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    October 03, 2008

    Unvaccinated Siblings and Autism?

    Comment_boxEditor's note -- We received this query from a physician/father/Age of Autism reader and found it intriguing. We know our readers collectively have a lot more info than any one of us individually, so please share your thoughts and resources by posting comments. -- Dan Olmsted

    I am a physician and have a son with autism.  I appreciate your website and view it often.  I have also spoken with many parents from around the country and I would appreciate your perspective on the following based on your years of experience.  Every family I have spoken with that did not vaccinate subsequent children tell me that have not had autism recur in these children.  Typically these are parents who didn't have an in hospital hepatitis B vaccine either because they had a plan for their child ahead of time.  I think this particular group is increasing and I hope you have heard from more than me.  I have heard about a few cases of autism despite withholding vaccination, but it seems as if uncertainty existed about whether the in-hospital hepatitis B vaccine was given or not.  I have looked at the generation rescue survey, but I am specifically interested in this group of parents that had a plan for their subsequent children as I described above.  Your thoughts?

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    I have a completely vaccine free child. No Hep B, no vitamin K, nothing. She has PDD NOS. I do believe that vaccines play a role in some cases of autism , but not in her case.
    Nancy

    Dawn,

    Welcome.

    We need you here, and I hope you'll stay. I think we've been (collectively) maybe a little slow to grasp unpleasant truths about vaccination in general.

    The idea that vaccines are your *only* reliable protection against deadly disease is so deeply, deeply ingrained that people are afraid to research more thoroughly even after they see (or suspect) a really bad vaccine reaction.

    So, they continue to vaccinate, feeling that's still the best choice. Or they continue to vaccinate because they're bullied into it, feel they "have to" to get their child into school--literally, don't know how to stop.

    There are some here who are openly against vaccines, but lots more who are asking for safer vaccines and a safer schedule, and still believe in vaccines as being mostly effective for most people.

    I've been kind of on the fence--both pushing for safer vaccines (and a delayed and lessened schedule) and simultaneously losing faith in most vaccination most of the time for most of us (if not all of us).

    But even if you lose faith in vaccines completely, lots of other people are still going to vaccinate, and many of them will go according to whatever current "schedule" is put in front of them. So pushing for any increase in the safety of the "program" or the safety of individual vaccines (i.e., no mercury, etc.) is still going to do a lot of good.

    Anyway, welcome. Thanks for the link.

    Thanks for your story.

    It's amazing--I keep waiting for somebody to come up with just one contradictory example here--a vaccinated sibling who's healthier than one who's unvaccinated--but it hasn't happened yet.

    Terri L.

    You know, I am truly sorry for what I am about to saw, but cannot help myself. I could not help but notice the number of parents claiming vaccine injury, yet still vaccinating? Maybe you are not aware of this or not, but spaced out, delayed or whatever you want to call it still does the same amount of damage. Trust me! Whatever the hell they are putting in vaccines these days scares the crap out of me. Don't buy into this vaccinating nonsense until you actually read Neil Z. Miller's books regarding disease and CDC statistics. Vaccines do nothing about the number of deaths from disease. Just remember this - yes, the number of cases may have been "lowered", but if you vaccinate your children now, they will need to be vaccinated later because you are putting them at risk for when they are older.

    I am 35 and I received all of my vaccines as a child. Handled them well (my brother was not so lucky - he is 32 and ADHD and Learning Disabled). I then received a Rubella Vaccine in Feb 07 which forever changed my life. I now have a partial hearing loss and LEARNING DISABILITY - an Auditory Processing Disorder. Thanks to one stupid vaccine that was so unnecessary according to the CDC.

    For any of you who have children with ezcema, food allergies, neurological problems - according to Merck's manual - your child should NOT have any live-virus vaccines period!! They could be injured permanently or die according to Merck.

