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Age of Autism Weekly Wrap: How Measles Makes the Case for the Amish Anomaly

AofA Red Logo Ayumi YamadaBy Dan Olmsted

It was a decade ago – “a budding spring day” in April 2005 – that I visited Amish country in Pennsylvania just a couple of hours away from Washington for my first Age of Autism column, titled The Amish Anomaly. I posed the question, “Where are the autistic Amish? Here in Lancaster County, heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country, there should be well over 100 with some form of the disorder. I have come here to find them, but so far my mission has failed, and the very few I have identified raise some very interesting questions about some widely held views on autism.”

I was a bit naive. My reporting, which found very few autistic Amish and a much lower vaccination rate than the country as a whole, raised the specter of a link between vaccinations and autism, a link that was starting to get some traction as the autism rate inexplicably exploded in America's children. The effort to nullify what I reported was quick and continuing: Opponents like Seth Mnookin portrayed the Amish Anomaly (which has its own Wikipedia page!) as junk on a par with Andy Wakefield's Lancet study:

“The various vaccine manufactroversies that have spread in the wake of Andrew Wakefield’s bogus claims that the measles component of the MMR vaccine might be linked to autism are too numerous to unpack in one brief blog post. One of the most persistent has been the Amish fallacy: Most Amish don’t vaccinate; there’s almost no record of autism in Amish communities; ergo, vaccines cause autism. (This argument has also been used, time and time and time again, to illustrate the efficacy of a proposed vaccinated-versus-unvaccinated study.)

“Not surprisingly, no part of the Amish fallacy — which has been kicking around for over a decade and gained new prominence and attention with this, purely anecdotal 2005 dispatch* — is true.” That link is to my first story.

Oh, Seth, there you go again, though I do appreciate, and I mean this sincerely, being pilloried in the same paragraph as Andy. Yet despite the scorn, the truth has slowly become obvious. Just listen to Max Wiznitzer, a neurologist from Cleveland -- hard by Amish country. He is firm: Vaccines don’t cause autism.

Oh. and the Amish don't have autism!

On Larry King in April 2009, Wiznitzer -- defending the vaccine program, arguing autism has not increased and insisting it is a genetic disorder  -- said the rate of autism in northeastern Ohio, the nation's largest Amish community, was 1 in 10,000. He should know, he said: "I'm their neurologist."

That correlates closely with what I wrote in June 2005, still in that first burst of Amish-autism stories, citing another mainstream frontline doctor with first-hand knowledge of the same population:

 "The autism rate for U.S. children is 1 in 166 [times change!], according to the federal government. The autism rate for the Amish around Middlefield, Ohio, is 1 in 15,000, according to Dr. Heng Wang.

"He means that literally: Of 15,000 Amish who live near Middlefield, Wang is aware of just one who has autism. If that figure is anywhere near correct, the autism rate in that community is astonishingly low.

"Wang is the medical director, and a physician and researcher, at the DDC Clinic for Special Needs Children, created three years ago to treat the Amish in northeastern Ohio.

"’I take care of all the children with special needs,’ he said, putting him in a unique position to observe autism. The one case Wang has identified is a 12-year-old boy.

“He said half the children in the area were vaccinated, half weren't. That child, he said, was vaccinated, but let's not split hairs here. Either vaccinated or unvaccinated, that's a low rate …"

These two vaccine-friendly doctors said the autism rate among children in northeastern Ohio was very, very low? Pre-autism-epidemic low? Uh, yeah, they did.

But what about the second part of the equation, the vaccination rate? Although Wiznitzer insisted Amish kids are vaccinated, Wang gives us a clue to what we're really talking about: in broad terms, he’s saying it’s half and half; 50 percent of the thousands of kids he takes care of are vaccinated. Whether the vaccinated half are injected on time with 49 doses of 14 vaccines before they are ready for school, I would doubt. The Amish do not, or at least didn't a decade ago, feel the mainstream compulsion to vaccinate; they are often born at home or in birthing centers, not hospitals, so no insanely dangerous hep B shot at birth; they usually don't have health insurance and don't make the punctual well-baby visits by which the vaccine program is organized; they tend to see family practitioners, not shot-mad pediatricians, and they attend Amish schools, and only through eighth grade.

Now, if vaccination coverage, full or partial, ever dipped toward 50 percent among the general population, you'd be hearing about the failure of public health policy and the triumph of the anti-vaxxers. Yet among the Amish, it's taken for granted. (Of course, there are studies that refer to higher vaccination rates among the Amish; there are studies that find anything you want, and that are conveniently vague on the schedule the children followed.)

If that's not convincing enough, consider measles.

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Ah yes, the measles “outbreak” – the event that supposedly shows how ignorant smug liberal “anti-vaxxers” are ignoring the “proof” that “vaccines don’t cause autism” and creating pockets of resistance in Hollywood and around Whole Foods and wherever rich selfish entitled idiots gather, and are a threat to themselves, each other, their neighbors, their neighbor's child, their neighbor's child's dog, and the future of the republic.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Amish of northeastern Ohio. You want to talk about your measles outbreak in your unvaccinated kids? Leave your Volvo station wagon and your cloth reusable grocery bags behind and climb into the horse and buggy.

Even as I was being spit-roasted by the online publication Vox last week for spreading the goofy theory that vaccines cause autism ("Understanding the fear of vaccines: An activist explains why he buys a debunked idea"), another story on their online home page that same day was headlined, “How an Amish missionary caused 2014’s massive measles outbreak.”

Writer Julia Belluz: “Last year was terrible for measles in the United States: there were 644 cases — the highest annual caseload in two decades. Granola-crunching Californians, wealthy Oregonians, and Jenny McCarthy anti-vaccine acolytes have taken much of the blame for this spike. The Washington Post even pointed to Orange County — the location of the current Disneyland outbreak — as Ground Zero in our current epidemic of anti-vaccine hysteria.

