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    February 12, 2008

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    Twyla

    Ben -
    There is a whole lot of evidence supporting the belief that vaccines can cause autism.

    Part of the evidence consists of thousands of similar "anecdotal" reports told by credible parents who witnessed their toddlers' vaccine reactions followed by loss of speech and social skills, often accompanied by medical issues indicative of immune system problems.

    To summarily dismiss these thousands of independently told stories is, frankly, despicable. These accounts should be the basis of scientific study -- not just epidemiology but studies of the injured children themselves to better understand what has happened to their immune, nervous, gastrointestinal, and biochemical systems.

    Parents have seen what they have seen. Are you saying that parents should just sit on their hands and wait for scientists to take action?

    If we say that nothing should be studied until it is scientifically proven, then nothing new will ever be learned. It is a Catch-22 "We don't believe it because it hasn't been proven because we are not studying it because we don't believe it because it hasn't been proven..."

    There actually are a whole lot of studies demonstrating various pieces of the puzzle, such as studies showing inflammation in the autopsied brains of people with autism, increased rates of seizures after multi-viral vaccines, and toxic effects of miniscule amounts of mercury on the immune and nervous systems.

    If you to to www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm you can see the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services own table of vaccine injuries. "The Table lists and explains injuries/conditions that are presumed to be caused by vaccines." These injuries include "Encephalopathy (or encephalitis)", which is inflammation of the brain, and "Anaphylaxis or anaphylactic shock", which is an extreme reaction of the immune system.

    Go to www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec02/offit_smallpox.html for Dr. Paul Offit's description of the risks of the smallpox vaccine: "they can get an infection of the brain, called encephalopathy or encephalitis. If they have eczema, they can have sometimes a severe and occasionally fatal disease called eczema vaccinatum... In patients who have decreased capacities to fight infection, there is a disease called 'progressive vaccinia' where in fact the disease is overwhelming and it is the cause of death."

    Dr. Offit goes on to say that the other vaccines are lower risk than the smallpox vaccine, but as babies receive more and more vaccines -- often many at one time -- and at such early ages -- it is quite believable that more babies would be adversely affected.

    It is already an established fact that vaccines can cause brain damage, seizures, and disruption of the immune system. So it is very credible that vaccines could cause autism. The only reason our agencies are in a state of paralytic denial is because they don't want to admit to being at fault for inadequate monitoring of vaccine safety as more & more vaccines have been added to the schedule during the past 25 years.

    We don't fully understand the mechanisms of vaccine injury. It appears that there is not just one factor involved. Research needs to take into account that there are probably multiple causes of autism, and that individuals can have very different responses to vaccines and environmental toxins.

    Ben, you sound just like the doctors in my recent story "Does Your Child Suffer from GLS?" at www.ageofautism.com/2008/11/does-your-child.html.

    I'm so sick and tired of the argument that parents should be ignored and only scientits should be listened to. Scientists are only human, and they have prejudices like all other humans. We have never elected them to be in charge of reality. Yes, we read the studies. Studies are very important. But when studies are not done on the issues that parents witness, that does not mean that parent perceptions are false.

    John Stone

    Ben, I think you are absolutely wrong. As a matter of fact when vaccine damage cases have been awarded, traditionally it has been on an individual basis. So it is not very plausible now to turn round and tell people they are mistaken because of massaged statistics. Also the science is warped by putting the onus of proof on the parents - it is a culture of hit and run. When the officials stop lecturing and start listening they will become credible.

    MinorityView

    Christina T.,
    It is against the law in Illinois for CPS to open a file based only on a family skipping vaccines. You'll have to file an exemption for school. I used to work for a private school in IL and we had a drawer full of exemptions. One less thing to worry about!

    Ben

    Why is it that as Americans, we tend to believe generalizations, vague broad generalizations. By attributing Autism to immunizations, simply by the saying the increase in Austim must be linked to the increase in immunizations is lacking. We might as well link Autism to the sale of SUV's or the increase in the cost of gas.

    While the first person evidence seems persuasive (thats why they use that method in infomercials), it is scientifically lacking.