    I actually have 5 vaccine injured victims in my family and will NEVER vaccinate again. To read my story:

    http://vaccinesexposed.blogspot.com/

    I think it is time to admit, that in some cases, autism can occur without vaccines, due to some other infection or toxins, which loads up the system with cytokine reactions and metabolic load, and whala, autism. So vaccines can do the same thing? There is no argument in this, autism can be caused by infections, out of control immune respones, low glutathione, high iron, you name it, the combinations are numerous. So the point is, any infection, any toxin, in a time frame where the child is developing, is of concern. For instance, the flu virus has been known for centuries that it can cause or initiate the proces of schizophrenia in the unborn. If mother uses antipyretics, this also causes a glutathione loss, and damages the fever mechanism...so what do we brainiacs do? THE ACIP says, use it for vaccine fevers, use it if mother has the flu while pregnant..NOT! I believe also, there may be a silent infection in most parents who have autistic children, either derived from THEIR vaccine series in childhood, or natural things like vector bacteria like lyme disease (else why would moms have Chronic Fatigue, Autoimmne isues etc) or even a simple cold or flu while pregnant. I am in the Rimland treating autism book, read more, but read how many parents gave their children tylenol duirng these fevers? Any time a hit and run infection or toxin occurs, it can damage the thyroid of mom, and that can create creatinisms in the child (bad word, but general term of IQ loss). What mom eats, can cause autism such as MSG and ingesting FLUORIDES or her own PROBIOTIC imbalances. All this POOL of toxins, viruses, imperfect immune response, the perfect storm gathers, and you have a large number of kids reacting to vaccines, and if not to vaccines, to the other stuff. How we birth our kids, damages their brains by hypoxia in medical settings? SO, in that light, my two NT daughters (I have two others with autism a boy and girl, ages 27 and 20), had children (all boys mind you), did not vaccinate, did not immediate cord clamp, did not ingest bad things such as gluten and the like, don't have amalgams, did not do anything, (definately had a birth contract, and baby in the room so no vaccines or pokes) AND THEIR KIDS ARE FINE, INTELLIGENT, PRECOSCIOUS. so you tell me, is AUTISM REALLY GENETIC, or is it EPIGENETIC? Are we IATRAGENICALY causing this? The answer is yes. We must avoid modern everything...

    www.infect_meta_toxic@yahoogroups.com
    www.nogreenvaccine@yahoogroups.com
    www.lyme-autism.org

    To K. Fuller- You mention a child having migraine attacks. Please try this;It worked extremely well for my daughter: Have the child sit, with feet in a bucket of hot water- very hot if possible. This may relieve the migraine quickly. I recall one episode when my daughter lay on the bed, screaming with pain and we could not make her sit up, so in desperation I put a plastic sheet on the bed and put hot towels on her feet. Amazingly, he pain decreased in a short time.This method works for adults too, but some people have reported that it did not help them.

    I found this October 3rd article interesting. The doctor you mention is interested in the subsequent children after a first child diagnosed with autism. My husband and I have had this experience. My first son developed a blood disorder (IPT) after his 15 month round of vaccinations (he outgrew the blood disorder after about 1 yr). Shortly after this blood disorder we noticed that his language had pretty much stopped. It was then that we realized that the vaccinations not only caused the blood disorder but also the new diagnosis of autism too. Before he was born we consciously made the decision not to vaccinate our 2nd child. He did not have the Hep B vaccine at birth, nor any other vaccinations since. We have noticed a significant difference between our two boys. Our second son has a mild speech delay, but does not have autism at all - not even mildly. My husband and I feel that he was at a high risk of autism considering our experience with our first child. Granted we're not scientists but in our gut we knew that the vaccinations caused autism in our first son. We trusted our judgement and believe we were proven correct - our 2nd son was not vaccinated and did not develop autism. Believe me... we watched his every move as he's developed in to the 5 year old he is today. We did not and have not seen any autism symptoms.

    I got vacced with the flu vacc and had my dauthter in 99'. I saw the study being argued about the MMR and then the Mom's on a panel accusing the MMR of damages so I got her MMR given separately (I didn't realize they would give them all in one visit).

    I got the flu vaccine with my son a year later and he was born in 01'. They refused to give him the MMR in separate shots and a flu shot was given him without my presence. At age 4 he developed tics and a seizure disorder and a year later to find out he has two different masses in his head. After 2 years of anti-seizure medication the neurologist called for a final EEG which showed no seizure activity and he was taken off meds. and the tics went away. He has come along way and in the last 3 months caught up after being held back in pre-school and getting special needs attention.
    After he was born I was diagnosed with Thyroid dysfunction. I wonder if the flu shots had anything to do with this and causing my son's neurological disorder as thyroid disorder is linked to dyslexia.