“But that's wrong. The real story behind the 2014 outbreak isn't on the West Coast. It's in Ohio Amish country, where a missionary returning from the Philippines turned an otherwise unremarkable year for this virus into one of the worst in recent history. ... The northeast Ohio outbreak accounted for more than half the 644 measles cases last year.”

OK, so they vaccinate less. They vaccinate less and they have less autism.

As I said, the nullifiers were not about to let that stand, even though it wasn't proof of anything, only very interesting anecdotal evidence that, added to thousands of parental accounts of vaccine-induced autistic regression, would have prompted urgent follow-up from an unbiased, child-focused public health system. 

A blogger at Autism News Beat quoted Dr. Kevin Strauss, MD, a pediatrician at the Clinic for Special Children in Lancaster County” as saying he “sees plenty of Amish children showing symptoms of autism.” (Plenty – now there is a precise description. Compare to Wang’s and Wizniter’s 1 in 10,000-15,000!)

The blogger continued: “Strauss said the clinic treats ‘syndromic autism,’ where autism is part of a more complicated clinical spectrum that can include mental retardation, chromosomal abnormalities, unusual facial features, and short stature, as well as Fragile X syndrome. ‘We see quite a few Amish children with Fragile X,’ he said.”

As I wrote back in 2008: “Short people, unusual facial features? Well-known genetic disorders with autistic features? That doesn’t sound like the autism that’s soaring out of sight and causing a public health crisis in the United States at this very minute, does it?

“No, it doesn’t. And there’s a reason for that, as the blogger wrote: ‘Strauss says he doesn’t see "idiopathic autism" [autism for which the cause is unknown] at the clinic - children with average or above average IQs who display autistic behavior. ‘My personal experience is we don’t see a lot of Amish children with idiopathic autism. It doesn’t mean they don’t exist, only that we aren’t seeing them at the clinic.’”

This is quite amazing, really -- no autism in otherwise typical Amish kids! 

Another piece of evidence supposedly arguing against the Amish Anomaly: a reported higher rate of autism than I, or Wang, or Wiznitzer reported. A blogger named Sullivan, sounding oddly like Seth Mnookin -- do these folks discuss their talking points with Dr. O? -- wrote about it in 2010:

“One of the topics that comes up over and over online is ‘The Amish don’t vaccinate’ and ‘the Amish don’t have autism’. Both statements are incorrect. The Amish have no religious prohibition against vaccination and they do have autism.

“The question of autism amongst the Amish has been studied and is being presented at the IMFAR autism conference this week. The paper, Prevalence Rates of Autism Spectrum Disorders Among the Old Order Amish, demonstrates a preliminary prevalence of 1 in 271 as the prevalence of autism amongst Amish children in two Amish communities: Holmes County, Ohio and Elkhart-Lagrange County, Indiana.”

This wasn’t exactly a paper, with all the scientific peer-reviewed trappings that implies. It was more like – in fact, it was – a poster. I took the train to and from Philly just to look at it, and reported:

“Of nine cases identified so far, three were from the same family and all had dysmorphic features similar to the father's that, the researchers acknowledged to me, suggested a genetic problem (not infrequent among the Amish due to their closed gene pool). A health professional I brought over to look at the poster presentation thought this family had signs of something called Menkes disease, an X-linked neurodegenerative disorder of impaired copper transport. Not too idiopathic in my book. (And a noted autism researcher told me he believes he has encountered this family at a conference, and that the mother reported all three regressed after the MMR. Two unvaccinated children were not affected.)

“I wanted to interview the main author at IMFAR, but when I pulled out my tape recorder he demurred. The study wasn’t ready (although already widely cited). And vaccines? Anything about vaccines? They were going to get to that as part of the final report, he said.”

Now, I’m not sneering at this study – or rather, this poster board that the author wouldn’t talk about. It’s evidence, and it deserves to be looked at carefully, and five years after the poster presentation we must be patent, so very, very, patient, as we await the actual study that has already been put to good use by my Amish Anomaly debunkers . (The possible link to the metals-transport disorder is particularly interesting, at least to me.)

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Here’s a conversation I had in 2006 with Carolyn Morton, the wife of Holmes Morton, director of the Lancaster clinic for special needs kids.

Olmsted: I heard, and I don't know if this is correct, that Dr. Morton had some experience with Amish children who have autism. I've written some about that and talked to other folks who had not seen that, and so when I heard that I just wanted to call up and see if I could talk to him and see what his experience is so I could get a better picture of it for our readers. So that's why I'm calling….

Morton: Right. I know with some of the genetic disorders some of the children here do have autistic-like -- a syndrome that resembles that but whether or not it is really autism...

Olmsted: Right.

This, remember, is the place with "plenty" of autism, proof positive that there is no Amish Anomaly; her husband never returned my call.

Looking back over the Amish coverage since my own reporting ten years ago, I'm reminded of two adages, the sports-based one about “kicking sand in the umpire’s face.” 

And the one about The truth will out. As the late great Bernie Rimland put it, "The autism epidemic is real, and excessive vaccinations are the cause. ... The truth must - and will - emerge. It is long overdue." And that was in 2003.

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Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism.

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Colleen Chase

After reading through many of these comments, I wonder how many people speaking here actually have ANY experience with the Amish, because I see a lot of misinformation.

