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Midweek Mashup: Ebola Versus E-68

Midweek mashupBy Dan Olmsted

Right now the media is fixated on the first case of Ebola to reach U.S. shores (without the assistance of the CDC, that is). Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC director, says the disease will be stopped in its tracks, and for once I believe him. This is what the CDC does well -- track an outbreak in real time, find contacts, quarantine if necessary, and put an end to it. 

Enterovirus 68, I'm afraid, may be another story. We first started hearing about the bug earlier this year, when a couple of dozen cases of paralysis in children started popping up in California. At that point we weren't hearing about how dangerous the respiratory symptoms were, just that some children ended up with various kinds of paralysis in association with it. Now the primary respiratory illness seems more virulent (a Rhode Island girl died just yesterday), and it's causing wider cases of paralysis (Colorado, Michigan, Boston ... and counting).

Which story is bigger? I vote for the enterovirus.

On the one hand, we've got one case of exotic and terrifying Ebola, a disease that makes your eyes ooze blood and is the proverbial "plane ride away." We keep hearing about how every terrible vaccine-preventable disease that is no longer a threat in the United States -- polio being a classic example -- is just a plane ride away, and that all 300 million of us need multiple injections starting in infancy in case it lands here. (Makes you wonder why we're not still getting yellow fever shots, doesn't it!)

But when a disease does in fact land here, public health surveillance catches it in a heartbeat, even with a goof like the Dallas emergency room sending the Ebola victim home the first time.

What's much more disturbing, on the other hand, is a disease that appears to be endemic - Enterovirus 68 -- that spreads much more easily.

And -- this is key -- the endemic one appears to be acting strangely. Ebola is nasty, but we know its evil ways. We haven't seen an enterovirus causing any appreciable paralysis since -- well, since polio. That bug circulated in the same way, generally caused no major problems, but starting in the late 1800s, inexplicably got into the nervous system of a small percentage of those infected and became something else entirely.

No one ever really got a handle on why that happened -- they just created a vaccine that wiped it out in the United States. Now, having basically learned nothing from that epidemic, we've got another bug whose behavior is similar -- and about which we also know nothing.

“Parents ask, ‘Why? Why my child or why not my child?’” Colorado public health official Larry Wolk said of paralysis from E-68. “And it’s a question we can’t answer because we don’t really know why some of these kids go on to develop this type of serious complication.”

Well, we do have an idea, one that AOA has been investigating for several years, since Mark Blaxill and I observed in 2011 that polio epidemics seemed to arise along with new and highly toxic pesticides -- namely, lead arsenate -- in the late 1800s. Because polio is an enterovirus, which reproduces in the gut, we proposed an interaction between the virus and the pesticide residue from fruits or vegetables. We theorized this let the virus into the nervous system, where it caused the characteristic damage to the anterior horn cells at the top front of the spinal column.

Polio tended to be cyclic -- there'd be an outbreak of a few cases, it would go away (as the virus built up a reservoir in previously uninfected children), then come roaring back. It seemed without rhyme or reason, until you look at the pattern in agricultural areas: among the earliest outbreaks were Boston, where they battled gypsy moths; and, in California, the San Joaquin and Napa valleys. And always during growing season and especially around harvest time (meaning, now).

When we looked into the new California cluster of paralysis earlier this year, the first case we identified was a child whose parents own a vineyard; her mother remembered the child had just eaten raspberries. The doctors, she told us, didn't seem interested because it was clearly not botulism. The doctors weren't interested in talking to us about this idea of a pesticide cofactor, either.

It behooves them to get interested, because something is happening here and they don't know what it is. Is there a new pesticide or other toxic exposure out there that's potentiating this enterovirus, just as (we believe) lead arsenate and later DDT did in the last century? Or is the virus itself spreading more widely, or developing a more virulent strain, in the pesticide-saturated environment of twenty-first century America? Maybe the honeybees and white-nose bats are the canaries in the coal mine of this new health threat.

We may be may be at the front end of a cycle like polio -- a small cluster in agricultural areas last year, followed by a wider circle so far this year, followed by massive breakouts to come. I hope that public health folks will overlook the source of this idea (namely, people like us, whose ideas on autism they don't like) and take a fearless look at the source of the problem. Sometimes you do have to believe six impossible things before breakfast, or at least set aside your sneering disbelief and consider the facts at hand and the lives at stake.

While we're spending billions to stamp out polio in South Asia and Africa, and obsessing over a single Ebola case already safely in quarantine, a polio-like enterovirus is running rampant and, quite possibly, setting up for a long siege. 

This prospect is outside the CDC's wheelhouse because it does not follow the straight lines of germ theory - one microbe, one disease. It's another paradigm altogether -- a possible microbe-toxin interaction, the kind we've written about many times. And it comes uncomfortably close to interactions (MMR and thimerosal, another microbe and metal combination) they have already rejected as impossible. 

I'm afraid they feel much more at home waging war on Ebola.

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Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism.

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Bayareamom

In referencing the battle between the allopaths vs. homeopaths issue, I meant to state "a couple of hundred years ago."

Bayareamom

"I think that this massive fraud on the part of the health megalith relating to vaccines is leading to a loss of confidence in everything it says about anything, which is too bad."


It 's really all a matter of putting the pieces of the puzzle together. To understand that the world we've been conditioned to believe is the reality, is not. When unveiling the layers of deceit, it's crucial to understand the battle between the allopaths vs. the homeopaths, which actually dates to a couple of years ago.

Dr. Tenpenny has done a brilliant job in breaking down the historical facts between the battle between these two factions. Also, to understand this battle further, research the chiropractic industry and its lawsuit against the medical cartels who tried to put them out of business (needless to say, the chiropractors won).

This 'belief' that some still want to maintain in their governmental agencies who profess to only want to help us, still continue to disbelieve the outright evil and deceit which permeates these healthcare entities. So many of you over here have seen this evil perpetuated re: the profound injuries to your own children, but yet, you still want to believe those same entities are truly trying to help in other areas of medical care.

