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MMR AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT AUTISM

Vote_yes By Dan Olmsted

Does the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine cause autism? I vote yes.

Of course, that’s just one man’s opinion – but one who’s spent the last three years listening to parents and enlightened pediatricians and combing through adverse events reports and just generally trying to think for himself.

Right below this post is yet another study seeming to exonerate the MMR. That sure sounds familiar – the CDCAAPFDAIOMETC have already given it multiple clean bills of health. And manufacturer Merck says no studies show any link to autistic regression.

On the right hand side of our home page is a collection of my Age of Autism columns for UPI. The one titled Pox – Part 1 of 7 installments --  sealed the deal for me as far as the MMR is concerned. I’m not going to repeat myself here except to say, there’s every reason to worry about the interaction among live viruses when you stick ‘em in the same shot and inject ‘em into 12-month-old kids. Especially kids whose immune systems are already shot thanks to vaccine mercury and other toxins, thanks to the selfsame CDCAAPFDAIOMETC.

When Merck decided to toss the chickenpox virus into the MMR mix, kids started developing autism in clinical trials; that wasn’t reported to the FDA before the drug was approved because, Merck said, the parents never got around to mentioning that their kids had regressed into autism. A few months after the Pox series appeared, Merck suspended production of that four-in-one vaccine, claiming they’d run low on chickenpox vaccine even as they launched a new shot for shingles that contains gobs of it.

The cluelessly credulous mainstream media did its usual thing – they essentially reprinted the press release about the “vaccine shortage.” Now they have a new study to “report,”  reaffirming the MMR’s safety and reassuring parents.

Never mind that Merck and the pharmaceutical industry are starting to show a pattern and practice that ought to make anyone stop and think before they become stenographers for the drug companies: There’s Vioxx with its $5 billion settlement and suppressed data about the heart attacks that fell just outside the study window, causing the New England Journal of Medicine to complain; and Zetia with its delayed results that showed no protection against heart attacks even as the company convinced millions of doctors and patients to switch from cholesterol-lowering drugs that actually did work; and Eli Lilly with its Zyprexa side effects and the looming possibility of a $1 billion fine and a criminal misdemeanor plea because they tried to get doctors to prescribe it for conditions for which it was not approved. Not very nice. Not very nice at all.

And never mind that the FDA has all but admitted it's so overwhelmed and underfunded it can't reasonably be expected to do its job (the one about making sure drugs, including vaccines, are safe and effective).

The tragedy is that if the people who are supposed to protect our kids had relied less on dubious data produced by “experts” with blatant conflicts of interest, and more on common sense and the evidence of their own senses, the whole autism debacle of the 1990s through today might have been averted.

In an article titled “Adverse Events,” I wrote about some of the early warnings on file with the federal government’s VAERS database.

Here’s a report from 1992, listing Feb. 21 as both "vaccination date" and "adverse event date" for a 1-year-old boy: "Patient received MMR vaccination and experienced fever, autistic behaviors, encephalitic condition, began to tune out; sound sensitivity, hand-flapping, wheel-spinning, nighttime sweats, appetite increase."

The child's diagnoses included autism, encephalopathy (brain swelling), mental retardation, personality disorder and speech disorder.

Another report: Two days after being vaccinated in August 1994 a 1-year-old girl experienced "low fever, much discomfort. Patient lay in bed and cried and moaned; three-four days post-vaccination, rash traveled over patient's body and lasted at least one week. Within six weeks of vaccination patient was observed as losing previously gained language and social skills; diagnosed autistic."

Soon after the article was published I heard from the mother who filed that report, and I wrote a follow-up story (“Case Number 88924”): “The patient so clinically summarized in that report, Mary Jo Silva realized with a start, was her 1-year-old daughter Carmen, who fell ill the same day she got the MMR -- measles-mumps-rubella -- and Hepatitis B vaccinations at age 1.”

That’s bad.  But here's the killer: A 1994 report filed by a California physician citing 10 -- yes, 10 -- children "who received vaccination and (were) diagnosed with autism and encephalopathy." That doctor reported "there are currently 10 cases of autism in children who received DPT/OPV/MMR at 15-18 months."

The real tragedy here is the dates – 1992 to 1994, just as the big wave of new mercury vaccines was crashing into America’s kids. These were but a few of the many, many missed opportunities to do what medical professionals are supposed to do – be alert and suspicious, notice something new and grab hold of it till the truth yells Uncle.

Instead, the person who took that report about 10 kids with autism who shared a specific vaccination pattern took a dismissive tone: "Dr. ... is not treating physician and does not possess any original records; unclear whether reporter [the doctor, who was identified and could have been contacted] is suggesting possible causal association."

Well, it’s pretty clear to me – doctor is suggesting causal association.

And so am I. Lest the CDC miss the point again, let's repeat it: Yes, the MMR causes autism.

--

Dan Olmsted is Editor of Age of Autism

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as with any medication there is ALWAYS side effects and I strongly believe one of the side effects of MMR is Autism . Some of us get the bad effects of the MMR shot some of dont , it all depends on how our immune tolerate it. I am a mother of three children, 2 of whom is autistic , one was never breast fed and the other one was exclusively brestfed.
so what the child was feed has nothing to do with autism .... MMR is the main cultprit of Autism . I am sure the government is hiding something from us , they better speak up now and clean up their act before the norm of society become Autism. Its already 1/50 people , in the next 10 years i am sure is gonna be 1/1 . People in power need to save our children , safeguard our future and create a better human not kill their brain cells by trying to prevent measels mumps or rubella ...come on u smart scientist its the 21st century u all can do better than the MMR vacines.... every month there is a new piece of technology slapping us in the face and u so called great scientist is still struggling with decades old MMR vacines. please for heaven sake stop playing with our kids brain, u have caused enough damage to the worlds population already , its time for a change, time to fix ur mess and come clean. DONT LET ANOTHER CHILD BE DIAGONISED WITH AUTISM , PLEASE GIVE THESE KIDS A NORMAL HEALTHY LIFE THEY RIGHTFULLY DESERVED.

please stop scaring people with non-scientific facts.
(of course, I know this comment will NOT be posted, so don't bother)

miseals-mumps-rubella should be abolished.

Concerned Mother and Skeptic
I know you are scared and in a tough place.
I did not have a bit of trouble with the MMR shot - but you should know that they increased the mumps part of the MMR in the 90s and just a couple of years ago they reduced it again.
That does not mean that there is still some of those high mump count MMR still around - waste not - is the mind set when it comes to all vaccines.

And it could also be that after all the alumiunium and mercury that is in the Hep B, DPT, DTap, chicken pox and all the booster there of - that the immune system of a baby cannot handle the MMR live virus.

But your thoughts on these kids that react to the vaccines were going to react to something on down the road anyway --
Well we all get twisted up in our thinking sometimes.

My husband was 34 when he reacted to his tetanus shot (after many) and dignosed with "Acquired" mitchondria cytopath - he owned his own home, had a nice wife, two kids, a small farm, a very good job as an engineer.

But the docs attitudes - Oh it would have happened anyway - well then let us just give arsenic to all the kids and the ones that survive will be the tough ones that will carry on the next generation of super humans.

Concerned Mother and Skeptic

Thirty years ago autism was a 1 in 10,000 disorder, now its more like 1 in 50. Your government is being very careless with children's lives.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/10/the-naked-cdc-the-truth-about-mmr-or-part-of-it-in-their-own-words.html

Being a first time mom I wonder in a few months what I will do when I have to give my son the MMR shot. After doing so much research I am still at a loss. I mean I want to believe there is no link and countless studies have "proved" it but yet why are there so many stories out there of children affected by the MMR shot. Firstly, I realized you don't get stories on the internet of children who were NOT affected by the MMR shot as why would any one want to read that. Generally, when looking up stories of babies / children who have things go wrong you will get a million stories for every 1 story of a happy / healthy baby because people who have healthy children don't put stories on the internet. There are alot of scaremongers out there on the web, hence why my pediatrician and my OBGYN (when pregnant) told me to stop reading things on the internet.

But after all my research I have a theory I wanted to throw out there - I wonder what if children who do end up authistic or have bad reactions to the MMR shot were already genetically predisposed to autism or the bad reactions and the MMR shot just instigated earlier in their development. Who's to say if those children did not receive the shot that they wouldn't end up authistic anyway? It could have just happened later down the line. It's just a thought. I know we all want to do what's best for our kids, so I am not trying to upset or instigate anything - just my two cents worth! Good luck to all of you wether you immunize or not!