I grew up in Ohio, near some of the largest Amish populations in the country. My family owned farms in Amish areas for decades, so I know what I am talking about. There are different rules among different communities, and some are more " old order," but i think some people, such as RAK , are confusing the Amish with organic farmers, or with hippies. You say that they farm organically? Raise their livestock humanely with no antibiotics? Do not use plastic, make their own cloth, no processed food, artificial dyes, etc. etc.? Not true. They do not use electricity. Some may use batteries sometimes. They DO live in the modern world in some ways. You tend to see them shopping at Wal- Mart and Kmart to save money, where the food they buy is often similar to other rural people. Try getting an Amish cookbook. You would be surprised at the recipes. They are more similar to 1950s food than 1850s. That means a LOT of processed food. They eat Velveeta. Jello. Cool- whip, Miracle Whip, Cake mixes, Kool- Aid. They do not eat some organic, minimally processed diet, and they do not all farm organically. Often their farms have poor conditions for tune livestock, not any better than non- Amish farms, and in some cases worse, because " animal rights" is not really a concept for them. In some of the Amish communities where i lived, i believe in Geauga County, and probably Holmes County, the Amish were known for running puppy mills. There was a well- publicized ring of Amish drug dealers, i believe selling cocaine ( look up rumspringa if you want to understand that). They wear sneakers and they use plastic. There are often power lines around their houses, because even if they are not connected, the house next door is often a normal American farm family. So they do not live this magical, chemical- free existence that some seem to think.

Colleen Chase

. I'm sure people here are familiar with the phrase "correlation does not mean causation"? Just because Amish communities might have lower vaccination rates ( and again, it is a fallacy that the Amish do not vaccinate. Their rates are lower, but comparable to many communities in CA and CO where anti- vaxxers are not vaccinating their kids) and lower autism rates, that does NOT mean that autism rates are lower because vaccination rates are lower. For one: You CANNOT try to use the Amish population in an experiment to draw conclusions about the public at large! They are an extremely closed society, with a lot of intermarriage, and a smaller gene pool. Autism has been proven to have a genetic link ( at least it is a component), and the Amish have very high rates of certain genetic diseases, so it would make sense that they have lower rates of others.

Also, if you think about your explanation for WHY Amish vaccination rates are lower, even if they do not necessarily have a religious objection, you will realize it has to do with health care access.

Now, think about the so- called " explosion" in autism. Is this actually such a huge increase in autism, or is it simply an increase in diagnoses? There could be environmental factors that increase some cases, but if most adults think bsck to when they were in school, try to think of how many children were diagnosed with ADHD, other behavorial problems, learning disabilities, and mental illnesses. Certainly FAR fewer than today. Do we have an epidemic of all these problems in our country? Or are these being diagnosed more today, and more accurately?

Autism today is often a rather blanket diagnosis, due to the idea of the spectrum. Now, 20, 30, 40 years ago, these children would likely have been classified differently. When I was in school, kids who are today considered "low- functioning" autistic most likely would simply have been classified as mentally retarded or developmentally disabled in some way, and higher- functioning autistic children would probably have been classified as learning disabled, or as having behavior problems, or possibly just thought of as strange or stupid. I do not mean that in a derogatory way, but a few decades ago, this would have been the case.

There are probably also parents today whose children really should be classified as having another developmental disability, but they push for an autism diagnosis, because the stigma is actually less these days, and there are a lot of services for autistic kids in some areas.

Additionally, developmental disabilities are more common in older mothers, and though it is true that younger women are having babies again, for a while it was becoming much more common for older women to have babies.

It is very simple to do a little research to find out the facts, though i know that parents who want to believe in this link will believe it, regardless of how much proof there is to the contrary. But the link HAS been disproven. In fact, the largest study yet shows NO link between MMR vaccination and autism. In fact, in that study, autism rates were actually lower in the vaccinated population. Now, if these parents were using the same logic, shouldn't they be arguing that NOT vaccinating kids causes autism? Of course, that is not true either -- it is simply true that parents who saw early indications of autism were less likely to vaccinate, AND parents who had one autistic child, which increases the risk of having another one, were less likely to vaccinate. And guess what? It did not make that second child any less likely to develop autism. Because there is no link. Because there are genetic factors. Which, if you think about, the Amish population certainly suggests.

Though another reason that autism rates are lower in Amish communities is also likely a lower rate of diagnosis. As we know, the Amish are more likely to see family doctors in rural areas, not specialists. It is likely that there are more cases not being diagnosed, just like there were probably many more cases not being diagnosed in the general population 50- 100 years ago.

People imagine a correlation because they have heard other people say that there is one. After their child is vaccinated, they might be looking for evidence that it affected them. And many parents might have noticed their child regressing after the time of their vaccine -- that is because of the nature of autism. Often a child seems to be developing normally, and then they regress. Often it happens around toddler or preschool age. That also happens to be when many children are vaccinated, but that does not mean it CAUSES the regression, any more than being potty- trained or going to preschool cause autism.

It is very sad that so many kids have autism, and it is understandable that parents want to have an outside factor to blame, something to crusade against, but crusading against vaccination is very dangerous. People in this country are spoiled by our access to medical care, and they are out of touch with the realities of disease. Most Americans do not remember a time when babies regularly died from communicable diseases, when it was normal for mothers to have a couple extra kids to cover it if one or two or three died. That is why a very similar subset of society thinks that it's cool to have " natural" births, to do it at home , instead of a hospital. While the " experience " may be better for some, I'm sure most women who remembered a time when it was common to die in childbirth and to lose or maim babies during childbirth were grateful to have access to hospitals. And though these natural moms do not like to acknowledge this fact, it is true that women who give birth at home are more likely to have complications, and have a higher infant mortality rate. I think it is the absolute worst kind of pretension to reject medical advances due to some fad or trend, or junk science that you heard about on a blog post from uninformed parents and average citizens, and to ignore scientific research done by professionals so that you can risk the lives of innocent children. It is selfish and thoughtless. If parents want to not vaccinate their kids, I do not think they should be allowed to attend public schools or daycares. They should be allowed their philosophical objections, as long as they do not endanger the health of other innocent children, and their parents. It is not fair to let your child become a public health risk just because you do not want to believe scientific proof.