ANY person or agency who would lie to you REPEATEDLY about vaccines, such as the CDC has been found to do, WILL and HAVE lied to you about other such type issues as well. As I've stated in prior comments, it is NOT the nurses and physicians at the lower levels who are perpetuating these lies outright. They've simply been conditioned in the BELIEF that vaccines are the next best thing to bread and butter.

It is those at the TOP who are pulling the strings and are controlling the masses through their consistent denials as to the damage done by Western medicine.

This is all very complex and I understand the reluctance to accept the for lack of a better word...evil...that exists within these Western medical institutions, but it does exist.

If you've listened to the Red Ice Radio interview of Jon, and still have issues as to what Jon has pointed out, I would kindly suggest you review his website for further info. All I can say is the information I have gleaned in my own personal experience(s) has shown me that Jon and a few other very intrepid journalists are spot on as to what they've found in their research.

The CDC is NOT your friend. THEY LIE. REPEATEDLY. And just as they were found to have lied about the H1N1 fiasco, via excellent research journalism by Sharyl Attkisson and another journalist (a Ph.D. who now teaches at the University of Maryland, but I cannot remember his name), I think we will all find this new Ebola crisis will fall into the same category as did the H1N1.

Just my opinion, but time will tell...

Benedetta

So we depend on the WHO to say oh, yeah it is Ebola. We don't know. We don't know if WHO has just a few cases of Ebola, and the rest is arsenic posioning.

IF you are caught in a lie -- it is the duty of the American people to assume the very worse.

As in the climate gate thing at the EPA -- never trust anything coming out of there again, or anything abot climate change and carbon trading.
That has been the policy of the American people in history -- and I do not understand how in the last 10 years -- things like that are ignored. It is like living in some surreal alternate universe -- we went from you don't lie to the public -- to -- lie all the time??????

Benedetta

You all ever sit in the school room reading history books, or listening to the history teacher tell about pre-civil war - that groups of people were buying up slaves and had purchased some land in Western Africa to send them back - to set them free?

It always came up again and again how these former slaves faired and it was not well.

Western Africa was a hot bed of diseases.
The good hearted Americans had to find land in Africa not very populated in order to send these former slaves back THre is always reasons why populations are low in a area. Apparently Lots of water bourne diseases like yellow fever and malaria was in the region.

Benedetta

They are suppose to have those pump sprayers full of lysol and sprays them on the suits before taking them off.

That is easy enough to have - we you have the suits you have the spray.

Then of course it would be great to have them stand in with their suits in UV light as those suits dry off with the lysol. But that requires the lights, and electricity -- of course standing in the sun works probably just as well.
That is the protocol for taking off the suits, if it is a really bad bug.

In hospitals here in America - they put on those paper things, than pull them off and put them in a trash can standing by the door.

Jenny Allan

Cia Parker says:-"I think anyone going into these clinics for any reason should wear a haz-mat suit. I read that most infections in health care workers occur while they're taking the suits off."

Absolutely Cia!! I could write a book about hospital infection control procedures actually spreading infections. In the case of the haz-mat suits, people forget the outsides of the suits can pick up microbial contamination. When they remove the suits, they contaminate their hands by touching these parts. It's not difficult to see how this contamination can then transfer into their mouths or onto open cuts and grazes.

Much the same happens with hospital gloves, compulsory before touching patients. Again, staff think these are 'magigloves' incapable of contamination. I've seen open boxes of gloves lying about in wards, collecting MRSA and God knows what. Many junior staff have not been trained in how to put on these gloves, often contaminating them in the process, or momentarily putting a gloved hand down onto a bacteria contaminated work surface. All this before getting to the patient.

And don't get me going on alcohol gel hand disinfectants. Quite apart from the fact they don't work against C diff spores and a number of other hospital nasties, the dispensers have hand pumps which can not only get contaminated with bugs, but pass them on to those in the queue behind.

cia parker

Bayareamom,
I think that this massive fraud on the part of the health megalith relating to vaccines is leading to a loss of confidence in everything it says about anything, which is too bad. On the one hand they say thousands of kids are getting a summer cold that has had them coughing for weeks, sounds like enterovirus, but then they say only a handful have tested positive (because only a few have ever been tested). On the one hand my daughter's school sent a note last week that said there had been many cases of enterovirus in the school, but I found a flyer from the school nurse saying that she had seen not a single case of Enterovirus in the students. And that was after I left a message saying my daughter had it, and was wondering what the school policy was for students staying home for a long time if they had it. The secretary had already told me that many students had it, so I guess it was lying to prevent panic, which doesn't inspire confidence.

Thousands have died in Africa in the last few months of this disease, I think people should say that if it looks like the disease at a time when it is epidemic, you might as well assume it's the disease. Doctors didn't use to test for measles or mumps, still don't usually for pertussis, flu, etc. , they just assume it is. Í've seen people who have said the journalists and aid workers weren't really killed, that they just made fake heads for the videos. It's probably all predictable, a loss of confidence in authority leads to disbelief in everything, as though you were being conned into believing anything they say. I don't know where it will end. Maybe if they read The Hot Zone they'll believe in the Ebola epidemic.

cia parker

Barbara,
The cameraman says that he was helping to disinfect a chair where he was filming in a clinic with Ebola cases when some fluid splashed him in the face, he thinks that's how he got infected. Nancy says he must have gotten infected before NBC hired him about a week ago. I don't know, he's American, I guess we'll find out if he was filming for another American company or for NBC when he was infected. I think anyone going into these clinics for any reason should wear a haz-mat suit. I read that most infections in health care workers occur while they're taking the suits off, I'm not sure what the answer for that one is.

