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Posted by Age of Autism at March 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM
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Daniel- Thank you, you represent my intentions on this forum well. Often people with my questions and desire for more evidence are beaten down for questioning the prevailing opinion, or comments are simply not posted (trust me, I've had my fair share blocked.) People like me are here reading and learning because we have the same goal -- finding out what is best for our kids.
Teresa- Yes, I would like the gratification of knowing the causes of autism, unexplained sudden death, type I diabetes. I do desire this, just like we all do. Thanks for the dictionary.com link, though.
The one-sentence references to the CDC activity explains nothing scientifically, and a link to the NVIC and an article written by Barbara Loe Fisher cannot be used as proof for causation, just like people can't state, "Vaccines DON'T cause autism" because Paul Offit and Orac said so. These are all just individual people, all of whom are biased. My original request was for evidence, unbiased and strongly demonstrative of a source and cause.
A friend- You seem to allude to vaccines being a causative agent of Type I diabetes. In the same way as above, what evidence can you provide that would support this?
Thank you, I hope this response gets posted and I don't get destroyed for asking questions.
March 31, 2010 at 08:45 AM
THANKS TO kIM AND A OF A STAFF FOR THE BLOG ABOUT JESSICA. ITS BEEN TWO YEARS AND IT HASN'T BEEN ANY EASIER TO COPE. NOT JUST LOSING HER BUT NOT KNOWING WHAT KILLED HER IS THE HARDEST THING. WE CRY EVERY TIME WE THINK OF HER, SOME DAYS YOU JUST CAN'T SEEM TO GET IT OUT OF YOUR MIND ALL DAY. BEING IN THE MEDICAL FIELD AND WORKING AT THE HOSPITAL THAT ADMINISTERED HER GARDASIL SHOT MAKES IT TOUGH. WE HAVE LOST TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN THE SAFETY OF ANY DRUG AND YES I BLAME THE DOCTORS TOO. FOR NOT WARNING OF THE SIDE EFFECTS,FOR NOT PROPER SCREENING BEFORE THE VACCINE, FOR NOT REPORTING EVERY SIDE EFFECT TO VAERS AND TELLING THE PATIENT WHAT VAERSIS AND WHY ITS IMPORTANT TO REPORT ADVERSE REACTIONS. FOR PROTECTING THE INDUSTRY WHEN THEY THEMSELVES HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHATS SAFE AND WHAT ISN'T. GARDASIL KILLS AND WE ARE BEING IGNORED FOR PROFIT,POWER,INFLUENCE AND GREED. CASE CLOSED
March 30, 2010 at 01:46 PM
@Nora, your comment really got to me. I had to hold back my own...and thank you.
"I weep for the loss these parents must face everyday, I weep for the many families dealing with vaccine injuries, I weep for my grandson."
March 29, 2010 at 02:37 PM
I am so sickened I can't even speak! On Wenesday I wear blue for Autism Awareness Day. I will wear it honor of not myself, but all those who have suffered far more than I ever could. For all those in the hab centers, in the institutions, who lost thier God given right to lead thier own lives due to greed and fear. I will continue to stand like a wall for those who have been trampled on for far to long.
God Bless my autistic brother and sisters, and God Bless the Gardasil girls! One day, we shall prevail. And then may the truth ring from the moutain tops and rain down from the heavens! How many more will have to die or be come so incapictated to lead a quality of life so low that a kitten has a better chance before this stops!! HOW MANY MORE!!!
Darian (nickname) |
March 29, 2010 at 01:04 PM
MY HEART IS TRULY BLEEDING FOR THE ERICKSON FAMILY. WHAT CAN I SAY TO TAKE AWAY YOUR PAIN...PLEASE BELIEVE THAT SHE IS WITH GOD AND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED. I KNOW THE PAIN CAN NEVER GO AWAY BUT I PRAY THE LORD BRINGS PEACE TO EVERYONE IN JESSICAS FAMILY WHO LOVED HER SO DEARLY.
I CAME SO CLOSE TO LOSING MY DAUGHTER TO GARDASIL AS WELL THIS SUMMER. SHE ENDED UP WITH A BRAIN INFLAMATION AND SEIZURES AND WAS IN THE INTENSIVE CARE UNIT ALMOST THE ENTIRE MONTH OF AUGUST. I STILL WORRY EVERY DAY IS SHE WILL EVER FULLY RECOVER. MY PRAYERS ARE FOR JESSICA THIS EVENING. BEING A GARDASIL MOM I PROMISE WE WILL NEVER FORGET HER. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU
March 28, 2010 at 10:58 PM
The courage exhibited by the families of Gardisil girls is tremendous. It is so important to portray these young girls as they were - healthy, vibrant young women. Sadly, just as the authorities portray parents of vaccine injured young children as anti-vaccine lunies, it's not surprising they are already at work planting seeds of doubt about the Gardisil girls. I've seen commentary like these girls had raging hormones, some undetermined underlying health issues, were possibly psycho teen girls. Don't let them get away with it!