Mikeey....*sigh*. It seems to go: shot then fever then rash then loss of most developed skills AND/OR personality. Do you really think all of these parents are making things up?? If your children didn't suffer the ill effects, then you are one of the many families who go unharmed by vaccines. Your children are vaccinated, I assume, so you have nothing to worry about. My little one had all of her shots until I happened to read about regressive autism. It is NOT worth the risk to me. If she gets measles -slim chance thanks to people like you- the risk of encephelytis is not very high. I would hate to know that I took her in to get her shots one day and that she was completely different the next. I AM taking advantage of herd immunity and I understand that. Until a safer vaccine is produced, I truly don't feel comfortable injecting live viruses into my toddler. She has shown ZERO signs of ill effects after her previous injection visits, but after much RESEARCH I have decided that she will not recieve anymore. That one in so many who suffer 'changes in consciousness and behavior' due to the MMR (as indicated on Merck's website http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_ppi.pdf) are becoming greater and greater as the population grows and as time goes on. I worked for the CDC and I know that their current measure of success is the epidemics they prevent. That is fine, but it was designed when so many people suffered from and spread infectious diseases. Modern medicine was the answer to a huge problem. Now, in our current society, when drugs are almost too prevalent, we are starting to see the adverse effects of MANY of them. It is the new epidemic and it is most horrifying when it affects our children as the parents ultimately make the decision to vaccinate or not. As I have said before, the answer is safer vaccinations, period. If you were cheated out of your childs beautiful personality, you might feel quite differently. Oh and did everyone get the part I JUST mentioned where Merck, the manufacturer of the vaccine, warns about changes in consiousness and behavior??? Here it is again: http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_ppi.pdf

I am NOT having my little one vaccinated. I am not a conspiracy theorist and I have somewhat of a background in research. I will say that it's not about money for Merck (I used to work for the CDC), it is about public health. Merck actually looses money on vaccinations every year by providing so many of them for free. They make their money on other harmful, heavily-advertised drugs. It is just that the CDC and Merck are focused on keeping the majority of the public from certain illnesses and could care less if one child looses his or her personality or potential to a vaccine. As parents, OUR main focus is keeping OUR children safe. If that means keeping the CDC from its goal then so be it. The problem isn't the parents who decide against vaccines.... the problem is the safety of vaccines themselves. If the CDC is truly worried about a measles epidemic, then they will push for safer vaccines. My little bunny is so perfect and wonderful and I happened to start researching this because of a video suggested by Netflix. I am so happy that people take the time to put this information out there. You have really given me the chance to make an informed decision. PS It IS the vaccine that hurts the child. Mercury poisoning has very different characteristics than autism...just didn't want people to start thinking vaccines are safe once the mercury is out.

Utterly false and misinformed. Anecdotal evidence is THE weakest form of evidence possible. I go to bed every night and the sun comes up in the morning, that doesn't mean that my sleeping caused the sun to come up.
This contrived controversy about vaccines and autism is well beyond beating a dead horse. There is greater scientific proof that vaccines have no link to autism than there is proof that HIV is linked to AIDS. Huge sums of money have been poured into major study after study, systematically refuting all the claims that anti-vaccine activists make. Most recently the claim that MMR associated encephalopathy precipitates autism has been debunked.
Please do your research and look at reputable sources, it is easy to find some fringe quack doctor who believes something that is completely unfounded, but there are simply too many bright people who have been long at work on this issue to say that the consensus is wrong because of some anecdotal evidence. Children are dying because of the decisions not to get vaccinated and we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg, vaccinating your child saves lives. Instead of reading about this issue on a clearly biased website please take it up with your pediatrician, as they have no interest other than protecting your child and the population in general.

My child had the mmr & varicella vaccines at the same time. His speech began to gradually regress, by the time he was 20 months he stopped speaking altogether. He had reactions to other vaccines also, however, we did not link it together until later. We do not do boosters, instead we get titers. It is interesting which ones are very high. He has also had 5 cases of 'wild' chicken pox. He has was considered atypical autistic, then PDD. Now, he has improved to asperger's, central auditory processing disorder, dyslexia, and sensory integration disorder. I absolutely believe in a neuroimmunologic response to vaccines. We have lived it.

my son had 7 shots at the age of 2 and yes one of them was the mmr shot. the nurse nor the doctor had documented his shots that day so he had to go repeat the same shots approx. 4 weeks later. my son is now 4 and has autism, mental retardation, and conduct disorder and major tantrums and learning disabilities.

Well Hell, Marshall your comment made.

I agree let let us just not accept any anecdotal data evidence because stats are so much better telling us what is happening in the real world.

Yeap, let's just ignore any anecdotal evidence till the cows come home, or when everybody in America is sick with all kinds of stuff that is really anecdotally related.

Oh, but wait a minute, wait ---- stats are starting to catch up with anecdotal ain't it. What 1 in 10,000 to now a big whoppie 1 out of 100.

I agree with one person near the top said that we do what we think is the best for our children. And really that's all you can do untill they put some more facts out there. I waited till my daughter was 3 to get her MMR and the only reason i got it was because right before that she got a bad rash that they thought was measles but come to find out it wasnt but it still scared me cause i was the one who decided to wait on the shot.and if it was measles it would of been my fault so matter what you do there is always something else you have to worry about. for my next kid i think i would still wait though untill they put for information out there about austim.

I am university student studying to be a clinical psychologist. My education revolves around learning how to provide sound, reliable research. I would urge everyone out there to look up online scientific journals (i.e. a webpage that is NOT covered in advertisements) before drawing such drastic conclusions about this issue.

I know this post won't make it to your comment section, but It's not helpful to base opinion, let alone implied advice about vaccination, on anecdotal data. There is no study, including the now retracted Wakefield study, showing any connection between vaccination and autism.

Linda,
What if the timing wasn't the problem, but the vaccine is the problem?

is it safe to have the mmr at 2yrs old could my child still be affected by autism

My daughter was also diagnosed with eczema immediately after the MMR shot. I never knew until now that the two were linked. My son will not receive this vaccination. I've already taken enough of a gamble with my daughter.

A Doctor once said that vaccines can lead to autism, autoimmune conditions and other diseases. What promoters of vaccines failed to realize is that secretory IgA ( an antibody found predominately in saliva and secretion of the gastrointestinal and respiratory tract mucosa)is the initial normal antibody response to all airborne and ingested pathogens. IgA helps protect against viral infection, agglutinate bacteria, neutralize microbial toxins, and decrease attachment of pathogens to mucosal surfaces. When given the MMR vaccine, IgA is transmuted into IgE or B cells r hyper-activated to produce pathologic amounts of self attacking antibodies as well as suppression of cytotoxic T cells. Bottom line if your child doesn't get autism they will probably get eczema, ADHD, cancer and the list go on. My child had perfect skin until he got the MMR and then his skin started changing. He was later diagnosed with eczema. How many cases of that do we have? I would like to see the numbers.

I have an 8 yr old son with Aspergers, & inattentive ADHD. He started showing Aspie symptoms @ 14 mos, though I didnt recognize them. Sadly, I think we will find its not any one thing, but different things for different kids that are breaking that development cycle. i do believe the MMR may be one of those things. But even a small chance of causing another childs death from horrid illness was enough for me to vaccinate Brahms 2 younger sisters. It comes down to choices, but none of us have the right to disrespect the choices of another parent. its a tough enough job! those that choose against shots like my sister do not do so out of some abusive decision towards their children! We all love our kids and are doing what we believe best...that we all have in common!

to advocate:
131 cases of measles in 2008, you said.
autism is supposed to be 1 person in every 166.
Please explain how the odds are in favor of the vaccine, based on this.

Just wanted to let the guy who "hopes we sleep well at night" know that I rest easy knowing my non-vaccinated children are the healthiest I know. They fight off every illness, we fought off chicken pox last year with oatmeal baths and a touch of Benadryl to soothe the itch....wow, she didn't get, "flesh eating disease" like my doctor said, "could" happen (it can happen to anyone with open sores, it's horrible but extremely rare and chicken pox does not increase the chance of it). PLEASE get educated before judging. The whole insult thing is so old...parents do not take this lightly and we are doing the best thing for our kids.

was autism as prevalent before the 80's as it is now? I think that the answer to this question would zone in on whether or not vacinations are causing problems or not.