Bayareamom

..."Unfortunately, this perpetual 'crying wolf', about measles, whooping cough, polio and the rest, has made the public cynical, particularly since the latest (in a long line) of Ebola outbreaks in Africa, 'miraculously' happens to coincide with the development of a new Ebola vaccine and other new Ebola treatments in the US. These are stated to have 'cured' at least three persons, who contracted the virus whilst working with Ebola victims in African hospitals and clinics. Two infected persons were flown from Africa to a US isolation facility for treatment. At the time, no one in the CDC seemed to be the least bit bothered about the possibility of these persons infecting their flight and medical attendants..."


I could write a rebuttal to Godfrey's reply to my comment, but no need, given the excellent remarks, above.

Thought I would pass along a link to an EXCELLENT radio interview of Jon Rappoport on Red Ice Radio. It's around two hours, so a bit lengthy, but he goes into in-depth analysis of the CDC so-called whistleblower issue and then the Ebola issue.

I would urge everyone to give a listen and a shout out about this interview. Jon does an excellent job...

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/09/RIR-140926.php

Jenny Allan

Godfrey Wyl says:- "I find it amazing that an "Ebola Is Real" campaign would be needed in this country."

Godfrey, we all know Ebola is real. As Benedetta says this disease has been around for decades in Africa, and is very much feared by both Africans and visitors to the affected countries. What gets up our noses is the way government health departments, not just in the US, but in most western countries, inflate the statistics and spread doom and gloom messages, in order to scare people into getting vaccinations.

Unfortunately, this perpetual 'crying wolf', about measles, whooping cough, polio and the rest, has made the public cynical, particularly since the latest (in a long line) of Ebola outbreaks in Africa, 'miraculously' happens to coincide with the development of a new Ebola vaccine and other new Ebola treatments in the US. These are stated to have 'cured' at least three persons, who contracted the virus whilst working with Ebola victims in African hospitals and clinics. Two infected persons were flown from Africa to a US isolation facility for treatment. At the time, no one in the CDC seemed to be the least bit bothered about the possibility of these persons infecting their flight and medical attendants.

As I understand it ONE Ebola sufferer returning from Africa, has been 'on the loose' in the US, thanks to the most appalling incompetence of those medical staff whom he went to with his initial symptoms. At the last count a US medical surveillance team were closely monitoring around 80 contacts, but so far none of these persons has shown any symptoms of Ebola. I'm inclined to agree with Dan Olmstead, when he states:-

" This is what the CDC does well -- track an outbreak in real time, find contacts, quarantine if necessary, and put an end to it."

I am certainly not anti-vaccine, and if an effective Ebola vaccine is developed, this could only be a good thing for those African countries where the disease is endemic, and for those persons contemplating a visit.

Vaccinating anyone and everyone in the US is both unnecessary and 'over the top', but you can't blame US citizens for making assumptions, particularly when vast $profits could be on the table for Ebola vaccine manufacturers.

Barry

I find it amazing that an "Ebola Is Real" campaign would be needed in this country.

*******

Really?? Why, because our Main Stream media is sooo trustworthy???

Wake up Godfry

Benedetta

Thompson two weeks ago and now the CDC is working hard to contain Ebola -- news is full of it . Of course I have entertained the idea that there are actually people trying to reduce the population so bears can roam the woods again. I guess it was either this - talk about Ebola none stop - or kill Dr Thompson.
These are really == realy --- evil people.

Benedetta

Ebola has been around since the 70s. Nothing -- to much was said - well there was a pretty bad epidemic back in the late 80s and the African people became very upset with the western doctors, - threw them out and did what they needed to do to stop it.

So now that William Thompson was escorted off the premises two weeks later -- a constant media blitz about Ebola. Ohhhh, i am so scared -- Not.

Godfrey Wyl

@Bayareamom:

"A: A person has heard all about how dangerous Ebola is. He has a fear of some unknown invisible tiny killer, a virus. He has heard about 'bad diseases' coming from Africa. Now, someone from the CDC stands up and talks about the threat of Ebola and says a patient with Ebola is in a Dallas hospital, and is sick. What's the effect? Utter acceptance of the idea that the hospital patient has Ebola. 'It's Ebola. It couldn't be anything else.'

"Q: But it could be something else?

"A: Of course."

I feel obligated to observe that if one does not "believe in" ELISA, PCR, etc., then one cannot believe in checking antibody titers in lieu of vaccination or Sin Hang Lee's detection of HPV L1 DNA fragments in Gardasil. If one does not believe in an accelerating piling up of thousands of dead bodies in Africa, then one is operating at the level of the residents of West Point who attacked (and looted) the ebola clinic.

I find it amazing that an "Ebola Is Real" campaign would be needed in this country.

Godfrey Wyl

@BoB:

"Just curious .. does anyone know if Enterovirus 68 is more common among children in Latin American countries?"

The known strains are from North America, Japan, Europe, and Africa.

Godfrey Wyl

@Flahute:

"Re ebola patents & invalidation by court case - maybe, but there's much verbiage in the patent about vaccines & ebv detection. It looks pretty solid to me but am not a lawyer."

There is, but again, neither virus addressed by the patent is actually EBOV, and the SCOTUS ruling from last year firmly establishes that products of nature are not subject to patent protection in the U.S.

What would survive of that patent is if someone developed a vaccine based on their attenuated strain (or perhaps attenuation technique; reading patents gives me a headache, so I have not revisited it) or some of the components that they isolated.

Bayareamom

What I find most interesting in my prior post re: Jon's article, is the following:

Q: People believe in the power of what they’re told.

A: Yes. It’s interesting to see people who otherwise call the CDC a fraud suddenly accept the CDC’s edict about Ebola. There is no rational substance to that acceptance.


Bayareamom

Interesting new article re: Ebola from Jon Rappoport:

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/ebolagate-47-questions-and-answers/

SNIPS:

"A: A person has heard all about how dangerous Ebola is. He has a fear of some unknown invisible tiny killer, a virus. He has heard about “bad diseases” coming from Africa. Now, someone from the CDC stands up and talks about the threat of Ebola and says a patient with Ebola is in a Dallas hospital, and is sick. What’s the effect? Utter acceptance of the idea that the hospital patient has Ebola. “It’s Ebola. It couldn’t be anything else.”

