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Dr. Wakefield on Good Morning America

Dr. wakefield Dr. Andew Wakefield appeared on Good Morning America today. Click HERE to go to their site and read more. Thank you to Bob Moffitt for this unofficial transcript of the program.

Introduction by host George Stepanopolus:

'Few debates are more emotional than the one swirling around childhood vaccines and autism.  Even though no reputable study has ever established a link .. many parents continue to worry about that link in part because of the work of Andrew Wakefield ... since he first popularized the idea that vaccines might have a role in triggering autism.  His study has been refuted by doctors and journalists .. most recently .. last week .. by the British Medical Journal which called his original study an "elaborate fraud".  Wakefield is here to answer that charge .. but .. first .. Dr. Richard Besser .. has the back-story.

VOICE OVER:  In 1998 .. British researcher Andrew Wakefield authored a paper linking the MMR vaccine to autism.

VIDEO .. DR. WAKEFIELD:  The work certainly raised a question mark over the MMR vaccine.

VOICE OVER:  One small study ignited a huge public health scare and an even bigger anti-vaccine movement.  Fears about autism gripped parents .. and .. some started to refuse life-saving vaccines for their kids.

VIDEO DR. PAUL OFFIT:  What's happened is that children have suffered and have been hospitalized .. have died .. because of the false notion that vaccines cause autism.

VOICE OVER:  Two weeks ago .. the prestigious British Medical Journal reported that Wakefield's study was an "elaborate fraud".

VIDEO BRIAN DEER:  I think what Dr. Wakefield did was a moral crime .. ah .. if not an actual crime.

VOICE OVER:  Reporter Brian Deer debunked Wakefield's study by comparing the original medical records to the study data .. he found much of the science was falsified .. but .. even before this report .. Wakefield had been stripped of his medical license .. his study was retracted by the journal that published it .. and .. at least twelve studies have proven there is no link between the MMR vaccine and autism .. but .. the damage was already done.  Wakefield's fraud has undermined the medical community .. some parents who had once trusted their doctors .. are now suspicious of their advice.

VOICE OVER MOM OF AUTISTIC SON:  There was always that lingering doubt in the back of my mind ... was it the vaccinations that caused his autism.

DR. BESSER SPEAKING TO SETH MNOOKIN .. AUTHOR OF "THE PANIC VIRUS"

DR. BESSER:  The debate around vaccines has really led to the whole field of science taking a hit.  That's a shift in our country .. isn't it?

MR. MNOOKIN:  I think so, absolutely.  Sixty years ago .. doctors and scientists were among the most respected members of society .. that's not the case at all today.

VIDEO PARENTS DAN AND KELLY LASIK:  We're still in shock.

VOICE OVER:  Because of Wakefield's study, they didn't vaccinate their son Mathew against HiB .. a disease that causes bacterial meningitis .. Mathew became very sick .. they blame Wakefield.

VIDEO DAN LASIK:  To find out that it's been a fraud .. and .. that its a conscious effort to .. you know .. mislead the people .. umm ..that's frustrating.

DR. RICHARD BESSER .. ABC NEWS NEW YORK

GEORGE STEPANOPLUS:  Dr. Andrew Wakefield joins us now .. he's the author of the book "Callous Disregard:  Autism and Vaccines .. the truth behind the tragedy".  Good morning .. thanks for coming in.  What you call it the "truth behind the tragedy"  ... Dr. Besser summarizes the case against your research pretty well.  Reputable journalists and scientists have looked at your original research .. debunked it.  Ten of your twelve fellow authors and the journal that published it .. retracted it.  You've never replicated the results .. your license to practice medicine has been revoked .. and .. last week .. the British Medical Journal concluded this .. they say ... clear evidence of falsification of data .. should now close the door on this damaging vaccine scare.   Given all this .. why should anyone trust what you have to say about this matter?

DR. WAKEFIELD:  George, let me start by saying the allegations made by Brian Deer against me were completely false.  They were completely false .. there was no fraud ...

GEORGE .. INTERRUPTING:  They're backed up by the journal .. they're backed up by other doctors and journalists....

DR. WAKEFIELD:  There was no fraud.  There was no falsification.  There was no hoax.  We stand by the finding we originally reported in the Lancet.  My fellow authors have not retracted from the original observations of gastrointestinal disease .. a novel and very important finding in these children.  What we reported is the parental history of regression following the vaccine ...

GEORGE:  And .. inaudible .. went back and talked to the parents and found the records don't match to what they said ...

DR. WAKEFIELD:  No, he didn't.  In fact ..

GEORGE .. INTERRUPTING AGAIN:  Yes, he did.  I've read the study .. I've read your book.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  He did not do that.  And, in fact, when you analyze the records, as I have done meticulously .. what he has done is manipulated and falsified the way in which he compared the original GP's records .. with what we wrote.  What we wrote in the Lancet is a precise replication of what the parents told us.   And .. when you go back and check it with the original records .. which I have to say George .. were not available to us at the time.  Those original GP records .. were not available to us .. but .. when ...

GEORGE  INTERRUPTING AGAIN:  The truth is .. the original records don't match what was in your study.   And .. you look back, since you first published the study in 1998 .. the Lancet has walked away from it.  It has been called by leading Deans of medical schools .. "the worst study they have ever written" .. and .. on the important question of replication .. all the other scientists who have looked at it .. who have been peer-reviewed .. twelve studies .. show no link at all.  And .. you haven't replicated the results.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  The findings we made in the original study .. were of a bowel disease in children with autism.  Let me make that absolutely clear .. that is what has been replicated.  We have replicated it .. when I left the Royal Free .. we'd seen over 174 more patients with the same disorder.

GEORGE INTERRUPTING AGAIN:  But you said at the press conference you would not recommend .. you told parents .. not to get the MMR vaccine .. based on what you had found.  None of the other doctors would go that far .. and .. you manufactured a scare at a time when you were in a position to profit from it.  You didn't tell people .. they ..

DR. WAKEFIELD INTERRUPTING:  No .. I didn't manufacture ...

GEORGE:  You didn't tell people you were being paid by the lawyer who was brining a case...

DR. WAKEFIELD INTERRUPTING:  No ..

GEORGE:  and you didn't tell people you had set up a pattern for a different vaccines so you could profit from the scare once it was set up.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  That's wholly untrue.