Also, to the comments implying that some diseases , such as measles, mumps, rubella, and pertussis are not " serious": ( or the person who asks how many after the Disneyland measles epidemic ended up dead or disabled) those diseases ARE serious. There is a reason that we started vaccinating for them , and no, despite all the conspiracy theories, it is NOT because big pharma was trying to decide make money ( look it up : vaccines are not that profitable. They make up a tiny percentage of pharmaceutical revenue). These diseases DO kill people, and even if they do not kill as many babies as some people think that they "should" be, that does not mean that it isn't a big deal to get these viruses. The medical costs alone are MUCH higher than the costs of simply vaccinating the public, and childhood diseases can have LIFELONG effects on people. Children who contract measles tend to have a weaker immune system for LIFE. Look it up. This is a well- known fact taught in nursing school. That means that children who had measles will never be quite as healthy as their peers. They will be more likely to get sick in the future.

And just because most of these epidemics were not caused by the "anti- vaxxer" crowd, i think some people are getting confused and taking that to mean that those people are not having an effect on the population. I think people are missing the point -- the reason these outbreaks are happening IS because of people not vaccinating their children according to schedule. Whether the children are not being vaccinated because the parents have a philosophical objection, or because they have less access to health care, usually meaning they are low income, often minorities, is completely beside the point. No one is saying that people with philosophical objections cause outbreaks -- it is not vaccinating your child that contributes to it. Just because the ones missing vaccinations due to access are causing more outbreaks, this does not mean that the other parents are not putting children at risk. It simply shows the fact that throughout the country, low- income and minority populations are more likely to be underserved and have higher rates of disease.


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Sophie

While this is not directly related to humans, I had a dog who within a week after receiving routine rabies and distemper shots got violently ill.

Her immune system started attacking itself. I rushed her to a University
Veterinary hospital. She was in ICU for a week on an extremely high doses of Chemo and steroids.

The dog was 7 years old at the time. She had these shots before. The only different variable was that I got her vacinnsted 3 months later than normal.

The one thing I learned is that the live vaccine (I think it is distemper) doesn't need to be given after 7 years of age The other, and more important, is that the vets KNOW that these vaccines will cause the immune system to attack itself. The vet said that vaccine toxicity was more prevelt in cats. My own vet, who monitored my dog while on chemo went to school with someone at the Pharmaceutical company who manufactured the vaccines for animals. He couldn't believed that my dog made because most don't and yes, he knew the vaccine would turn on an animals immune system against itself.

My points are that it might be live vaccines only that increase the chance of autism AND Pharmaceutical companies don't publicly share the risks. It could also be that doctors and/or insurance companies want to give more shots in one visit than the body can tolerate.

Now, I make multiple visits to the vet with my new dogs to have only one shot administered per visit.

And, by the way, I am in my senior years and never had a tetanus OR Flu shot.


Megan

I have 2 boys with autism. The first is higher functioning and the 2nd is low functioning. They are close in age, 18 months apart. Both born at home naturally, not vaccinated except 1 shot (pertussis?) For the 2nd son....low functioNing one. I look at what I did during pregnancy and infancy with both but more with the 2nd. I look for clues. I thought I was healthy but I lived on protein drinks, which I thought were so great, but have since learned are a neurotoxin. I kept my cell phone in a pocket by my belly on pregnancy #1 and on #2 I literally sat the wifi laptop on my pregnant belly every day. I didn't even think about it. Both pregnancis I took fluconazole for a yeast infection, both pregnancies I took amoxacillan for strep throat (which led to yeast infection needing fluconazole). I used a lot of Tylenol and gas drops on both babies. First baby started watching dvds (your baby can read) at 6 months, second baby from birth (ashamed, but honest....just sharing my clues). This is when babies need to learn language cues from faces but mine were staring at a TV too much. Lived in apartment with no sunlight so vitamin D may have been a factor durine pregnancy, infancy. My own history, took a lot of acne antibiotics as a teenager, including Accutane. Lived on protein drinks. Tendency to yeast infections. Tanning beds a lot. Also took a lot of vitamins my whole life. Husband was a nurse and carried phone in pocket all the time. Also both of us had immunizations as adults in few years prior to conceiving. So 5 years after #2 we have changed everything.....whole food diet, no cell phones near body, no protien drinks, no ultrasounds, baby at home again, took lots of garlic for yeast, family drinks green drinks and fresh honey lemonaide everyday, and baby #3 is not autistic. Wouldn't looking at the parents give us the clues we need? Can't we share and find common threads and study those clues?

Benedetta

BayareaMom"

Well I thought that is what you thought - so I was kind of surpised at what you said, but then you were just making a smaller point on the larger picture.

George Bjornson

The Cause of Autism

Key evidence regarding the cause of autism can be found by comparing identical and fraternal twins with autism. If one identical twin has autism, there is about a 60% probability that the other twin will be autistic, but for same-sex fraternal twins the probability is about 20%. After conception, identical twins experience the same environment as same-sex fraternal twins. Hence the environmental factor creating the basic autism disorder must occur prior to conception, and so the basic autism disorder must be GENETIC.

But how can there be an autism epidemic if autism is genetic? Unlike normal genetic disorders, which develop over many generations, autism must develop in a single generation for it to evoke a severe epidemic. How can this occur? We must assume that an unknown factor damages a sex chromosome in at least one of the parents of an autistic child. The child produced by that damaged sex chromosome inherits the basic autism disorder, and thereby becomes a “vulnerable child”.

There are two major aspects of autism: (1) neurological damage, and (2) immune system damage. It is reasonable to assume that the basic autism disorder gives the “vulnerable child” a weak immune system. Vaccines are designed to operate on people with normal immune systems. Hence, when a “vulnerable child” with a weak immune system is vaccinated, a severe reaction can occur, which produces the neurological damage of autism. According to this explanation, vaccines do not cause autism, but without vaccines there would be no autistic neurological damage.

Ted

I assume Mr. Olmsted's curisosity was piqued by the relationship between metal transport defects in the Amish and the known association of autism with impaired metal transport, as documented by the Health Research Institute:
http://www.hriptc.org/pdfs/russo-mt-gi-childern.pdf

Bob Moffitt

@ RAK

"Yes, something is causing more cases of autism, but it's been proven it is NOT the vaccines."