Q: But it could be something else?

A: Of course.

Q: People don’t want to accept that, though. They want to believe in the doctors and the CDC and the tests that are run on people to decide if they have Ebola.

A: That belief isn’t based on anything real.

Q: People believe in the power of what they’re told.

A: Yes. It’s interesting to see people who otherwise call the CDC a fraud suddenly accept the CDC’s edict about Ebola. There is no rational substance to that acceptance.

Q: So to be clear, you’re saying there might not be an Ebola epidemic at all.

A: What do you need to determine whether people have Ebola? Accurate diagnostic tests. Accurate tests aren’t being done. So this is an unproven epidemic. And making the assertion of an epidemic is a hoax.

Q: Like the Swine Flu.

A: Exactly. As I said, in the summer of 2009, the CDC stopped counting cases of Swine Flu and yet maintained there was an epidemic. The samples of blood from patients they sent to labs showed, in the overwhelmingly number of cases, that there was no Swine Flu virus present..."

Jenny

Does anyone know what the test is for enterovirus 68? How long does it take and are doctors required to test for it if a kid is coughing a lot?
Similar to how prevnar left vacuums for more pathogenic pneumonia strains to move into lungs, is it possible that the already-proven-to-fail-in-Australia hypothesis to give booster shots to older kids to "cocoon" babies from pertussis has paved the way for enterovirus-68, if respitory issues are a big part of the problem?
How would a doctor determine a problem is enterovirus 68 rather than pertussis? Would he only assume that because that is what the CDC is emphasizing? The CDC would certainly hate to deal with a another trivalent vaccine problem, after the problems its been having with MMR research integrity regarding safety and effectiveness, especially if the shot might create worse danger than the original illness it was meant to prevent.

Bayareamom

@Cia Parker,

Yes! It IS nice to communicate with kindred spirits! And you know, since that last comment of mine re: our son's illness this summer, I've remembered that it actually took him the better part of a month to FULLY recover. It was those first two weeks that were SO hard for him. He literally couldn't get any sleep at night...awful.

But yet, I'm grateful that his immune system seems to be fairly robust and he was able to get through it with nothing more than rest, vitamins D and C and plenty of liquids.

I'm amazed that neither my husband nor myself came down with it. I have very mild, but chronic asthma (both my parents were heavy smokers in their day). I had a very mild coughing spell during some of the time Ryan was ill, but absolutely nothing like what Ryan was dealing with.

I'm glad your daughter recovered and is well now! It's not fun watching your loved ones suffer like that, but in the end, they're so much better off for having gone through it.

Danchi

cia parker

I'm pleased to hear your daughter is recovering. And you are correct, some people are just per-disposed to react to vaccines. My grandchildren had bad reactions and so they don't take them. Personally, I react to just about every antibiotic and pain medication I've been given. My Dr. told me years ago when she sees my name on the schedule she hopes I'm not ill and require any medication. Extended family members have problems with drugs of all kinds and we do have several autistic children in the family. I think we're probably one of those groups that can be labeled chemically sensitive. I remember as a child being sick and home from school for two weeks after the smallpox vaccine. My arm swelled and was difficult to move for several days. That's the last vaccine I ever received. My mother wouldn't allow it any more.

I think the CDC is afraid to really take a look at what enterovirus 68 really is because they won't like what they find. That could be something that they can't create a vaccine for like scarlet fever or strep throat. Maybe it's polio and they can't say that because according to all their literature over the decades-polio has been eradicated. The first thing the CDC should be looking at is: is this a virus that is occurring in vaccinated children. That could give them a clue to an effective treatment because if this is the case, they know that vaccinated children have weaker immune systems and that supporting and rebuilding it would be the first objective of treatment. I've read multiple articles on patients who were critical from pneumonia that were given IV Vit C and made remarkable turn arounds. Colloidal Silver would be another treatment. There are many holistic products to address this virus but the CDC, not wanting to give the alternative treatments their propers will allow a child to suffer rather than follow the oath that they took when they became Drs.

Flahute

Re ebola patents & invalidation by court case - maybe, but there's much verbiage in the patent about vaccines & ebv detection. It looks pretty solid to me but am not a lawyer.

Re EV-68- also curious that there's been an emerald ash borer problem in the mid Plains (Co, KS, MO). Heavy duty additional pesticide use all summer & spring (emamectin, avermectin, imidacloprid, dinetofuran, etc) to combat.

barbara

Nancy Snyderman's cameraman? This must be more contagious than they're admitting.

Barry

Ebola is just another media stunt, designed to drive the next mass public vaccination.

I mean come on, it's one thing for the perpetrators to be too lazy to even make up a new story line. But what's even worse IMO, is a public lazy enough to let them get away with it.

Do people really believe that yet another virus is breaking out in a yet another far away country? A virus which, like so many before it, can so easily make it to North America by plane??

So what's the next media headline... that some north American Company just happens to have been developing a vaccine for just such a "crisis"?? Which also just happens to be weeks away from it's first human trials??

Actually, the Ebola fraud is moving even faster that I expected. Because that news headline is actually a month old now

http://www.pharmacytimes.com/news/Experimental-Ebola-Vaccine-Ready-to-Begin-Human-Trials

cia parker

No-Vac,
At this time they are saying that people only have the Ebola virus in their body fluids to transmit after they are feeling and acting very sick. This man wasn't contagious at the time he went through Brussels and Washington.

cia parker

My Son,
The man with Ebola did throw up outside the ambulance he was about to be put on. I don't think his throwing up anywhere would have infected a large number of people, but only maybe the person who cleaned it up. Each Ebola patient only infects less than two other people. Ebola in the US would be quickly contained, it's not airborne, but is sort of like AIDS or hep-B, being spread through infected body fluids in an obviously sick person making contact with someone else's mucus membranes (including eyes, nose, and mouth). In Liberia there are dead bodies in the streets, people are still washing the body cavities of dead family members without adequate protection, and many people are still eating bush meat (which is how each outbreak starts). If any Americans get Ebola in the next couple of weeks, that will be the wake-up call to quarantine people leaving these countries for several weeks.