GEORGE:  That is not untrue.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  That is wholly untrue.  I did not stand to profit from the work at all.  What I did was to respond to parental concerns .. I didn't manufacture this .. parents came to me and said:  "This is what happened to my child"...

GEORGE:  After they were contacted by the lawyer .. they were recruited by the lawyer and other activists...

DR. WAKEFIELD:  Again, this is completely false.  Please, George, check your facts .. those parents ...

GEORGE INTERUPPTING:  I have checked my facts ..

DR. WAKEFIELD:  Those parents came to us long before there was any litigation.  The first parent came to me on May 17, 1995 .. I did not even hear about lawyers until the January of the next year.

GEORGE:  Several of the patients in the study had parents who came to you after they received word from the lawyer and other activists.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  No, that's not true.  They were referred to Professor John Walker-Smith at the Royal Free for investigation of their clinical symptoms .. which turned out to represent a novel bowel disease .. that has been replicated around the world .. by Harvard as well as over twenty institutions in this country.

GEORGE:  No one's replicated the link with autism and vaccines .. several people in the study had behavioral problems connected to autism before the vaccines.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  No .. they didn't.  No .. they did not.

GEORGE:  The study says there were five of them that did.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  Well, I'm afraid that Brian Deer says that.  Let me give you one example .. he said .. in the case of child one ... I'll give you this very precise example .. we said the first behavior symptoms started within a week of the vaccine .. that was "delirium" .. that was reported to us by the mother.  The first behavioral symptom he said was several weeks before .. that the child's parent was concerned about his hearing .. and .. that is often .. problems with hearing ... the first sign of autism.  What he omitted from those GP records .. the essential ingredient he omitted .. is the child also had a discharge from that ear.   The child had an ear infection .. and .. he turned it around .. excluded ear infection and said we had misrepresented the data.  That is just typical of the misrepresentation in his data.

GEORGE:  But, he is not alone .. he is not alone ... you have had your medical license revoked.  In Great Britain .. they've charged you with dishonesty .. the Lancet work retracted .. the study .. the journal stands behind Mr. Deer .. his findings.  These people are not alone .. the weight of the evidence is all on the other side.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  No .. it is not.  The weight of the evidence as you read in this book .. is completely the opposite.  There is a bowel disease .. its been replicated in five countries around the world.  There are over twenty institutions in this country that have replicated the bowel disease and who are investigating children.  Children are now getting better .. their symptoms are better.  They had been discarded before .. it was just expected .. if you had bowel symptoms with autism .. that was just the way it was.  No .. they have a bowel disease .. that was the crucial discovery.  Are vaccines linked to autism?  I don't know .. but .. I know the serious investigations ...

GEORGE INTERRUPTING:  It's been investigated.  The Institute of Medicine has looked at every single study and they have not found any link.  I have just one final question for you because a lot of parents are listening:  You have four children .. were they vaccinated?

DR. WAKEFIELD:  My first two children received the MMR .. the other two didn't .. but .. let me put it again.  I am for safety first .. I am not anti-vaccine .. safety first.  Ralph Nader was for safer cars .. he wasn't anti-cars.  I am not anti-vaccine .. the vaccine strategy .. the vaccine policy in this country is not safe .. the safety has never been proven.

GEORGE:  Since people have stopped taking the vaccines .. we've seen the incidence of whooping cough go up .. especially in California .. ten kids died last year.

DR. WAKEFIELD:  I have never pronounced anything on whooping cough vaccines.  My interests, my research .. my extensive reporting on this has been confined to the Measles, Mumps and Rubella.  The safety studies of that vaccine are largely inadequate .. not my words .. the words of an international expert .. "largely inadequate".   The safety studies have not been done .. I've not said "Don't get vaccinated".  I strongly advocate for the use of single vaccines.

GEORGE:  So, what is your recommendation today?

DR. WAKEFIELD:  My recommendation for parents is to read, there is extensive information out there ..from websites like the CDC's website, the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) .. Vaccine Safety First .. they should go and read that .. they should look at both sides of the argument .. because .. believe me ... there are two sides to the argument.  Read .. get information .. talk to a sympathetic pediatrician and then .. based upon the science .. the good solid science .. make a decision.

GEORGE:  Okay, Dr. Wakefield, thank you very much.....

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In the interview Wakefield did not claim a link between autism and vaccines. He said, "Are vaccines linked to autism? I don't know." I also know parents of children with autism. They also claim that there was no link between vaccines and their childs illness. Claiming that Wakefield is the only honest researcher in the whole world while all others are being manipulated is very hard to believe.

Is anybody else recovering from post trraumatic stress syndrome?

I am still abreacting the week that just went down.

I turn on the computer last Thursday and see Andy's face, fraud, and think, this is trouble. For a moment I am confused, because I do not usually see people I know on the home page of AOL. Then I know, this is trouble. As it turns out, Andy/vaccine safety was used to camoflage the non-coverage of healthcare reform.

Vaccine safety/Andy Wakefield was the network's best shot at covering a major news hole. The critcal days leading up to the vote were white noised out. With a whimper, its end was reported next to the White House State Dinner. Lucky for the president the Chinese came now.

Vaccine safety/Andy Wakefield draws viewers. What if Andy refused the interview, which I am sure never crossed his mind. The network would have had to find something newsworthy, something important enough to cover the hole. It would have been a scramble. They could have ended up looking bad. How did the segment change opinion about vaccine safety? They may know. We do not.

I am certain that significant data was collected over the Stephanopolous interview. Trust me, if it had been bad for us, we'd have heard. I think lots of people know other people who have an affected child. That is way more compelling than TV journalism. And those are the numbers I think they got. Who knows what they found out. Maybe some of it is public information.

It really terrifies me that the news media is still boasting the idea to millions that the benefits of vaccination outway the risk of adverse events, especially when it has more than trippled this year, still ignoring the parents and what they have witnessed w/ their children who have been forever damaged by vaccines. It trully breaks my heart, Please read the book,'Age of Autism; Mercury, Medicine and A Man-Made Epidemic. People need to start using their BRAIN; or maybe they have too much brain damage to go there!!!

They really did cover vaccine safety as opposed to the heathcare reform vote which came down today. Do not forget that I called this, all my friends and patients' parents that might have been following. It really helps to have a context for the situation you are in, especially if it is bad. Context helps you make decisions.

