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Daily Mail Reports on Italian MMR Autism Vaccine Injury Award

Italy flagAt nine months old, Valentino Bocca was as bright as a button. In a favourite family photo, taken by his father, the baby boy wriggles in his mother’s arms and laughs for the camera.

His parents look at the precious picture often these days. It is a reminder of their only son before they took him on a sunny morning to the local public health clinic for a routine childhood vaccination.

Valentino was never the same child after the jab in his arm. He developed autism and, in a landmark judgment, a judge has ruled that his devastating disability was provoked by the inoculation against measles, mumps and rubella (MMR).

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160054/MMR-A-mothers-victory-The-vast-majority-doctors-say-link-triple-jab-autism-Italian-court-case-reignite-controversial-debate.html#ixzz1xu7lMBW5

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Had a family reunion this past weekend. Someone was a HUGE Alex Jones follower(he's a radio host/conspiracy theorist). Well, this person started talking about how Alex Jones believes that the government is creating diseases and situations that will lessen our population in the future. He was VERY detailed about how the government is doing all of this, but never mentioned autism.

When I mentioned how I believed that a few years down the line most of our men and some women will be "disabled" due to autism and not able to protect our country via military, police, fire, etc...much less procreate, they were stunned. We suddenly stood there with a massive connection on two very different levels. It was extremely frightening to say the least.

All my friends and I had measles, mumps and chicken pox growing up. Everybody in my school had all of them. Nobody, to my knowledge, had any lasting effects from any of these childhood illnesses.

Now I'm tripping over ticcy, twitchy semi-verbal kids.

One other major newspaper, The Independent (UK), has just published a report on this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/italian-court-reignites-mmr-vaccine-debate-after-award-over-child-with-autism-7858596.html

But so far that's all the coverage it has received.

Cycleman3

The Italian Lira has long since ceased to exist, subsumed into the now floundering Euro: these are British pounds so if you divide about 5 and multiply by about 8 you should get the figure in US dollars. This scarcely represents lifetime damages but is better than the approx $170k that is maximum payout of the UK vaccine damage scheme, in the improbable event of your claim being recognised (ie there were no payouts at all last year so we must assume the vaccine programme is completely safe).

John


Quote from the article:
“His parents have already been awarded £140,000 and could be paid an additional £800,000 in their case against the Italian government”

My Comment:
If I got it right: 1,000,000 Italian Lira = $651 US

This won't go away until either vaccines or autism are eradicated. I'm praying it's both.

We diagnosed our child with Autism at 3 years old it was pretty obvious. For most it's not. The process is always gradual the idea that MMR coincides with immediate onset of autism as a coincidence is simply not scientific as Autism does not turn on with a switch. It's a learning disorder and that takes time to develop. Any child exhibiting rapid autistic behaviour with no signs of it before the jab has an open and shut case in my view, something caused brain damage which is what autism is, a kind we can't easily detect without a fine MRI scan. The problem is in the legal case which is the highest risk, measles for many kids or induced autism for 1 in a thousand or less. Our lives changed beyond all recognition when we sadly had to face our son's autism. There isn't a day go by when I don't think about how hard our family has been this last 16 years, but also how lucky we are to be intelligent enough to understand autism, unlike the BMA!

Wise up,
Those childhood infections had decreased because of increased hygene,clean drinking water,more light and windows
in the houses(Vitamin D increases immune strength),better nutrition,sewage management,hand washing etc.
NOT because of the contaminated and heavy metal vaccines (and other junks like:aluminum adjuvants) were introduced.
Auto-immune illnesses sky-rocketed at the same time when the regular vaccinations began.Our trust is lost,when your child is so ill,everything is lost.Health is the greatest
treasure,that they have taken away from our children.