Keep showing the world your images and sharing stories of your beautiful daughters. This tragedy needs to stop, just as the brain damage caused by vaccines given to young children needs to stop. At a minimum informed consent to vaccination where the true risks are presented needs to be practiced.
Gone but not forgotten, Jessica. God bless all the Gardisil girls and their families.
March 28, 2010 at 08:17 PM
SO so sorry for your loss. What an unbelievable shame. What's so much worse is that it didn't have to happen.
I spread the word about Gardasil everywhere I go these days. I don't have any girls, but I'm glad to report that my teenage niece has managed to steer clear. I was worried, as her mom (a NP) is decidedly pro-vax.
I guess even those in favor of the crazy vaccine schedule can occasionally weigh risk/benefit in favor of no shot, thank goodness.
Best to you and yours during this unbelievably trying time,
Daniel Park |
March 28, 2010 at 07:52 PM
Okay, guys, this has been bugging me for a while.
Paul's comment may have been somewhat poorly worded, but I did not pick up a "troll vibe" from it. He wasn't being openly disrespectful, just skeptical.
Can we please not rip the face off every individual who demonstrates a healthy skepticism regarding a particular post? Lord knows I wish I'd exercised a bit more skepticism when my pediatrician broke out the needle...
Yes, we get our share of trolls on this site (a lot of peoples' share, actually), but at the same time, I don't want to scare off reasonable people who arrive here a bit skeptical, but willing to consider our point of view. Otherwise, AoA will end up only preaching to the choir, and I can only think that would be a real shame.
Let's try to give folks the benefit...
Daniel Park |
March 28, 2010 at 07:39 PM
My daughter was disabled by Gardasil. Tim and Lisa, my heart goes out to you. I have no idea of what you go through after the death of a child. I pray for you and the other parents afflicted with such pain after Gardasil. Because so many families have been harmed and girls have been disabled and died, we have setup a website.
It is WWW.TRUTHABOUTGARDASIL.ORG. You can read stories of more girls who died as a result of Gardasil.
If you or your child has been injured, please contact us at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Rosemary Mathis |
March 28, 2010 at 07:17 PM
This site was on my e-mail this afternoon when I got on to check. Thank you Leslie.
Yesterday was again another sad day for our family as it was the day our beloved Jess would have been 20 years old. Where would she have been if she were still with us? Off to collage with her best friend to become a state trooper or would she have changed her mind. I doubt that as Jessie was always so sure of what she wanted to become. That is who she was. Always thinking of and wanting to help others. Yesterday her mom and I sent up balloons to celebrate her day. We were so proud of her as she was an exceptional person. Loved by everyone who knew her. We are so thankful we had her if only for a little while. She was my only beloved granddaughter. SHINE ON MISS JESS. Grandma Dennie
Denise Melton |
March 28, 2010 at 02:22 PM
Little girls mysteriously dropping dead after getting Gardisil and complaining the next day about "pain in the back of my head" and Paul wants to be "indulged."
See, these girls can already speak and tell parents what hurts, in direct contrast to little infants who have no voice to complain that their heads hurt too.
Ugh, I feel sick.
March 28, 2010 at 09:51 AM
Kristina, thanks for the sample law school exam question. Very interesting --especially the point you make about protecting Merck's name. I think it just further demonstrates the priorities of the government, media, etc.: the manufacturers are king and the "patients" are the lowest. Almost any other scenario like this would have had people screaming about privacy rights.
Meredith DiLiberto |
March 28, 2010 at 08:53 AM
I weep for the loss these parents must face everyday, I weep for the many families dealing with vaccine injuries, I weep for my grandson.
March 28, 2010 at 02:26 AM
What a beautiful girl. That picture along speaks of the unbearable cost of these "health" programs which accept collateral. I suppose someone in theory could justify it-- until faced with that photo. And if they still kept trying to justify it, they're not human, they're just sociopathic criminals. It's not alright! It's not.
March 27, 2010 at 09:45 PM
I will be praying healing thoughts for this beautiful young woman's family.
Any of you who pray ... Please also pray for the families of Trent Nicholson and Jesse Alswager. Within the past few weeks these two young men (under 18) passed away from complications of type 1 diabetes - (DIB, Dead in Bed which for us in the type 1 diabetes world means a low blood sugar level in the middle of the night is suspected to have killed the person). This is one of the greatest fears of parents of children with diabetes. These are just the two recent ones... I have been hearing more and more of these deaths recently...
It does make me wonder about if this is going to be an ongoing trend in our community (in this case, type 1 diabetes)... The sheer numbers of children being diagnosed have risen so sharply that I suppose it is not so surprising that these tragedies will also continue to rise.
