Unvaccinated Children Madness

By J.B. Handley
 
If you want to make someone who defends our current bloated vaccine schedule and believes the science proves vaccines don't cause autism go bonkers, just mention unvaccinated kids.
 
How else to explain some of the altogether nutty things that have come out of the mouths of the vaccine schedule's designated defenders?
 
I'll start with the gold-standard for goofy-speak from Julie Gerberding, an answer so classic it should be entombed for posterity, triggered by a great question from our very own Dan Olmsted. 
 
Dan Olmsted: Has the government ever looked at the autism rate in an unvaccinated U.S. population, and if not, why not?

Julie Gerberding: In this country, we have very high levels of vaccination as you probably know, and I think this year we have record immunization levels among all of our children, so to (select an unvaccinated group) that on a population basis would be representative to look at incidence in that population compared to the other population would be something that could be done.

But as we're learning, just trying to look at autism in a community the size of Atlanta, it's very, very difficult to get an effective numerator and denominator to get a reliable diagnosis.

I think those kind of studies could be done and should be done. You'd have to adjust for the strong genetic component that also distinguishes, for example, people in Amish communities who may elect not to be immunized (and) also have genetic connectivity that would make them different from populations that are in other sectors of the United States. So drawing some conclusions from them would be very difficult.

I think with reference to the timing of all of this, good science does take time, and it's part of one of the messages I feel like I've learned from the feedback that we've gotten from parents groups this summer (in) struggling with developing a more robust and a faster research agenda, is let's speed this up. Let's look for the early studies that could give us at least some hypotheses to test and evaluate and get information flowing through the research pipeline as quickly as we can.

So we are committed to doing that, and as I mentioned, in terms of just measuring the frequency of autism in the population some pretty big steps have been taken. We're careful not to jump ahead of our data, but we think we will be able to provide more accurate information in the next year or so than we've been able to do up to this point. And I know that is our responsibility.

We've also benefited from some increased investments in these areas that have allowed us to do this, and so we thank Congress and we thank the administration for supporting those investments, not just at CDC but also at NIH and FDA.
*  *
 
I'm sure Julie Gerberding had a point with her answer, for the life of me I don't know what it was.
 
Not to be outdone, Dr. Paul Offit recently got into the act with his own perspective on studying unvaccinated children (at least he concedes the studies don't exist):
 
"No studies have compared the incidence of autism in vaccinated, unvaccinated, or alternatively vaccinated children (i.e., schedules that spread out vaccines, avoid combination vaccines, or include only select vaccines). These studies would be difficult to perform because of the likely differences among these 3 groups in health care seeking behavior and the ethics of experimentally studying children who have not received vaccines."
 
Health care seeking behavior? Ethics of studying kids who haven't gotten vaccines?
 
Let me get this straight: we have the most complex and raging health epidemic amongst our kids in modern times, and no plausible explanation for cause from the mainstream authorities. Meanwhile, we have tens of thousands of case reports of kids regressing into autism after vaccination, but it's just too complicated and unethical to study unvaccinated kids?
 
"Health care seeking behavior" is the notion that parents who do not vaccinate their children may be less inclined to seek an autism diagnosis if there is a problem with their child's development. Fair enough, that MAY be true. But, in a well-designed study that issue could be dealt with in a very straightforward way: you independently evaluate every single kid for neurological disorders. Would that be expensive? Yes. Would it be thorough? Yes. Would it mitigate any issues related to health seeking behavior? Yes.
 
It's also interesting to consider a study completed by the CDC and published in Pediatrics, Children Who Have Received No Vaccines: Who Are They and Where Do They Live? The study noted:

"Unvaccinated children tended to be white, to have a mother who was married and had a college degree, to live in a household with an annual income exceeding $75,000, and to have parents who expressed concerns regarding the safety of vaccines and indicated that medical doctors have little influence over vaccination decisions for their children."
And, it continues:

"Why do some parents avoid vaccinating their children? Our results indicate that parents of unvaccinated children are much more concerned about vaccine safety than are parents whose children receive 1 vaccine dose. In a survey of parent's beliefs and practices regarding vaccinations and autism, siblings in families in which there was an autistic child were 3 times more likely to be unvaccinated, compared with siblings in families in which there was a child with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. In response to concerns about the perceived risk of autism resulting from vaccinations, parents might have avoided having their sons vaccinated at a higher rate than their daughters, as a result of knowing that they have risk factors for autism and knowing that the rate of autism is 4 times greater for boys than for girls."

