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    February 25, 2009

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    john

    Nice work. Diagnosis is an old old 'game' http://whale.to/vaccines/ploy3.html

    Dr Eva Snead sums it up: "They are running a monopoly and they will lie, cheat and steal to keep it that way."

    She missed a few!

    Ray Gallup

    Dr. Oleske found that Eric had T cell abnormalities and the "highest measles titer he had ever encountered equal to such neurological disorders as sub acute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE)" after doing an immune blood panel test.

    PER.............

    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/gallup.html

    Ray Gallup

    René for Max

    Max, I visited your site - couldn't comment there because I'm not a member of Yahoo 360. I just wanted to say that your daughter was absolutely beautiful. I am so very sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing her story with us.

    Max

    Here is another link you can copy and paste

    http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-caDHM.w8f_6Jylg8T9hU?list=

    bensmyson

    Thank God for all you folks keeping a watch and fighting as hard as you do. This news may pull me out of the funk I've been in for the past week.

    Autism is such a hard pill to swallow for people NOT dealing with it first hand, especially those of us whose child is borderline on the spectrum. I know, we know something is terribly wrong, others (my son is 3) see a typical 2 year old with a "quirkiness" about him. "Oh he'll out-grow it"

    When my son's neurologist first diagnosed my son with a post-viral or post-vaccinal encephalopathy I was relieved. Finally something "scientific" to tell family. Also because encephalopathy, or a brain injury, seemed to be something we can treat.

    I've been telling people my son has a brain injury that manifests itself with autistic like characteristics. Not only do they seem to understand it better, they actually ask about him from time to time as if he has the flu. I swear for a year prior no one said anything, much less wanted to hear anything.

    As I said before, Ben is borderline, at a glance he passes for being typical. He also lost 6 months immediately after his vaccinations at a year old.

    Max your story cuts deep into my heart, I cling to my son every night thanking the good Lord above that my son was spared after his initial sickness. But like now, Ben has had a fever 12 days out of the past 15, we live in fear that one day we could end up back at square one, or worse. Max my thoughts are with you, feel free to contact me at any time. bensmyson(at)gmail.com

    Max

    Sorry, here is the link to my blog

    http://360.yahoo.com/profile-caDHM.w8f_6Jylg8T9hU

    Raymond Gallup


    Here after when I talk about Eric I won't mention that he has autism, regressive autism, etc............I'll just say he is vaccine damaged.

    Better to be blunt and on target then use a label like autism that does not cut to the chase about what happened to him.

    When I talk to other people I can see the shock in their faces when I mention our son was normal and then was damaged by the MMR vaccine (and other vaccines).

    The government (CDC/NIH) likes the label, autism, so they can pigeon-hole kids. Apparently when kids are labeled autism and are in the Federal Court for the vaccine cases they are discrimated against like the three cases (including the Cedillo family) recently. That stinks!!! It is garbage!!!!

    People should read "A Stolen Life" by Marge Grant and see how the PharmaMafia and others put the screws to Marge Grant, her late husband and Scott Grant at:

    http://www.dptshot.com/

    The same 1986 law that created the Federal Court on vaccines.

    Ray Gallup

    Max

    To those in this blog that expressed sympathy along with their thoughts on this matter, I want to say thank you!

    I just to once again applaud the efforts of those involved with giving this type of tragedy (which would include ANY adverse reaction to any vaccine) a public forum, the USA Today article out today, and the 2 websites, Generation Rescue and Age of Autism. I can only imagine the hard work and courage it took to get this information out for others to see.

    I know from my own experience that getting a story like ours in a public forum is exstremely hard. I wrote newspapers, television shows, etc. only to find rejection or no response at all. In my case it appears that no one wants to talk about it. My reason for posting is not to debate whether one should vaccinate or not, I just only want to tell others what we did not know, what the doctors don't tell you, how politics continues to cover for the drug companies thanks to their lobbying efforts. I know first hand that in this state our Governor was trying to pass a law (yes and actual law this time) requiring teenage girls to receive a vaccine (I forget which one it was, sorry) only to find out that the governor's wife was on the payroll of one of the largest drug manufacturer's to the tune of 100 thousand dollars a year! Once this came out right on our capital floor the movement for the law was dropped right then and there! This was in the last 2 years.

    I don't want to argue pro's or con's regarding medicine with anyone I just don't think we should be required by any law to have any type of medicine, chemical, etc. injected into our system. I REALLY object to being advised that a vaccination is required because there is a law when in fact there isn't!