I said that the attack on Andy was coming at this time to cause a news distraction from what was going on this week in Washington. Reference above.

Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence:
Indeed, we must all hang together, otherwise we shall most assuredly hang separately.

It was not coincidence that the Stephanopolous interview was held on a Monday holiday, lots of people home in front of the TV, a major opportunity to both collect data and influence public opinion. Wakefield was too inexperienced to recognize a land mine: a super prime time interview, and a veteran TV commentator with a mandate from his network and an axe to grind. I couldn’t bring myself to watch it. I still can’t. But Andy is a rugby player. They take things straight on and get bashed around. Despite the forces amassed against him on this occasion, all the propaganda in the universe is not going to sway a parent who watched his child’s descent into autism after one or several vaccines. And there are a lot of parents like that.

The British outnumbered the Americans five to one in the American Revolution. The Americans were frightened. Their first battle was a terrible rout. Ultimately they won the war because of courage, cunning, and because they had no choice. It was fight or be tyrannized.

Many, many of us are with you, Dr. Wakefield, and your strength and courage supports us in our own struggles.

George, we shall stop watching you.

Well the article at least has a positive headline and does give Wakefield's denial of fraud.

British Researcher Wakefield Defends Link Between Vaccine and Autism

British Researcher Holds True to His Study Despite Claims of Falsified Data

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Autism/autism-vaccine-link-research-dr-andrew-wakefield-fraud/story?id=12630566

Here is the closing comments of the article:

"What is most destructive in an episode such as this is the undermining of the public's confidence in the integrity of science," said Amaral. "Without replication, fraud and poorly conducted research will not stand the test of time."

From the Interview:

GEORGE: ....."the weight of the evidence is all on the other side".
DR. WAKEFIELD: "No .. it is not. The weight of the evidence as you read in this book .. is completely the opposite. There is a bowel disease .. its been replicated in five countries around the world. There are over twenty institutions in this country that have replicated the bowel disease and who are investigating children."

What is the GMC and Deer and Glaxo Smith Kline going to do? Infiltrate all of the other studies, and threaten all of these other doctors and researchers with prosecution and stripping them of their license to practice? That will not be so easy to do again outside of Great Britain.

There are several explanations as to the statement by George that he has read Dr. Wakefield's book, Callous Disregard. Since there is no way he could have believed his own words in this broadcast if he had actually read the book; he is either lying and did NOT actually "read the book", OR if he did read the book and had any inclination in support of Dr. Wakefield after doing so, he was threatened by his superiors who were threatened by their pharmaceutical advertisers to support the "other side"; OR he simply cannot comprehend the evidence in the book due to his inability to comprehend the English language.

We need a documentary with statements and interviews with the original 12 parents and the following 174 children seen by the Royal Free Hospital. And interviews of doctors and researchers replicating Wakefield's finding of bowel disease following MMR. And interviews of parents here in the USA who witnessed regression into autism and bowel disease in their own children. Someone out there has the ability to produce this documentary: PLEASE STEP FORWARD for the sake of millions of innocent children.

Does ANYBODY know what is going on with the huge, expensive socialist program that is being rolled into place in Washington right now? I think it relates. Pharmaceutical interests have lost a lot of money over bad products, not just the MMR. Forcing 44M people to buy insurance brings in quite a bit of money. It will be carefully strategised. Have you heard any information about what is happening to that legislation? Or are they getting three birds with one stone as I suggested earlier?

He who answers a matter before he hears it'
It is folly and shame to him

PROVERBS 18:13


The first one to plead his cause seems right,
Until his neighbor comes and examines him.

PROVERBS 18:17

Dr. Mullen:

Do not lump the vaccine-autism debate into some type of "socialist agenda." That is just nonsensical. Shame on you for buying into the baloney that the right-wing corporatists from BOTH major parties are trying to feed us. This issue has nothing to do with healthcare reform -- which is desperately needed. It has nothing to do with socialism. It has to do with protecting the medical industrial complex even in the face of overwhelming evidence of harm. The "ism" that its closest to is fascism.

Yeah!!!

Wakefield is on Alex Jones today!! He was able to explain everything.

While we all hoped for a fair hearing from the GMC, in retrospect that decision was the set up for BMJ prostitution with Brian Deer and the subsequent media attacks that followed from it. Neither do I think that the timing of these events is accidental. While we are occupied with this propaganda that can lead to a media circus if charges are brought, the antecedents to the House vote on healthcare reform go unreported. As FDR said, "Nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."

The current attack on Wakefield and the media coverage around it, supports the goals of overall socialist strategy: to secure the funding of the healthcare reform act, to smash Wakefield and the association of vaccines with autism, and to damage the credibility of biomedical treatment in so far as possible. NOBODY, least of all Wakefield, should discuss this matter with any media outlet. There is no possibility whatever of a fair hearing or balanced argument. It just increases our burden. If criminal charges are filed against Wakefield, NOBODY SHOULD SAY A WORD. We feed the monster if we engage in dialog at this time. Only his defense attorneys should respond with a statement. Then these pundits will have to go on discussing among themselves how right they are, which is pretty boring and won't get good ratings. The air time that the subject gets will diminish considerably. We are confronting the activity of professionals who know very well what they are attempting. Our response must be professional also.

Has anyone been able to get any information on what kind of deals are going down over healthcare?

Harry the ("Hairy"?)
DOCTOR Wakefield may not have a license to practice medicine for the time being but he HAS EARNED a degree in medicine, which means he has EARNED the title of DOCTOR. I know people that have a doctorates degree in English. They are referred to as DOCTOR also but do not have a license to practice medicine. When a doctor retires and no longer keeps his/her license current, do we say that they aren't a doctor anymore??
If you earn it, the degree and the title stay.
I do hope that answers your question and I am happy to be of service to you.
Furthermore, my 81 yr neighbor watched this interview. Later he said he never heard a word Dr. Wakefield was saying because that “damn reporter” kept talking over him.

Erik,

When you evaluate things in terms of secular humanism versus primary faith in God to get us through minor stuff like Measles, it makes perfect sense to see the left reacting in the way they always do.

Mass vaccinations are like the third rail of humanistic belief.