I think everyone agrees that our children are living in a world drowing in chemicals .. creating environmental exposures that more than likely are becoming harder and harder for our natural immune protections .. digestion for what we eat, lungs for what we breathe .. and .. skin for what we touch.

However, speaking just for myself .. I think there is quite a distinction between exposures to chemicals toddlers eat, breathe or touch .. and .. chemicals .. such as .. formaldhyde .. or metals .. such as .. mercury and alluminum .. which are "INJECTED" directly into a toddler .. bypassing the toddler's natural immune protections .. at an age when that toddler's inherited immune system .. has not yet fully developed.

Do you really believe "science" has "ruled out" .. "injected" chemicals and metals .. as possible contributing factors to the epidemic of autism?

I know the epidemiological (population) studies have not found a "link between vaccines and autism" .. but .. I must remind you that epidemiological studies were once used .. successfully for decades .. by the tobacco industry to deny any link between "cigarettes and cancer".

Sure would love to see the "toxicology" studies that prove formaldehyde, aluminum and mercury have no affect on human cells or genes.

Bayareamom

@Benedetta/All:

Here is that list from Marcella Piper-Terry's website I recently mentioned:

http://vaxtruth.org/2015/02/my-child-at-risk/

SNIP:

Here is the list Marcella started out with re her research:

I am conducting research. If you or your child has had a vaccine-injury, what do you think may have contributed to making you or your child more vulnerable?


You guys are the experts in your family history.
For me, things that contributed are:

Strong family history of autoimmune thyroid disease;
Multiple amalgam (“silver”) fillings (in me);
Dad in the military (high vaccination rates);
Previous exposure to lead (from living in older homes, renovation);

Living near freeways in Southern California;
Previous miscarriages, clotting problems;
MTHFR, COMT, VDR & CBS mutations;
Recurrent strep throat and tonsillitis (chronic) in me (mom);

Rh negative blood type in mom & RhoGAM injections in pregnancy;

Previous adverse reaction to vaccines in mom (me)


HERE ARE THE RESULTS OF MARCELLA'S RESEARCH:

Here are the results, reported in order, from most frequently reported to least frequently reported:

Multiple amalgam fillings (in the mother): 153 of 309 responses (49.5%);

MTHFR genetic mutations identified (by laboratory analysis): 106 of 309 responses (34%);

Strong family history of autoimmune thyroid disease: 88 of 309 responses (28.5%);

Previous adverse reaction to vaccines (in mom): 79 of 309 responses (26%);

Chronic strep, tonsillitis, bronchitis, sinus infections in mother as a child: 79 of 309 responses (25.5%);

Strong family history of autoimmune disease other than thyroid disease: 78 of 309 responses (25%) – (specifically mentioned: Rheumatoid Arthritis, Diabetes, Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, Crohn’s Disease, Celiac Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Eczema, Allergies);

Rh- factor in mother and RhoGam injection during pregnancy: 65 of 309 responses (21%);

Parent in the military: 61 of 309 responses (20%);

Previous exposure to lead: 57 of 309 responses (18.5%);

Previous miscarriage, history of clotting problems: 56 of 309 responses (18%);

Antibiotics given to child at birth or early infancy: 35 of 309 responses (11%);

Mother’s diet high in GMO foods: 28 of 309 responses (9%);

Living near freeways: 24 of 309 responses (8%);

Other factors that were mentioned specifically by respondents included the following:

Environmental exposures to chemicals, pesticides and heavy metals (e.g., lived on or near farms, lived near coal burning power plants, worked in health care and received yearly flu vaccines, worked in dental office);

Flu shot in pregnancy;

TDaP in pregnancy;

Antibiotics in pregnancy;

Rubella vaccine while breast feeding;

Sulfa allergies in mom;

High incidence of alcoholism, bipolar, schizophrenia, autism, ADHD diagnoses in family;

Giving Tylenol before and after vaccines
Lyme disease
Pitocin (induced labor)
Multiple ultrasounds
Family history of cancer (immediate family)
C-section
Traumatic birth
Terbutaline
Premature, low birth-weight
Mold exposure

Bayareamom

@Benedetta:

Please read the document I have provided under "Cause." The document I have provided - in its entirety - is of an interview with attorney Walter Kyle, who used to represent families of vaccine injured victims before the vaccine court.

EXCELLENT INTERVIEW and one in which needs to be circulated to every Congressman and representative re this entire vaccine issue.

Bayareamom

"I have to address RAK on their comment. I lived for almost 15 years minutes from Middlefield, Ohio-- the Amish Mecca. I will say this, the Walmart would be FILLED with Amish that were driven there in vans by local regular civilians like us. And their carts would be jammed packed with processed foods, undergarments (like long johns) and tools. So they ARE exposed to many chemicals that we are as well.
Just wanted to clarify they're not as "clean" as we'd like to think. They also went for medical care at the Cleveland Clinic (where I worked). But while they did seek western medical care, those of us who worked there were very aware that they did not vaccinate their children."


I grew up in Medina, Ohio. We have both Amish and Mennonite families on my Mother's side. I can still remember our family reunions; we would at times see some of the Amish buggies in the parking area when we'd pull up.

I know, as some of the commenters here seem to understand as well, that the Amish are not as 'pure' as one would think. They do, at times, use electricity; their food is not always home grown and/or organic as you would think. In short, in some respects, the Amish are ingrained into the fabric of our society is more modernistic ways than has been understood.

BUT - guess what they DON'T do that the rest of us probably have?

VACCINATE.

THEY DO NOT VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN, although 'some' families who have taken in adopted children HAVE been told they need to vaccinate those children or the adoptions don't go through.

@Benedetta:

I am not saying that there is SOLELY a genetic issue with those that react to vaccines. But there are genetic predispositions which have been documented, finding that, indeed, there are certain anomalies (genetic) involved which do predispose certain individuals to having severe reactions to vaccination.