I took my son in yesterday for his 1 years shots...I told the doctor that I didn't want the MMR because my cousins son has autism ever since he recieved the MMR. She informed me that if I don't give him the shot by the time he is 15 months that I will have to find another doctor. I was shocked! When did doctor's get the right on telling us parents what we can and can't do with OUR children!?
We as parents need to stand up and fight against the drug companies and the govt. Enough is enough!

My daughter is now 24 years old. She has Aspergers. The day after her MMR, she "came down" with strep throught, vomiting, all of a sudden she was not able to tolorate her formula, got a foggy look in her eyes. Was not acting her normal way. I took her back to the dr and he said someone at home must be sick----bla bla bla. Fast forward 24 years later, she still has the scares on her thigh from the shots........What do you thing?

Rock and a Hard Place is it the Dtap that is due tomorrow? Go to NVIC website and read. You will have to decide. I am sorry. A little asprin if you do decide or ibueprohen. Good luck.

I have a two month old daughter. We have her two month check up tomorrow which includes her 1st round of shots. I just don't know what to do :( I do not want to vaccinate yet but I am scared of what the ped. will tell me tomorrow. Do I vacciante and worry about potential side effects or do I not vaccinate and worry about her cathing a horrible disease?

I have two sons that have PDD and a daughter who just turned one and got her MMR and the next day she started getting really sick, we went back a couple of days later and she had two ear infections and an upper respritory infection. I had spread out the shots and now I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to let her get any more.

"Trust me, leave the thinking to the people like me."

Genius, we actually did do exactly that, for decades.

And that is exactly why we sank in this bottomless pile of shit.


My three year old sweetheart never got vaccinated and she does not have autism and is a healthy child. Because i love my child, i decided to not get her vaccinated because i did not want her to die (where do you think the cause of sids comes from, is it really unexplained, i think its vaccines), and i didnt want to give her autism. I am proud of my daughter and very happy when she smiles for me and tells me "its okay" when im sad.
An infants inmune system is not fully developed when they are born (thats where jaundice comes from, the liver, which detoxifies your body), but they get like 8 vaccines in the first two months of life and about 16 more by their sixth month of live. This is a lot of mercury.
Thankfully you can just go to a lawyer and sign a paper that "for religious reasons"(which now encompass personal believes) you do not vaccinate your child and wont have to. Even atheism is recognized as a religion. This went to court in NY and was amended this way.

if u wait until age 2 or 3 for your child to get mmr shot, will they be protected against autism?

Amanda-
In response to you question if anyone had heard of after MMR child getting Measles and it being related to autism...

That is finding on the original study which pointed autism with MMR. I read the article last night, but unfortunately I didn't bookmark it and don't remember the DR's name (Study done back in 70's??)- it has to do with inflammation from measles which can in turn damage the brain.
Go to Dr. Sear's website and look for articles on vaccinations/autism. It will mention the original study- and explains why Dr. Bob gives the option of alternative vaccination schedule.

My daughter had her 12 month needle in early April. She had the MMR and 15 days later broke out with a rash all over her body. Bloodwork confirmed that it was Measles. The doctors informed me that there had not been a case of measles in this city for years....I DO believe it was caused by the MMR vaccine. I am wondering if anyone has heard of this happening and if it is related to autism. My daughter will not be getting the 18 month needle, as I fear what the reaction to it may be.

I'm sorry, I meant to post the quoted source: GeniusIQ160.
Also, I meant to say that DOCTORS generally are trying to help.
Sorry for the confusion.

"Trust me, leave the thinking to the people like me. I am serious here. There are people capable of using scientific method and objectivity, and there are people with average and below intelligence who go on witch hunts for mysterious enemies (such as vaccines) based on trendiness and plain stupidity.

Suggestion: Read an actual science textbook or professional journal regarding this issue. No, I do not mean Discover Magazine. Read something respected and used by actual scientists."


Um, okay, what about Thalidimide? Or 1960's X-ray treatments? You think the average person doesn't know as much as you do, but these were accepted treatments of their time. Yes, we know more now. But that doesn't mean we know it ALL now. I say, approach anything injected or administered to your child with cautious skepticism. Generally, they are trying to do the right thing, but most are too busy to really study the studies, and they rely on their gut.

Anytime you go to a doctor based on another persons reasons, you are at risk. A child knows no better, so they go based on another persons reasons. Yes, if the child is sick and shows signs of it, he/she must go. But, there in no preventive anything out there in the world. Everything that is handed out, is produced so that it can generate an income in the future. Kind of like growing flowers from seeds. The human body is so genetically perfected that if you listen to it, it will tell you when it needs assistance and except for cuts that need to be stitched, bones that need to be realigned/reset, organs that need to be removed, and drugies needing their prescriptions refilled, there is absolutely no need to seek medical assistance. Especially, since I just seen a clip on AOL that showed a hospital harvesting body parts on a person who was clinically, brain dead. They used to do this with cars that were totaled in the 70s.

I think that alot of people are getting confused here.

As the ed says, thimerosal has never been put into live vaccines. Obviously injecting mercury into people, no matter how much, is not a good thing. Hence why they are now phasing it out.

There are plenty of people who are saying what I am about to say, but here goes:

There is no link between autism and the MMR triple vaccine.

One of the only studies to have shown this link (by studies I mean of more than 1 person) was by Andrew Wakefield. This study has now been totally discredited as false.

Several large studies have shown that the MMR is not linked to autism. There are countries where MMR has been used for years and autism levels are falling, and there are countries where autisms levels are rising and the MMR has not been used for years.

And to the poster who recommends using homeopathic "medicine" to treat children instead of conventional medicine and vaccines- I hope you sleep well at night, as I would worry about my children realising one day the danger I put them in and them leaving me and never coming back.

Our son developed problems within 24 hours of his MMR. He stopped talking and walking and started screaming. Screaming which lasted for over 2 years. For us there is NO debate on what happened to our child. It took over 3 years to get a diagnosis of autism due to his regression. Children don't regress into autism don't we all know. I don't care what anyone thinks, our child (who he was) died that day and was replaced with someone else. We love our son, but mourn who he was. This is an atrocity that needs to end. We haven't immunized a child of our since and the two we didn't are our healthiest children by far! Thank you for the article. I hope there are people who will listen.

"Trust me, leave the thinking to the people like me."

Gatagorra's $6M man entry in another thread just lost top spot for funniest post this week.

GenuisIQ160 - wrap your superior intellect around this:

Dilbert's Boss: "I've hired the Dogbert 'Touchy-Feely' Institute to teach us about teamwork"
Dogbert: "We'll start with an exercise about trust. I want each of you to sign blank checks and give them to me."
Dilbert: "What will this teach us about trust?"
Dogbert: "It will teach you that trust is an excellent quality for others to have."


GeniusIQ160, my husband has an even higher IQ than you- I think I'll listen to him, thanks. Please go back to your delusions of grandeur of being a supreme being and stay off of AoA unless you have something of worth to add. We're used to insults and disbelief on this site. You are not impressing anyone.

Rosita,

Thank you for stopping by!

You're right--the side effects of vaccination are NOT rare.

You don't need to be "torn" between opposing theories: just educate yourself.

You can start at www.vaccinationnews.com or www.insidevaccines.com. Vaccines can cause death and disabilities, including autism, and they can trigger chronic diseases, including seizure disorders, asthma, and life-threatening allergies.

Look around you at all the chronically sick and disabled children and young adults today. It *wasn't* like this when I was young. Things have changed in the last 20 to 30 years, and most of this chronic disease and terrible disability in our children can be linked to overvaccination.

Why vaccinate your child against diseases that are rare, or that your child has little risk of being exposed to?

Why vaccinate against three diseases at once, when this is much more likely to cause serious damage than any of the individual diseases themselves, even if your child *does* catch them?

Please check back in and let us know how you are doing!

I'm sure your doctor has the very best intentions, but pediatricians are very much in denial about the true risks of vaccination.

I have a three month old precious girl named Eva. She has not yet been injected/vaccinated. I know too mothers with autistic children, both of whom claim that the symptoms started within 24 hours of vaccination. I'm torn between to opposing theories. My daughter's doctor said she did vaccinate her children becuase she would rather act to prevent a disease, rather than not act to prevent a rare side-effect. I get the impression that the side-effects are not RARE and I refused to administer the vaccines that day, without discussing it with my husband. I was vaccinated and am breastfeeding and my child should be recieving immune support from me.