What are the chances that white, upper middle-class families with an annual income in excess of $75,000 who are very concerned about vaccine safety don't pursue an autism diagnosis if their child is exhibiting the signs of autism? Probably close to nil, but science can still account for that.
 
Meanwhile, the only data that has ever considered unvaccinated children was done through a phone survey funded by Generation Rescue, the results are available here:
 
http://www.generationrescue.org/survey.html
 
Generation Rescue analyzed the data provided by SurveyUSA, and a copy of our analysis can be found here. The most notable results of our survey are with the boys, which is not surprising considering boys represent approximately 80% of total cases of NDs. Namely:
 
All vaccinated boys, compared to unvaccinated boys:
 
- Vaccinated boys were 155% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.55)
- Vaccinated boys were 224% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.24)
- Vaccinated boys were 61% more likely to have autism (RR 1.61)
 
Older vaccinated boys, ages 11-17 (about half the boys surveyed), compared to older unvaccinated boys:
 
- Vaccinated boys were 158% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.58)
- Vaccinated boys were 317% more likely to have ADHD (RR 4.17)
- Vaccinated boys were 112% more likely to have autism (RR 2.12)
 
(Note: older children may be a more reliable indicator because many children are not diagnosed until they are 6-8 years old, and we captured data beginning at age 4.)
 
One final point: the mainstream will never do a study of unvaccinated kids. They already fear what it will show, and the results for them would likely be cataclysmic. Their best bet is to invent reasons the study can't be done. It will be our community that will have to fund this study. It won't be cheap (my guess is $4-6 million). And, it will have to be constructed in such a way and managed by scientists in such a way that it has widespread credibility. When and how do we get from here to there?

J.B. Handley is co-founder of www.generationrescue.org and a contributor to Age of Autism.

Comments

[patrons99]

The endpoints studied in the definitive prospective vaccinated versus unvaccinated study should probably include fMRI (functional MRI) assessment of brain, heart, and gut (splancnic) function.

The ideal biomarker may not yet have been identified. No effort should be spared to identify an ideal biomarker for identifying, specifying, and quantifying both clinical and subclinical vaccine-induced injury in humans.

See the comments re: fMRI of Eileen Nicole Simon in this AoA thread:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/07/new-study-shows-vaccines-cause-brain-changes-found-in-autism.html

[patrons99]

We have to do the research ourselves! We should set up our own analytical labs and begin our own analyses of each marketed inoculation. We should conduct our own pre-clinical and clinical studies of each marketed vaccine. FDA, CDC, and WHO, have abandoned us quite some time ago. They cannot be trusted.

We will have to design, conduct, analyze, and fund, the definitive prospective study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated humans. No one else can be trusted to do the definitive study. A several million dollar price tag is not beyond our grasp.

In the meantime, we should begin doing more pilot studies in rats and in non-human primates. For example, why not prospectively do a double blinded, placebo controlled study with 6 arms. Subjects would be randomized to a (a) placebo, (b) the pediatric and adult vaccine schedules adjusted by body weight, ( c) thimerosal-only arm, adjusted by body weight, (d) aluminum-only arm, adjusted by body weight, (e) thimerosal plus aluminum arm, adjusted by body weight, and (f) naturopathic-only arm. The endpoints studied could include mortality, neurodevelopmental milestones, cerebral perfusion and viability imaging, DNA hypomethylation, inflammatory cytokines, neuroimmune peptides, immunohistopathology, etc.

[Michael McLaughlin]

The best way would be to draft a request for contributions to fund a study of unvaccinated Children signed by five the highest profile advocates you know of. Then address it to President Obama and copy it to the Forbes 400 richest Americans.
http://www.forbes.com/wealth/forbes-400

Publish the letter on various autism web sites as an open letter to President Obama.

[tom]

innumeracy. google it.