I believe Marcella Piper-Terry has these listed in bullet point fashion on her website.

Example: Mothers who have the Rh-negative factor seems to be an underlying factor with MANY (not all however), but with many Moms who have known vaccine reactions.

I have the Rh-factor; I am 0 negative. I do have a very sensitive immune system, as does our son, who does NOT have the Rh-negative factor, but he has ME for a Mom, which seems to be an underlying issue with all of this.

Linda1

Bayareamom,
I think that sensitivity to poorly regulated and invisible EMF/RFR has to do with lifetime cumulative exposure, as with other forms of radiation.

A. Fawcett

I have to address RAK on their comment. I lived for almost 15 years minutes from Middlefield, Ohio-- the Amish Mecca. I will say this, the Walmart would be FILLED with Amish that were driven there in vans by local regular civilians like us. And their carts would be jammed packed with processed foods, undergarments (like long johns) and tools. So they ARE exposed to many chemicals that we are as well.
Just wanted to clarify they're not as "clean" as we'd like to think. They also went for medical care at the Cleveland Clinic (where I worked). But while they did seek western medical care, those of us who worked there were very aware that they did not vaccinate their children.

I remember reading Dan's report on the Amish years ago (still have it saved on my computer desktop) and thoroughly enjoyed this one as well.

Linda1

ASusan,
"The Amish DO use electricity - they just are not connected to the grid. Every worker has a cell phone; they just turn it off when they're with family"

To whatever extent that is true, it would be fairly recent, in the last 10 years or so, and may account for the reported (MSM claimed) increase in cases of autism among the Amish.

ASusan

RAK - Where DO you get your information about the Amish? You buy into every stereotype about the Amish, almost all of which are not true. It's OK, I used to hold those very stereotypes myself, until I had experiences with the Amish which shattered each and every one. No weedkiller? I witnessed a boy of about 13 use a hand-sprayer of weed-killer, barefoot, on the entire length of their driveway as we sat with his father, discussing the plans for our house. The favorite beverage of our Amish house builders? Mountain Dew. The Amish who shop .5 mile from my house at Wal-Mart, Aldi and sometimes Kroger (further down the hill and through more traffic, so less common)? They have the same packaged, processed boxed food-like substances in their cart that you and I have in ours.
The Amish DO use electricity - they just are not connected to the grid. Every worker has a cell phone; they just turn it off when they're with family. And there are HUGE variations in sects of the Amish. Some might be as you describe, but by no means does "clean living" describe the majority of the Amish.

Benedetta

I meant the DPT vaccine increased to four in the first two years of life

Benedetta

Bayareamom;

All depending on how much the parents and grandparents were vaccinated

Vaccination injuries are not always ending in autism either.

The immune system is being inflamed by vaccines and that is a problem - all by itself. Of course adding on to it is what other junk is in a vaccine - stuff that posions like heavy metals and viruses. But the fact they inflame

Just think what we have done starting in the 70s - with the added on DPT shot; increasing it from one as a baby - to four in the first year.

Right there brought up the autism rate 1 out of 300 according to all we know and can figure out .

They could care less and in spite of the warning there they increased the vaccination rate in the 90s and have not slowed down since.

Thise kids if lucky to have children -- are going to have unhealthy children.

And so the human race - at least in the modern world goes quietly into the night.

Not an MD

Very interesting, Victor. I am by no means an expert on the Amish. I do have a high level of respect for them, however, as they are so close to nature with their lifestyle, and so in touch, as a community, with God.

Once I stopped using pesticide on my lawn, I noticed a huge variety of birds building their nests and flying overhead. Once I grew a garden, I was rewarded with the sight of colorful hummingbirds, and goldfinches. There is such great beauty in nature. If only we would stop trying to reinvent it, and improve upon it, as if we could.

Victor

Not an MD, Rak doesn't raise any interesting points from what I see, since she obviously is generalizing when she refers to the Amish, there are many variations of the Amish so which one is she really talking about? The only interesting point is that she is not very familiar with the Amish since everything she said that the Amish don't do, there is a variation that actually does do, including growing GMO's, pesticides etc. It seems to me that Rak is assuming more than actually understanding the many variations of the Amish.

Bayareamom

..."Why did some children given the same vaccines develop autism and others not?.."


Genetic makeup, in large part, I would imagine, which also would help to explain why some of us are more susceptible to wireless radiation exposure than others (link taken off Lawrence Palevsky's Facebook page):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B14R6QNkmaXuT1o0aDhWRERmYlE/edit?pli=1

Not an MD

Oh, RAK. You raise some interesting points, and there is no reason to think that the Amish aren't much better off than the rest of us due to their cleaner lifestyle, but to state that vaccines are not the cause of autism, when that has never been proven scientifically is plain poppycock!

There is no study showing that the multitude of vaccines recommended by the CDC and given to our babies and children, in the combinations they are given is safe. Not one study comparing the fully-CDC-schedule-vaccinated-children to their same-age-completely-and- totally-unvaccinated-peers. There are plenty of completely unvaccinated children to use for the study, and no possibility of any ethical issues regarding the withholding of "life-saving" vaccines from these children, as that is exactly what their parents want and what they have chosen and done. Why hasn't this simple study been done? You want to prove what you say, don't you? Show us the study! Make it happen. What is there to lose? Don't lie and tell us it has already been done, when it clearly has not been done. That study will never be done, because everyone already knows what it will definitively show. The results of that study would prove, without question, that vaccines in the combinations given weaken immune systems, give rise to auto-immune diseases, and kill babies and children.

