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    July 16, 2008

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    It is my understanding that as long as you meet the statute of limitations(which remains subject to various interpretations)by filing 3 years from when the autistic symptoms were noticed,then win or lose in vaccine court you can sue pharma in a civil court with a jury deciding the verdict.
    My bet is any jury hearing the crap that was presented in the vaccine court,that the government put forth as proof would overwhelmingly rule in favor of the damaged children.

    The Statute of Limitations clock starts at the "onset of symptoms" and this can be intrepreted differently, particularly if it has taken a long period of time to determine what is going on with your child, to find a doc that is willing to even consider the vax as a culprit, and to find a doc with the ability to make a diagnosis. This is a powerful tool for the gov't to time-bar claims and people need to be aware that the moment they believe their child has suffered a vax-related injury they must file paperwork with the system! Too many people are being denied because of the SOL and it needs to be changed! Also, you can't go to civil court unless you've gone throught the Program and it is much harder to prove your case in civil court. The Program requires a preponderance of the evidence of an injury which is described as "50% and a feather" and civil court has a much higher standard. The option of suing in civil court isn't nearly as appealing as most would like to believe.

    THANK GOD!
    My heart jumps for joy for all the families of autistic kids out there. I pray you see your side of the story aired out for all the world to see. You are an amazing group of people and deserve nothing but the best.
    Teresa Holler www.holler4health.com

    to Laura:

    the clock on the statute of limitations starts ticking from when the first symptom appeared. not when child was diagnosed, or vaccinated, although a lot of kids symptoms started within days of vaccination.

    How does the statue of limitatioans work? Is it three years from vacinations or 3 years from arriving to a diagnosis?

    My guess is that their is an army of lawyers licking their chops just hoping they can file a civil suit against Pharma on this one.Once they bring the evidence before a jury the families of the injured will own Pharma.

    Kieth,


    I think the Secial Masters have done the families a great service by including the following stement in their letter to HHS:

    Mr.Powers then stated that the peititioners might wish to file a motion that certain unspecified inferences be drawn from the respondent's decision to withdraw the reports of Dr.s Magos and Clarkson. As we noted during the conference, we will certainly consider any such motion."

    This shows that the Special Masters are themselves open to the question of "What the hell is this all about?".....

    Tim

    Kent

    is there anything in those reports that could come back to bite them and help our side as the reason for being thrown out?

    Or is there something there that if/when some/all of these cases are taken to a civil court would hurt the vaccine companies defense?

    I wonder a similar thing about them not dragging the Polings through the process. That there could be something there they don't want to bring to the public record.

    The rats are scurrying for the exits right quick. Who can blame them? Between Poling, Healy, the airing of reality in the Omnibus proceedings, these guys would be crazy to go down in history defending the indefensible. At least they had the sense to figure this out.

    JB

    If they play the statute game or primo medical documentation game there is always civil court.

    "I'd bet that a bunch of the cases currently filed could be thrown out on a strict interpretation of the statute of limitations"

    Fed Up:

    This issue is currently *being addressed* and would benefit my own child (who is a part of the 5,000) if it succeeds.

    UndertheRadar

    Well, Kent, you made my day! When facts and reality make it too hard for "them" to dance around the issue, we are getting closer. Wonder how the other side is tsking this news?

    Teresa

    They may draw some very stringent guidelines for autism as a table injury. A few families will be able to meet the burden of proof set forth by the special masters, but most will not. This approach by the special masters, in their minds, could satisfy all involved. Keeps the medical establishment happy, shuts up most of us autism folks, and makes the govt. happy. This is where the 3 year statute of limitations can work in their favor, this in conjunction with strict medical proof, could limit the damages and satisfy both sides at the same time. I'd bet that a bunch of the cases currently filed could be thrown out on a strict interpretation of the statute of limitations, and a bunch more could be thrown out for not having enough medical proof of injury, labs etc. So they may be able to whittle down the 5000 number to a couple of hundred.

    "Although the parties are continuing to submit motions and it appears unlikely that there will be a decision this summer, the withdrawal of these reports are likely to have profound consequences"

    So, when might a verdict reasonably be expected? And what form exactly will a verdict take? Will it be to compensate these families, and then to allow the other cases in to be heard individually?

    Thanks for the great update.

    This is the biggest news since the Poling case. The silence is staggering.

    Interesting assessment.

    Isn't that Dr. Peter King cited in the article actually D.r Paul King, or is there another Dr. King that I had just not yet heard of?

    How do you know that Clarkson and Magos are behind the www.mercuryfacts.org website? I didn't see their names anywhere on the website. Not questioning your facts, just curious to know more about these guys are and their
    involvement with that website.

    Sue

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