HONEY GETS MORE THAN LEMON

By Julie Obradovic

In the same month the CDC is meeting with experts from around the country to discuss the role vaccinations may have in triggering “autism-like symptoms” in susceptible children with mitochondrial dysfunction, the AAP is gearing up for an all out assault on pesky parents who question vaccine safety. They apparently haven’t gotten the CDC’s memo that, yes, there may be a problem.

In an explosive move by the frustrated AAP, a campaign of coercion and intimidation is about to be launched in the hopes of finally getting parents who don’t follow recommended vaccine guidelines to do what they say without asking questions. Their method?

1. Have parents who wish to change or forgo the vaccine schedule sign a damning letter that forces them to acknowledge that they are being “selfish” and “self-centered”, taking advantage of other people’s vaccinated children, and that any refusal to participate alongside them is “unacceptable”.

2. When a parent inquires about an alternate vaccine schedule, or asks for a referral to a doctor that will implement one, tell them you don’t recommend an alternate schedule and that the AAP does not promote doctors who don’t comply with their rules. In other words, don’t help them.

3. Tell parents their kids could die without all of their vaccines exactly when they are supposed to get them.

4. If they still refuse to get with the program, kick uncooperative parents out of the practice and proceed to number 5.

5. Report parents to the authorities and their insurance carriers.

Wow! Talk about a plan!

(I wonder how many people it took to come up with. Can’t you just picture the heads of the AAP sitting around a board room shouting, “Humiliate them!” “Report them to the police!” “Take away their insurance!” “Make ‘em sign something!” “Scare them!”)

I may not be a marketing genius, but I am a teacher, and I can tell you this:  This is not the way to get people to cooperate.

As the saying goes, you can’t change what you don’t acknowledge. The AAP is acknowledging that parents are refusing to cooperate with the recommended vaccine schedule, but they aren’t correctly acknowledging why. So if anyone from the AAP is reading this, please pay attention.

Parents aren’t refusing to cooperate with you because of the internet or the mom down the street who warns them to be careful.

Parents aren’t refusing to cooperate with you because the media is too slow to correct a “negative” story, or any of those other reasons you have identified.

Parents are refusing to cooperate with you because they are afraid of vaccines; afraid of a lack of transparency; and now they are afraid of you.

Make no mistake, they are not confused.

They recognize neurodevelopmental disorders have skyrocketed in the last 20 years (the same 20 years that vaccines have more than tripled) and you have no idea why.

They recognize our children are the sickest generation ever, and the most vaccinated, and again, you have no idea why.

Most important, they recognize that you are not even remotely addressing these very legitimate concerns with real, independent, non-manipulated science.

You want me to vaccinate my baby? Fine. But first, I have some questions for you. I demand the answer to these questions, and I refuse to vaccinate my child until you give them to me.

1. What is the safe amount of ethyl mercury to inject into a child or pregnant woman? I want real science, not epidemiology.

2. What is the safe amount of aluminum or any of the other ingredients to inject into the same? Real science only, please.

3. What are the different health outcomes of the vaccinated versus the never vaccinated, and why the hell do you keep refusing to do this study?

4. What are the effects of multiple vaccines given to a child on the same day? In other words, show me the independent study that says all brands of all vaccines can be given in any combination to anyone at anytime with no problem.

5. Who are the susceptible populations of children that should not be vaccinated on the recommended schedule, and how do you plan on finding them?

6. What number will it take for you to finally declare something wrong with this generation of children? 1 in 5 is in need of special education, and 1 in 150 is being diagnosed with Autism (that’s 1 in 64 boys)!

Until these questions are answered, this situation will never be rectified; if anything, it will only get worse. Your authoritarian, intolerant, threatening new campaign does nothing to help. The genie is out of the bottle, and frankly, you have some explaining to do.