Doctors today have absolutely no idea that babies are NOT delivered by storks. Nor do they grasp that immunity from dear old mom protects infants and toddlers long enough for them to develop their own immune systems. It has for however many centuries man has inhabited the earth.

Injecting infants and toddlers with germs before they are capable of immune defenses sucks.

But...Every Child By Two is a leftist creation and the left is insensible when humanistic endeavors are challenged for their validity and prudence.


Harold the Hairy,

Dr. Wakefield is still a doctor because he achieved a doctorate of medicine at University and therefore it is appropriate that he be addressed as such. The license to practice medicine within any given territory is independent of that title.


How come you are all still refering to Andrew Wakefield as "Doctor" when he's been struck off and is therefore no longer a doctor?

What a shame that Stephanopolous, who was once so admired for his discerning mind, has become a talking head for the Orwellian "Ministry of Truth."

Maybe it's time he re-reads 1984. If he does perhaps he'll recognize his own transformation.

Or maybe that's not necessary. Maybe he has made a conscious and lucrative choice to spew corporate proganda.

I can't tell you how much reading this angered me! All he did was accuse Wakefield!! He didn't even let him defend himself!! This isn't news!!! I would expect something like this from something like John Stewert or Steven Colbert but someone like George should know better!!! There was nothing balanced about this!! He didn't get to tell his own side, he didn't even really get to talk!! I am disgusted, and whether you are on one side or the other of this debate, everyone should!! They allowed the arguments of Deer and Offit without mentioning THEIR conflicts of interest, yet proceeded to attack Wakefield?! I expect better from a national news program! This was a hachet job! Way to go GMA! You have just lost yourself several viewers! I think I need to go have another chamomille tea, I'm shaking! Just wow!!! The arrogance, the mudslinging and the condescension I could feel just from reading those words! George you got some balls!!

The fact that Brian Deer misrepresented Child 1's ear infection at 9 months as the child's first symptom of autism shows that Deer is dishonest. Medical records show that the mother reported a discharge from Child 1's ear at the same time she talked about his hearing problem.

Deer concealed the ear infection simply to put Child 1's autism before his MMR. Temporary hearing loss due to an ear infection is not a symptom of autism.

I think the significance of this went completely over Stephanopoulos's head.

I wish that Dr. Wakefield would get permission to reproduce that section of Child 1's medical record. Maybe if Wakefield puts it on the nose of one of these TV bobbleheads, he'll be able to figure out what it means.

Two thumbs down for George Stephanopolous!

I thought as a journalist you were supposed to get the story and let viewers form their own opinion. Not invite a guest on the show- berate them, dismiss them and try to sway your audience. We are all capable of thinking for ourselves George.
Stick to the story, facts (real ones), and let the viewers decide. It is unfortunate that George isn't of the same caliber as Dr. Wakefield.

The world would be a better place with healthy children if all Drs. were as pure as Dr. Wakefield. The truth will come out!

I never watch GMA and I'm not going to start now. I find this attack on Wakefield so desperate and sad. Nobody is taking these dirty vaccines and people have figured out the vaccines are a hoax.

Dr. Wakefield is not the problem. The problem is the problem!

Thank you, Dr. Wakefield, for everything you have done and continue to do for our children!

Oh Kathy Blanco:
If only it were true about the threats to violence

and that statement about low cognitive complexity in thinking patterns, reasoning flaws, I am afraid that is true of me! It took me way to long to figure it out.

Jenny Allen - Don't be to frustrated with your motherly little interviewer shouting get those MMRs - the British citizen seems pretty smart. Didn't a bunch of you all throw vials of anthrax-sequalene vaccine overboard on your second trip to Iraq? Hmmm I thinks so. Good show!

"60 years ago, doctors were among the most revered people"...well, guess what? People today know that many of the over-inflated egos walking around with stethoscopes around their necks know far less about autism and other rising conditions than many parents.

That particular statement hit me hard, as I went against all my motherly instincts and had my 18-month old vaccinated, mere moments after our know-it-all ped told us he suspected Xander had autism and right after he also rudely informed us that 'the vaccine-autism connection was a load of crap'..real professional, eh? The diagnosis a mere 6 month later? Autism, seizures, learning delays, enlarged brain, cerebral palsy and IBD.

Sorry, but the prov-vax mantra of 'correlation does not equal causation" makes me want to punch someone. Mostly Offit.

Wakefield has saved children's lives, not taken them away.

I POSTED THIS ON GMA:

You’ll notice that Stephanopoulos never once called Dr. Wakefield a gastroenterologist nor did he allow Wakefield to describe the bowel problems he observed in these children that followed their MMR vaccinations. Instead he seemed determined to blame Wakefield for starting the whole controversy over vaccines and autism.

GMA had Dr. Besser, Brian Deer, Seth Mnookin and Dr. Paul Offit (who was described only as being the author of “Deadly Choices” –not as someone who’s made millions of dollars

as the co-inventor of a rota virus vaccine) ---all critical of Wakefield. Incredibly, GMA didn’t include Dr. Jon Poling whose daughter was compensated for vaccine-induced autism by Health and Human Services in 2008. Likewise, we didn’t get to hear from Dr. Bernadine Healy, former head of the National Institutes of Health, who believes real studies on vaccine safety haven’t been done.

Stephanopoulos didn’t talk to any of the thousands upon thousands of parents who saw their normally progressing children regress into autism following routine vaccinations.

Stephanopoulos couldn’t manage to find a single parent from the original 12 patients that Wakefield wrote about—not one, even though he accused Wakefield of having changed their medical records.

What would have happened if George Stephanopoulos had included just one of the Lancet parents from this video? Here they describe what the MMR did to their children and that they stand by Dr. Wakefield.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/ziggy/videos/1/

On GMA, one person described Wakefield’s actions as "a conscious effort to mislead people." In truth, the coverage by George Stephanopoulos was exactly that.

Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism

This program is another perfect illustration of how completely dominant the pharmaceutical industry is over the media. The interview was so embarrasingly biased that George should consider retiring. As usual, Dr. Wakefield handled himself fantastically well, under the circumstances. I would certainly recommend that everyone read Dr. Wakefield's book "Callous Disregard", which describes and documents the facts related to the issues. I doubt very much that George read the book carefully with an open mind. ABC and all of the other pharmaceutically dominated media certainly won't give Dr. Wakefield a fair shake.
Michael B Schachter MD, CNS

Previous chapters in the ongoing attempt by the medical establishment to convince the public that Wakefield was the father of *all* vaccine skepticism, and then take him down, therefore debunking the entire movement, must have worked somewhat. It must have moved the needle of public opinion slightly. Else, why continue with this ridiculous line? Wakefield has little to do with the reason so many people are skeptical about the current schedule.