[Tony Bateson]

We will have to wait for hell to freeze over while global warming drowns us before the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical industry will agree to a comparative study on autism and the unvaccinated population.

That is because there is no autism in unvaccinated populations. In Britain we have three millions unvaccinated and as far as anyone can tell none of them is autistic. The medics know that only the poor idiot world at large doesn't know it!

You could run a study in the UK at far less cost than in the highly vaccinated US. I would be happy to join in an appeal to raise funds for such a project. I have helped raise over $65 miilions for other causes in the last twenty years.

Tony Bateson
www.tonybateson.com
Oxford, UK

[JBB]

Um, why isn't this done if $4 to $6 million is the only stumbling block?

Jim Carrey could use his salary from about 2 days of his next movie.

Oprah probably makes $6 million in the time it takes her to take a poop in the morning.

There are a lot of very wealthy people with kids who have ASD or who are connected to the call.

I gave money to the Ron Paul money bomb. $5 million in one day from a candidate who got about 1% of the primary vote. This post has been around since Feb and is still just an idea or progress has been made?

To me, NOT DOING THIS ASAP, make it look like WE are the ones afraid of the results.

[JBB]

Has anyone thought of asking Jim Carrey for the cash?

Jim per movie ...

Bruce Almighty (2003) $25,000,000

How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000) $20,000,000 + merchandising

Me, Myself & Irene (2000) $20,000,000

Man on the Moon (1999) $20,000,000

The Truman Show (1998) $12,000,000

Liar Liar (1997) $20,000,000

The Cable Guy (1996) $20,000,000

[Brenda Gambee]

My kids are all suffering through Whooping cough. They are not vaccinated. This has caused me to do a lot of rresearch because of the greif I have been given. Boy am I thankful for this experience! I think most people just do what ever their Dr tells them to do and they have full trust in them. I am thankful that I did my own research. Origanly I did just do what my Dr and Midwife told me to do which was not to vaccinate. So when I started getting swormed with questions and e-mails about why I should be vaccinating I did my research and found out that I am SO thankful I trusted in the right people. My kids are find and had the immune systems they need to fight off this sickness. O my gosh my kids are all fine and even better they are now naturaly vaccinated! Amazing what you learn if you just do a little research on your own.

[Todd D. Gastaldo, DC]

THE ELUSIVE-OBVIOUS VACCINE FRAUD...

Attention US ATTORNEY KARIN J. IMMERGUT, US Attorney for the District of Oregon (via karin.immergut@usdoj.gov;bob.nesler@usdoj.gov;neil.evans@usdoj.gov):

Please immediately END the elusive-obvious vaccine fraud.

Vaccinations are NOT immunizations. Vaccinations are ATTEMPTED
immunizations. Many children are not immunized by their vaccinations - yet
MDs behave as if their vaccinations are 100% effective - telling parents seeking vaccine exemptions that only THEIR children will be
sent home during disease outbreaks - only THEY will have to bear the
financial burden of staying home from work and/or hiring tutors during
disease outbreaks.

THE ELUSIVE-OBVIOUS: Many children are not immunized by their vaccinations - so ALL children need to be sent home during disease outbreaks...

It's organized medicine's elusive-obvious VACCINATION PROMOTION FRAUD...

CDC's maximum vaccination cheerleader Deborah Wexler, MD offers the fraud this way:

"What if you don't [vaccinate] your child?...During disease outbreaks,
[unvaccinated] children may be excluded from school or child care until the
outbreak is over...for their own protection...This causes hardship for the
child and parent."
--Wexler's Immunization Action Coalition/IAC
http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4017.htm

Again that ELUSIVE OBVIOUS: Many children are not immunized by their vaccinations so ALL children need to be sent home during disease outbreaks - "for their own protection" to quote Dr. Wexler. More on this below.