    It is interesting - I know some Moms get thyroid dysfunction temporarily during pregnancy.

    Is there a link between mercury (via flu shot) and thyroid disorder?

    Are you attempting to get research from Moms?

    I can go to my school and get facts?

    What are you looking for?

    I have like many Mom's have developed a good reputation with my school. I can possibly get information on unvaccinated health and the amount of neurologically challended students. Ofcourse this would be done without names.

    We have medically treated ourselves and I assume we have to do our own research as well, but where to start?

    I know it is the schools as a third party reporting the real numbers.

    Jan,

    I think your story is very helpful and I'm glad you posted it. I believe there are many older children like yours who are vaccine-injured and their parents don't realize it, or may have realized it until now, when the vaccine-autism link is so prevalent. Or they may never realize it.

    We parents of young children with vaccine injury often neglect to remember that vaccine injury has been around for a long time.

    Not to highjack the thread, but have you looked into doing the SCD (Specific Carb Diet) for your daughter? It's been a tremendous resource for people with IBD and chronic bowel issues and has helped many people reduce or eliminate their symptoms. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/ ...Just a thought! :)

    I know there have been a ton of comments and I don't know if mine will help because my kids are so old (22 & 25) but I feel compelled to answer.
    My daughter born in 1983 had the standard vaccines for that time. She developed totally normally and was precocious with her language, talking in phrases by 18 months of age. At the age of 5 years 4 months, (a few months after her MMR booster) she suddenly developed drop seizures. From about the same age she also showed signs of sensory dysfunction screaming like she was being killed when she had her hair brushed and she was also very uncomfortable with being touched or hugged. She had significant learning problems in school, and didn’t learn to read until she was
    six and a half. The professionals kept pressing to diagnose her as ADD which I wouldn’t accept. At eleven she was diagnosed with sensory dysfunction. She received the full complement of Hep B vaccine at age fourteen. A few months after she turned sixteen, in 1999, she was vaccinated for a number of diseases because she was traveling with our church to Korea. Shortly thereafter she developed severe and chronic diarrhea which persists to today. By 2001 she was experiencing fatigue and pain throughout her body (In muscles and joints). In 2007 she was finally diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Since that time she has been on a wheat free diet, has tried to be careful getting enough sleep, (even though she is pursuing her Masters In Fine Arts and teaching college) and taking supplements. She continues to struggle with Fibromyalgia but it is nowhere near as bad as it was prior to her diet change and taking better care of herself. She still has sensory issues but knows how to cope with them.
    My son was born in 1985,two years and nine months after his big sister. He was a big happy and healthy baby and had 15 words at 15 months. He received more vaccines than my daughter did as an infant and toddler, including the HIB vaccine.
    At 16 months he received his MMR and Oral Polio vaccine while he was recovering from an ear infection, a cold and a nasty case of Roseola. Because I had no idea that it was unsafe to have him vaccinated or that because of illness his immune system was seriously compromised. Less than 4 months later I went back to the Pediatrician deeply concerned because he has developed chronic constipation and had stopped adding new words to his vocabulary. I was told this was normal. Fast forward to a year later and he had lost all his language, lost all eye contact and was having severe meltdowns almost daily. Because I had no idea vaccines had anything to do with what was happening my son, he continued to get ALL of his vaccines up until the day the Pedi wanted to give him the Hep B at age 11. I said NO WAY. Today at the age of 22 my son has Autism which is considered to be fairly severe.
    There is no doubt in my mind that both of my children have been negatively impacted by vaccines. I am just grateful that my daughter has not been as affected as my son.

    Vaccines need to be called what they are: an invasive medical procedure. Calling them that helps one get over the years of indoctrination in thinking that the word vaccine always means something wonderful. Imagine if a being came from outer space and watched people preparing a vat of something and then methodically injecting it into thousands of kids. He would say "Jeez, I hope they dont botch this up, because if they do, its going to harm a lot of individuals!" Now multiply this times 30 or 40 or however many vaccines the poor guinea pigs have to have in this survival of the fittest society. Vaccines have always been an accident waiting to happen and in reality, you can do all the billion dollar studies of children that you like, but in fact, what you imagine are normal human individuals are not normal at all; they are individuals who have been changed in ways that we cannot know, in our current state of knowledge, by vaccines.
    Parents of autistic kids are fighting for their kids and fighting againstthe hijacking of science by the pseudo scientists who made vaccines into a religion.