Reasons number one and two for our skepticism about the hefty vaccine schedule were the family on our floor, whose kid is recovered spectrum, who suspected vaccines, and the kid on our best friend's floor, spectrum, whose mother felt the same way. Good people we've known a long time, they have no interest in conspiracy theories. And oh, the way their pediatricians treated them when they brought it up!

Most people who make the decision we made have the same sorts of reasons we do. Some British doctor has nothing to do with it. Maybe smearing Dr. Wakefield further will move the public opinion needle slightly. But it is a desperate and futile move. At some point the establishment will have to acknowledge parental concerns and observations, and grant parents some flexibility and freedom.

Hard hitting journalism....puhleze... did anyone see what this lady saw? I didn't...and I don't think I am alone.

MedPage and ABC

A Very Good Morning, America

By: Peggy Peck  |  January 17, 2011

In general, morning television is the last place that one expects to find hard-hitting journalism. But a hard-hitting report is just what Good Morning America served up with the morning coffee on this Monday morning.

In the interest of full disclosure, I will point out that MedPage Today does have an on-going collaborative relationship with ABC News and, as part of that relationship, MedPage Today has produced several co-branded segments for Good Morning America Weekend. And, as those who have read my editorial No Doubt About It know, I have my own opinions about vaccines and autism.

Okay, now that the disclosure is out of the way, I want to say that watching the GMA report on the Wakefield fraud had me jump right out of my chair, do a punch fist in the air, and shout "Yes!"

The show set up the segment with a no-holds-barred report from ABC Senior Health and Medical Editor Richard Besser, MD, who laid out the facts of the fraud in simple terms with compelling video, including a clip from Brian Deer, the journalist whose investigation of Wakefield was published in the BMJ. Deer had this to say: "I think what Dr. Wakefield did was a moral crime, if not an actual crime."

The Besser report was followed by an interview done by GMA co-host George Stephanopoulos, and there was one hardball after another. He started the interview by introducing Wakefield as the author of a new book, Callous Disregard, that is being promoted as "the truth" behind the controversy, but drops this into the question, "Dr. Besser stated your case pretty well --10 of your 12 fellow authors in the the journal retracted it [Lancet paper], your license to practice medicine has been revoked, and last week the British Medical Journal concluded this: they say clear evidence of falsification of data should now close the door on [your] damaging vaccine scare. Given all of this, why should anyone trust what you have to say about this matter?"

Stephanopoulos kept up the pressure throughout the interview, but my favorite line was when Wakefield admonished Stephanapoulos to "check your facts" and Stephanopoulos shot back, "I read the study and your book."

And even when Stephanopoulos had Wakefield on the ropes, he didn't let up the pressure. In response to Wakefield's favorite parry: an attack on Deer's credibility, Stephanopoulos intoned, "He is not alone, sir. He is not alone. You've had your medical license revoked in Great Britain. They charged you with dishonesty. The Lancet retracted the study. The [BMJ] stands behind Mr. Deer's findings. These people are not alone."

You said it, George.

And you are not alone either.


http://www.medpagetoday.com/Blogs/24375

This is a good example of how vaccines became accepted without question. GEORGE simply SAYS something and we are supposed to believe it. The CDC SAYS vaccines are safe and effective and we are supposed to believe it.

If you substitute CDC for GEORGE and Parents for Wakefield, you can see how it goes ...... we studied it....we have a journal article....we have sick and dying children....we have science.... we have smart doctors.....vaccines ARE good, just shut up and listen!!! All that you silly parents have is your own two eyes! THE FACTS BE DAMNED!!!

It’s hard to imagine myself being a bigger fan of Dr. Wakefield than I already am. Watching him take the hit for things he never did while, being blamed for the “rising rates” of parents who opt-out of vaccines, along with the “deaths” of these parents’ children is difficult to tolerate. The Hungry Lie has a seemingly bottomless appetite.

In 1956, when my parents opted out of vaccinating my siblings and myself for polio, Andrew Wakefield was only a child. In 1975, when my child was born and I opted out of vaccination for ‘anything’, Andrew Wakefield was probably doing his internship. In 1998, when my grandson was born and his parents opted out of vaccines, Andrew Wakefield was nowhere on our radar. We never reasoned that we were protected against disease by the ‘herd’ around us. What my parents understood over 5 decades ago is that disease is less about the germ and more about the host. For the record, my family has no chronic disease, no hospitalizations for illness, no prescription drug use, no shots.

What we knew about vaccines was as true then as it is today. How any medical authority can believe that inoculating a child makes them “healthy” is unfathomable to me. Dr. Wakefield is a voice of reason in a sea of madness. Thank you, kind sir. Galileo was absolved by the Church SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS after his death. We can only hope your absolution occurs in our lifetimes, and in yours.

I took my babies to well-baby care, they were vaccinated and they were never healthy again.

Your children will get sicker as they get older with vast auto-immune issues.

My children are 26 and 22. They have depression, anxiety, fibromyalgia, bowel problems, respiratory illnesses, ADHD, social anxiety and thyroid disease, too. I am always waiting for the next diagnosis.

They were perfectly healthy and beautiful when they were born. The worst thing I ever did was take them to a pediatrician. I will never forgive myself. Nor will I forgive the pediatricians or the government for their unconscionable mandates enforced by the courts and the school systems.

My brothers and sisters (8) and I were not vaccinated. We got the measles, mumps and chicken pox and survived to lead healthy lives and then we had children and then came the mandated shots.

Dr. Wakefield you are a hero!

Unfortunately the ink staining the wretches at salon.com is red.