AAP, I promise to save you a lot of time and energy if you just follow my advice:  Show parents you care about them and their children by welcoming the science they deserve. Walk the walk of all the talk you talk claiming to be practitioners of evidence based-medicine. Do the studies we want to see, and do them now.

Study the vaccinated versus the never vaccinated. Prove a safe amount of the ingredients you inject into our kids. Study combinations of vaccines. Screen children for inheritable susceptibilities. Declare Autism epidemic and regain your credibility.

Let this be a final warning from parents everywhere, AAP; your refusal to comply with our wishes will be considered “selfish”, “self-centered” and “unacceptable”.

Julie Obradovic is the mom of a recovered child. She is a member of NAA, a Rescue Angel, and a leader of the TACA Chicago Chapter.

Comments

[Amy]

Hello all,
I just got back for the second time from my ped's office because my husband is in fact one of those that just signed that form after we refused to vaccinate. I did not sign it and when I looked it over I saw the line where it says that by refusing I am putting child's heatlth and life at risk and other children and so on....... Then I gathered all four kids and went back to the office and was livid about that statement and felt completely coherced and the receptionist would not give me back the form to make adjustments, (I don't blame her). She asked me to step into the exam room and a the Dr. would come in to "talk". Well it ended in a fight and pretty much he would not let me adjust it to fit my needs, even though on the back it does say that it can be modified. He basically said he did not want to be liable for my child becoming sick with diseases. I still do not blame him but I feel manipulated. I told him that my copies would be changed and signed, dated and his can stay that way and we are both liable. I should have kept my mouth shut. I am thinking about having a non vaccinated children's study at my house twice a month for support. I have two families that I know that do not vaccinate. The Dr. said I have nothing to worry about with this form and complain to the CDC... OH I wish it would be that easy...Amy

[camilla]

wonderful post. I hope my ped does not harrass me. I switched to him because my old one did.. even after my son had a serious reaction and stopped breathing he still told me i should do the immunizations just spread them out more... ugh!! so i asked my midwife is she knew anyone less pushy with the shots, and she gave me a name of a wonderful man. He asked me on my first visit what i wanted to do, i told him no shots at all and he hasnt mentioned it since even with additional children that never even got so much as the vitamin k shot. It seems though that he *cant* tell me outright what he thinks of them, because maybe he would get in trouble? what is this country coming to??

[Heather]

This is all very interesting and helpful.
When I took my ASD son for his Kindergaten checkup 2 years ago and declined the boosters, our Family Practice doctor had me sign the AAP refusal to vaccinate form. I had never heard about it before, so I signed it. A month later, our health insurance sent us a letter stating my son was due for those boosters. I recieved a few more of those letters until we switched insurances later that year.

Recently, I've taken my other children in for visits with the same Family Practice doctor. One was a physical where forms had to be filled out. The doctor told me what shots they were due for and I told him I didn't want them to get any shots until more vaccine safety research comes out. All he said was "Ok". Nothing about the AAP form.

One of my children needs the kindergarten forms filled out, and if I take her to the Family Practice doctor, I plan to type up my own "Refusal to Vaccinate" statement. Otherwise, I've also been advised (by a Vaccine Safety group) that I can cross off anything I don't agree with on the APP form before signing. I can also avoid the whole AAP form by taking my child to an alternative doctor like my chiropractor. He said he frequently completes school physicals.

[Steve]

Time to switch to family practitioners, everyone.

[Mary Webster]

http://tinyurl.com/4ddst5

The American Academy of Pediatrics has suggested pediatricians ask parents refusing immunizations to sign a Refusal to Vaccinate form which states, in part, “I know that failure to follow the recommendations about vaccination may endanger the health and life of my child and others with which my child might come into contact.”

Parents presented with such a document undoubtedly understand that they are under no obligation to sign it. In fact, no attorney worth her weight in briefs would recommend parents ever sign a statement admitting they are knowingly and willingly putting their child in harms way. And, as this form appears to be nothing more than a prelude to being permanently escorted from the practice, why would anyone risk child endangerment or neglect charges by signing it?