My husband and I strongly believe the MMR causes autism. Obviously, it doesn't cause it for every child but to me there is proof that the vaccines is not safe for children. We refuse to put our daughter at risk! We have also spaced out her other vaccinations. Her doctor keeps telling us we should vaccinate her against Hep B (a disease I did not have at birth and do not have) for daycare. Since she's not in daycare she can wait until she is a teenager for the vaccine. We also decided against vaccinating her against rotavirus which she can get anyway. At her one year visit, we are just saying no to the MMR and Varicella. The doctor is well aware of how we feel. When he mentions other vaccines we say "no thank you!" I undersntad doctors need to mention it but if we give our daughter the MMR and she gets sick the same doctor won't be holding our hands throughout the process so I say do what is best for your child.

It is hilarious that my intelligence is being made fun of here due to my criticism of anecdotal evidence. A vast majority of scientists are on my side. Perhaps that is due to the fact that they, like me, have the intelligence to see the necessity of scientific method and not the emotionally-driven anecdotal "evidence" of paranoid mothers who learned their "science" from TV shows.

Trust me, leave the thinking to the people like me. I am serious here. There are people capable of using scientific method and objectivity, and there are people with average and below intelligence who go on witch hunts for mysterious enemies (such as vaccines) based on trendiness and plain stupidity.

Suggestion: Read an actual science textbook or professional journal regarding this issue. No, I do not mean Discover Magazine. Read something respected and used by actual scientists.

Hey Genius, everyone who smokes does not get lung cancer. So do cigarettes cause lung cancer?

Your IQ alone does not do the trick, you need to apply it intelligently. Perhaps with common sense?

Geniusiq160 -- but wait, there's more!

This reluctance to study individual children has been aroung for a while -- for example, go to www.putchildrenfirst.org/chapter6.html for a discussion of the 2004 IOM report which is often pointed to as "proof" that vaccines don't cause autism, including this:
____

The committee refused to look at hundreds of case reports showing the relationship between vaccinations and autism.

Dr. Johnston: Barbara Loe Fisher [NVIC] could give you names. Mrs. Fisher said she had cases. I think she came up to say if you needed any cases to demonstrate the points, you could have them.

Dr. McCormick: She was demonstrating causality. She was taken by your case series that you did-the Guillaume Barre (sic) and whatever, the tetanus. She was all ready to get you cases to prove causality.

Dr. Wilson: Well, let's see them.

Dr. McCormick: Let's not do that. Do you have a free weekend that you want to plod through them?

- IOM Committee Meeting, 1/12/2001 Closed-Door Meeting Transcript, pp. 149 & 150 (emphasis added)
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and this:

Email from Marie McCormick, "Injure the Nervous System"
June 9, 2004
Private email to a parent

This private email was written by Marie McCormick, Chairperson of the 2004 IOM Committee. It highlights how misused and misquoted the 2004 IOM report is, often referred to as proof that thimerosal is "safe", which the report never concluded. In it, she quotes a portion of the IOM report:

"The committee accepts that under certain conditions, infections and heavy metals, including thimerosal, can injure the nervous system."
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Veterinarians and pet owners are reporting the same health conditions in over-vaccinated pets as are common among people with autism, such as seizures and IBD. Veterinarian organizations have responded by revising the animal vaccine protocol to group vaccines into "core" vaccines most important for common serious illnesses, and other vaccines which are less critical (see www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/veterinarian-wi.html ).

But go ahead, just keep dismissing all evidence as anecdotal and coincidental.

No, Geniusiq160, that is not our "line of logic"; that is the line of reasoning among people within the gov't and medical establishment, who often tell us that since most people who receive vaccines don't become autistic, therefore vaccines don't cause autism.

A few people such as Dr. Bernardine Healy have suggested actually studying the injured children, but those who should be doing these studies say there is no need to study individual children because statistics are all that is needed.

As Dr. Bernardine Healy said, "population studies are not granular enough to detect individual metabolic, genetic, or immunological variation that might make some children under certain circumstances susceptible to neurological complications after vaccination."
http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/brain-and-behavior/2008/04/10/fighting-the-autism-vaccine-war.html

Like so many other people today, you dismiss as "anecdotal" parent observations of their toddlers' vaccine reactions followed by loss of language and social skills and regression into autism. However, what parents witness is important evidence.

In addition, there is a whole lot of other evidence of various kinds linking vaccines and autism, including studies of the immune system, nervous system, and biochemical processes in the body.

And the autism-vaccine link is consistent with a history of vaccines causing immune system reactions and encephalitis. In the article cited above, Dr. Bernardine Healy also said, "Go back 40 or 50 years. The medical literature is replete with reports of neurological reactions to vaccines, such as mood changes, seizures, brain inflammation, and swelling." In recent studies, brain inflammation has been found in autopsied brains of people with autism. And inflammatory markers have been found in the spinal fluid of people with autism.

So, wrap your 160 IQ genius mind around a little more of the evidence. There will be more and more evidence coming out in the coming year.

To Genius -
Based upon your logic, there would be no such thing as a peanut allergy due to the fact that many people eat peanuts, yet do not drop dead right after eating them. Ridiculous. Sometimes, anecdotal evidence accurately represents the truth.

Actually, one could just as easily say that MMR prevents autism. Since you go by anecdotal evidence, there are a huge number of people who took the MMR and didn't become autistic. With your line of logic, that means that it prevents autism. End of story

Twyla, I think he means Heather. Her comment is below yours, so he probably mis-read the tag.

James said, "some people like Twyla can be injected with massive amounts of mercury and have no effects". Hunh? Not sure where that's coming from. Are you confusing me with somebody else, or misinterpreting one of my comments?

A good friend of mine from High School has a son who began to show signs of autism after the MMR vaccine. I dont believe everything I read on the internet, but anyone who thinks that this stuff is good for you needs to have their heads examined.
The real question is here, if the risk / reward ratio is worth it for our kids. By the sound of it, the answer is an overwhelming no. And while some people like Twyla can be injected with massive amounts of mercury and have no effects, that does not mean that it would not put others at risk. Ask Jeremy Pivens, an actor who is now suffering from mercury poisoning.
Every time I read a case study I think to myself "What industry that investigates itself can be counted on to provide evidence that implicates them to the incline of autism?"
The reality is, the Pharms have to much money to allow that to happen, and they have to much to loose. Its not a conspiracy, but many people think that even with the potential side effect associated with Vaccines, that the benefits outweigh the risks, until it becomes their kid of course. Personally, I would rather run the risk of having to nurse my kid through one of these disease, then have him walking around in circles banging his head against a toaster for the rest of his life. Im not being funny either.
In closing, I just want to say that I feel todays medical establishment is more about using the populace as Guinea pigs for the pharmaceutical companies than it is about protecting the people, and preventative medicine has taken on a new meaning, to prevent lawsuits.
Stay away from this Garbage, listen to the parents and not the hypocrites that investigate themselves.

Heather, nobody is saying that everyone who gets the MMR becomes autistic. The fact that you did not have an adverse reaction does not mean that no one does.

I got the measles vaccine back in the early 1980's when the shot was loaded with Mercury and poison and evil-doctor voodoo. I do not have autism.

I can't believe the people on here calling pediatricians evil and accusing them of "destroying" children. It's deplorable.

Editor's note: Heather, neither the measles vaccine nor the MMR ever had thimerosal. Live virus vaccines do not contain mercury preservatives. Before you make emotional attacks you should make sure you know what you're talking about. From this comment, it is clear you do not.

My husband and I are expecting our first child, and he recently came home telling me about the MMR vaccine causing Autism due to the Mercury based preservative used in the vaccine. I was very concerned and did some research.

I think it is fair that parents should know that the CDC addressed this issue in 1999 and 2001.

Here is a direct quote from their website:

"Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines and other products since the 1930s. There is no convincing scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure.

Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines."

Reading this has made less worried, but I think if you are a concerned parent, I was told you can still request the MMR as three shots where no preservatives are used. I think that people should understand that even if the CDC is not saying there is a connection they did address the concern.

Remember, the you are the doctors customer and if you do not feel comfortable with any thing they are doing to you or your children, you have the final say. Too many people in do not ask questions and bring up concerns. You always have the right to refuse.

I also encourage everyone to do there own research and not believe everything they read on the internet.

Thank you for your time.