I know who I believe, watch me at the end of the video wrap my banner over Deers face to stop him saying nasty things to the good doctor.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_jRpqLcLbE

I find it fascinating that those on the left, who are the most leery of government colluding with industry have been the most hostile to our community over the past couple of weeks. Look at how Dr. Wakefield was treated by George S at ABC (former Clinton campaign guy), how JB Handley was treated by Eliot Spitzer (former Democrat NY governor and attorney general), and now the example of Salon (which leans left) pulling RFK Jr's "Deadly Immunity" article. The most favorable coverage has been from conservative outlets such as Allisyn Camerota on Fox and Friends and the Steve Malzberg radio show in New York, who interviewed JB last week.

Dr. Wakefield is a brave and honorable man.

A few months ago Dr Wakefield was interviewed on UK television. The programme host was Lorraine Kelly, a fellow Scot and a very popular TV presenter, noted for her motherly warmth and friendly sympathetic matter. The much hyped ITV ‘Daybreak’ was new breakfast time scheduling. The 'Lorraine' programme followed at 8-30am.

Dr Wakefield was in Brussels, having been invited to speak about MMR at the European Parliament. Lorraine arranged for him to discuss the MMR vaccine controversy on her programme, via a live video link to London. Dr Hilary Jones was also present in the ITV studio, having also been invited to promote the pro MMR vaccine stance. I have personally always found TV Doctor Jones to be a particularly sanctimonious and patronising member of the medical fraternity, but with TV programmes we can always switch off or over!!

If this had been purely a Wakefield v Jones interview, it would have been perfectly fair. Dr Wakefield is accustomed to hostile interviewing techniques, and invariably acquits himself well, but I watched with increasing horror as 'sweet reasonable Lorraine' joined in the affray. Both she and Dr Jones constantly interrupted Dr Wakefield, and he had to contend with the two of them hurling accusations at him from both sides at once. He was never given enough time to complete his reasoned logical replies. Lorraine finally interrupted to give the last word, a diatribe extolling parents to make sure their children received the MMR vaccine. I complained to media 'watchdog' Ofcom about the unfair way in which Dr Wakefield was treated, but got nowhere.

I was reminded of all this when I read the transcript of the above interview with host George Stepanopolus;(thanks very much for transcribing). This used the same bullying techniques and interruptions, all intended to 'skew' public perceptions in favour of the vaccinations.

We all owe Dr Wakefield a HUGE dept for putting up with this kind of abuse, (for that is what it is), in order to help our children and prevent future children from unnecessary damage from vaccines. After all, the single measles vaccine was in use in the UK for 20 years, long before MMR and caused far fewer problems. Dr Wakefield simply advocated returning to the older, safer systems of child measles immunisation.

i want to know who is paying DAN AND KELLY LASIK to "speak their minds". to blame their son's meningitis on wakefield is as much of a fraud as brian deer. if they were seriously worried, they could have chosen the hib brand that has only saline, water, and genetically engineered hib. to blame wakefield and then publicly claim it over and over again is sickening.

Is there a list someplace of the amount of pharma money the major networks receive for their advertising ???

How much did ABC make from Vioxx ads before that ended ??? Did they return those funds to affected families ???

The 10 minute "ABC backstory" preceeded Dr. Wakefield's constantly interupted interview was just a bit much...

Thankfully Al Gore invented the internet to perform ABC's job...


soo, someone forward this to me this morning, and I thought it appropriate to share. Mind you, the author discloses that he is in the vaccine industry, and that he has more than a little bent on vaccines *see his notes, due to his financial relationships with them, and here goes...here goes what THEY think of us folks..

Gregory A. Poland, M.D., and Robert M. Jacobson, M.D.
N Engl J Med 2011; 364:97-99
January 13, 2011
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1010594

excerpt :

Today, the spectrum of antivaccinationists ranges from people who are simply ignorant about science (or "innumerate" ­ unable to understand and incorporate concepts of risk and probability into science-grounded decision making) to a radical fringe element who use deliberate mistruths, intimidation, falsified data, and threats of violence in efforts to prevent the use of vaccines and to silence critics. Antivaccinationists tend toward complete mistrust of government and manufacturers, conspiratorial thinking, denialism, low cognitive complexity in thinking patterns, reasoning flaws, and a habit of substituting emotional anecdotes for data.

Isn't it funny that I find that the parents of these children are directly the opposite described here. I have seen many of us with PhD's, some are doctors or nurses, attorneys, and frankly, I take issue with "mommies being dumb"..I just think this is exactly what they think of us. That we can't offer our babies up to the sacrificial God's of pharma? Plueez. Emotional, I will show you emotional!

I issued this public letter re: this interview, hoping to reach at least some of the unaffected public. Formerly I referred to those unaffected as the "majority" but the more folks I interview, the more I live and see what is happening in my own neighborhood I no longer believe the majority are unaffected.

Dear American Public,

Tomorrow you will see the good doctor Wakefield on GMA. Please ask yourself the folowing questions. Why, are we still seeing this man? Why is this news, now?

Please consider that you have not been permitted to hear from the parents whose children he treated. Keep in mind, the GMC brought charges against him, not the parents, whose hearts he held in his hands. Be aware, it is very important for us all to believe that the doc is a sham because his simple suggestion that "more studies are required"... is powerful and potent enough to destroy the pharmaceutical industry as we know it.

If you are once again shown the images of the young man getting "scoped" please keep in mind...this is a STANDARD medical procedure that many children with gatrointestinal disease endure. Just like kids who have cancer go through chemo-therapy, and children with meningitis get spinal taps.

Ask yourselves, truly ask yourselves--why? Why do thousands upon thousands of parents support this man? Is it possible that that many educated, professional parents are choosing denial rather than education when it comes to their child's condition?

Please, for just a moment step back and consider that the pharmaceutical industry did not bank on this many parents getting this many sick kids, being this vocal and educating themselves. They also didn't bank on their very own doctors turning away from them, doing their own research and starting practices that are not controlled by pharmaceutical interests. Worst of all, they did not anticipate that the children these renegade doctors treated, would actually get bettter. Google "DAN" doctors. You will find an impressive list of physicians with thriving practices. Recovery is real. Children are healed. Autism in not psychiatric, it is physical. It is a whole body condition. I implore you, if your life has not yet been touched by autism or auto-immune disorder, or vaccine injury...listen with open ears and open minds to what you will hear tomorrow. Ask yourself what possible interest those of us who support Dr. Wakefield could possibly stand to gain from supporting a fraud? Why would we stay in this? Because we know the truth. Our children are getting better. He is part of the reason why.