    Parents/relatives caregivers of people with autism should become truly educated. It would be nice to see actual scienticts and doctors supporting your claim with scientific evidence and studies to back it up. This is a big debate, and fighting it with anecdotal evidence is one of the reasons the scientific and medical communities are not listening. If you were to say, 'I have a master's in biochemistry and I've ran 500 experiments on a random sample of 10,000 people, and the evidence shows there is a correlation'... you'd get listeners.

    SWullaert

    I cannot thank you enough for this info! We have just been informed that our 4 year old son has 'sensory issues' (what the extent of these 'issues' are, we are still finding out, but AS has not yet been ruled out). I stumbled upon your site looking for something to explain to me what is going on with my son's body-- just in time too-- he is scheduled to have shots tomorrow morning. It goes without saying that he will NOT be receiving those shots now. If only I could have found this info years ago (I know, hindsight is always 20/20). Thank you again.
    And might I say, maybe parents should start printing these articles and "accidentally" leave them in their Peds waiting rooms, etc. If they (the Docs) find it okay to continue to push these vaccines, isn't it okay for all of the parents to be informed on just what is going into their children's bodies?!

    SWullaert

    I cannot thank you enough for this info! We have just been informed that our 4 year old son has 'sensory issues' (what the extent of these 'issues' are, we are still finding out, but AS has not yet been ruled out). I stumbled upon your site looking for something to explain to me what is going on with my son's body-- just in time too-- he is scheduled to have shots tomorrow morning. It goes without saying that he will NOT be receiving those shots now. If only I could have found this info years ago (I know, hindsight is always 20/20). Thank you again.
    And might I say, maybe parents should start printing these articles and "accidentally" leave them in their Peds waiting rooms, etc. If they (the Docs) find it okay to continue to push these vaccines, isn't it okay for all of the parents to be informed on just what is going into their children's bodies?!

    Christina T

    Thank you for taking the time to put this information out there. Me & my husband are both on the road to finding out if our previously healthy 3 and 5 years old son may or may not have mild Autism.

    I pray they do not but what really pisses me off is that I go the extra mile to protect my kids from toxins in the home (I shop with Melaleuca and DO NOT use reg. store products AT ALL for the last 2.5 years since I found them) and here I get to find out that the VERY items I am trying to protect them from in household cleaning products are in their shots from the doctors office???

    But should I refuse to give them their shots to protect them from these products what will happen? They will be taken away by CPS and given the shots anyway... so in order to protect my children & their asthma from these things in cleaning products I must inject them into their bodies... I'm sorry but there is something SEVERELY WRONG HERE...

    I would like to know if anyone ever arranges protests or marches in the Chicago land area as I would love to be a part of that to at least know that SOME type of media attention will be being brought to the dangers at hand.

    Maybe if there are enough protests at the local CDC offices, town halls, & "healthy kids clinics" perhaps something will be done...

    It has worked in the past BUT everyone involved must have a steel resolve to continue to protest until something is done.

    I don't know about you but I am there if anyone else wants to do this as well... In fact I do know that there is a CDC lab located in Lyons, IL right on Ogden Ave. If anyone wants to set up a protest date & time please feel free to send me a message at giftsgalore60534@yahoo.com

    Sincerely Concerned,
    Christina

    Jody Borgman

    I would like to make a comment on thimersol. After reading the book Evidence of Harm by Mr.Kirby I was shocked. I had two stillborns and was given Rhogam ingections during and after each pregnancy. My son was stillborn at 8 months in 1985 and then my daughter was stillborn at 8 months in 1990. After my 4th RHogam shot I had fallen into a deep sleep and slept for days without waking up. In 1993 again I became pregnant and had a son by c-section at 8 months, and the same in 1996 and had a daughter by c-section. After some research on my own like the medical book I own copyrighted in 1927 and how it talks about the injudious use of Mercury in medicine no wonder they changed the name to thimersol! I also found out that every RHogam shot prior to 1996 had thimersol in it, and given to early in child birth, autopsies will show the devastating effects our little babies had suffered. What about the parents of SID babies. Thank GOD you do not hear of this that often anymore because science has perfected the amount of mercury to put into vaccines, just enough to mame and not kill and totally ruin family after family. I cannot believe all science is getting away with and I no so much more. If it is at all possible I would really like a chance to speak to Mr. Kirby or anyone else who advocates for victims rights. I believe I could shed some light on alot of issue and some not even being addressed yet. I would like to help please call me at (815)589-2402.
    Thank You,
    Jody Borgman
    P.S my two living children are affected by the autism spectrum disorders on a functioning level.