When are they going to stop poisoning our babies?
A Friend |
March 27, 2010 at 09:31 PM
Paul, next time take a moment and actually spell out "Rest In Peace."
My condolences to the family of Jessica Ericzon. I'm sorry that you were so brutally let down by government, industry, and the health care profession.
March 27, 2010 at 07:19 PM
What a beautiful girl.
Here's a bit of evidence, Paul -
March 27, 2010 at 06:52 PM
The link that "Not an MD" posted doesn't work. Here is is: http://law.nyu.edu/ecm_dlv2/groups/public/@nyu_law_website__llm_jsd__graduate_affairs/documents/documents/ecm_pro_059857.pdf
It is a law school exam question. It's kind of weird how the question used Jessica's real full name, but changed the name of Merck to "Rork," and changed Gardasil to "Protecquad."
March 27, 2010 at 06:20 PM
I find it nonchalant and beyond rude of you to discuss this girl's death as a 'let me be indulged'.
v. in·dulged, in·dulg·ing, in·dulg·es
1. To yield to the desires and whims of, especially to an excessive degree; humor.
a. To yield to; gratify: indulge a craving for chocolate.
b. To allow (oneself) unrestrained gratification:"
I find your desire to be indulged as a sign of zero understanding in this tragedy, one that many of us have experienced as our children have been "lost" to vaccines. It also shows a lack of respect and compassion.
" Livingstone reported Jessie's death to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System.
Run by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it has collected 8,000 reports of problems after Gardasil shots, including paralysis, seizures and miscarriages."
"As of January 31, 2010, there have been 49 U.S. reports of death among females who have received Gardasil."
What is your purpose here, Paul? Your link to your name didn't work. Where should it have linked to?
Teresa Conrick |
March 27, 2010 at 11:07 AM
This is so senseless. My condolences to Ericzon family.
So, the Center for Damage Control (CDC) sees "no pattern or connection" after looking at data, numbers, statistics...did they even bother talking to the families?
How about stopping the number crunching and go and interview the victims family members, read the autopsy reports, looks at the blood tests etc then maybe they'll find a clue why young girls in their prime are dropping dead after this shot. Do your goddamn jobs!
March 27, 2010 at 11:03 AM
RIP. I will always remember Jessica, even though I never had the pleasure of meeting her. I thank Jessica's mother for having the courage and strength to let the world know what happened to her daughter. I intend to keep my children far away from this unsafe vaccine. I learned at a vaccine conference in 10/09, that the FDA scientists did not want Gardasil approved, and that the amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate used as an adjuvant in Gardasil is far more potent than the alum salt adjuvants in other vaccines. The FDA approved Gardasil over the objection of their own scientists. I am sorry that no one is informed of this before they are urged to vaccinate their children with this potentially deadly or disabling vaccine.
Several months ago, I found, quite by accident, that Jessica has had a great impact on others, too -- namely some budding legal minds. I hope that I am not offending Jessica's mother by posting this, as that is definitely not my intention. I respect her so very much, and I am saddened greatly by her loss. By posting this, I am illustrating what is so wrong with our country. There is a blatant lack of respect for the vaccine injured, and vaccine killed that must be remedied. Shame on these heartless, soulless people!
The following sickens me:
Not an MD |
March 27, 2010 at 11:00 AM
There is not Rest in peace for anyone when someone dies at the prime of their life such a sense lesssss reason!!!! In this case she was not even protecting the herd.
The first post by benmyson answers your question.
March 27, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Please how can we send this picture to the villians in this tragedy?
Tom Insel who is the head of the IACC and has some power is who I think of first.
March 27, 2010 at 09:48 AM
But just to be indulged, what exactly is the evidence that Gardasil was the cause of her death?
March 27, 2010 at 09:31 AM
My heart goes out to the Ericzon's.
March 27, 2010 at 08:49 AM
From July 20, 2008:
" Jefferson County Medical Examiner Samuel Livingstone reported Jessie's death to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System.
Run by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it has collected 8,000 reports of problems after Gardasil shots, including paralysis, seizures and miscarriages.
Seventeen other deaths following the vaccine have been reported since Merck & Co. introduced it in 2006.
Officials have confirmed 11 of the reported deaths so far, said CDC spokesman Curtis Allen.
They have found "no pattern or connection" to Gardasil in eight deaths and are still reviewing three, he said.
Lisa Ericzon now feels her daughter was "a guinea pig" for Gardasil, and is urging parents to research the vaccine before letting their daughters get it.
"I want other mothers to know," said Lisa, the first parent of a girl who died after Gardasil to speak publicly.
"I don't want them to go through what I went through."
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_i4nmIcAdDoQtE4ubmxqGVM;jsessionid=CFC7A0A3A198943D5EF3EAB3860B3E9A#ixzz0jNf1k2XW
March 27, 2010 at 08:48 AM
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