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By Cathy Jameson (reprinted from 10/11, Cathy has the day off.)

Good grief, my kids can lay it on thick.  I’ve got doom and gloom peering out from their bloodshot eyeballs.  Why you ask?  Well, we were recently exposed to some kids who had received the Flumist vaccine.  Hours and hours and hours of contact, play time, meal time and chit chat occurred before I found out those children opted to have the live flu virus jammed up their nostrils earlier in the day.  You might have heard the primal scream I let out when I returned to the quiet of my home after discovering this bit of news.  I’m usually the eternal optimist.  Not so much that day. I was cursing like a sailor instead.

I have five kids, one vaccine injured son and another boy with some immune system issues.  I have three healthy daughters who most of the time have nary a sniffle.  After the Flumist discovery, I declared a fortnight of no contact with those children I promise I won’t call potential mini virus spreaders.  I hoped the two week time buffer would give me a chance to keep my kids free from exposure from the shedding a live-virus vaccine does once it enters the body.  But, it was too late.  Like a firing squad, one child at a time came down with fevers, coughs, the chills, achy joints and rotten attitudes.  Antsy yet inconsolable greeted me for too many days in a row.  Of course I blamed my kids’ sickness on the recent source we’d been exposed to—their playmates.

Before my kids got really sick, they retaliated to a two-week-free-from-the-Flumist-friends decree I made.  “Why can’t we play with them?  We promise not to get too close.”  They begged.  They bribed.  “We’ll be extra nice and help you more if we can go play, okay?”  I repeated the decree with a brief explanation as to why it was important to give us time and space away from them—we don’t want Ronan to get sick.  If he catches the flu (or the “flu-like” symptoms lots of people encounter after receiving the flu shot) from these friends, it can really make him very sick.  They understood that part, but there were still terribly ticked that I took two friends away so quickly.  Oh, the looks I got. Ouch, that one from my oldest seared through my heart!  She’d just befriended one of the girls.  They’d planned more hours and hours of fun.  “Please, oh, please, oh, please, achhhhoo, can I go over to see her again?  I’ll be quick.  Please?”  I said no.  I put my foot down and said no again with her pathetic plea, “Awww, Mom.  Please?  Just for a few minutes?”  My other foot went down, NO.  You don’t understand, and I’m sorry you think I’m the bad guy, but no.  Wait a few weeks and then you can play.  “WEEKS?!?!”  Yes, I said, at least two weeks for their flu virus to do what it’s “supposed” to do and then you can play again. 

Two weeks.  A fortnight of frowny faces.  The kids scowled in between napping off their aches, fevers and coughing all over the place.  Oh, well.  Mean Old Mom strikes again.  It’s a title I’ve earned and one I plan on keeping close by. 

Of course, it could have been anywhere that my kids picked up these menacing germs.  But, I took the opportunity to tell my children a little bit more about vaccines.  Yes, they are supposedly around to keep people healthy.  Yes, vaccines have been around for a long time.  Yes, some vaccines quite possibly did in fact save lives at one time.  But, when people get live virus vaccinations but then don’t quarantine themselves while the live virus sheds, other people are at risk.  My boys are perfect examples of being at risk. When they get sick, their problems can lead to an emergency room run to get medical attention.  I further explained about the live virus and its role in vaccines--how it sheds and how other people can be exposed to that shedding and later fall ill from that exposure.  The children’s new-found friends were my scapegoat as I described the process and how long it typically takes for the shedding process to occur.  Slowly, in between the glares, my kids understood.  I wouldn’t say they appreciated my input, but they at least took me out of the picture as the one to blame for destroying their fun. 

Three days later my five-year old came down with her flu-like symptoms.  She was the third to get pummeled getting hit hard with the aches, chills and a very high fever.  Coming home from school very distraught that day, she told me that a classmate of hers missed the morning portion of school to get his flu shot.  In the throes of her high fever she burst into tears, “Mommy, why’d they go and do that?”  My typical son listened to this sad story and announced through his horrible wheezing and coughing, “I wish the flu shot had never been invented.” 