    Deborah

    Hey Researcher, How about we apply your standard of "false info" equals total discredit for everyone who criticizes vaccines to the CDC? Only flipped. The CDC publishes an awful lot of inaccurate, unreferenced information, most of it pushing parents to vaccinate their babies with more and more vaccines. This blog has three articles on CDC misinformation:
    http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress documenting come of the false information on vaccines published by the CDC. I'm okay with having this standard go both ways, how about you?

    researcher

    The original statement was not to debate or discuss all vaccine ingredients it was to point out that you erroneously put in a national ad that vaccines contain antifreeze and they do not. Ethylene glycol is used in the production of SOME ( a few) vaccines but IS NOT contained in the actual vaccine.
    You also previously wrote that aluminum is a preservative, not true.
    Your Ad was provocative and correctly points to an upward trend in the amount of vaccines being administered. However, use of misinformation and urban legends as fact discredits your message. It is blatant National publication of false information that discredits the anti-vaccine movement as a whole!

    Kelli Ann Davis

    Vaccines do contain phenoxylethanol: This is found in topical antiseptics and also in facial lotions. The amount used in a vaccine as a preservative is enough to kill bacteria that could grow in the vaccine. NOT ENOUGH TO KILL A HUMAN .

    So, in other words: breathing = not dead = safe.

    I hate to break the news, but I don’t think your “standard of safety” would last one day in a court of law. If it did, than all those Vioxx cases for INJURED individuals would have been thrown out in a heartbeat.

    A@T

    "Ethylene glycol C2H4(OH)2 is in antifreeze and it is used in the production of vaccine viruses that will be inactivated (VAQTA/Hep A) for instance. Ethylene glycol is not even listed in the vaccine constituents so any amount left is too small to even quantify".
    Perhaps it's me but didn't they just say it IS in vaccines? He indicates it is a very small amount. I want to know how much is ok to inject into an infant. He forgot to tell us that. I know the answer anyway-it's NONE. Of COURSE he didn't mention the other dangerous chemicals. The anti vaccine-safety crowd NEVER takes the actual issue in it's entirety on, always just a piece here and a piece there. Smoke and mirrors, bob and weave, trick the ignorant, it doesn't fly anymore. Hey researcher, why don't you research why the vaccine producers and/or the CDC havn't done a REAL study comparing the health of unvaccinated populations in the U.S. against the vaccinated.

    JB Handley

    Dearest Researcher:

    You state:

    Vaccines DO NOT contain antifreeze!

    Later, you state:

    "Ethylene glycol C2H4(OH)2 is in antifreeze and it is used in the production of vaccine viruses"

    If you don't already work in the communications office of the CDC, you should. Thanks for the entertaining post. And, I noticed you only mention antifreeze.

    I guess the ether, mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde get your seal of approval?

    JB

    Researcher

    I saw your ad in the USA today.
    You stated that antifreeze is a vaccine ingredient. Vaccines DO NOT contain antifreeze! Vaccines do contain phenoxylethanol: This is found in topical antiseptics and also in facial lotions. The amount used in a vaccine as a preservative is enough to kill bacteria that could grow in the vaccine. Not enough to kill a human. It is found in many lotions including "organic" face lotions by companies such as Avalon Organics.

    Ethylene glycol C2H4(OH)2 is in antifreeze and it is used in the production of vaccine viruses that will be inactivated (VAQTA/Hep A) for instance. Ethylene glycol is not even listed in the vaccine constituents so any amount left is too small to even quantify. Poly Ethylene glycol (PEG) is used during manufacture to precipitate virus and the virus is then ultra purified with high performance size exclusion chromatography (HPSEC).