Wise One,
I just don't understand people who think it is ok for some children to suffer at the expense of others... Oh, wait,,, that is your metality too... You don't want your or other children to suffer at the expense of those who don't want to vaccinate children. Other parents don't want to sacrifice their babies at the expense of those who are willing to take vaccines... You see,,, the divide is not that great. The divide is only there for lack of science proving vaccines don't cause autism and 14 studies showing a link between the two that are not shown on pharma media sponsored television. If you want to be as wise as you say you are, you would study both sides and then realize that t his is all the fault of the medical community who is ignorning children who fall to autism like symptoms following vaccinations. these children don't really have autism. Rather, they have vaccine injuries. And if you don't think vaccination causes injuries, then you need to read the packet inserts. Reading both sides of the story is always the wise thing to do. :) May you have a change of heart and do some homework to protect all children.

"...The prudent choice would be to offer the single shots as they are safer..."

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The prudent choice is to avoid vaccines altogether. There is no such thing as a safe and effective vaccine.

Oh and BarbaraJ I thought you might find this interesting. Our pastor's wife received a flu shot and then she and her husband went off for shopping and dinner.

She began to feel terrible, and her eyes became blood red, her tongue swollen and painful, her skin became pink. She went to the ER and they told her to take no more flu shots. They gave her steroids.

Fast forward to a few years. They came to be with us during my mother's illness this past fall and she could not walk down the stairs because of her knees. She is having to have them operated on they are so bad.

Does it sound like Kawasakis to you?

Barbara J
The Japanese began to have a lot of problems with Kawasakis in the 60s. Asian people maybe more sensitive to Kawasakis. 1 out of 150 Japanese children have had Kawasakis. (Good gosh) S Korea 1 out of 38 has autism???!!!
The Japanese thought it was the DPT shot, and they changed that shot to the DTaP decades before the rest of the world.


Caucasians it is suppose to be rare. I imagine what is really going on - that Caucasians don't have full blown but more of the atypical type of Kawasakis.

Kawasakis researchers just like the autism researchers are wither silly or corrupt - take your pick.

I got this off of the WIKE for Kawasaki's disease.

"A question was raised whether the disease only started during the period between 1960 and 1970, but later a preserved heart of a 7 year old boy who died in 1870 was examined and showed three aneurysms of the coronary arteries with clots, as well as pathologic changes consistent with KD.[130] KD is now recognized worldwide. In the United States and other developed nations, it appears to have replaced acute rheumatic fever as the most common cause of acquired heart disease in children.[131"

So to prove their point it is not vaccines they have found this heart perseverd in ----- alcohol????? But pay no attention that the incidents of Kawasakis is increasing.

Wise One; Never got to witness their child react to a vaccine minutes after that vaccine. With spikes of temperature, passing out, gasping for air, eyes fixed in their head, not responding to anything around them and pupils almost blowing out from becoming so huge.

Wise One; Is still scared of catching some disease that chances are modern medicine or immune system can get us through; but for some strange reason has no fear of an autoimmunity disease that last forever.

Wise One: should not be calling itself Wise One on this subject.

To 'Wise One' - YYUR YYUB ICURYY4 Me!!

The Daily Mail mods seem to have closed their comment thread at 324 comments.The 'top' comment attracted nearly 450 'green arrows' of approval, (including mine), and expressed concerns about 'combining' vaccines and giving multiple vaccines to babies at a single visit. This person said:-

"Bombarding a baby's immune system seems wrong, and many people would be happy with immunisation if it was spread out"

None of the the 'top ten' comments expressed 'anti-vaccine' sentiments, but most expressed concerns about vaccine safety and choice; the profits made by the vaccine manufacturers also came into this debate. I was pleased to see my comment at No 10.

The Daily Mail is to be commended for reporting the case of Valentino Bocca, and opening up this very important issue to public debate. Needless to say this is NOT a Murdoch Newspaper.