    I welcome this question, especially having four kids and making different choices for them all (whether by “chance” or choice). And this is all the more reason to support Rep. Maloney’s briefing and a study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children. I have a veterinary technician, pre-nursing, and pre-midwifery educational background. I don’t know what the curious good doctor will be doing with this information so I included pregnancy and birth info as well, because this is important information. There are many things (interventions) during pregnancy, labor and birth that can be a set-up for a pre-disposition.

    Isaac (my prince) was born the first week of June 1999. ASD diagnosed in June 2006. Terrific pregnancy. Hospital birth. Iatrogenic vacuum extraction after a beautiful labor (2 hours from 2cm to pushing – no drugs – water labor). Apgars above 8 at 1 and 5 mins. For what ever reason I refused (gut) Hep B at birth. Isaac had the following vaccines.
    7-1-99 Hep B
    8-2-99 Hep B, IPV, DTaP
    10-04-99 Hep B, IPV, DTaP
    He was quite fine. A bit of colic at times but a happy baby, meeting milestones. We moved from NY to WA when he was almost 5 months and had no insurance for several months. THANK GOD! When we finally did have insurance again we took him to the pediatrician we signed up with. His doc at the time (whom I still hold in high regard) thought that he may have craniosynostosis. Go google that one. He may have to have major surgery. “Behind” on his vaccines… the only one given that day was Hep B. April 3, 2000. Three weeks later he was gone. I came home from work and he was on the couch rocking. The only reason he has stopped rocking on the couch is because he had surgery (Aug. 2007 – 8 years old) for a tethered spinal cord (occult – terminal filum 4 times normal size and full of fatty deposits which makes the cord hard – you could google that one too). No rocking – no nothing for two weeks basically. He now rocks other places, in other ways. After that one vaccine of Hep B the chronic ear infections resistant to antibiotics started and continued for months. Finally ear tubes. No speech. EI… nothing… Gut issues, but thankfully not as severe as what so many of our children have. He had no more vaccines until the following Dec. and again THANK GOD! Because in hindsight I truly believe that this saved him. After that they were extremely spread out, just by “chance”. But it was the Hep B single and alone that sent him over the edge. But I will add that he had a flu shot in 2003 (Dec I think? I have the record) and things got worse after that.

    Isaac also has a SEVERE allergy to grass pollen. It’s systemic. Twice his heart rate was in the forties, eye’s swelling shut and nose gushing snot. We can joke about it and tell him he’ll have to marry a woman who will mow the lawn, because he’s been relieved permanently of that duty. Makes me wonder which one of his vaccines was contaminated with grass pollen.