Haylee
Thank you for your honest and emotional opinion. It makes me feel better that young people are getting the message. I would love it if you told your friends about www.causecast.org When somebody wants to help change the world this site empowers them to do so with all proceeds going to a great cause... Like Generation rescue.
Thank you for working with our kids. You will be rewarded they have a lot to offer. God Bless you.
http://www.causecast.org/member/tanners-dad

I've been researching Autism as much as possible in the last couple of months and was directed here after reading Both Mother Warriors and Louder than Words. I do not have children of my own but I shadow an Aspergers student.
I'm amazed at all the things I've discovered. Aside from being convinced that the amount of toxins being added to these babies is triggering autism, I'm also very angry to find that there are derivatives of human blood in vaccines.
I was just given MMR and tetanus shots in order to work in the school system. I knew that I had already had them but the doctor said that rather than wait to get my records sent they would just re-administer.. they said it was no big deal.
The big Deal is that I believe that blood is sacred (religious view) and obstain from partaking blood in any way. The doctor was aware of this as well. I'm sure he didn't have the ingredients memorized but I'm upset about that.
I'm also shocked that our doctors think its ok to inject all of these toxins. They are supposed to make us healthy!
I'm 24 and I know about 7 people who are currently pregnant. I'm scared for them. I'm posted a lot of my finding on my myspace and unfortunatly my closest friend believes the CDC when they say there's no proven connection between thimerosal and autism...
If only she would actually READ what is out there on this subject.
I saw a video on youtube from a cnn interview where the CDC Chief admitted that vaccines can autism like symptoms (aka autism)
I'm scared to have kids..

I found a great article on National Institute of Child Health and Developments website that I think parents should read. It's titled Aren't the diseases from the MMR vaccine mild when compared to the life long symptoms of autism? It really explains how dangerous measels mumps and rubella really are. There is a rising increase in measels due to more and more parents not vaccinating there children with MMR. I feel if parents are going to put their kids at such high risk of a deadly disease like this that these kids shouldnt be allowed to be around other kids and possibly exposing them to this disease. For example in daycares and schools. Keep your kids vaccinated the risk of getting a disease is much higher than the risk of getting autism.

I'm saddened to hear all of the misconceptions and erroneous information on this site. There are countless current research articles proving this information to be false. Trust your physicians and nurses not a blogspot on the Internet.
Please keep in mind that the herd immunity that you are going to rely on for keeping your child free from vaccine preventable diseases is decreasing. Also, the children and adults who have medically sound reasons (cancer, HIV, ect.) for not receiving vaccines are even more susceptible. Already this year there has been 131 cases of measles reported to the CDC. This is the highest number of cases since 1996. Measles is a very dangerous disease and it can be prevented.

To the moms and grandmoms:

Protect yourself when you go to these pediatrician jackals. Go "armed," so to speak. Talk to your husbands, mothers, fathers (show them this site, generation rescue, etc.), get them on board, and bring them with you to appointments.

I'm sad to report that it's not just pediatricians who behave this way. My mom is diabetic, 60 years old, and she's been bullied, intimidated, lied-to, insulted, and even harassed by almost every doctor she's seen since we moved here in 1997. This is because she goes alone... if my dad went with her, or my wife or I did, I doubt they'd get away with it. Like they're going to behave that way when a witness is there.

She also was almost killed when they took her off her tried and true insulin system she's been using since she was 20 and put her on pharma's brand new program.

She recently got her medical records from the latest doctor who just "fired" her without even telling her until she tried to make an appointment. The genius had her down as TYPE II diabetes when she's TYPE I.

Anyway, if you have a hostile doc, go in prepared with the proper mentality. Also bring a partner... makes things SO MUCH easier!

Dear Northern US:
You are one smart mom! Congratulations on a healthy baby. My 5 year old daughter has never been vaccinated and has never had a sick visit. She went to preschool at age 3 5days/week. She has 3 older siblings who all brought home every cough, cold etc. What I'm saying is I did not shelter my baby.

Dump your ped and find a homopath or naturalpath just in case your baby catches the sniffles, gets a fever, etc. I've used homopathic medicine for over 5 years and it works wonders even for babies. I learned from a pharmacist.

Good Luck and enjoy your baby.

My son is almost 2 months and I ws taking him in for his first round of shots in the morning but after the advice of old friend I decided to do a little research on the immunization details and wound up on this site. I am cancelling my appt in the morning! I am shocked but extremely happy I got this information in time...You know...I refused all shots at birth because it just didnt SEEM right or logical to inject HEP B into a newborn...so I said no...It was as if I just admitted I was from mars or something...I got alot of nasty faces from the nurses which I complained about (years of therapy and acting training make me more outspoken than normal)..Then when I went to my pediatrician and he saw I refused the vaccine , he as well got really SNIPPY with me...I felt a blacklist sensation and it scared me actually...But now after reading these comments psted here...I am sure...I will wait at least 2 years for any and I will space them out...if I even choose any...they all sound horrible...Dtap, HepB, HIB...Wondering about Rotateq , Prevnar and Pediarix which are all listed at 2 months!!!! No way Im getting the MMR or Gardasil...Heard of Varivax? Anyway, as a child I had whooping cough, mumps, measles, and chickenpox...and none of them killed me...although the whooping cough was scary! My brother got all his shots...in 1995 and he has major allergies...hmmmm....I have no allergies to anything (born in 1960s). Here is my BIG QUESTION...If I dont get baby vaccinated with anything for 2 years...should I not take him into public places and or not let strangers get near him to protect his system? Thanks for your altruistic and honorable web site...Northern US

I have a three-month-old son and I've been pressured to vaccinate him with the current CDC vaccine schedule, but I've decided against it. When I tried to express my concerns to follow an alternate schedule, possibly delaying the vaccines and then separating them, I was met with condescending hostility from the doctor. My older brother is autistic (Asperger Syndrome, mainly), which furthers my concern over my little boy. I'm far from the over-protective mother who rushes to the doctor at the first sign of a slightly runny nose, but I was treated as though I was a pathetic half-wit who shouldn't be allowed to be a mother. I'm young, 22-years-old, and I know a lot of people tend to look down on younger mothers, but I find this attitude toward alternate vaccine schedules from medical "professionals" to be deplorable. I don't want to be bullied and endure the sarcastic eye-rolling from physicians any longer, so does anybody know a doctor in San Diego County, CA, who might understand my decision to hold off on vaccinations until my child is older? Thanks so much for any information you might have for me.

i have two grandchildren that were born in 12/06 and they got some shots and my one son let the dr.s give him 5 shots all at once. and i didn't think that he should have did that..he seem to be alright but i don't know for sure.and now he is taking him back to get more shots and i want him to only get him one at a time do you think i should try to talk him out of doing that..becaue i go with him on every apointment? and when the baby was born he had to drink soy milk..because the formumla would constapate him and his whole body would go limp.and vomite.so what do you think we should do???

My son is now just over years. Our day care provider is being directed by the state of NJ to require all children be vaccinated according to schedule provided be the CDC. To date my son has had vaccines but not MMR, Varicella or Flu. I am Interested in finding if there is a way in which these can be avoided.

Brian

Hi,
I did not vaccinate my kids after the MMR scare because of a link with autism and bowel disorders (history of this on my husband's side of the family). My eldest was vaccinated before the scare and I am now contemplating vaccinating my other 3 kids. The eldest is 13, next is 9 and then 8. Are there any reports of children of this age becoming autistic/developing bowel disorders after mmr? My eldest is booked in for her mmr this Friday so would appreciate some advice.

Eva,

1. Please look carefully at www.generationrescue.org. Get in touch with a Rescue Angel close to where you live. (Write to me, too--I'm there, listed in Ohio.)

2. Start with the GFCF diet. Take it seriously. Remember that this is just a starting point for some; all that's needed for a lucky few.

3. There are lots of tests, but you'll get nowhere with your current doctor. Ditch this evil woman as fast as you can; I do not say this lightly. Believe me, with the attitude she has already displayed toward you and your daughter, she couldn't have made this decision any easier. She doesn't care what happens to either one of you. You *can* find someone who does.

4. Please let us know how it goes. There are new parents lurking here all the time. What all of us say and do will influence how many babies are healed, and how many continue to be carelessly poisoned in the first place.

The multiple vaccination nightmare this person *wanted* to subject your daughter to is literally unbelievable to me, especially after Hannah Poling. It's unreal that any human being, much less a doctor who took A SACRED OATH TO "FIRST, DO NO HARM," could so blindly destroy children on a regular basis.

But it happens every day.

And it will until we stop it.

Terri Lewis

I have been scouring the Internet for days trying to find out about the MMR vaccine as it relates to bowel problems and subsequent autism. I have been slow to vaccinate my daughter due to my terror of causing permanent neurological damage.