    Here is what I do know. My daughter was examined and deemed healthy prior to the vaccination and on that day received ONLY the MMR vaccination (yes, I know it is 3 in one) and after a very in depth autopsy to include inspection of the body, testing her body organs and tissues for any known or perceived causes of encephalitis in the USA and ALL other countries, every test came back negative. I remember saying to the doctor that "then it must have been the vaccine" and he said without hesitation "it was not the vaccine" to which I replied "bull****!" and he followed with "Max, I represent a children's hospital, I am not going to go on record stateing it was the vaccine when there is no proof it was the vaccine" I remember being at that hospital, my wife and I called into a large conference room where there must have been a dozen white coats in there. And for what seemed like an hour, we were asked about her symptoms, what did she eat, had she been in any lake's, swimming pool's, had she been sick and many many more questions. They were very thorough. Then the question was asked had she been vaccinated recently to which my wife replied "yes, seven days ago, it was an MMR vaccine" and whole mood in the room changed and I asked "what? what just happened? was the vaccine the cause of this? what is going on here?" and the doctor said that wasn't it and then they all got up and left the room.

    I just don't want anyone else to have to go through this, the fall out since has been nothing short of devastating. My marriage of 17 years was destroyed by this event not quickly mind you but slowly. I am still trying to reach out to a public forum in which to tell my story, there is so much more to tell than what I have shared here. Knowlege is power, I want other parents to have this knowlege. I know personally of one child that has been saved from encephalitis from this knowlege. They acted fast and this child is now a normal young man today.

    God Bless you all!

    A year ago I started a blog on Yahoo and have only had 2 visitors since. You can find it with a search of Abbigail Blair Lambert if you wish.

    Raymond Gallup


    ADEM or encephalitis or acute encephalitis is best. Autism is just a broad generic term and doesn't really describe our vaccine damaged kids. Plus the PharmaMafia and others in society have used the word, autism to discriminate against our kids from birth to adulthood.....both in health insurance, schooling, etc. It is a no win situation when the child and families are tagged with the label, autism.

    Ray

    Kathy Blanco

    I move we call autism encephalitis by vaccine or other infections and toxins. ADEM is a better term for our kids...

    Julie Obradovic

    JB,
    Newsweek just did. They said the issues is whether or not vaccines caused Bailey's PDD, not Autism. Swear.
    Julie

    Kathy Blanco

    Max
    Your story is heartbreaking and I pray you will get your justice, as my kids, two of them have autism and seizures from DPT and other shots. Please know, I found it intersting, they state TICK BITES as cause of encephalitis. I have an interesting theoyr on this which is ever developing. When contacting the lyme people, they are stating many kids with autism HAVE LYME, and their families (not just a tick bite, mothers can pass in utero). So, that got me thinking? WHAT IF? What if certain children have an ongoing infection like lyme already in place, then, when they get vaccinate, it damages the brain further? ME THINKS SO. For instance, at our LIA confrences (www.liafoundation.org ) we found many a mother sick with lyme, her child with lyme and autism and who had HORRIFIC vaccine reactions. What's interesting about that, is that the higher lyme states, have the highest levels of autism. AND, they are aparalleling in epidemicy. So, I think that may be the explantion why some kids vaccine react, and some don't. Interstingly, the same children through neuroborreliosis, have glutathione block, low magnesium and zinc, and all the things you need to have a in tact Blood Brain Barrier. This includes pours leaky guts and brains. So, I think we need to investigate the preconditions of vaccine injury, and perhaps forgo vaccines in such cases. Personaly, even if my child doesn't have lyme, I would not vaccinate, but that's another email..

    Anyways, keep an open mind on that, because many mothers I see with this silent infection (sometimes asymptomatic, and sometimes the FATHER is asymptomatic and passing it to mother), is in fact, creating a child who may be quite vulnerable to any immune lowering event. After all, MMR vacines damage the immune system to up to one year, and often give permission to bacteria to attack the brain further? AND, we know that lyme bacteria is a spirochete. Syphilis is also, and this is known to cause autism in utero. HMMMMM?

    Terri Lewis

    Max,

    My deepest sympathies.

    This is a warning to parents and parents-to-be.

    The lies and the covering up continue ("since that time the VAERS web site has removed that statement").

    By my estimate, there are currently well over a million children and young adults now who have been vaccine damaged to one degree or another. That would not include tragic fatalities, such as your own 5-year-old daughter.

    How do you hide a million people?

    You simply lie about the ones who die, and you lie about the ones who don't! People want to believe that side effects from vaccination are rare and rarely serious. They are neither.

    Thank you for your courage and generosity in moving beyond your own pain to warn others.

    JB Handley

    One of our biggest hopes is that, in order to combat this news, the other side tries to say that Bailey doesn't have autism.

    This argument is laughable and a loser -- and also untrue -- , so thanks, Peter, for making it early.

    JB Handley

    Theresa Cedillo

    Thank you Dan and Kim. You are amazing.