Soon, there will be much litigation and turmoil, the sort that will make the historical significance of the cigarette industry/cancer cover up look like nothing more than an unsightly smudge on the great capitalist sweater we previously thought fit perfectly around our form of democracy.

Respectfully,

LJ Goes

Managing Partner, The Misuta Project, LLC

Even bad publicity is good publicity.

The networks would clearly rather say: 'We tried to contact Dr. Wakefield but he declined to be interviewed', as a quick attempt at neutrality. Letting him speak a few half sentences is their nod towards journalistic ethics.

There can not be a doctor alive with a stronger combination of warmness of heart, alertness of mind, and mass of gonad. Particularly the latter.

In George Stepanopolus' interview with Dr. Wakefield there was something that struck me as the main reason behind some trying to destroy Dr. Wakefield's credibility. The following quote is interesting: "The debate around vaccines has really led to the whole field of science taking a hit. That's a shift in our country isn't it?" "Absolutely! 60 years ago doctors and scientists were among the most respected members of society. That is not the case today." I'm afraid the pride of doctors and scientists has a lot to do with trying to silence Dr. Wakefield! Doctors and scientists have never appreciated their opinions being questioned. Often it is the one crying in the wilderness who is eventually proven to be right. Dr. Wakefield's opinion shouldn't be disregarded as an effort to mislead people. I was very disappointed in Mr. Stepanopolus' interview which appeared as a very biased attack - not letting him get a word in edgewise. Normally I think quite highly of George and usually appreciate his interviews, but this one I thought to be very unfair. One should always leave room for the possibility that an opposing point of view might have some validity. It seemed George had already condemned Wakefield before he even spoke.

Apparently no corrections by salon were necessary to the important parts of RFK Jr's article. A short excerpt.

"In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Ga. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session -- only private invitations to 52 attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva, and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines -- thimerosal -- appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. 'I was actually stunned by what I saw,' Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants -- in one case, within hours of birth -- the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children.

Even for scientists and doctors accustomed to confronting issues of life and death, the findings were frightening. 'You can play with this all you want,' Dr. Bill Weil, a consultant for the American Academy of Pediatrics, told the group. The results 'are statistically significant.' Dr. Richard Johnston, an immunologist and pediatrician from the University of Colorado whose grandson had been born early on the morning of the meeting's first day, was even more alarmed. 'My gut feeling?' he said. 'Forgive this personal comment -- I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on.'

But instead of taking immediate steps to alert the public and rid the vaccine supply of thimerosal, the officials and executives at Simpsonwood spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data. According to transcripts obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, many at the meeting were concerned about how the damaging revelations about thimerosal would affect the vaccine industry's bottom line."

Did anyone notice that the famous 14 studies had mysteriously morphed into 12 studies? What happened to the other two? They just went away, without explanation from Big Med or Big Pharm?

And by the way, George Stephanopoulis, it was so obvious you had NOT read the book. All you did was regurgitate pharma's talking points that we've all heard a million times before.

At least ABC let Wakefield speak - even if he didn't get to finish a single sentence before he was assaulted with another false accusation. His answers could not possibly have been heard and digested by Stephanopouls who simply had a script to get through come hell or high water.

Dr. Wakefield stood up to the ranting very well and made excellent points, particularly the example of the child with the ear infection.

Thank you Dr. Wakefield. You prevailed again.

Here is a good interview some of you may appreciate. This mom interviewed Dr. Wakefield and let him finish his sentences and everything. http://www.voiceamerica.com/worldtalkradio/vepisode.aspx?aid=51219

Brings to mind this.

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.

John 3:19-21

I don't see his accusers coming forward to be examined in the light of fair debate in front of the few unbiased journalists left.

Well, it sure sounds like Kathleen has been busy encouraging the media to focus on her message. I find it ironic that people are so willing to slam Jenny and yet will hold up Brian Deer, Seth Mnookin and Dr. Offit as trustworthy people. Deer lies, Mnookin who by his own admission is a former drug addict (amongst other things) and Paul Offit who can't disclose a conflict of interest for the life of him. Has our society really become so warped? Just depressing.

To Dr. Wakefield & his family and all those suffering, I pray that you would all be given the strength to go on and to speak what is true. Bless you all.

Shelly

Another illustration what is happening to our media conglomerates...ABC included.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxL2RYEILSY

Well, if GMA won't fairly offer both sides of a story, I guess one has no choice but to try to find the rest of the story elsewhere. Here is one option:

http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=B9D23224EC0AE34FD5415B72B27B1BE5

It is odd how all this recent talk of toning down the rhetoric and acting more civilly to others seems to have been lost on so many tv "journalists"--who shouldn't actually be part of the rhetoric anyway--they are supposed to be dispassionate questioners, in search of facts and differing opinions and perspectives. Anymore most seem to be no more than loud purveyors of the opinions of their employers/advertisers. I stopped watching tv news for this very reason--it is largely uninformative.

HIB was off of the market during that child's meningitis because of contamination with bacillus cereus, and other fda concerns, why would they attempt to connect Wakefield to this. Dirty journalism , once again. For the most part, I felt Wakefield held onto his honorable responsibilities as a doctor , to do no harm, all the while being raked over by someone who obviously grabbed a briefing by the poisoner (offit/pig virus) and Deer, stalker extraordinaire.

Oh, now I did see the inteview -- it's available at the link in the article above...

I hope AOA has a worst reporter to conduct an interview award this year.

It's going to be a tough race between Anderson Stooper and George Snuffalaffagus.

I did not get to see this, but based on the transcript it sounds like this report started with the typical bullshit story line, and then George took the same approach to the interview as Anderson Cooper did recently, but that Dr. Wakefield was extremely well spoken and managed to get a lot said in spite of the interruptions.

Thank you so much, Dr. Wakefield, for your stamina and backbone and clear intellect.

Reporters and journalists, do your f-ing jobs!!! Stop accepting Brian Deer's words as if they come from a reputable person!!! Stop accepting the pharma/govt spin and look at the conflicts of interest!!! Talk to the Lancet 12 parents!!! It is so bizarre to see this story twisted over and over again.

Thank you, Bob Moffitt, for the transcript.

Don't bother with salon.com; they haven't had anything worth reading in a while.