The glares of grief I had been getting from these precious children of mine turned into dull eyes full despair for their peers.  My kids have been on the receiving end of vaccines that did other things to their body than keep them healthy.  Because of that, I try to shelter my children’s health when I can.  But, do I pull them from school every time we hear of a classmate getting a shot?  If I don’t, they’ll be exposed to whatever the regular population of typically vaccinating people share.   Before shots are doled out to the classmates by their doctors, and because my kids are in school this year instead of homeschooled, I wonder if I should talk to some of my kids’ playmate’s parents I run into prior to those “well-child” visits.  But, would it sound like I’m crucifying the parent?  Maybe they’re just misinformed and think that because the shot record has all those empty boxes they need to fill every single one of them up.  Do parents of school-aged kids know it’s not solely up to the doctor to inject any and every vaccine on the market into their child?  They as the parents should know they have the ability to say thank you, but no thank you to vaccines, right?  Do I take this opportunity to educate someone who might think I’m chastising them instead of educating them?  I need to defend my children as all parents try to do without potentially martyring myself by being vocal with new people who have no idea how devastating their vaccine choices affect my family. 

No easy answer exists with a situation like this.  I could hole myself up in my house with my family and try living in a bubble of just us and our own germs.  Or, I could better prepare my children by boosting their immune systems pre-flu season.  They’ll surely now be exposed to many more people, illnesses and even circumstances where they too may have to make a stand.  My oldest told me that she and two of her classmates “talked from before lunch through the end of recess!” about vaccines because of what happened to her brother Ronan.  One classmate said her Mom won’t let her get any shots while the other classmate hadn’t heard anything about them.  It took longer to explain why Ronan can’t talk and has to go to a special school to learn things.  But, my daughter said she didn’t stop talking about vaccines and vaccine safety until that friend understood. 

I’ve got mini advocates in training.  My typical kids are determined to defend their brother and how his “autism” really isn’t Autism.  These siblings understand full well that they had a typical brother in Ronan at one time.  My younger two don’t remember Ronan any other way than how he acts and behaves today.  But, they love to hear the stories of “Remember when Ronan could do ____!”  We’d all love to see those things and to hear his voice again.  Those stories remind my typical children that everything we do to help Ronan includes extra work and time to secure his many hours of therapy they don’t want to go to.  It includes Mommy’s vigilant efforts to ward off unwelcomed live viruses voluntarily injected into other children.  It also includes being faith filled believers knowing that every effort we offer can be rewarded by some gain or word finally spoken by their brother again.  It takes all of us Jamesons to work together to bring good health and more successes his way.

Grouchy glares from my little people finally turned into tender-hearted hugs.  Ronan actually stayed healthy the entire time that one by one, his siblings fell ill.  Those siblings are now finally on the mend (thank goodness).  It’s been two weeks exactly since I yanked that playmate playtime away.  Several days in a row, the Flumist kids showed up to ask if my kids could play.  I was exhausted from nursing my children back to health, but I politely said no thanks, not today.  I told them that everyone was sick and to come back in a week. Or two.  I really wanted to yell, “Up your nose with a rubber hose…that flu shot really, really blows!” But, I didn’t yell that.  I’ll save that line for another time when I am not so tired of what the flu season does to me or my kids.

Cathy Jameson is a Contributing Editor for Age of Autism.

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"I finally talked him out of the flu shots -- but not the statins."

Well that's one down and one to go.

If ever there has been a colossal failure in US education it is on the subject of cholesterol. Cholesterol was PERFECTED 100s of MILLIONS of years ago. Every multi-celled organism has used cholesterol for 100 of millions of years or for the entire existence of the organism. If there was ANYTHING wrong with cholesterol it would have been changed 100s of millions of years ago.

Cholesterol is PERFECT!

Who does not understand this? Your body as long as it is healthy ALWAYS has EXACTLY the correct amount of cholesterol at ALL TIMES. Does 2 + 2 always = 4?

You need a toxic drug to "regulate" your cholesterol as much as you need to drive nails into your feet to stand still.

The statin drugs are a NEEDLESS, DANGEROUS scam.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_statin.htm

www.normshealy.com is interesting. This Dr. has some
options to statins.

also not a fan of flu shots.

Oh, good news -- we can stop taking those fish oil supplements. It said so on the television and
my husband's dermotologist had heard it too and passed it on to us too. (husband has skin cancer on his face below his eye that has to be removed next week)

Well good, one less thing to take.

Darn; but are not we lucky how well the news media covers this stuff!

Looking at the study though it is limited to:0
3500 people over 60 (large study and that is always good).
it was however, on from 6 months too three years.
No dementia was found in either group that was or was not taking it????

It was for dementia only and not for the other 1000s of diseases that fish oil is suppose to help -- like the sure enough studies that says it helps bipolar, and kidney function in diabetics or supports thyroid function.

Another limitation of the study was -- if fish oil supplements started early in life -- would it make difference much later in life.

Another limitation was -- what does the beginnings of dementia look like??? Hmmmm -- do they have restless leg syndrome? Perhaps thyroid or endocrine system problems?

