be hidden away. And when the cost of the autism epidemic becomes a worldwide economic disaster, the public will demand to know why no one did anything to stop it. How could those in charge of our children's health have closed their eyes to the suffering of so many?

Sturgeon and everyone else promoting the lies about autism will have a lot to answer for.

Anne Dachel, Media

Lock'm up!

If you have an allergic reaction to something a very tiny amount can trigger it. Topical allergy to thimerasol is common. Many are allergic to nickel another metal. Why couldn't a tiny amount of mercury trigger allergic reactions in top of all else?

Eindeker

OK Linda Riddle me this: Thiomersal has dropped to at least 1/1000th of it's previous level, the Scottish autism rates continue to increase, what is the only conclusion? In my simple world it's that thiomersal has nothing to do with autism, if you think it does please explain how the facts fit that conclusion.
Just FYI I'm not a "pharma insider", never worked on vaccines, just a microbiologist who almost died of what is now a vaccine preventable disease and an uncle who was crippled by polio

Birgit Calhoun

Here's to all those to whom trace amounts don't matter. Whenever preservatives are listed in trace amounts, there is no telling exactly how much has been added. As to checks on how much mercury is actually still in the bottle, they are few and far between considering how many millions of bottles of vaccines are filled. I used to work at a company where we added preservatives to a solution. The actual amount that went into each bottle varied by as much as 30%.

The quality control issues concerning preservatives are not ordinarily being addressed as much as would be desirable. That also goes for adjuvants, and even more so when it has to do with synergistic effects of adjuvants and preservatives (aluminum, formaldehyde etc. and Thimerosal). The active ingredients of the vaccine are generally the substance tested more thoroughly..

Joy B

Nicola Sturgeon, philosophically at least, wants sovereign budgetary and administrative control for Scotland.

This seems like an obvious cause for someone to take up with her, given the obvious implications for Scots.

Or maybe I've read her wrong in my late-night watchings of MSP-critters.

Tim Lundeen

Eindeker,

When you eat aluminum in food, most of it (98% to 99.7% is not absorbed). What you absorb is as aluminum ions, and is excreted by the kidneys, so net aluminum levels in the body from food are very low.

When aluminum adjuvant is injected, it is in the form of nanoparticles too large to be excreted by the kidneys. Instead, the particles are engulfed by macrophages and carried throughout your body, including to your brain and gut, where they cause long-term damage.

There is lots of detail at vaccinepapers.org, along with full-text copies of relevant scientific research. Aluminum adjuvant was introduced around the same time as thimerosal, and they are synergistically toxic. A match made in hell.

Jenny Allan

Eindeker says:- "the Hg situation which is a potent enzyme poison."

I'm very glad you accept mercury, in whatever form, is a dangerous element to include in vaccines.

@ Eindeker

Oh and stay proud Nicola Sturgeon and all you "health" personnel. Your lies and blind eyes to the problem are fooling no one.

@ Eindeker

So Eindeker, what is causing the rise in autism? Seriously, I'd be interested in your thoughts. It obviously isn't genetic and it is a serious and in fact grave problem for many.
Don't spew me that neurodiverse crap that autism is a gift, even if it is obviously true that all persons are worthy of love, respect, learning. I'm sorry that I can't be Suzy sunshine about it and pretend it's some sort of blessing when I have worked at a school where there was a mother child murder suicide.
Do tell us Eindeker, why is autism increasing?

John Stone

Not to mention GSK's swine flu vaccine.

Linda1

Eindecker,

The answer is easy to find. This is from the Minnesota Dept of Health:

"What is a trace amount?

Thimerosal is still used in the early stages of the manufacturing process of a few vaccines to ensure the production line is sterile. It is removed through a purification process, with only trace remaining (about 1/100th of the amount found in older vaccines).
Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal are labeled "preservative-free." Vaccines that do not contain any thimerosal are labeled "thimerosal-free."
Manufacturers are working to remove this trace amount found in a few vaccines."

You know, Eindecker, I think you are a Pharma insider. You deny facts that are common knowledge among the informed and you defend Pharma even when it's obvious that there are problems. Just saying.

http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/immunize/hcp/thimerosalfs.html

Benedetta

And Angus I left you a note on the last Microbiome Teresa wrote about Kefir. Did you get it?

For Eindeker

Eindeker;

Mercury and tics - My kids have tics. tourettes after a vaccine reaction. Mine did!

As far as reducing the mercury - it is still not out of vaccines - and that is right there in the literature - they still have it from manufacturing procedures and of course the flu shots have not taken it out -

But autism and inflammation and strokes in babies,seizures and the like that are vaccine injuries are still rising - so I guess we parents that witnessed vaccine reactions - and had to guess without the help of the ilk that works at the CDC, NIH, Pharma that now owns medicine -- - Oh dear - we guessed. Mercuy might have played a role but it looks like gosh darn ALUMINIUM Hydroxide what ever - sulfate or ide and ite or what ever.