    Nathan (my angel) was born the second week of August 2001. ASD diagnosed “officially” in March of 2005. Terrific pregnancy. Hospital birth, no interventions, water labor, land birth (as we “midwives” call it). Labor about 7 hours, pushed for about 30 minutes. No Hep B at birth. First Hep B was at 16 days. He fared ok. Some colic and sleep issues but nothing “crazy”.
    10-19-01 Hep B, DTaP, HIB, IPV, PCV (pneumococcal conjugate)
    No longer the same. He was so sick off and on for the next year that any time I had made an appointment for a “well child visit and vaccines” I either cancelled or just didn’t show up. What’s interesting is that I think this all (again in hindsight) compromised his immune system. Isaac got the Varicella vx a month after this and in Thanksgiving pictures you can see spots on Nathan. That’s a live virus… no??? The positions have changed on this so many times it makes my head spin, but you’re not supposed to give a live virus vx to anyone in the house when they are in contact with an infant or vice versa… Chemotherapy patients absolutely can not have contact with someone who has had… say, an OPV vx? Right? So Nathan was finally healthy enough for more vaccines in August of 2002. A one year old who was so sick from his “two month well child visit” and the vaccines administered to him that he could now have more. BOOM! Talk about playing catch-up!
    8-16-02 DTaP, HIB, IPV
    9-20-02 Hep B, DTaP, HIB, IPV, MMR (NINE count ‘em NINE!!! in one day)
    Nathan changed. That was a tough time. Then the ear infections started. Resistant to antibiotics, of course. I was in a car accident (rear-ended – not my fault – please laugh at the rear ended part as others have). I love my Chiropractor (Dr. Tom). He treated Nathan for free when I told him about his ear infections, and they cleared up immediately. They have a “thingie” up on one of the walls in their practice with the last bottle of antibiotic that Nathan was on when he began treatment with Dr. Tom. He was two days into the antibiotic and I stopped it. Nathan has had I think one ear infection in the past six years. He was on his way to ear tubes at that point as well. I think of all the Tylenol and antibiotics my boys have had and it just makes me shudder.
    2-18-03 DTaP Things changed… and with the two of them it was already out of control, but it was one of those situations where everyone denies it for you. I was pregnant with Emma, a stay at home mom, and taking full time college courses… hubby was taking ¾ time in addition to working full time. Don’t ask me how we did it… I think things are crazy now and I still don’t know how we did it. We were in constant motion. It was easy to deny that something was wrong.
    That was it until Nathan got the same flu vx that Isaac did in Dec. 2003.
    8-30-04 Enter the VARICELLA vaccine. It was the only vaccine given that day and the last one he will ever have. Within three days Nathan was gone… I mean gone. Far worse than anything had ever been with Isaac. It’s really hard for me to go back to that time and think about it. I was dealing with the situation completely on my own. Dave had left for basic training 13 days before Nathan got that damn shot, so he knew nothing of what was happening. Not something you write in a letter to your husband in basic. Nathan received his first diagnosis in Dec. 2004 which was ADHD with features of autism. The psych who diagnosed him was not experienced with autism, and by that time I had already done my research and I knew he needed a second opinion. The ADHD with features of autism (while it might be more accurate now) did not fully explain his behaviors. Finally in March 2005, he was properly diagnosed. In July of 2005 after finally convincing his doc (since been fired for numerous reasons) that he should have an EEG, they found abnormal temporal lobe activity. Not enough to be considered a full blown seizure, but enough for me to know (and I think them to finally realize as well) that when Nathan disappeared that was where he was and that’s what was going on.

    Also worth mentioning… When Nathan was first starting solids, he reacted to spinach, peas, and you guessed it, eggs. There are still times where I feel so stupid and get mad at myself for not being more educated about vaccines, and for blindly trusting the medical community.

    My boys have very different issues, which I’m sure you can imagine makes for an interesting household. There are many a day when I think I am going to lose my sanity. They are both high functioning. They have made huge progress, especially Nathan. I thank God every day that we didn’t vaccinate them according to the schedule. Our lives would be very, very different.

    Emma (my sunshine) was born the last week of August 2003. No ASD. Terrific pregnancy. Home birth, I was induced (yes at home) with gel. My midwife used a quarter of the usual dose. At the end I was miserable and had been walking around at 4 cm for almost 3 weeks. Water labor, water birth. Hour and a half labor, 2 min. 58 sec. (yes we have it documented) of pushing! Apgars above 8 both times. No Hep B ever.
    12-5-03 DTaP, HIB, PCV
    02-6-04 DTaP, HIB, IPV, PCV
    03-26-04 DTaP, IPV
    After this Emma came down with chronic ear infections resistant to antibiotics. We did chiropractic care for her – same as Nathan – after several rounds of antibiotics. Her ear infections cleared. She was fine. No worries about development at all. Perfect!
    11-?-06 Flu shot – I made an educated decision to get this one for her after talking extensively with my midwife (same midwife for both girls births) about the risks versus benefit. Sam had just been born and Emma’s healthy curiosity about the world around her. I questioned (as we’re here in WA-only thimerosal free flu vx for kids) if it was thimerosal free. She hastily said no and jab… I should have asked to see the insert, because in looking back on that day I have my doubts. Who is overseeing the mandate? Who does the shipping? Think about it… Anyway within a week the ear infections returned. She then reacted to Augmentin (although we didn’t know it at the time) and developed a stutter which lasted for months and finally stopped. Emma’s language had always been developmentally perfect. Then a few months later, this perfectly healthy child of mine developed Transient synovitis. At points over a two week period in dealing with this and trying to get her help, her hips were so painful she could not even walk. The pain went on, off and on for months. I know it was related to the flu vaccine.