@My son

No I'm afraid that it seems they only care about an excuse for a new vaccine. I have heard its actually only very short term protection anyhow. They have so blown their credibility in terms of vaccines and health that we will not know what to think.

cia parker

Bob,
I've read speculation that it was the Latin American children left here this summer that introduced enterovirus 68: Latin American children do have more entero and every other kind of respiratory virus, but I think it's a good thing. Our hothouse American children have weak or deranged immune systems: exposure to common, relatively mild pathogens is a good thing to develop permanent immunity to them and a healthier, more competent immune system for having gone through the battle it was designed to wage.

cia parker

Bayareamom,
It's nice to communicate with someone else whose child had it! And especially nice that it's a kindred spirit! (Please don't take it wrong, I'm not happy your son was so miserable for so long!) I'm sure your son had it, it sounds just like everyone else. That first Wednesday night after Cecily came home with a slightly runny nose which escalated fast, I gave her Delsym when she just kept coughing unrelentingly, I was afraid she wouldn't be able to sleep at all. I told her sternly that I never gave cough syrup in the day, as it was important to let her body cough the virus out to help her defeat it and recover. But I was shocked to see (hear) that it did no good, she just kept coughing just as hard on and on until I finally fell asleep upstairs. I kept her home on Thursday and Friday, and for several nights she asked for Delsym, I gave it to her, and again and again it did no good. I gave her an herbal cough remedy, looking at the ingredients to see if any might interact with the DM in the Delsym, and several homeopathic combination formulas that said for cough and cold. And one of the homeopathic formulas finally did the trick and stopped the coughing. When I read about Enterovirus 68 on the Internet a week and a half later, I called the school for guidance, but it hadn't yet come up with a policy. Even now that it said last week to keep kids home if they were coughing unrelentingly, I'll bet you they don't really mean it, and would be disapproving if anyone really kept their child at home for a month because of the cough.

Back in 1950, families in South Carolina that heeded a radio doctor's advice to avoid consuming sugar, had only a fraction of the polio cases that surrounding counties did, like 1%. It may be the same this go round.

kapoore

I heard that the kids who were hospitalized with the Entero68 have asthma. I also heard that so far they are vaccinated. The vaccinated part comes up in the newscast to reassure parents, I guess, that this couldn't be polio related because all the kids are up to date on their polio, flu, and etc. vaccines. In other words, the vaccine issue comes up in the process of elimination. But those of us who are not reassured by vaccines have to wonder if the vaccines might be part of the problem. Some "unofficial" vaccine versus vaccine studies seem to indicate asthma is more common in the vaccinated and so perhaps if these kids had not been vaccinated, they might not have asthma and ended up in the hospital with breathing issues when sick with this virus--that normally doesn't make people THAT sick. On an anecdotal note I know several families that live in one of those towns that are in the "fields" of pesticides. One of them is a chiropractor who has not vaccinated his three children and they are robustly healthy. Another is a parent who did vaccinated and the pesticides gave her son encephalitis and the doctor recommended she leave and they did and he was fine. Another is a little boy who lives in the "fields" and frankly I worry about that little guy--mom sick entire pregnancy, did not nurse, vaccinated, very sick child from the get go. So... what is the story here? Is it the pesticides or is it the pesticides plus the vaccine schedule or is it just the vaccines that make it hard to detox. I am confident that if a parent doesn't vaccinate then they can make a lot more health mistakes with their child but if they do vaccinate then they will have to be very strict with diet, and poison exposures. But who knows... we may never know. Causality is so skewed in favor of big money and away from kids and health it's a crime

Linda1

Regarding the role that pesticides play in these diseases...the thought occurred today that the corporations are so powerful now that if DDT were in use today and the studies showed what they showed back when it was banned decades ago, it wouldn't be banned today. DDT would still be in use even though the devastating effects are known, just like Round-up and similar products are still in ever increasing use despite a mountain of evidence of harm.

no-vac

VAERS data show that flu vaccines (among all other contemporary vaccines) were responsible for most cases of paralysis in the US. This is extremely toxic vaccine. Hence my suspicion that it is the flu vaccine, which caused paralysis of US children. There might be some very nasty agents/viruses added to this vaccine that cause respiratory disease. In no other country people give poisonous flu vaccine to the children (at least so massively), hence this problem is solely American. Most current diseases are medicine/vaccines made.

Godfrey Wyl

In addition to my previous comment, it also turns out that much of that patent would be invalidated by the 2013 decision in Association for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics.

My Son Is Recovering Only Because Other Moms (and Dr. Wakefield)  Told the Truth

Here is one thing that really blows my mind:

If we really cared about "the herd" we would REQUIRE that all flights between infected countries and America were halted until it is eradicated.

But that would be inconvenient, and cost airlines and businesses money I suppose. And that small inconvenience and loss of money is too much to pay.

But WE are supposed to vaccinate our susceptible chidden for the sake of herd immunity, a practice that causes 1 in 20 families tragic loss of their family's destiny, hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs, and heck of a lot of "inconvenience" living the alternate reality our child now lives.

The other thing that really scares me about this: remember the rumors that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen to make sure we 'cared'? Is it at all possible that this could be allowed to happen to make sure we 'care'.

Had this man vomited on a bus, or in a subway--or on the plane--or even at the emergency room, how many people would already be infected? I heard on CNN today that the CDC did not even tell his family what to do with his sheets, how to handle things. No one went to his family members he had been staying with to help them figure out what to do until quite later. His BROTHER called the CDC from NC and alerted them--apparently the hospital took its time doing this.