You can read "Deadly Immunity" here:
http://www.robertfkennedyjr.com/articles.html#

Thanks to Bob Moffitt for the transcript. Thank you Dr. Wakefield. We are all behind you. George Stephanopouls was pathetic.

"Jackie Fletcher has campaigned for compensation for her son Robert – now 18 – because she believed his severe epilepsy was triggered by the jab.

Now a tribunal has ordered that the payment be made, after concluding that it could be 'no coincidence' that he suffered his first seizure 10 days after being vaccinated.

All injections carry the risk of extreme reactions, and in rare cases, children have been left brain-damaged by them.

The Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme does not examine the safety of particular jabs, but the likelihood that the process caused a reaction....Robert Fletcher, from Warrington, in Cheshire, is unable to talk, stand unaided or feed himself. He suffered the effects after being given the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine when he was 13 months old.

In a six-page judgment, the panel which examined the case said: 'Robert was a more or less fit boy who, within the period usually considered relevant to immunisation, developed a severe convulsion ... and he then went on to be epileptic and severely retarded. The seizure occurred ten days after the vaccination. In our view, this cannot be put down to coincidence.'"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7970199/Mother-wins-MMR-payout-after-18-years.html#disqus_thread

Jackie Fletcher is someone Brian Deer frequently maligns.

Yeah, the best they could do was to find parents who "blamed" Dr. Wakefield for their decision to forgo the HiB vaccine? Now those are hysterical parents.

I hope the ridiculous hypocrisy of this "interview" was self-evident to those who are still trying to truly learn the facts.

I e-mailed this a few minutes ago to Good Morning America. I can see from this mornings show that George did not read the book by Dr.Wakefield in detail but yet he is convinced that he did, my conclusion on this is either he doesn't understand or he is like sheep and following the herd which is easy as I see all to often.I don't see both sides to this argument only the side that George wanted to point out.To me this is not the sign of good reporting, rather a sign of biased reporting.How pathetic to have such one sided attack on your show.

Did our fourth branch of government let us down again?

So sorry Dr. Wakefield that you are in the front lines of this fight.

I will call, I will right, I will complain.

But the truth is; that everytime Dr. Wakefield or anyone else is on the news and the message is linked to the words autism and vaccine - we are winning the debate.

Because if you go through 30 years of the words: reaction, vaccine, harmed, autism, it gets people to thinking, and asking and then REACTING.

So this is what we want; I am just sorry it is so hard on Dr. Wakefield.

Thank you Bob Moffitt for the transcript.

Thank you Dr. Wakefield again and again!

It's particularly hard to watch you being blamed for the state of things!

It's the lack of a safety-first approach and lack of true informed consent about what is and is not known about about vaccination that are to blame.

God forgive me for saying this, but I guess they couldn't find anybody whose child died of measles?

I watched this interview this morning and was so disappointed to witness Mr. Stephanopoulos' loss of objectivity as a reporter. Dr. Wakefield was invited to the show, presumably to present his side of the story, and was not allowed to do so by the attacks and interruptions of his interviewer.

Why is it so hard to imagine that a vaccine might be harmful to some children and not to others? That statistical analyses might fail to capture this phenomenon? That controversial findings might trigger a backlash against the researcher? The mystery of autism will remain a mystery until we are open to listening to all sides. I think GMA should invite Dr. Wakefield back and give him the opportunity to present his side since he was so obviously denied this during this first visit.

George: Dr. Wakefield have you stopped beating your wife?

Dr. Wakefield: The truth is..

George .. INTERRUPTING: I knew it. Why did you do it? Thank you very much for being here wife beater.

The reporter's expected opinion DOMINATED THE CONVERSATION. That ain't reporting. It's projection. Projection of a reporter's opinion is not news. This reporter is dishing out another form of violence to the interviewee (Dr Wakefield) and listener (me).

BARK! BARK. Any reporter who does not acknowledge his interviewees point is not in conversation and not looking for honesty. The reporter is only in attack mode. BARK! BARK = Media looking for sensationalism. I don't believe any aware human being would put themselves through this tactic anymore. It's gross negligence. The time is long gone that most people react to this type of reporting just to say, as a listener, "I have an opinion". And I think we all know barking at someone who is not listening is not going to do much.

What matters to people is finding solutions to the issue. I didn't find that here. All I got here was an insult to the lister's integrity and a restatement of the issue. A decade ago, I heard our pediatrician barking too. I switched that off and am so practiced at it that any attempt just makes me puke.

Valiant attempt Dr Wakefield. And again, best to you and your family.

STOP AUTISM NOW


This is the number for ABC news ask for GMA and tell then you want to leave a message.
Phone Number +1.212.456.7777

I am sorry but George, that book took me days to absorb, did you have that much time to absorb the science and the truth and argument? PLUEEZ. I am so sick of these hit jobs, and set up interviews. This is just nuts. Why aren't we taking this to the streets, come on people? Clearly the entire media and US government are afraid of us mommies who THINK, QUESTION, and RESEARCH the real truth. KEEP IT UP!

Wow. George was horrible. He had NOT read Wakefield's book. He had clearly been told what to say. I guess when you are a high paid reporter, you have to rely on what other people tell you instead of fact checking for yourself.

What a joke. Props to Dr. Wakefield for getting up there when he must have known full-well what the "interview" would be like. I do believe though that many people are intelligent enough to recognize an honest testimony. People will see the awkwardness of the attack by George, and if nothing else, remember that there MIGHT be questions about vaccines. Wakefield was nothing but reasonable.

THANK YOU again Dr Wakefield for putting yourself into these stressful situations to set the record straight.

Seems to me they had their narrative all ready to go and then that annoying little stumbling block called truth just keeps popping up.

Every time these fools rush to judgement they invalidate themselves to a wider and wider audience.


Just another hit job. George ask question. Dr. Wakefield responds. George does not respond with any interest to Dr. Wakefields response but instead denies what Dr. Wakefield says and claims that the evidence is against him. No deeper penetration or inquiry into Dr. Wakefields comments on the part of George. At one point I actually thought I saw George reading from a prompter his response, no lie!
By dismissing Dr. Wakefield and then trying to embarrass him, I believe they think they will win this argument.
That might have worked years ago before the numbers for autism kept rising. But the numbers continue to rise. The schools are inundated and the denials of the epidemic are no longer working.

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