Last month, however, my daughter developed a measle-like rash, which subsequently turned out to be roseola. Meanwhile, my daughter's doctor had been pressuring me that I should finish her vaccinations as she is seriously "behind" schedule. The measle like rash and the information the doctor gave me scared me so I agreed to give her the MMR vaccine. I asked the doctor if she could have the vaccines separately. Her exact words delivered with an angry disdain were, "Oh, don't be like that!"

She wanted to catch my daughter up with all of her vaccines, but on that I stood firm and refused to allow it. Had I agreed Rosie would have gotten the following vaccines at once: DTaP, HIB, MMR, Hepatitis A, and Pneumococcal. Additionally, I noted the doctor had marked Rosie as behind in Varicella and the Flu Shot. I don't know whether she would have given her those shot as well.

Anyway, since a few days after the vaccine my daughter has had chronic soft stools and a horrible diaper rash. I will say that she is prone to constipation and has suffered pretty bad rashes before. When I phoned the doctor to discuss it, she was annoyed with me saying that she had seen me before about this rash and if I thought it was so bad to make an appointment or go to the emergency room (I apparently was disturbing her weekend). I took my daughter to the doctors office the following Monday and was told she had a stomach virus and to modify her diet until the stools return to normal. Her stools have not returned to normal and it has been about 3-4 weeks.

I know that my daughter's current doctor will not support me in investigating the relationship. What can I do to find out what is happening with her? Are there tests I can insist on? Are there dietary modifications I can make?

Eva

Thank you, Monica and thank you, Concerned Mom #2. My answer was inadequate; yours are much more complete.

Concerned Mom (JL)--are you there?

Terri L.

Concerned Mom, ultimately it is your choice, do NOT let the doctor "bully" you into any decision you are not comfortable with.

You should know, that the package insert to the MMR states-
"WARNINGS
Due caution should be employed in administration of M-M-R II to persons with a history of cerebral injury, individual or family histories of convulsions, or any other condition in which stress due to fever should be avoided. The physician should be alert to the temperature elevation which may occur following vaccination (see ADVERSE REACTIONS).
Hypersensitivity to Eggs
Live measles vaccine and live mumps vaccine are produced in chick embryo cell culture. Persons with a history of anaphylactic, anaphylactoid, or other immediate reactions (e.g., hives, swelling of the mouth and throat, difficulty breathing, hypotension, or shock) subsequent to egg ingestion may be at an enhanced risk of immediate-type hypersensitivity reactions after receiving vaccines containing traces of chick embryo antigen. The potential risk to benefit ratio should be carefully evaluated before considering vaccination in such cases. Such individuals may be vaccinated with extreme caution, having adequate treatment on hand should a reaction occur (see PRECAUTIONS)."

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

As for the stand alone measles vaccine, ATTENUVAX®, which is still a live virus, the package insert states-

"WARNINGS
Due caution should be employed in administration of ATTENUVAX to persons with a history of cerebral injury, individual or family histories of convulsions, or any other condition in which stress due to fever should be avoided. The physician should be alert to the temperature elevation which may occur following vaccination (see ADVERSE REACTIONS).
This product contains albumin, a derivative of human blood. Based on effective donor screening and product manufacturing processes, it carries an extremely remote risk for transmission of viral diseases. Although there is a theoretical risk for transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD), no cases of transmission of CJD or viral disease have ever been identified that were associated with the use of albumin.
Hypersensitivity to Eggs
Live measles vaccine is produced in chick embryo cell culture. Persons with a history of anaphylactic, anaphylactoid or other immediate reactions (e.g., hives, swelling of the mouth and throat, difficulty breathing, hypotension and shock) subsequent to egg ingestion may be at an enhanced risk of immediate-type hypersensitivity reactions after receiving vaccines containing traces of chick embryo antigen. The potential risk to benefit ratio should be carefully evaluated before considering vaccination in such cases. Such individuals may be vaccinated with extreme caution, having adequate treatment on hand should a reaction occur (see PRECAUTIONS)"

http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/mvvmer013107LB.pdf

You may want to see if your daughter has any maternal antibodies. There are also vitamins (particularly A I think) you can give her before, and after vaccination, that can bolster the immune system.

I know it must be difficult for you to weigh the risks and benefits right now. Please tell us how it goes.

Out of curiousity, where in the US do you live, where there is a measles outbreak currently?

"She is extremely sensitive, has had allergies to egg, and possibly milk, now all just about resolved. She remains sensitive to anything perfumed, etc."

JL given the above description of the state of your daughter's health, its fairly obvious that she has suffered from the ill-effects of the vaccines. I would never ever stick my child with another shot - EVER. The M, M and R (i.e., live viruses) are the death knell of many many kids. Read Dr. Miller's explanation of the live virus vaccines on the Generation Rescue website. Should your daughter contract the mealses, take her to an alternative medicine practitioner to treat her naturally. IF your child gets autism from that shot will your pediatrician be able to cure her of her autism? BTW Hannah Poling was like your daughter before she got her shots that did her in. You do not know what your daughter's tipping point is do you?

JL (Concerned Mom)--

I don't live anywhere near New York, so I can't comment on the availability of separate measles, mumps, and rubella shots there.

But you also just asked for opinions.

With your particular circumstances, especially, I wouldn't give the MMR. I'm not so sure I would take the measles shot, knowing what I know now, but I certainly wouldn't expose my child to the MMR.

Your daughter is already showing immune system problems, so why take a chance of making it worse?

She will benefit from large doses of Vitamin A and Vitamin C, both before, during, and after exposure to either the measles or the measles shot. There's more specific advice (doses, and more) at www.generationrescue.com.

Another possibility is to minimize her chances of exposure. Find out if any other child she's around actually has measles; possibly find alternate child care.

Most importantly, learn more about measles and about the measles shot. The info is out there, and much of it is right here.

Good luck, and we'd all be interested in hearing what you choose to do.

Terri L.

Hi all,
This site has been so informative, thank you. I have a 24-month old daughter (turning 2 on May 6th), and I have not yet given her the MMR. I did space all of her earlier vaccines, so as not to administer more than 2 at a time. She is extremely sensitive, has had allergies to egg, and possibly milk, now all just about resolved. She remains sensitive to anything perfumed, etc. There is currently an outbreak of measles in my area. Given its easy transmission, and given the fact that my daughter is with other children at a sitter each day (and I don't know who they have contact with), I'm leaning toward giving her the vaccine at her next well-check (either this week or next). Any opinions, tips? Any knowledge of separated vaccinations in the NYC area?

Thank you,
Concerned Mom

Rachael, I can't help with the prescription dilemma, but I have found a travel clinic in my area (Cincinnati, OH) that offers the individual measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines. Maybe you could check into that, as well. I have not decided when I will feel comfortable going forward with the individual ones, particularly the measles...

To all who write for this site, as well as the many parents who post comments about your personal experiences--you are rock stars to me. I owe so much thanks to you for sharing all of your knowledge. I check this site daily, and am in awe of the persistent effort to uncover the truth behind vaccine damage. I especially appreciate the wit, humor, and sarcasm that often leave me laughing out loud. Ultimately, next to God, I feel that I have you all to thank for the 17 month old son that blows me kisses and laughs with me.

When he was 4 months old, I read research about early, rapid rate of growth for head circumference and how this is common in children with autism. Ever since then, I have been bracing for autism, since his head went from the 25th percentile at birth to the 75th percentile at 4 months (almost exactly like the children in the studies). He was a little late responding to his name and with babbling. My husband's family also has a very strong history of autoimmune disorders, and my husband has a cousin with autism. When my son had his flu shot at 11 months (cringe), I found out it contained thimerosal. I was outraged that I had been so naive to believe it had been removed from "all" vaccines. I started digging and found Age of Autism. This has totally changed my perspective on vaccines. We have opted for a much less intensive vaccine schedule, and so far all is well. My son loves to spin wheels (a little too much in my opinion), which reminds me that we are not out of the woods yet. But his vocabulary is great, and aside from being shy around strangers, his social skills seem to be fine.

I feel like I am a parent of a child who is just one environmental trigger (vaccine) away from autism. The risk factors are there. You have given me the precious information that I need to do whatever I can to stop autism in its tracks. I am so grateful. A new generation of parents is listening to your stories and your advice--I believe your ideas just might save our children.

I wish there was a message board where mothers like myself could problem solve our situations, ask questions, etc, instead of using comments space. If anyone knows of a good place to do this, please let me know. Thanks!