I sometimes wish I were like the rest of the world --still in denial --- with blind trust in the CDC on this, or any of these issues. But the price of that denial would have been that my son would not be doing so well (since we stopped his shots at 12 months). Thanks for a great article Dan. As always. The whole staff rocks!

Godfrey Wyl
"This plot gets even more interesting when you realize that a patent on Ebola was filed in 2009 by the United States government.... patents/US20120251502"

This patent relates to BDBV ("EboBol") and Taï Forest virus ("EboC"), which are not EBOV. Nor is it a patent on the viruses themselves, but a couple of isolates and partially reconstructed sequences.

Bayareamom

..."So I'd say the thing to do is: 1) refuse all vaccines, 2) avoid all pesticides and insecticides (DDT played a big role in polio homes), 3) treat cases of enterovirus with large doses of vitamin C. If your child gets the virus, keep them sheltered and quiet at home, and they will in most cases be the better for having achieved natural immunity to the virus."

Words to live by.

And come to think of it, our son (now 21), had a horrible cough/viral bug this summer. It took him just about a two week period to get over it completely. And yes, he was completely miserable during the beginning stages, mostly because the coughing kept him up at night. We made sure he took plenty of vitamin C, drank lots of fluids and had completely bed rest whenever possible. His immune system kicked into hard drive and within a week or son, we could tell his coughing spells were noticeably lessened.

...we also quit vaccinating our son when he was six months of age.

BoB Moffitt

Just curious .. does anyone know if Enterovirus 68 is more common among children in Latin American countries?

cia parker

Danchi,
I don't think it's a question of a strong immune system being able to chelate out mercury, etc., from vaccines. There is a genetic component: if you have certain genes, you are predisposed to reacting to vaccines and to storing hte metals rather than excreting them (they may be two separate processes). There is reason to believe that people with these genes which cause vaccine reaction originally had the healthiest immune system, geared to wipe out invaders as soon as they appeared, which didn't work out that well when the invasion was a vaccine.
My daughter hasn't had any vaccine in ten years, is very healthy, and had not even had a cold for three years when she caught the enterovirus the first week of school: she cam home with a runny nose on Wednesday the second week, and by evening had a really bad cough and I kept her home the next day. She coughed for over a month. I think this enterovirus is just a natural mutation of a common virus, and we'll have to wait and see if it becomes a serious problem.

Bayareamom

..."And if quarantining isn't "effective enough" that would sure be good for the vaccine industry, wouldn't it? All potentially from a potentially- later-to-be-disproved story about casual contact. Yes, its a nasty nasty illness, but again, like Enterovirus 68, WHY is it here NOW? What were the human-controllable factors that contributed to the outbreak and are contributing to the spread? What government bureaucracies in the U.S. and in Africa decided that the development of hygienic infrastructure such as toilet plumbing, clean water, and non-chemicalized food were not worth the investment? What will this Ebola outbreak end up costing? You can be sure that it will cost more than toilets, sewers, and vitamins. What non-profit organizations thought vaccines could outperform basic necessities such as nutrients? Do their citizens agree with those decisions? Those citizens are reaping the consequences of those decisions, now, and will be global with the unwitting cooperation of an unquestioning media and a swayable public."


..."As far as my experience takes me, I will never put any trust, ever, in anything CDC does or says. Nor, will I trust the mainstream media, ever, on medical topics, as they are but mimeograph machines for CDC and NIH - all co-champions at fear mongering."


Jenny asks all the $64,000.00 questions; David's comments I also completely concur with.

Hard to tell which way the wind blows with all of this, but this one thing is poignantly clear to me: This is MASSIVE fear mongering, simply ratcheted up a bit since the last H1N1 fiasco. Time will tell where all this will end up, but for now, I refuse to play into the fear mongering, whether it's Ebola or something else.

A lovely person in my life has consistently told me the following: When there is chaos all around, STAND STILL.

For now, that's what I'm going to do.

cia parker

Birgit,
I just read that Ebola can be transmitted in the semen for up to three months after the man contracted Ebola. So time-limited, but for that time it could be sexually transmitted.

Godfrey Wyl
"The optimistic thing about ebola is that the Liberian country doctor (but not the NIH, CDC, WHO, FDA parasites) treated 15 ebola infected people with HIV drug lamivudine, after 3-5 days 13 of them recovered."

This story, which I believe remains hearsay from a small clinic, does not make biological sense. Lamivudine is a reverse transcriptase inhibitor. The ebola virus does not code for reverse transcriptase, as there is no DNA intermediate in its life cycle.

Birgit Calhoun

I see parallels to another illness that took a long time to be recognized to be as threatening as it is today: AIDS. Ebola may not be as intractable, but the "bodily fluids" part rings very similar. How about sexual transmission? I don't hear much about that.

As to E 68, I have read your previous posts on polio, and I tend to agree with you take regarding the transmission. How about Ebola and vaccine or other drug trials in that African neck of the woods. Could there be a connection?

cia parker

I just looked it up. The Rhode Island girl who died tested positive for enterovirus 68 (results not in before her death Sept 22), but is said to have died of an antibiotic-resistant staph infection which caused sepsis, or blood poisoning. Again, allopathic medicine does not use high-dose intravenous vitamin C treatment, but it would save a lot of lives if it did.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101117184457.htm

This vitamin C therapy is amazingly effective at curing staph infections, sepsis, and polio, as well as things like colds (and nearly everything else). People MUST start demanding its use when they or a family member are hospitalized.