    During this time frame and after the stutter had cleared up, she needed antibiotics again (I think it was another ear infection) and they rx’ed Augmentin. Within four hours of that first dose, the stutter returned. She is allergic to the Potassium Clavulanate in Augmentin. She can take Amoxicillian without problems. Developmentally Emma is right on track and just started kindergarten, which she adores!!!

    Samantha (my princess) was born the second week of September, 2006. No ASD. Terrific pregnancy, although stressful thanks to ASD. Home birth, induced again (same reason as with Emma and same amount). Water labor, water birth. Labor was about 3 hours, pushing maybe three minutes. Apgars above 8 both times. No vaccines ever. She’s been sick twice in her life. She is developmentally perfect.

    As I’m sure for so many of us, what I’ve listed here is just the tip of the iceburg. If we sat down and wrote everything that happened, we’d all have a book I’m sure.

    So sign us up for that vaccinated versus unvaccinated study once it finally passes. We’ve got our own study going on here in the Warner home! Vaccines can be life saving, yes, when used judiciously, but as we all know, they are not. Different diseases are more prevalent at different times of the year. We also need to look at the child’s season of birth in comparison. Are they breast feeding or being bottle fed? And above all we need to remember that before roughly four months of age an infant’s immune system is simply not capable of developing an immune response to a vaccine. Period. Too Many Too Soon. Period!


    Hey Angie,

    You (and others) say: "Can't wait for a real honest study to be done on vax vs. unvaxed."

    Generation Rescue has already done the study (for anyone who hasn't already, go look at www.generationrescue.org). They looked at over 9,000 boys, and found that those who were vaccinated had a 155% greater chance of having a neurological disorder like ADHD or autism than those who were unvaxed.

    If you were to split it out further into those who got lots of vaccines vs. those who got none, I bet the difference would be even more striking.

    This thread right here is as good as some of the scientific "studies" (propaganda) that support the vaccinate-at-any-cost crowd: with well over 70 substantial posts here (posts detailing the story of one or more of our children) I'd say we have a little mini-study, and (once again) the results are clear:

    More vaccines = more brain damage.

    Additional stories (i.e., evidence) is welcome.

    I haven't seen one story yet that says, "Gee, my vaccinated child is so much healthier than my unvaccinated child."

    Terri Lewis

    My 5yo received all her vaccines up to 4years. She is very smart, but will be lucky to escape an ADHD dx. My 3 1/2 yo received hep B and the other early vaccines up until 4 months. He had a "leaky gut" and we were told that that was normal. At his 4 month DTaP shot, he screamed for 4 hours and then stopped all eye contact...which we did not get again until he was 2 1/2. We stopped all shots at 4 months. He was later dx with CNS dysfunction, apraxia, disarthria, PDD (not nos) and SID. At his 3 year check up our doctor finally admitted that he had a brain injury, (yes, folks that is how he put it). Interesting to note that we started evaluating him, or trying to at two years. Long waiting lists and all, he was not completely evaluated until 3 years. But for the time between our doctor becoming involved and the actual dx, our ped stated that our son was not to receive anymore shots until we knew what was going on. Of course, after his dx, and the absense of a classic autism dx, he wanted to resume vaccines. What a laugh. That never happened. We spent the next year in a minimum of 8 hr/wk in therapy. Five hr/wk for just speech. It bothers me that our ped wanted to stop the shots to see how is evaluation went. They all know the truth, this just sickens me:(
    I am truly blessed that we escaped and autism diagnosis. His existing problems are difficult enough for him, and I still cry everyday wishing that I had had the back bone he needed me to have. As perfect as he is, I know that he will always be the odd man out in class. He can repeat most all of what is said. He can get across to you what he wants (what a blessing), but if you ask him what he did today.....it's a mess. And he knows this. To see his head drop when you are not getting what he says, the feeling of complete failure for parent and child. And lets face it....if I can't understand as his mother....there isn't a chance in the world that other's understand what he is saying. It's crushing to a mom's heart.