    Theresa

    Max

    My 5 year old daughter received an MMR vaccine and was dead in 7 days. She contracted encephalitis (swelling of the brain) We were told it was the "law" that she had to have this vaccine prior to attending kindergarten here in Texas. Since her death we have searched everywhere and even contacted the Texas Department of Health, they confirmed it was the law but when I asked to see it, they could not produce it. What I was advised of was a wevsite the government has, www.vaers.org At the time of my daughters death you could look up the vaccine injury table, find MMR and it stated "encephalitis can be caused by a mosquito bite, tick bite and in some cases from an MMR Vaccine. First sign of symptoms will present no earlier than 5 days after and no later than 10 days after receiving vaccination. Adverse effects could include severe brain damage or death" My 5 year old girls first symptom was on the 5th day and 2 days later she was pronounced dead. After an autopsy which included the help of the CDC in Atlanta it was concluded that my daughter had positively no evidence of a tick or mosquito bite or any tick or mosquito born deases but would not say it was the vaccination because there was no proof it was the vaccination. Since that time the VAERS web site has removed the above statement regarding the potential "adverse effects" which I find disturbing. The VEARS website contains statistics from the early 80's showing just how many have suffered from severe brain damage or even death.

    I have tried many times without success to get this story into the media so other parents would be equipped with the knowlege and the hidden risk of vaccinations that our doctors fail to tell us and no body wants to talk about it.

    I have to say I am pleased that one newspaper accepted such an ad and I applaud the efforts of those who got the ad published to shed light on this once elusive subject related to vaccines.

    My heartfelt sympathy to anyone who has had to learn it the hard way like we did.

    Caro

    "Dr. Lopez stated that “Bailey does not have autism because he has a reason for his deficits.” Tr. at 42."

    So, Peter, are you saying that the Bailey child can't have autism because he has a reason for his condition? In other words, if there is a reason for his condition, then he must not have autism, because there is no reason for autism.

    I kind of agree with you there. There should be no reason for any child to get autism. Other than that, though...sorry to tell you this, but there is no nice way to say it. You are ignorant.

    Does anyone else hear that sucking noise, btw? I swear it sounds like my antithesis (spell my name backwards) is sticking his foot in his enormous mouth.

    Sarah

    let's forward the Bailey Banks story to thenewsrooms at NBC (especially Dr. Nancy Snyderman), CBS and ABC with a request for some balanced reporting (not holding my breath).

    Does Sharyl Atkisson know? Love her!

    Twyla


    Peter Syms - What a brilliant defense. Vaccines can never cause autism if you define autism as having unknown causes, or as having purely genetic causes.

    But, that is NOT how autism is defined in the DSM IV, which does not refer to etiology but only to behaviors such as:

    - impairment in social interaction

    - impairments in communication, and

    - restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities.

    Bailey has these charactiristics. He is described as having "speech delays, and social interactive difficulties (e.g., poor eye contact and biting) 'His eye contact is variable. He has limited to no imaginary pretend play. He continues to bite excessively....'"

    But, as you (Peter S.) correctly pointed out, neurologist Dr. Lopez did not give him a diagnosis of autism because "He certainly does not ___ [sic] for autism because over here we can find a specific reason for his condition and this is not just coming up with no reason."

    "Dr. Lopez distinguishes autism as a more generalized condition without a known etiology, and contrasted it to Bailey’s condition, which he says is clearly attributable to demyelination based on neuroimaging evidence."

    "Speaking more directly, Dr. Lopez stated that 'Bailey does not have autism because he has a reason for his deficits.'"

    However, the court stated in its conclusion, "that diagnosis was merely descriptive, not etiological: that of PDD, which is the condition both parties acknowledge that Bailey currently experiences."

    Interestingly, "Dr. Lopez conceded that 'the majority of patients with ADEM improve significantly,' but added that 'the exception to this rule is when patients have been exposed to measles, just like in the case of MMR vaccine,' in which case 'sequela may occur in up to 50 percent of patients.' Tr. at 107-08. He elaborated that such sequela potentially include 'mental syndromes such as PDD and others, focal deficits, [and hemiparesis],' and opined that 'up to 50 percent of patients...who have had ADEM will show[,] as a consequence of this monophasic condition[,] PDD.'"

    As with Hannag Poling, the government's and other vaccine defender's spin will be that Bailey did not really have autism. But as others have pointed out, his case is like thousands of other cases described by parents: post-vaccination seizure, fevers, loss of language and social skills and even diminished motor skills/coordination... And it is consistent with studies of people with autism showing inflammation in the brain and auto-antibodies to myelin basic protein.

    Where there is no proven cause, this is said to be "just a coincidence".

    Where there is a proven cause, this is said to be "not autism because we know the cause. It's something else -- mitochondrial disorder -- Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis."

    But the fact is, vaccines can cause these conditions, which result in autism.

    Thank you so much Dan, JB, and everyone else at AoA and GR.

    Val from Ohio

    Peter Syms -

    "Dr. Lopez stated that “Bailey does not have autism because he has a reason for his deficits.” Tr. at 42."

    Let me get this straight. It can ONLY be autism if the cause of his deficits is unknown, and since it IS known what caused Bailey's deficits, it can't be autism?!?

    By this reasoning, he is declaring the causes of autism to be forever unknowable, since, in his opinion, if the cause IS known then that means the patient "does not have autism".

    Can you really not see the circular logic being employed in that doctor's statement?

    Bailey has autism. Face it.


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