cia parker

I read about the children exposed to Ebola by the man who came down with it in Dallas, (what a fiasco, he went to the hospital on Thursday, told the nurse he had come from the Ebola capital Liberia, had carried a woman with Ebola into her home, where she died, but was sent home with some antibiotics two days before he broke out with dramatic symptoms of Ebola), but wondered what they meant by exposure. The disease isn't airborne, so exposure would have to mean touching infected body fluids of a patient with active symptoms. They say at this time that it isn't transmissible until the dramatic symptoms appear. I would imagine that the exposure of the children wasn't really exposure, but drama to sell the news. We'll see. We've got three weeks to see if any Americans get Ebola from this man. It's funny, in a way. We're seeing the construction of hype in progress. Shot of Prevention had an article up yesterday about how there's no reason for Americans to worry about an Ebola epidemic starting here, and I agree with what it said. But as soon as they have a vaccine available, we will start reading about what a horrifying danger the disease is to us here. A shill yesterday said that he bet that the flaky anti-vaxxers were going to hold out against getting the Ebola shot when it came out, and I said obviously most of us would: the disease poses little danger to us here: we do not eat infected monkeys, do not wash the body cavities of the infected dead before burial, and would in most cases avoid touching the infected body fluids of people suddently throwing up and having diarrhea.

We'll have to wait and see on both counts, but I don't think the enterovirus 68 is a big problem either. Polio is an enterovirus, so it's unfortunately logical that they have similar effects. My daughter had it last month, and had a horrible, painful cough for over a month, but is well now. I don't know how long it takes before paralytic symptoms appear if they're going to. Her school (in Columbia, Mo., in the heart of enterovirus land) belatedly sent out a notice last week that the virus had been sweeping through that and every school in the district, and said to keep kids home if they had a continuous cough.

Did the girl in Rhode Island who died have asthma? I'll look it up in a few minutes. Again, it sounds a lot like polio, which causes no symptoms in 90% of those who catch it, flu-like symptoms in over 9%, and paralytic symptoms in less than one percent, usually temporary but sometimes permanent. I'm sure they'll be ocming out with an enterovirus vaccine soon, and I'm glad that my daughter had the opportunity to catch it and overcome it naturally, so she now has permanent immunity to that particular virus. People over twenty aren't getting it, having gotten immunity at least subclinically from exposure to that or similar viruses growing up. I didn't get it in the whole month my daughter was coughing and leaving Kleenexes on the floor everywhere.

People should know that the virus is much more dangerous for those who have asthma, which is nearly always caused by the pertussis vaccine. Since it's a pretty much useless, already dangerous vaccine anyway, this is another reason to refuse the vaccine and keep young newborns sheltered at home, to protect them from pertussis at the time and asthma later. And they should know that polio sixty years ago was much more common in those who had gotten the DPT vaccine in the previous six weeks, so much so that the DPT vaccine's use was suspended during polio outbreaks. It may well be the same with enterovirus 68: having been recently vaccinated, probably for anything (they didn't have anything else then but the smallpox vaccine), may greatly increase the chance of getting a severe or even fatal case of enterovirus. For most children it will only be like a bad summer cold. Come to think of it, that's another similarity with polio, which used to have large outbreaks in the summer, when parents kept their children away from the public swimming pools. And pesticides, as Dan and Mark have shown, are a huge contributing factor in causing severe cases of polio.

So I'd say the thing to do is: 1) refuse all vaccines, 2) avoid all pesticides and insecticides (DDT played a big role in polio homes), 3) treat cases of enterovirus with large doses of vitamin C. If your child gets the virus, keep them sheltered and quiet at home, and they will in most cases be the better for having achieved natural immunity to the virus.

Taximom5

Apparently, they've been planning for the whole Ebola thing since BEFORE the h1n1 "pandemic-that-wasn't."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ebola-and-the-rapid-vaccine-response-the-u-s-government-patented-ebola-in-2009-now-owns-all-victims-blood/5404685

"Does the United States government own the patent on Ebola?

This plot gets even more interesting when you realize that a patent on Ebola was filed in 2009 by the United States government.

See:

http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502

Assignment April 25, 2011

Owner name: THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Free format text: ASSIGNMENT OF ASSIGNORS INTEREST;ASSIGNORS:TOWNER, JONATHAN S.;NICHOL, STUART T.;COMER, JAMES A.;AND OTHERS;SIGNING DATES FROM 20110415 TO 20110425;REEL/FRAME:026177/0586

See also

http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1

See also

CA2741523A1, EP2350270A2, EP2350270A4, US20120251502, WO2010048615A3,

Astonishingly, the patent request filed by the U.S. government pertains to all variants of Ebola which share 70% or more of the protein sequences described in the patent: “[CLAIMS] …a nucleotide sequence of at least 70%-99% identity to the SEQ ID…”

Furthermore, the patent request also seeks ownership over any and all Ebola viruses which are “weakened” or “killed,” meaning the United States government is literally claiming ownership over all Ebola vaccines.

What this means, of course, is that the U.S. government could demand royalties on all Ebola vaccines.

Even more Orwellian is the fact that the U.S. government could use this patent to halt all other research for treatments or cures for Ebola.

Patent monopoly would give the U.S. government legal right to block all non-vaccine Ebola treatments, cures or research."

david m burd

It's quite plausible the scores of millions of school children at the beginning of the school year, having been systematically scared to be injected with flu shots, and mere millions others being "bought up to date" with (unnecessary) vaccines not completely documented on their health records (talk about a totalitarian U.S. health system), would indeed yield numbers of vaccine-poisoned cases that mimic so-called polio symptoms (transient muscle flacidity).

So, despite many news accounts saying only a small percentage of these sick kids actually test "positive for entero-68, this same news media instantly forgets this critical detail and yells "fire!" Similar to the 2009 Swine/H1N1 fabricated hysteria, with additional flu vaccines further poisoning uncountable victims - but all blamed on a mild flu virus.

As to as single child death associated with entero-68 (with a few more deaths now being conjectured), I have consistently made the point our insane medical protocols now include cancer-type antiviral drugs to be employed for hospitalized kids with respiratory symptoms - with these exact same drugs known destroy such as red blood cells, etc., and to cause death to health and unhealthy alike.