Hi, my daughter is 20 months, and I have not given her the MMR vaccine yet. Her pediatrition told me he can not order them seperate and agreed to give me a prescription for the mumps and in a year he will write a script for rubella and a year later for measles. I can not find a pharmacy willing or able to fill the prescription for me. I am not sure what to do. I do not want to give the combined vaccine, but every pharmacy is telling me thats the only way it can be ordered. I'm so lost. Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks so much.
~Rachael

Hi, this is my first visit to this site.
When our son was a year we debated having the MMR shot but they told me it was better to have it done than not to. Agaist better judgement we had it done. My niece was just diagnosed with autism so I have been trying to do as much research as possible. Our daughter is 9 months old and my husband and I have decided not to have her MMR shot done at a year. We were wondering weather to have it done at age 4, all is seperate shots. Do you think this is a good idea, or should we not at all? Thanks in advance for your advice. This is a wonderful site.

Hi Danielle - Let me add to Terri's excellent response. As a mom of a girl with autism, we need to be careful about using the statistics of boys vs. girls with autism as a means to make ourselves feel better about the "chance" of a girl acquiring autism. I believe that the focus on this statistic only hurts our girls. Doctors are less likely to think "autism" with a girl because it is more prevalent in boys, and this can delay diagnosis, and ultimately, early intervention. This is what happened to my daughter. And, the fact of the matter is, the incidence among girls is not rare. 20-25% of a population is not rare. I mean, how can one say that the incidence of autism in children - 1 in 150 - is not rare, and then say that the ratio of girls to boys (1 to 4) is rare? The math doesnt add up. In the end, your daughter can be just as susceptible as any boy. Terri mentioned the auto-immune connection above which does play into this susceptibility.

Danielle,

Following the recommended schedule for vaccination today is extremely risky. It's literally Russian roulette.

If you continue, and your baby gets all 36 shots within a 2-year period (including flu shots) she has a pretty good chance of becoming a statistic:

1% to 2% chance of autism (theoretically much lower for girls, but a higher chance in families with autoimmune problems of any kind)
10% chance of PDD-NOS, ADHD, ADD or some lesser form of brain/immune damage
10% chance of asthma

Additional risks of seizure disorder, diabetes, even death (especially following multiple immunizations in a single visit).

My guess is that you had your doubts three days ago, decided to go ahead anyway (probably under pressure from people who know less than you do) and now you're wondering if you did the right thing.

I can tell you this: Most of us are here because we vaccinated our kids, they were damaged by it, and we had a very hard time getting them better (some have not recovered; not by a long shot).

You can't unvaccinate, but you can wait and inform yourself.

Go to www.generationrescue.com.

Read Dr. Miller's schedule for starters.

E-mail me if you want to talk to someone else, rather just doing it on your own (I'm listed as an Ohio Rescue Angel).

If your pediatrician tells you that people like us are crazy, keep in mind that it isn't his child, and he won't be there to pick up the pieces.

In fact, the way it stands today, nobody but you will do that: insurance doesn't usually cover these kids, and some of them are sick (both mentally and physically) for years, despite their parents tireless, unending effort.

Terri Lewis

P.S. Did I mention food allergies? Seasonal allergies? Whoops--gotta go--just got called to school because my daughter's spring allergies are acting up (beats the asthma attacks she used to have).

Hello, I am new to this website. I really need advise asap please! my daughter just received her 12 month shots, (ckn pox..etc.)on 4-22-08. After just recently researching the negative effects that vaccines have created, I am really stressing out about if it's too late. 'Could her previous vaccs already damaged her immune system without any obvious effects?' Any advise would be truly appreciated. It makes me sick to my stomach to think that my long over due lack of knowledge on this subject may have allowed her to be hurt in any way. Any advise PLEASE!

Here's a personal article I wrote about my family's experience at the pediatrician and what we had planned before we went and ultimately went through. Some strategies and tactics for dealing with possibly hostile "caregivers" at the end.

http://chetday.com/vaccinerefusal.htm

There are exemptions. Educate yourself about the laws of your state.

Look into exemptions. They exist in all 50 states, although two states allow only medical exemptions. http://insidevaccines/wordpress/ look on right hand side for link to exemptions. Site has lots of other useful information on vaccination, which is why I didn't just give you the direct link to the exemption info. Good luck figuring it all out!

My son is coming up for his 5 year check up. He was not diagnosed with autism (though he was tested) but he doesn have a speech/language delay. He's scheduled to receive a Tetanus, MMR, and Varivax (Varicella). If I refuse these vaccinations, won't he be denied entry into school when he begins kindergarten in the fall? Perhaps now that will be 5, is it safer?

Eden,
Just so you know, my autistic daughter was never breastfed, not even once. She and her NT fraternal twin were both formula fed. I really don't think there is a correlation between feeding methods and ASD, though maybe I'm wrong. I'm a lot more concerned about what goes in via the needle than I am about what goes in through breast or bottle.

Hi Nicole,
Here is a link to some starting info: http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/?p=85 and no, it isn't too late to reconsider the standard vaccine schedule. This page has lots of useful links: http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/?page_id=13/back_to_basics/
Take as much time as you need to research. Once a vaccine goes in you can't take it out again.

Nicole,

It is never too late to stop vaccinating on the current CDC schedule...the sooner the better. I wish I had stopped at 9 months...things may have been so different. You should to go to the Generation Rescue website and look at the safe vaccine schedule (there are three). You are right to refuse the varicella. Your child would be much better off getting the actual chicken pox and having appropriate lifelong immunity. You have every right to choose a safe schedule...please do not let your pediatrician strong arm you into doing something you are not comfortable doing...check out www.generationrescue.org and read up on the safe schedule...maybe print out the articles and bring them with you to your pediatrician. All the best to you and your beautiful baby...keep him safe.

Sonja

HELP! I'm new to this debate, with a 12-month old about to get shots on 4/10/08. He has already had all vaccines on schedule, and does not seem to have any significant delays or signs of autism. After reading some on this debate, I don't think I want him to get all his shots - at least not the MMR and probably not the varicella. My questions are: 1) are we already too late since he had his previous shots on the AAP schedule? and 2) Which, if any, shots should he get at his 12-month visit in 2 days? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Thank you for so much great information in one place. I was interested in one writer's question about the possibility of formula having a link to autism because I feel that it is the other way around...that breastfeeding has a possible link to autism. Every autistic child I have ever taught had been breastfed. There is such a push to breastfeed now days, even if nursing mothers are drinkers, smokers, drug-users or on prescription medication. I have a friend who told her OB that she is on Prozac and a smoker and her OB encouraged her to breastfeed anyway. There are so many toxins from our own bodies that seep into breastmilk and our littlest ones just can't handle them. Consider too that most toxins are stored in fat cells and after giving birth when many women begin to lose weight, they are breastfeeding. These toxins surely get into breast milk and into our infants. All the environmental toxins that have built up in our bodies over the years are given to our breastfed infants. Women should not be shamed into breastfeeding, given the line that "breast is best" and formula feed. It would be interesting to see what happens.

Hi...I am a mother of of 13 year old son who has autism. After he received the MMR shot, I noticed a significant change in my son. He stopped talking,interacting, and was in his own world. I believe that the preservative, Thirmisol, caused him to become autistic. I hope that this can come to life and all the families that are afffected by this wil be compensated for what the vaccines I have done to our children, Thank you.

I share the concern of the connection between vaccines and autism and other neurological disorders. I am a parent of a 12 month old. I have been researching as much as possible the connections between vaccines and autism and other NDs for months. I have found the content on your sight incredibly insightful and in line with my own beliefs.

That being said- I understand that the content that you share on your website is not of medical advice. I am very aware of that. However, my question is not for medical advice, but for advice from someone with experience. If you feel you cannot answer me, then I would be most grateful if you could at least point me in the direction of someone who might be able to. Onto the question:

I have already established for myself that my son will no longer be receiving any combination vaccinations. Nor will he be receiving more than one vaccination per doctor's visit. There are also a number of vaccines that are recommended that I do not want my son to receive (e.g., Hep A). What I would like to know is what is a good interval between vaccinations based upon all of your research and experience. I am still considering allowing my son to be vaccinated against Measles, Mumps, and Rubella, for instance. However, I do not want them all at once. I'm trying to figure out how long I should wait after he is vaccinated against Measles, for example, before allowing him to be vaccinated against Mumps. Could you shed any light on this for me?

THANK YOU!