RAK

What you are completely and utterly ignoring are the hundreds of thousands of chemicals that Amish children AREN'T exposed to. They grow their own food, organically. Their animals are raised naturally, not on massive feedlots where they are given antibiotics to curb diseases that are the inevitable result of cramping animals into tight spaces. They drink water from wells, not from the municipal water services, where water is contaminated with dozens of prescription drugs. No chemical fertilizers, weed-killers, or fertilizers. In most cases, they live on land their families (or other Amish families) have been living on for a least 100 years - so the soil isn't contaminated from prior use. The Amish save their own seeds, so they aren't eating GMOs. No Round-Up Ready wheat in the Amish community. They don't eat processed foods. They don't use artificial food dyes. They don't use commercial air freshers, like Glade or candles with artificial scents. They don't use prepared consumer products like shampoos, conditioner, lotions, etc., which are full of parabens and phthalates. They don't eat off of or cook in plastic containers. They use cast iron, ceramic or glass containers. They make their own soaps and lotions the old-fashioned way. They make their own detergents and don't use fabric softeners. Their clothing is hand woven and made of all natural materials (meaning their children aren't sleeping in clothing drenched in flame-retardant chemicals). They use cloth diapers on their infants. Their furniture is hand-made from all natural materials (wood, wool, cotton) -- again, no polyesters or rayons or flame-retardants. Yes, something is causing more cases of autism, but it's been proven it is NOT the vaccines. You are spending so much time fixating on vaccines that you are ignoring the massive forest of chemical exposures we are all bathed in on a daily basis. You are irrationally focusing on the one thing that has been proven to NOT cause autism and ignoring everything else that could potentially be causing the rise of autism. It's sad, because you could focus on finding the REAL cause and stop more kids from developing autism, but your refusal to let a disproven idea go won't let you place your efforts where they might actually be helpful.

Linda1

One more quote from Dr. Mallery-Blythe's talk. Here, the doctor points out the rate of brain cancer in UKs children. What is happening in the US with respect to brain cancer? They aren't telling us. They're too busy creating hysteria over a hundred cases of measles.

At the 38:32 mark:

Slide showing :

"Brain Cancer in Children
Brain tumour has overtaken Leukaemia as the leading cause of death in children.

There is a 5-10% annual rise in paediatric brain tumours annually.

Survival from brain tumour has not improved in the last 40 years...

More kids are getting brain cancer. Why?"

Linda1

I just want to add that most of us alive today do not remember a time when there was no electricity, but just as our children will not remember a time when there were no cell phones, lap tops and wi-fi, we must bare in mind that even electricity is a relatively new technology. My grandparents only had electricity in their homes as adults, and even then, only for a few lights. My father, in his 90s, remembers families who did not have electricity and as a boy, remembers the icebox that preceded the electrical refrigerator. The use (and exposure) gradually increased for more and more electric appliances in the first half of the 1900s. It is possible that there could have been a synergistic toxicity for the first autism cases, as wealthier doctors and scientists who were experimenting with mercury compounds and using the first vaccines, also would have been among the first to adopt the newest advances in electrical lights and appliances. Why did some children given the same vaccines develop autism and others not? Maybe the difference for some was in the way the house was wired? Epidemiologist Sam Milham points out how the use of electricity correlates with the increase in many modern diseases in his book.

I found this interesting article on the history of the use of electricity fyi:

http://www.rexophone.com/?p=1175

Linda1

Re EMF/RFR and the blood brain barrier and autism, at the 30:48 minute mark Dr. Erica Mallery-Blythe mentions this in her talk "Electromagnetic Radiation, Health and Children 2014"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNFdZVeXw7M

Jenny Allan

From above: (Linda1 also pointed out the Amish don't use electricity)
"The Amish do not, or at least didn't a decade ago, feel the mainstream compulsion to vaccinate; they are often born at home or in birthing centers, not hospitals, so no insanely dangerous hep B shot at birth; they usually don't have health insurance and don't make the punctual well-baby visits by which the vaccine program is organized; they tend to see family practitioners, not shot-mad pediatricians, and they attend Amish schools, and only through eighth grade."

In other words, the Amish way of life is similar to society > 60 years ago, when child vaccines were few and confined to REALLY dangerous and disabling diseases. As a UK child in the 1950s, I remember my parents' fear of diseases like diptheria, polio and tuberculosis, all rife at the time. They were glad to get their children immunised against these diseases, but would have been frankly amazed by any Government attempts to vaccinate against measles, mumps and rubella. In those days mothers held rubella and mumps parties to ensure their sons and daughters got these diseases in childhood.

Mothers were almost all housewives who knew how to nurse children through these diseases, which meant a week off school and some personal TLC from our mothers. There were few antibiotics, and these were expensive and reserved for very serious infections. UK children in the 1950s are now acknowledged to have been healthier than children today, in spite of widespread poverty and poor sanitation.

In the UK there are no Amish style communities, but we do have a small, but significant 'travelling' community. These persons appear to have similar attitudes to health services, including vaccines, and state education. This community uses education and health provision selectively, sending their children sporadically to schools, whenever they spend more than a few weeks in one place. I believe they are not against vaccines, but follow their own choices and schedules. The NHS is free at the point of usage in the UK. Thankfully, we have no child Rotavirus or Hep B baby vax in the UK vaccine schedules. The official stance towards travelling people is mostly one of non interference. They and their children always appear very healthy.

It is time for our respective UK and US governments to learn lessons from the Amish and other alternative lifestyle communities, reappraise the child vaccine schedule, and throw out all of those unnecessary vaccines, for mild diseases. I hope Congress is collectively prepared to LISTEN to their own citizens, instead of being relentlessly lobbied, bribed and bullied, by powerful vociferous corporate interests, including vaccine manufacturers.

Jeannette Bishop

Some doctors are confident vaccines don't cause autism because the Amish have less (no need to consider that they vaccinate less) and some are confident that vaccines don't cause autism because they are confident the Amish have the same level of autism.

How come we don't seem to have one really, really, confident-in-vaccination medical professional (or non-medical politician for that matter) out there trumpeting a real counting of the rate in never-vaccinated groups to finally put the "baseless" controvery to rest?