And, as Dan has made his point, unknowable additional toxic intakes and exposures via our chemical-agricuture are constantly upping our sensitivity and pushing unknown millions over the edge, on top of the vaccine-toxins overload, to be more vulnerable to endemic viruses.

As far as my experience takes me, I will never put any trust, ever, in anything CDC does or says. Nor, will I trust the mainstream media, ever, on medical topics, as they are but mimeograph machines for CDC and NIH - all co-champions at fear mongering.

Interesting

The cdc holds a patent on the Euboea vaccine. They deliberately brought the virus here to make money. After all, there is no money to be made in 3rd world countries where it is actually a problem.

Will be on the cdc recommended schedule in no time at all.

We will become the 3rd world country soon enough as we maime all our worker bee force. If there is no one actually paying taxes, there will be no more money for the government to use to buy these ridiculous vaccines

Danchi

Excellent common sense article. Unlike the fear mongering ones I've read over the last few days. I've read many articles and viewed CD's by Suzanne Humphries and one of the things she pointed out is Polio is/was a cyclic illness that hit during harvest time. That was prior to the vaccine. Now, harvest time includes a new element-vaccinations for school. The campaign began in my state in late July to vaccinate for school. Even without being prompted by various states many parents use the summer as an opportunity to catch up on well children visit which normally includes catching up on shots. Some articles have stated that the outbreaks of enterovirus 68 in occurring mostly among the vaccinated children but it's difficult to get any specific information on this and if it is the CDC will not allow that information to be publicized.

Harvest time means many farmers markets are full of freshly picked fruit & produce that may contribute to this. Normally, a person with a strong healthy immune system would be able to chelate metals to some degree out of their body but if their gut is compromised by vaccines, especially neomycin that has direct impact on gut flora, a perfect storm has been created. My concern is children being harmed because their bodies are unable to function in the way they were created to do and the CDC not disclosing any vital information to the public because it may compromise their vaccine program in the US and abroad. We're read what happened when the polio vaccine went south and more people contracted the illness unnecessarily with many now suffering from post polio syndrome will enterovirus 68 be a repeat.

Jenny

Vicky - I am not disagreeing with what you say, however, I take with a grain of salt anything I hear the news report. How much of the story is actually true? Who are we taking on their word, here? If it's so dangerous AND they actually want to control it, why are they letting people fly OUT of those affected countries? I think main stream media only reports what those in power want to be reported in this day and age. I am not even dissing the reporters themselves, they are just reading off a sheet. A "casual contact" story would just make things ripe for mass vaccination, wouldn't it? I think it's fear mongering, no different than "the flu will kill everyone so everyone must get a shot" story. But we now know the facts on that one. Weapons of mass destruction? We know the facts on that one now, too. Put any old idea out there and the masses will take care of spreading disinformation without even knowing its disinformation. Ebola? Years from now we might find out it was a vaccine looking for a problem with ethical problems in testing it in healthy humans. Maybe they'll allow it to foster enough to test homeland security passanger tracking and quarantine methods. And if quarantining isn't "effective enough" that would sure be good for the vaccine industry, wouldn't it? All potentially from a potentially- later-to-be-disproved story about casual contact.
Yes, its a nasty nasty illness, but again, like Enterovirus 68, WHY is it here NOW? What were the human-controllable factors that contributed to the outbreak and are contributing to the spread? What government bureaucracies in the U.S. and in Africa decided that the development of hygienic infrastructure such as toilet plumbing, clean water, and non-chemicalized food were not worth the investment? What will this Ebola outbreak end up costing? You can be sure that it will cost more than toilets, sewers, and vitamins. What non-profit organizations thought vaccines could outperform basic necessities such as nutrients? Do their citizens agree with those decisions? Those citizens are reaping the consequences of those decisions, now, and will be global with the unwitting cooperation of an unquestioning media and a swayable public.

no-vac

The optimistic thing about ebola is that the Liberian country doctor (but not the NIH, CDC, WHO, FDA parasites) treated 15 ebola infected people with HIV drug lamivudine, after 3-5 days 13 of them recovered. So there is already an effective drug for this epidemic, but of course the US and global medical establishment does not want people to know it. They are "working" on a new drug and new vaccines, just to rob the world again like during nonexistent swine flu pandemic. Independent doctors and patients should take health issues in their own hands and should not trust the health officials. They all lie or are just gigantic idiots.

Vicki Hill

I would agree, good article re: the enterovirus, but I would disagree with your take on the Ebola case. I live in the Dallas area, so we may be hearing more on local news than you have heard. That one Ebola victim for sure exposed 18 more local people, including 5 children. Those 5 children attended 4 public schools as late as Tuesday. The 18 are being watched carefully; the local health examiner does expect that 1 or more of those exposed will also come down with Ebola.

Perhaps more frightening is how this man caught Ebola. He helped take a victim to a hospital in Monrovia 4 days before he got on that airplane. He rode in the front seat on the way to the hospital (victim was in back seat), then he supported her back as they carried her into her home after the hospital said they had no place for her. So that suggests spread by somewhat more casual contact than most experts are claiming.

no-vac

By the way, the ebola infected Liberian was allowed to travel freely through Brussels and Washington DC airports, so ebola epidemic may soon hit the whole USA.

Vacless

Good Article. I don't know that I have the same view of Ebola as you Dan. Here is a little light reading which suggests that the CDC will as you say control Ebola but only because they know exactly what it is they are dealing with....its theirs.

What worries me most is that the Governments could invoke martial law and employ forced vaccination on us all. Sorry I am being too dramatic ?

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/09/11/largest-liberian-newspaper-us-government-manufactured-ebola-aids-virus/

http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/ebola-aids-manufactured-western-pharmaceuticals-us-dod

http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en


Enterovirus 68 is a whole other ball game ......still very unclear whats going on with that.

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