Here is the fraudulent vaccination promotion as stated by the largest
pediatric trade union:

"Parents should be advised of state laws...which may require that
[unvaccinated] children stay home from school during outbreaks."
--American Academy of Pediatrics/AAP^^^

^^^From Informing patients and parents. In: Pickering LK, ed. 2000 Red Book:
Report of the Committee on Infectious Diseases, 25th ed. Elk Grove Villiage,
IL: American Academy of Pediatrics 2000:4. Quoted in Frederickson et al.
Pediatric Annals. (Jul)2001;30:401

America's pediatricians ask parents to SIGN the obvious fraud:

"If my child does not receive the vaccine(s)...consequences may
include...the need for my child to stay out of daycare or school during
disease outbreaks."
--American Academy of Pediatrics 2002
http://www.cispimmunize.org/pr o/pdf/RefusaltoVaccinate2.doc

THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION

Since many children are not immunized by their
vaccinations, ALL parents should be told that ALL children will be sent home
during disease outbreaks.

**MORE** ELUSIVE-OBVIOUS VACCINE FRAUD

(More fraudulent vaccination promotion.)

Failure to obtain informed consent is a crime. (see THOR quoted below.)

MDs openly ADMIT they aren't obtaining informed consent...

Mark D. Fox, MD, PhD. wrote of "the consent charade" in Pediatric Annals. (Jul)2001;30:422-23:

"The thrust of the immunization spiel (as I learned it) is to elicit
*assent* from parents...[L]iterature provided does not disclose risks or
alternatives in sufficient depth to qualify as 'informed' consent.
Moreover, these machinations mimicking [obtaining informed] consent are
employed despite the fact that [vaccinations] are virtually mandatory.
Informed consent...requires not only sufficient information, but also the
presence of legitimate choice...[O]ne could argue we should dispense with
the consent charade..."
--Mark D. Fox, MD, PhD. Pediatric Annals. (Jul)2001;30:422-23

The California Supreme Court wrote in the 1993 case of Daniel
Thor v. The Superior Court of Solano County 93 C.D.O.S. 5658:

"The common law has long recognized this principle: A physician who
performs any medical procedure without the patient's consent commits a
battery irrespective of the skill or care used." [Thor at 5659]

NOTE: Vaccination without consent is a crime even if good vaccinations are used.

MDs and CDC are mostly ANTI-immunization.

MDs and CDC are failing to inform America and the world that breastfeeding
mothers scan their environments for
pathogens and manufacture SPECIFIC IMMUNIZATIONS which automatically appear
in breastmilk.

Breastfeeding mothers immunize their babies DAILY with
specific immunizations.

MDs are mysteriously failing to tell the world that
breastfeeding women are IMMUNIZERS who scan for pathogens and manufacture
specific
IMMUNIZATIONS which they "inject" with their breasts DAILY.

What pregnant woman - explicitly informed that she can IMMUNIZE her baby
daily and (reportedly) make
MD-needle-vaccinations work better - is going to fail to at least ATTEMPT to
breastfeed?

MDs and CDC are missing a golden opportunity to make both the
immunization rate (breastfeeding rate) and vaccination rate skyrocket...

The MD/CDC mass immunologic child abuse crime is massive.

CHIROPRACTIC SILENT

It appears that the chiropractic profession was hijacked to help cover-up medicine's vaccination crime.

See Medicine's Vaccination Subluxation
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2222

(Above text is excerpted, slightly edited, from: QUI TAM: Vaccine fraud: Comedian Jim Carrey missed an elusive-obvious
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/3335

ROBERT KENNEDY JR. ON VACCINATION/FORCED THIMEROSAL: "WORST CRIME SINCE THE COVER-UP OF THE IRAQ WAR"

...“thimerosal generation is the sickest generation in the history of this country. He called it the “worst crime since the cover-up of the Iraq war.”
http://www.vaclib.org/news/2008/green.htm

Copied to Robert Kennedy, Jr. via http://www.robertfkennedyjr.com/# (Click on "Contact")

US ATTORNEY IMMERGUT: The crime is mass immunologic child abuse. Please end it immediately.

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo
Hillsboro, Oregon
USA
todd@chiromotion.com

[jenn]

I too agree we need this study done yesterday. Well we all must advocate for our children because we have their best interest at heart. I too can relate to what someone else posted about the child dying from the flu. On the news 2 times diff. cases neither time was it then or now revealed if they were vaccinated. I am sure they were not because BIG MONEY PHARMA would be all over that. Amazing that important bit of info was left out. What a shocker. The more us parents spread the word about vaccine safety the better our children will be because we care.