Nancy

Linda,
I couldn't agree with you more and I thank you for leaving your comment. I have an unvaccinated child with autism and although I will fight for the right of parents to choose whether or not to have their children vaccinated, I believe EMF/RF is a very large piece of the autism puzzle.

CD

I agree with you Linda1. There are many factors to consider in Amish communities that set them apart from the rest of the U.S.--- Low vaccination rates; no electricity use/EMF exposures; they eat pasture-raised animals and non GMO produce, and on and on. You would think scientists would be flocking to these communities to study their lifestyles, just as they do to regions with very low incidence of heart disease or unusually high rates of longevity.

Tim Lundeen

The CDC's report on California measles cases from Disney is up at http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm64e0213a1.htm

It shows that of the 110 cases in CA, only 18 of these were unvaccinated children with personal belief exemptions, or 16% of the cases. This hardly seems like strong support for the elimination of personal belief exemptions.

Anita Donnelly

If there is any autism in Amish it is likely caused by dirty nearby industries . Reading john grishams book gray mountain about the useless Kangaroos court for Black lung put together by the coal industry made me wonder. Is it possible that our realization about this obvious link to toxins is also being fought by the energy industry? where does the Mercury in thiomerosal come from? Could it be waste from coal or other industries? What about aluminum in shots? Could it be a sick cheap way to get rid of toxic waste? And why don't our environmental friends get that either the toxins in the shots go into the tissues of the infant or child or adult or they are excreted into the sewage system or landfills. Could that Mercury destroying your sushi fun have come from flu shots ? The amazing lack of science and respect for how toxins work amazes me. Forensic files could solve this in one episode. Dan you deserve the Pulitzer and the Nobe Prize. You are a hero . Thank you.

Linda1

I don't know why no one wants to consider this, but I'm going to point it out again - the Amish do not use electricity. So little to no EMF/RFR exposure, at least no where near the rest of the population. Scientists have been saying for years that this is a likely factor in the development of autism and other modern diseases. Microwave radiation is known to disrupt the blood brain barrier. This could potentiate the harm done by heavy metals and other vaccine toxins. EMF/RF exposures have increased along with the vaccine schedule and the autism rate.

Benedetta

do these folks discuss their talking points with Dr. O?

Yeah, my kid's ped gave me the same speech after my kids' vaccine injuries that my college professor had given a decade earlier.

Makes you wonder who is the main snake sitting upon a throne some where that thought it up - edited it just perfect- and hired an army of human tape recorders to spout it back out to students, and parents holding their precious bundles -

Dang it - I paid money for both of those identical talks.

And my eyes may have widen when my ped was giving me the speech of how kids with neuro problems don't present right away, but were going to and every child gets vaccines so if a- -- well you see where this was going.

But I still am kicking myself for being shy - sweet and young. Why in the hell did I now say -- Hey, Dr. Hedrick -- I heard what you are saying before; word by word before -- so where did you learn that speech.

Truth will out -- The people in power - really do have a lot of power cause all of the above was going on in the late 70s to the late 80s.

If people in power; didn't hold all the power there would have never been depopulation by starvation of the masses.

This is an on - going problem for the human race. Our founding fathers tried to address it. Ben Franklin said he had a Republic if we could keep it.

I hope truth will out. I keep having hope just because of Dan and Mark, and Dr. Wakefield- people like Dr. Hooker, and many others -- well at least there are disenters. It takes disenters; but surely when Stalin starved so many of the Urkaine population, or the British policies, and bad weather starved the Irish - were there enough of them?

I heard that the Irish people woul still load up their live stock and send it on out when there was nothing left to eat. Very few would go up and slaughter a lamb for thier family an if they did it was considered wasteful.

We are fighting culture of the faith in medicine and pharma an so far illness that has been caused by modern medicine has only helped tighten it's grip upon us.

cmo

Breaking News....

Looks like the Disney measles outbreak MUST have come from the little rascals at the...Pixar Day Care Center...owned by Disney. They have free or discounted Disney passes & low vaccination rates.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pixar%E2%80%99s-daycare-has-one-of-lowest-vaccination-rates-in-silicon-valley/ar-AA9hs8v?srcref=rss

If you look closely at all the network measles pictures on TV, one can see they are ALL from the “Pixar strain" which is not a good match to the present MMR vaccine.

This should now give the news media more time to track the 130 new cases of Autism each and every day.

Bob Moffitt

Writer Julia Belluz:

“Last year (2014?) was terrible for measles in the United States: there were 644 cases — the highest annual caseload in two decades."

Just curious ..

(though I suspect I wouldn't have to ask the question if the answer contributed to the "scare-mongering hysteria" of this year's 130 or cases)

.. how many of the reported 644 cases of measles died or remain disabled following their diagnosis?

Eileen Nicole Simon

The Amish give birth at home or in birthing centers. This means they wait for placental circulation to cease before clamping the umbilical cord, and they also do not inject hep B or vitamin K at the time of birth.

See: Learning From an Amish Birth, by Emily Kroening and Therese Zink, Family Medicine 2008; 40:91-92. I recommend everyone read this article, which is free online. Download it from http://www.stfm.org/fmhub/fm2008/February/Emily91.pdf

Note on p92, “When the pulse in the cord stopped, Rita directed me to place two yellow plastic clamps on the cord...” Rita was the midwife.

A pulse in the cord is evidence that the fetal valves in the baby’s heart have not yet closed. The pulse ceases when blood flow has been redirected to the lungs.

Since the mid 1980s the obstetric protocol has been to clamp the cord immediately after birth. Note that the lungs take absolute priority over any other organ (including the brain) to initiate respiration at birth. Blood may be drained from the brain to jump-start the lungs. The Apgar score may then be a perfect 10, but damage like that caused by asphyxia at birth will occur in the brain.

Autism has many causes, including the genetic causes found among the Amish. How the brain is affected must be made the focus of research. Again, see my presentation at the IACC in 2008:
http://iacc.hhs.gov/events/2008/slides_eileen_simon_112108.pdf

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