Nothing like that was addressed, and it should have been before plastering it all over the news.

And Barry:
I am sorry about your mother.

Barry;
Thanks for sharing this.
I and the doctor have been trying to get my father off of statins but he is scared - since he had a heart attack a decade ago. He has Parkinson - can hardly walk -- but his hands are as steady as rock.

My daughter had some trick she had learned while nursing. She had him to hold his whole arm up without support and draw a circle on a piece of paper. He did it with no problem and she said that was a simple test and that meant he did not have Parkinson???? Well she is just a nurse and there maybe more to it.

I finally talked him out of the flu shots -- but not the statins.

"..... We have found that clinically normal individuals aged 60-65 who receive influenza vaccine three or four times during a five-year period, will five years later have an incidence of Alzheimer's disease 10-fold greater than age-matched individuals who did not receive it." Doctor H. Hugh Fudenburg, MD, Note and CDC cannot figure out where Alzheimer's is coming from...."

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When my parents retired ~ 8 years ago, they were both pretty healthy. So my father decided to be proactive about their health, and brought them both to get their flu shots every fall. My mother's doctor also started her on a statin drug upon retirement , to keep her so called "high cholesterol" in check.

Although there is zero history of Alzheimer's in my mothers family, HER Alzheimer's symptoms appeared shortly after she retired. And although she's barely 71 years old now, she can no longer walk, her mind has been reduced to that of a young child, and she was removed to a nursing home just this past weekend, since my 74 year old father can no longer care for her at home.

Although my parents skipped flu shots for the last 2 years, it was too little too late for my mother. And a curious twist for me is that my father, who's never been on statins but received all the same flu shots , did not develop even a sign of Alzheimer's during that same time period.

Although I know it'll never happen, I'd love to see an honest analysis of ALL the drugs being prescribed to this new wave of Alzheimer's patients. I suspect that they will all take a place on that ever-growing list, of lives that have been sacrificed at that altar of allopathy.

"There is no such thing as an effective vaccine, or a safe one."

Ah yes there IS.

"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used” Doctor James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health

As for being effective the very worst "vaccine" such as the "seasonal flu vaccine" that Baxter Labs added the live H5N1 to would have been a VERY effective depopulation means if only those damn ferrets had not interfered.

The "flu vaccine" which contains the potentially VERY dangerous H1N1 vaccine has been demonstrated in HONEST testing to be totally WORTHLESS for EVERYONE is best left to rot in Rockefeller's bed pan.

"We have found that clinically normal individuals aged 60-65 who receive influenza vaccine three or four times during a five-year period, will five years later have an incidence of Alzheimer's disease 10-fold greater than age-matched individuals who did not receive it." Doctor H. Hugh Fudenburg, MD, Note and CDC cannot figure out where Alzheimer's is coming from. Right! 90% of our seniors are getting the "flu vaccine" toxin.

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot.htm

So why the mystery about "Alzheimer's"? 90% of us silly propagandized elders get shot up each and every fall.

I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression, I get so caught up in this,as many of my friends go to the same practice and do vaccinate and are unhappy with the thimerosal dose for their infants, however I do not, my four year old has never had a vaccine, I stopped all vaccines for my children five years ago. My little eight year old asthmatic is the only one among my children that catches the flu from his classmates' "mist", however the other boys with asthma in his class do the same. This isn't a fluke, it probably is another overlooked "problem" with that mist. With two new strains added this year, yes, I am very concerned.

There is no such thing as an effective vaccine, or a safe one.


Barbaraj, you shouldn't want your child to get the thimerosal-free flu shot, either.

The flu shot is ineffective in children, and in the elderly. IT SAYS SO IN THE PACKAGE INSERT.

Its efficacy in adults is only 59%. This doesnt mean that 59% of those who get the flu shot are protected. This means that you are 59% more likely to get the flu if you don't get the flu shot.

According to the study that came up with the 59%, only something like 2.9% of those who didn't get the flu shot got the flu, compared with 1.3.% who did get the flu shot. Either way, 97% didn't get the flu, even without the shot! They got common flu-like viruses which the vaccine doesn't even pretend to protect you from.

So why risk the dangers of the shot when it doesn't work in the first place? And don't forget, the flu shot (and other vaccines) can CAUSE asthma: http://www.smartvax.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69

If it can cause asthma in the first place, it seems likely that it would exacerbate it as well.

I think you're better off making sure your child gets adequate vitamin D3 and C, so that when they are exposed, they will be more likely to mount an adequate immune system response, with a minimum of symptoms.