Should I be surprised when I dehorn a cow and the blood rushes out that I can stop the bleeding instantly with aluminium compound. Oh, and I was forced by my Mother to clip the wings off of her peacocks and the blood gushed and I sprinkled it on and it clotted up really nice and all -- so OH, I guess I should have guessed aluminium right off. So sorry.

John Stone

Hi Cia

There is no doubt that south of the border in the UK local authorities c.2000 were under great pressure from the Blair government to reduce Statements of Special Educational Need (I believe there was a different system in Scotland). I can't remember the specific year but they wanted it down to 2% of students when it was already 3% and rising. I lost track of this but what I suspect was that with all the will of the government to put a lid on it the numbers continued to rise.

cia parker

How about THIS? The new method of solving the whole problem! The local private autism advocate the other day told me that she was a member of a committee convened by the public schools to look at the problem of literally EXPLODING autism rates. She told me that the school district told her that they must cull the exploding numbers and just cross out a set number of children on the public school enrollment lists to just REDIAGNOSE them by fiat as NOT having autism! That MUST be what they did to my daughter two years ago, when, at an IEP meeting a few months before she entered middle school, the "educational professionals" at the meeting said that she had been recovered to the point that she was then able to converse typically on a typical level with typical peers. And that was NOT TRUE AT ALL! She has NEVER conversed with ANYONE about ANYTHING! Was thrown in with the sharks in middle school, had break-downs from being completely unable to comprehend or perform AT ALL in the all-typical classes in which she was places (albeit with a para at her side), they put her to work alone on an online program, PLATO, (I thought at the time it was designed for language-impaired students, but it turned out it was considered challenging for typical students, difficult and very boring). She could do nothing and no one realized for four months (or didn't want to realize), until she got Fs on all the tests. I took her out of school when they were COMPLETELY unwilling to let her use instructional materials adapted for her comprehension level.

So everyone MUST be aware now that the authorities are SO overwhelmed by the HUGE EXPLOSION in numbers of autistic kids that they are dealing with it by denying that they have autism at all.

The advocate said that that was so unethical, so immoral, that she resigned from the committee. But, as in the medical field as well, most are happy to just do as they are told and continue to both cause and deny hundreds of thousands of cases of vaccine-induced autism.

Eindeker

All of which vaccines John are thiomersal free...Sorry but Al & Hg do not equate in any way Al is a normal component of circulation, (normal range 156-188 ug/L in serum)animal work showed a transient 5% rise in [Al]following use of adjuvant, well within normal variation, very different from the Hg situation which is a potent enzyme poison, that's why it's a preservative, unlike Al. Isn't it time to admit that the removal of thiomersal as a preservative in childhood vaccines has had absolutely no discernible effect on ASD incidence, in fact it's corresponded to an increase ,(!), just to illustrate the futility of blindly accepting such correlations with no thought.

Linda1 please give published data on these so called trace levels of thiomersal, thanks

John Stone

Eindeker

I certainly agree we can't conclude that it was a unique factor. In 2006, of course, we got the pneumococcal vaccine + 5 in 1 DTaP, IPV, HiB + Menigitis C. Now we've got Rotavirus and Menigitis B on its way, and all by 5 months in multiple doses. Not quite up to Paul Offit's 10,000 vaccines but well on our way. Of course, there is also aluminium.

Linda1

Re thimerosol being removed from vaccines. The thimerosol was never completely removed. There are still trace amounts in those vaccines, amounts which are not known to be safe and which could still interact with and potentiate the negative effects of other compounds, i.e. aluminum. There is also no trustworthy, independent oversight of manufacturing to ensure that the levels are even at trace amounts now. The public has no assurance as to what the levels might be other than the word of the manufacturers, who have been fined in the multi billions for criminal fraud for knowingly causing death to customers in the manufacture and marketing of many other deadly drugs.

Eindeker

Accepting your stats John surely this means that thiomersal cannot have had any link to autism since this was removed from all UK vaccines used in the childhood immunisation program in 2004, Scotland still remaining a part of our country

John Stone

Hi Angus

But this is the usual pack of lies from the NAS. One of the big problems your local authority will have in tracking all those adults is that mostly they are part of the mysterious hidden hoard. The 50,000 figure will no doubt derive from from the 500,000 figure created by the NAS for the UK in 1998 (Scottish population being about one tenth) and the entire thing is nonsense. If you go by the Bruescher 40% figure there would be 20,000 with intellectual disability alone - these would be highly dependent people but they still can't find them, because by and large they don't exist.

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