    I am astonished that Generation Rescue does not have a fact checker. I am also amazed that you would so carelessly put such blatant misinformation in print nationally. Perhaps with all of the money Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy have donated you could buy a chemistry text book!

    Darrel Crain

    Thank you, thank you, everyone involved in creating and maintaining Age of Autism, a vital resource for anyone concerned about the insanity of one-size-fits-all medicine of any kind.
    A point of correction in this excellent editorial, J.B.: Ethyl mercury (thimerosal) in vaccines is used as a preservative (and a poor one at that). Aluminum is not a preservative, an adjuvant, or substance added to vaccines to "jack up" the immune response. Of course, aluminum is hideously toxic in its own right, and no amount is "safe" to put inside a human being.
    Looking forward to a day when we no longer intentionally put toxins into our kids.

    Mary Harrington

    I'm 55. I can remember my father (a surgeon) giving my sister and me polio vaccines in our kitchen when I was a child. Other than the four vaccines I got from my dad and a TB vaccine I got in 4th grade (that never left me with any scar), that was it! My husband's brother is 54. No question he has always shown signs of Autism, but never to the extent that my husband and I ever saw in our son when my son was 18 months old and had just received all of the mandated vaccines. That was in 1991. Now of course, with the studies coming out fast and furious, one day saying no link to vaccines and the next day saying it might be part of the mother's immune system during pregnancy, I am constantly on a roller coaster ride of emotions. I finally achieved pregnancy at age 37. I had loved and consumed thousands of pounds of swordfish, tuna and halibut all of my life. My mouth is full of metal fillings. But what sticks in my gut is my efforts at trying to convince my own obgyn that I didn't need to be vaccinated with Rhogam when I was pregnant because my husband was also RH negative blood (that I knew for a fact), but if they didn't want to believe me, just have him tested. My M.D. wouldn't continue being my M.D. if I refused the Rhogam. Later I was induced with 4 times the normal amount of Pitocin. When my son was born and got Apghar scores of 9 and then 10 I felt I had been given a miracle. But still worried. I was right to worry and even though he is now 17 and still non-verbal and we are home schooling, I am still worried and feeling guilty. I wish I could somehow transfer all of this self-inflicted guilt onto the CDC, AAP and Pharmaceutical Companies, but that will never happen. Thank you so much for all you are doing to bring us the truth!

    Gayatri

    I just wanted to reiterate that I am extremely positive that I did treat my son during his recent illness with the chlamydia protocol (as I got it off the Internet) and he responded to it extremely well. I am not sure where the chlamydia came from as opinions as to whether it is genetic or not differed, or shall I say, were varied and uncertain. I believe there is something called an "acute" miasm in homeopathy and I believe chlamydia does constitute an acute miasm. It would be helpful for everyone to take this seriously and have their child investigated for this rather dreadful and virulent infection. You don't want this sitting around in your child's body.

    Lastly I must say that I have found a profound change in him after this treatment and this is the spirit in which this information is being shared. With manifold wishes for good outcomes for all the kids.

    Gayatri

    Lisa

    Green the vaccines. Thanks for putting this out there.
    It is an excellent concept that simplifies a very important thought for protecting children.

    Diane

    Thank you.
    Just wondering....Does anyone in our situation want to bang their head against the wall a few thousand times for following their doctor's advice and agreeing to the crazy amount of vaccines? I don't mean a woe is me kind of thing, because my daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me, but I am so, so worried about her future. She's in recovery, but definitely not recovered.
    I pray that your efforts to get the word out saves thousands and thousands of kids. I wish I had seen it 5 years ago.

    Gayle

    Thank you so much to Generation Rescue for placing the ad and to Age of Autism for notifying everyone to purchase USA Today. I hope that other parents wake up and take notice of what they are injecting into their children, and themselves, before they are adversely affected, too. It is hard to fathom that what is so highly recommended by doctors and our government can be so toxic and harmful to humanity. It is unfortunate that most of the people who understand the damage that can be done by vaccines are those for whom the damage has already occurred in a life altering way. God bless you all for your courage and understanding.

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