Since parents are not asked to sign a similar statement when vaccinating their children, the implications are clear - as far as pediatricians are concerned, vaccines protect children – not harm them. And, by the way, if pediatricians are genuinely concerned about the possibility of litigation, it may be time for them to seriously consider adding such a form to their repertoire.

In an effort to assist physicians who obviously have little time for such matters, the AAP has also provided a list of the various codes to be used when completing the necessary insurance forms following a visit in which a parent or caregiver refuses immunizations. Silly me, I was under the impression that these codes were intended to identify patients’ diseases and conditions diagnosed by clinicians – not to specify, according to the doctor, reasons a parent or caregiver is refusing a particular treatment like immunizations. I was unaware refusing vaccines had become a “codeable” condition.

For more eye-popping info, visit:

http://tinyurl.com/5le65p

This entire situation becomes more baffling by the day.

[Kelly Langston]

I see Mr. Offit's book is their number one recommendation (at the bottom of the form letter).

We need to act. This is unacceptable.

[Josh Day]

I may not have been clear in what I was saying.

I'm curious to read the memo, minutes from the meeting, or whatever that states the AAP's new five points of action against non-compliant parents.

Were these five points laid out here -- http://www.cispimmunize.org/pro/pro_main.html?http&&&www.cispimmunize.org/pro/ParentalRefusaltoVaccinate.html

I didn't read every pdf file listed there so I may have missed it.

I happen to know a few things about our very complicated state and federal laws, and I know one of the very few attorneys in the country who specify in vaccine exemptions and the murky legal rights we have to protect us.

If these points are indeed policy (as opposed to "suggestions" or someone's opinion), then this is explosive and every parent needs to prepare.

DSS and CPS threats are very real. Though oftentimes the agency will just laugh at the doc or nurse who alerts them to someone not vaccinating, there are individual agents and offices that may aggressively investigate and take action.

I cannot reiterate how important it is to understand what you are signing AND NEVER SIGN ANYTHING YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH, or anything that states you are "neglectful."

What these guys are doing is a form of coercive intimidation. It's essentially extortion... I'll make you sign this even though you are adhering to your perfectly legal exemption, and if you don't, your kid gets no medical treatment and I'll call the cops on you.

Criminal erosion of parental and guardian rights aside, this is extortion at its absolute ugliest.

Know the laws in your state. This is so important, especially now. If this is indeed policy and we begin to see the effects of this new campaign as parents do begin to be investigated, then it's come to the point where parents (whose financial situation allows, unfortunately) need to consider lawyering up just so they can take their kids to the damned doctor.

Also look into conversation recording laws in your state. In my state it's legal to record a conversation as long as one party consents to the recording... which of course is you, the one with the recorder.

If these medical nazis want to play hardball, they're going to learn real fast that the ball flies down a two-way street.

[kat23]

Wow, truly, WOW.

Great post, thank you.

[karenatlanta]

Pediatricians who need 'em!
We are in the market for a nice family practitioner.
Our pediatrician is as pushy as a used car salesman with Flu shots.
This year when we declined over Mercury and the wrong strain after recommending my sick child be vaccinated I knew we were done with these bozos.
Give me a real doctor Pllllease!

[Heidi Roger]

Julie, Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! :o) Can't wait to go to my son's pediatrician for a camp physical now, should be quite a visit since he is 13.5 and hasn't been vaccinated since age 2. Who does the President of the AAP "report" to? Maybe it is time to harrass them a bit.
thanks for the great article!

[Carolyn Weisberg]

I wonder what doctors would say if parents pulled out a form for them to sign saying,
Anne Dachel said:

"I, Dr. ....., take full responsibility if this child regresses into any neuro-developmental disorder following this vaccination."

WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA! Let's print these up and put them in every vaccinne clinic and every doc's office. . .