Please take a look at http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00xM82G58_B4v70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS--

One of our children had a recent dental visit, where this new "Vanish" fluoride varnish was applied, shortly before he had almost every symptom listed on page 2. His symptoms lasted nearly a month.

It occurs to me that the children who are likely to react badly to vaccines (um, like our children) are the ones who are likely to react badly to fluoride treatments.

And how many parents plan both dental and well-child checkups for the same week, right before school starts?

Read that material safety data sheet carefully. And then make sure all your friends see it, because the dentists aren't giving ANY warnings of potential side effects, in spite of 2 pages of them listed, not to mention the warning, "contains a chemical or chemicals that can cause cancer."

If they're not injecting poison into our children, or shooting up their noses, they're painting it on their teeth.

It may not be the nasal flu thingy.
There is already something going around this year starting way back in the middle of August.

My immune compromised husband came down with it first and I would love to know where he picked it up at???? He had 103 temperature, racing heart and I spent the day in the emergerency room with ALL monitoring him.

Then my son came down, but got over it fast (was the sickest).
My daughter came down with it-- coughed her lungs out because she is now the sickest, and most recent to have her immune system damaged again with vaccines. She had to miss several days of work.

I came down with it, I worked most of the time; but I sure needed a nap in the afternoon when I ran a slight temperature.
It starts off a really sore throat, and bad cough, fever (slight) if you are not immune compromised. It seems a little more than a head cold, but for me much less than the flu?????


Second to the left in the picture of your article, Cathy!

The picture??? For your article Cathy????
Travolta has stayed quiet long enough.

With thanks to Cathy I posted the following relevant comment this evening in a Daily Telegraph blog originally about whooping cough:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9570457/Pregnant-women-to-be-given-whooping-cough-vaccine-to-protect-unborn-child.html#

"If you are proposing the vaccination of 10m children then a 0.6%-2.4% risk of infecting someone else would be a lot of people. Moreover, the package inserts warn recipients to stay away from immune compromised people. If you are going to go into schools and vaccinate everyone in sight it is unlikely that too many questions will be asked. If someone or their parents elect for them not to be vaccinated because of someone vulnerable in the family they will still be exposed to hundreds of other children shedding the virus each with a 0.6%-2.4% risk of infecting someone. There may also be vulnerable students in the schools. Moreover, most years they don't even identify the right strains so they will be exposing the population en masse to a virus strain they most likely would not otherwise encounter.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20614424

"So, one minute you are jumping up and down about the risk to infants from whooping cough, and the next you are insisting on them being exposed to flu viruses in pursuit of the vaccine agenda. It is an utter contradiction. The only purpose is to serve an industry.

"I am by the way not anti-vaccine in principle, I am anti a culture and its mindless acceptance.

"Also, the government have lied about annual flu deaths which are generally in the tens rather than thousands:

http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e5313?tab=responses

CMO, they started infant dosing in mid September, first of the two part flu vaccine with thimerosal. They said they will not order the "free from thimerosal" because it's not necessary, thimerosal has been cleared of association with ASD by thorough studies. Now, here's the bullying aspect, the docs there said, it would be unfortunate to take a chance on flu by not getting the shot by mid sept, and the only offering of thimerosal free will be at the health department in October. You can wait if you want to accept the risk. Bottom line, there will be no thimerosal free shots at this office this year.

Barbra;

(only option / thimerosal vaccine/ available at my doc's office this year including infant vaccine...)

Are you saying their is "no mercury free flu vaccine" available even if you would want to pay extra for it ???

Even for a 6 month old infant ???

I hate this month! My son can't have flu mist if I want it, he's an asthmatic, and every year his classmates line up in school for it, within a week, he's ill, very ill. Can I avoid it by being a parent willing to have him receive a thimerosal vaccine ( only option available at my doc's office this year including infant vaccine)..the answer is no. Two of his co-asthmatic classmates' moms do this,and it doesn't work. I am really dreading this year with the addition of two types that weren't in last years, he will likely get sicker. Can it be avoided, no, it kick starts the epidemic every year for us, with germ carriers shedding deadly virus everywhere, not just in school.

Hi Cathy

Yes, we are on course for universal Flumist or its European equivalent for schoolchildren in the UK by 2014. AstraZenica are counting on the British taxpayer to pay for this disgusting junk with an insert which points out that it leaves the recipient infectious for days, and will presumably in most years spread strains that would not otherwise have proliferated. And note Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation chair Andrew Hall remained silent about this when challenged in on-line BMJ:

http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e5313?tab=responses

'Primum nocere' seems to be the modern motto.

John

PS He is also, of course, stonewalling on flu deaths being less than 1% of the JCVI's working figure.

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