Both my daughter, and a boy in my son's kindergarten developed Kawasaki within weeks of their measle vaccine, again that vaccine keeps raising it's ugly head. I've seen articles, and will post one. The disease and the Measle vaccine arrived at the same point in time and there was much interest, but as with autism, the interest has waned , it's very suspect that developing ideas are so abruptly halted. Perhaps by direction of these pharmaceuticals.http://vir.sgmjournals.org/content/73/6/1581.full.pdf

I guess Wise One won't feel so wise when his/her child or spouse, suffers an adverse event due to a vaccine. Perhaps the adverse event will be due to a novel adjuvant using oils that are too similar to the human body's oils causing the body to attack itself, or perhaps due to some viral or bacterial contaminant from a cow, pig, monkey, dog, chicken or caterpillar, or maybe the nurse administering the shot will simply forget to shake that multi-dose vial and will give out a bolus dose of mercury in the shot. Or, maybe something extra special, like charred plastic shrink wrap, will be found in the vaccine vial, courtesy of a lazy vaccine manufacturer that doesn't give a crap about the purity of their product, causing the adverse event. (Sound familiar, everyone?) Good luck, Wise One. You and your family are going to need it. You want to inject this crap into your body. Go for it. Take it all. Be my guest.

@ “Wise One” – there’s a laugh! The hell with you. No, I would not “really prefer your kids to suffer these hideous diseases,” but you know what? That was not likely to happen anyway. How many people have you personally seen suffer from these diseases? Both my father and my mother-in-law had a couple of the diseases you mention and they are FINE. My son however is not, he has vaccine induced autism which is LIFELONG. And, it should have been MY choice to decide what was best for MY child. But I was not given that choice because the CDC, the government, the vaccine companies and the doctors are not truthful about what COULD happen. Maybe if you saw what vaccines did to YOUR child and how it ruined their life you would understand, but obviously you haven’t…

@ Wise One

Oh Wise One ..

I have combed your post for the indelible stains of sarcasm .. am I to assume that you are serious ? OMG I think I shall pass your communication onto the family legal eagles .. Messers Rookem, Grabitt and Runne .. who will expertly comb a large number of dollars out of your fur.

There is one born everyday.
New Zealand.

Opps my post did not go through.

Two things here.

Courts said Hannah had inherited her mother's mitochondria and it was defective - and when the vaccine came along it made it all worse.

The second thing; High temperatures can cause heat shocked proteins. And Kawasaki sites talk about this since Kawasakis cause such high temperatures.
Jon Poling - Hannah's father said he thought perhaps it was heat shocke proteins from high fevers that was messing up the mitochondria.

But here is something to think on.

My husband went to get another tetanus shot at 34 after reacting with seizures to another one at age 28. He never ran a fever. He also had exactly like Hannah Aquired Oxidative phosphorylation -- Krebs cycle is messed up just like Hannah's at the Complex I and Complex III. He did not receive defective mitochondria from his mother.

Also mitochondria is inherited from the mother only.
My husband is the father not the mother and his two children that most probably have the same thing as he.

So it is the immune system that is messing up the mitochodria. We exist -- we are here ---Hey! Answers not too hard to find on this stuff.

There is truth in this statement..from journal 2001, which describes efforst to understand the dangers and hopes of correcting , proof of an unsafe marketed vaccine, marketed without the methods in place to make it safe.
"both vaccinal and the wild-type strains of MV inhibited hypersensitivity reactions in our study. Efficient immunization against measles is an important public health issue; it is critical for eradication of the disease, but requires additional improvements. Trials using a high-titered attenuated MV vaccine were stopped because of unacceptable morbidity and mortality (Garenne et al. 1991), and its pathogenesis remains to be understood. Further identification of specific NP sequences responsible for the binding of FcR may allow the development of the new generation of MV vaccines, eventually deprived of immunosuppressive activity.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1074761301000905

I meant the courts said Hannah already had a mitochondria problem before the vaccines and it only made her inherited condition worse.

Presumably 'Wise One' is 'Speak no evil'of 'Wise Monkeys' fame.