    Our oldest son born in 1984 was fully vaccinated. He began having juvenile migraines at 6 years old, they were so severe we went through cat scans and MRI and much more. He still gets them.
    Our daughter born in1985 was fully vaccinated and started what are now called drop seizures at 14months old. So much lab work, so many neurological tests were done to no avail.We turned down the meds because they had never been tested on children under 4. She stopped having them at about 8or9years old.
    Our youngest born in 1992 fully vaccinated and developed right on target until he reached about 18 months. At that time he lost language and began the long road through spinning, flapping hands, licking everything, lining things up etc, etc. Constipation,vomiting, inability to sleep through the night.
    He had 22 rounds of antibiotics before his 2nd birthday, and not one medical professional *not one* ever stated that he should not get his vac's because he had a fever or ear infection or sinus infection, or because he was on anti-biotics. I want a do over.
    He has made huge progress socially and emotionally but academically he is way behind.

    What about the live vaccines?

    My first child had severe allergies and is fully vaccinated.

    My second child, fully vaccinated,has no neurological issues but started suffering from leaky bowel syndrome after his first MMR.

    My third child, fully vaccinated, has sensory issues and autistic traits, but no bowel issues.He is currently classified as a mild learning disability.

    Child number 4 was partially vaccinated, but no live vaccines. She is healthy.. no sid,LBS, allergies, or other.

    And I was given Rubella vaccine after the birth of child #2 even though I was a breastfeeding mother. I believe that live vaccine I was given is what ultimately set all of my kids up for problems. Hence i declined all live vaccines for child #4 and do not find it a coincidence, she has no health or neurological issues.

    My second son Asher is completely unvaccinated including the hepatitis B and vitamin K shots they normally give in the hospital. He is the healthiest person in my family. When the flu came around last year, he threw up once, while my older son and I spent a whole day in bed. He has no food or environmental allergies; he’s just a healthy happy child. He has benefited greatly from the mistakes we made with our first born, who luckily has recovered.

    I had my second son after my first son was diagnosed with autism/vaccine injury but before I knew anything about the harm vaccines do. My second baby received all his shots up until jusst before his 12-month visit when I became involved in the DAN approach and our DAN noticed some early-autism signs in my second child at the same time I brought my first son in for his initial DAN visit. THANK GOD we started seeing this doc....I fully feel my second child would be diagnosed with autism had she not been there for us.

    We began the DAN approach with my youngest son, stopped all vaccines for my second little boy....no MMR, nothing. Diet change (SCD diet) and no vaccines and my second little boy shows ZERO signs of autism. At two years old (in a few days) he speaks in 4-word sentances, is highly social and runs and jumps like a champ...just like how I think my first little guy would have, had he not been poisoned.

    My sister just had her little boy and they are on a delayed vaccine schedule with a fabulous doctor who has such disdain for the current vaccine schedule.

    People who hate us for following out gut instincts have never had to deal with the hell we have all been through.

    You guys are doing such great work on ferreting out reality from our Soviet-era mainstream media. Truth spreads by word-of-mouth in a society which can't otherwise address the truth.

    Please keep up the great and priceless work!

    Wow, it's been a while since I've come back to read these and I'm floored by all of the similar responses....These stories need to be told...

    Craig-All 3 of my children(1 with asd)have MANY food intolerances/allergies, even my youngest who only had 3 vaccines one at a time. But the immediate food intolerances and swallowing issues was how I knew to stop her schedule. My ASD son has the worst of the food reactions. All 3 are allergic to dairy, all 3 allergic to beef, all 3 allergic to tree nuts and almonds (not peanuts), all 3 extremely intolerant of any food dyes, or strong scents, especially chemical scents. 1 is allergic to Chicken and the other 2 allergic to eggs. My son never tested positive for gluten sensitivity, allergy, celiac, etc. But if he gets into a TINY CRUMB he can display absence seizures for 4 days or more. Our list can go on.

    Many food proteins are in these vaccines, including dairy, wheat, eggs, beef heart,etc, etc...

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