[nhokkanen]

I used to naively believe the PR campaigns of trade groups like the AAP... that they truly cared about the health of all children and families. Sadly, trade groups exist primarily to protect their dues-paying members and massage their collective media messages to promote self-serving legislation and policies. Acting like jack-booted thugs makes that all the more clear.

[Laura Cellini]

Julie,

once again your common sense mom/teacher perspective hits the nail on the head. Too bad the AAP is in our backyard, man I wish they'd move. Years ago when negotiating our thimerosal bill, they refused to support informed consent for pregnant women who could receive a thimerosal containing flu vaccine. Wonder if any recall taking the Hypocratic Oath?

[Lisa]

Ground them, send them to bed without dinner. Bad parents for asking questions!!

The AAP should really work on the issues on the bottom half of the article - not the strategy from the top half. They have serious issues to address - like safety for ALL CHILDREN. Not belittling parents who are getting smarter by the day.

[Twyla]

Excellent article. Thank you so much for putting it so well. Very upsetting!

I wonder what most pediatricians think of this. I bet that the AAP is out of step with many of them. I know at least one pediatrician who is expressing concern about the vaccine schedule. He said something along the lines of, "We are scientists. We have to look at the facts. We just had another patient diagnosed with diabetes..."

Pediatricians see what is happening. Many of them understand. They are in a very difficult position, because they are protected from liability if they follow the CDC's schedule, but if they suggest slowing down the schedule and a patients has a rare complication of a vaccine-preventable disease, I doubt that they are protected from malpractice liability. Many of them seem to be letting the parents decide.

One would hope that the combination of a conscience and the legal protection from liability for over-vaccinating their patients would enable pediatricians to speak out about vaccines, but that does not seem to be happening -- with a few rare exceptions.

Good points, Jeanne and Ann D.!

[Kelli Ann Davis]

Josh,

I don't think this is a *new plan* per se because everything Julie's listed we are already advocating/pushing for in the media, on Capitol Hill, with government officials, etc...

I think the point Julie's trying to make in reaction to the new AAP campaign is it's time parents get equally tough -- instead of being *reactive* to the new AAP campaign she's suggesting we become more *proactive* and tell our Pediatricians *point blank* that we refuse to vaccinate until they provide the answers to legitimate safety questions based on sound science.

[Lawrence]

Shouldn't you also request that the doctors do an immunological profile before and after the vaccinations? And also test for any potential underlying viral issues like HHV-6?

And if the doctor won't do that wouldn't it be wise to find another doctor?

If parents start pooling the pre-vaccine and post-vaccine immunological and viral data, we might get a better picture of what is going on.

The data might also be important for any future vaccine lawsuits.

[Anne Dachel]

I wonder what doctors would say if parents pulled out a form for them to sign saying,
"I, Dr. ....., take full responsibility if this child regresses into any neuro-developmental disorder following this vaccination."

Curious,
Anne Dachel
Media editor

[Josh Day]

Julie, is there some sort of memo or pdf file out there that states these points? What's the source for this new attack plan?

If this is indeed true, I predict many pediatricians simply won't follow it. I know mine won't.. at least I HOPE she won't, and would bet that she wouldn't simply because she seems to be a genuinely caring person at heart.

This could backfire in so many ways.

And one result from all this, if this is designed to be a new policy, I can guarantee is a mass exodus of parents from pediatricians and to nurse practitioners or family practices.

[AJ]

Julie Obradovic, this is a bombshell of an article. Well done.

[Jeanne]

I'm sorry. I'm confused. So the CDC is telling us we should sit down and talk to our kids' docs; but the docs we're supposed to be talking to are now instructed by the AAP to ridicule us, give us the boot, and report us? Geez... seems like a serious case of conflicting stories. Which one is it? Is the AAP trying to make the CDC look like "good guys" (did Hell freeze over?). What is going on?

[kim]

Are we going to have a call in campaign about this? Our phone campaign days have gotten attentions before...