What happens when parents go to their doctor's to voice their opinion that their child regressed after vaccination? As in this case, such concerns are routinely brushed under the carpet, and the subsequent development of autism is dismissed as coincidence. This happens time and again; how many times is not known, because nobody has bothered to keep count. Parents' concerns need to be taken seriously and thorough clinical research into the safety of these vaccinations is required. Unfortunately, in the increasingly authoritarian political climate in which we live, those who question the safety of vaccines are portrayed as irresponsible and blamed for undermining the ever-expanding childhood vaccination programme. But is it right that the only way of maintaining this programme, which is necessarily based on trust in the authorities, is by silencing criticism and muzzling debate? Let's get this issue out in the open; our children deserve no less.

No no no. There is NO link. Fact. Autism doesn't make itself known until the age of 12 to 18 months. Same time as vaccine. That's the ONLY link - timing. He would have been autistic whether he'd had the vaccine or not. Totally irresponsible journalism. Measles, mumps and rubella used to cause so much harm to children before the vaccine - 100 deaths a year from measles alone. That's what should be bought to the attention of parents not this trash journalism. Shame on you daily mail.

I do not understand people's hatred for vaccinations. Vaccination that have eradicated small pox, polio, diptheria, whooping cough, measles, mumps, rubella. Would you really prefer your kids to suffer these hideous diseases because of some unfounded claims that there may be a link to autism. Come on people - wise up.

Please access "Autism - A Condtioned Response to Biochemical Toxicity?" on www.bibbypublishing.com/autism to read a scientific paper that has been "frozen out" despite being peer reviewed by leading scientific journals in the USA and Europe because it mentioned vaccines and prescriptive medicines. the paper is about autistic vision and behaviour and is validated by the latest brain imaging research.
The paper can be read on line with no charge.

I commend the Daily Mail for reporting on this. Without media coverage, the average citizen has no idea that there are even pros and cons to vaccination, as all they hear from the doctors are the pros, and it's in the doctor's office that instant decisions are made. Reporting on both sides allows for more open discussion of what is really a very complex and individualized medical decision. Remember how all the genetic research was supposed to lead to personalized medicine? Yet the general medical establishment seems to want individualization only if the medical topic is not vaccines.

Here is a great reminder that the science of possible alternatives to vaccines continues. Are vaccines laden with toxins shot directly into the blood the only way to prevent serious diseases?

The title of the following article is: Breast Milk kills HIV and blocks its oral transmission in humanized Mouse.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120614182751.htm

So far no other important news outlet has reported this story.

Good to see Daily Mail publishing this in the news when will our media wake up to what is happening with these lost children at the hands of compromising their immune systems with vaccinations and other toxins.
It was good to hear Prof Montagnier presenting at a recent Autism One conference about treating underlying pathogens in all chronic diseases.

The recent research in France 10 doctors treating 200 children with Autism on long term antibiotics with 4 out of 5 recovering, video http://lookingatlyme.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/treating-autism-with-antibiotics.html

Please guys share this story on Facebook and Twitter via article links. Every little helps.

I know of several kids who regressed thanks to one of the single vaccines, so those are not THE solution, but in any case it would be 'nice' if parents were given more choice.

Do we hold our breath now for the rest of UK media to report on this story??

The prudent choice would be to offer the single shots as they are safer.
Enough of the politics!

Fingers crossed someone over here will test it throught the UK ,in-justice system..were all part of Europe when it suits Cameron et-al...

Angus

Please Please Please!! Support the Daily Mail by contributing to the comment thread for this article, which has already attracted a large number of comments with lots of personal parent 'stories' about the MMR vaccinations given to their children.

Against this-Same old stuff about the terrible dangers from measles, mumps etc. Some posters seem to be unaware that SINGLE vaccinations are privately available for all three diseases. In particular, a Jeryl Lynn version of monovalent Mumps vaccine was licenced for use in the UK very recently.

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