Parents, stay strong. Every time I take my son to the pediatrician, I am ridiculed and pressured to "catch him up" on the vaccines I have chosen to skip -- Hepatitis B (he doesn't work in a hospital), the MMR (he is not in day care, and it seems safer to wait), and the last two Pertussis parts of the 4-shot DTaP series. I have never allowed the pediatrician to give him multiple shots in one day, or to give him any vaccine containing heavy metals, which means no flu shots. The Pertussis parts of the inoculations (we eventually determined) were making him terribly sick: High fever for a couple of days, then low-grade fever and listlessness. Each injection made him sicker for a longer time, until it just felt too dangerous. Then I found out that the largest amount of total payout from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is for kids who have been killed or maimed by the pertussis vaccine. So, the next time he needed blood taken, I asked them to run a pertussis titer on him, and behold! Even though he was still well within the immunity window from the previous shots, he had Absolutely No Immunity to pertussis. All that sickness and stress and suffering, to no benefit. Apparently, the illnesses he suffered were the result of his little body rejecting the vaccines! Grrrr...

I would love for this country to go back to the 1970's/early 1980's schedule for a 5-year period, and see what happens! Everybody stay strong, and fight the powers that be to curtail or space out, or limit your child's vaccinations to what seems safe and suitable to you. It's your child, and it is so true -- if something nasty happens to your kid, the doctor who was pressuring you to accept the vaccines will not be the person coming to your house to give your kid speech therapy. As the mother of a two-year-old, I wrestle with the pressure at each visit, and sometimes during obnoxious "reminder" phone calls. So stay strong, everybody. When I found out that the inoculations making my son sick for 10 days at a time weren't actually getting him any immunity, it got easier to say no. Blessings to all... --Mary Lou (the Mom)

3 days after my 12 month-old son had his first MMR (along with "the rest of the required by Texas State Law vaccines") he was running a 104 fever. 3 days after that he began vomiting, was listless, had diarrhea and he broke out with a rash all over his body. I took him back to the pediatrician who simply said it was "a virus". Complete denial that his "virus" was a reaction to the immunizations (even though all of the symptoms are listed as "possible reactions" on the package inserts) because his reactions "weren't immediate."(within 24-48 hrs.) At this point, I'm frustrated, confused, and wondering if it's okay to NOT continue with his series until he's at least 2. (I already know how our pediatrician feels about this.--she would disagree) If he stops his series now, will he have to "start from the beginning" when he's 2? I am not 100% POSITIVE that he got sick from his shots...but I'm 100% POSITIVE that it is a possibility.

You should put a "EMAIL THIS" and "PRINT THIS" link on this page so we can send it to our friends and family with concerns.

Linsey,

You ask urgently, "Should I give him these shots or wait?"

As one parent to another: wait.

Inform yourself. Find and look at specific information for each shot.

Be prepared to stand up to your doctor. Not all pediatricians take kindly to parents who question them, especially about vaccinations. And even if you really like your doctor, pediatricians tend to be grossly uninformed about the real benefits and risks of the individual shots they give you.

Remember: You are the parent, and this is still America. No one can force you to immunize your child, but they can sure as heck intimidate you, and many of them will.

Look at the vaccination information on www.generationrescue.org. Follow the links. See your alternatives.

In the meantime, to be specific, I would not get any shots at all on March 26th. Delay your appointment, even by a month, until you've had time to absorb the information.

Don't confuse yourself by looking at anything put out by the CDC, the FDA, or any other government agency. They do not care about your child, they only care about vaccinating as many kids as possible, against as many diseases as possible. That's the literal truth, and when pressed, they will often state it. If your baby suffers, they will tell you "it wasn't the shots" no matter what, then they'll hang you out to dry as far as getting that child better again.

And I would skip the pneumo conjugate for sure. (They add new shots all the time; this wasn't even around 6 years ago, when my kids were still getting their shots.)

And, yes, one of my three children got autism, but that's another long story. He's almost better, but it was about a 4-yr. nightmare, and yes, he still has some "issues." We were one of the lucky ones; some kids don't recover completely.

Please write back to let us know what you decide.

Many, many parents are confused today; what you do will encourage others to inform and empower themselves.

Terri Lewis

"SHOULD I GIVE HIM THESE SHOUTS OR WAIT??????"

From a parental standpoint the present schedule presents with a 1 in 6 chance of a neurological disorder and a 1 in 150 chance for autism. Those are not good odds. A child's immune system is not equipped to handle so much at once. I would definitely wait and probably give only the 1970s schedule duly split up into single vaccines and very well spaced out (more than 6 months and possibly upto a year apart). Also read the insert to make sure there is no thimerosal.

Eliminate the useless vaccines that will not kill you or permanently maim your for life like the Hep B and the chickenpox. I am sure there are others. Never ever give a combo vaccine like the DTaP (the pertussis has a terrible record) and never EVER give the MMR as it confuses the immune system (see Dr. Andrew Wakefield's and Dr. Arthur Krigsman's reports on it). Your doc can order single vaccines in a set of 10 from the manufacturer.

Finally, a plain sheet of vaccine adverse effects is not enough, ask your doctor to correlate the vaccine risks to your family's individual medical history. If the pediatrician is unable to do this for whatever reason, I would refuse the shots altogether. Ultimately you are the parent, the child and his future is your responsibility, and YOU have the RIGHT to make that decision. IF your child is struck by autism, the doctor will probably just shrug his shoulders and drop you like a hot potato so it is ultimately upto YOU, the parent, to look out for your family. The risks of over-vaccinating are definitely not worth it.

My son is now almost 4 months old and will be going for shots on the 26th of march the shots they will be giving him are DTP-IPV HIb and Pneumo conjugate. I have been reading so much about the autism it is making my head spin. SHOULD I GIVE HIM THESE SHOUTS OR WAIT??????

I will be waiting to give himm the MMR untill after the age of 2 or 3.
I WOULS LIKE SOME ADVICE PLEASE

Hi Dan, Carmen's mom here. case # 88924. You are right that Carmen received the MMR/Hep B on the same day. She also received the OPV that day. I don't know if it is acceptable to do MMR & OPV on the same day. Seems at the time (1994) MMR was given 15-18 months. For some reason Carmen received MMR at 12 months. Also seems back then docs were saying autistic regression was typically around 18 months to 2 years. Carmen regressed around 13 - 14 months. Seems there is a pattern there.

I have a question. This is just out of my own curiosity. I am just wondering how many children who have autism were also formula fed babies. I completely understand the vaccination concern. I agree it is valid. I have seen a lot of research on that subject. I have also seen that some batches of formula have had high levels of pesticide and other chemicals found in them. I was just thinking that since autism didn't occur to all of the children who received vaccinations that maybe it was a combination of bad-batch formula or formula in general, and vaccines. No one has even attempted research on that subject, or at least I haven't found even one article. Like I was saying, I'm just curious on your thoughts. I'm sure that you know much more than me. I would just like to know more.

Great article Dan. I have some questions for those who are 'studying' the MMR and still say it is safe. Why don't you study the colon biopsies? Why aren't you looking for vaccine strain measles RNA? Why aren't you studying the CSF for vaccine straine measles RNA? How come it has become a controversy for labs to test for measles RNA? And what does Merck have to say about the vaccine strain measles RNA found in the colon tissue, and CSF of children who regressed into autism following the MMR? Why were children in the MMR drug trials only tested until the 6 week period following vaccination? Is it because then the bowel and neurological events would not be included as adverse events? One last question: Why was there only one child in the study from the UK who had GI problems when the subset of children in question who regress following the MMR vaccination have significant GI problems?

It just kills me when they say "these studies have significant weaknesses and are far outweighed by epidemiological studies" when the studies they cite are poorly designed, with no control group. In fact, I can't help but believe at this point that they are poorly designed by design. Especially when they continually find inexcusable excuses not to study the never-vaccinated.

Sandy, Thanks for these very useful citations. It reminds me of what Andy Wakefield said after meeting with some of the parents I interviewed in Olympia, Wash., for the Pox series. It's worth repeating his comments which were almost more in sorrow than in anger:

"It's actually heartbreaking, listening to these parents, because you're staring into an abyss," Wakefield said afterwards. "You're listening to stories which reflect the fundamental misconception of vaccine manufacturers of what viruses are and what they do. The whole perception of these people is dangerously naïve."

In contrast to the United States, British health authorities have not recommended chickenpox immunization. But an MMR-chickenpox shot was under discussion there at one point, and Wakefield said he warned its developers that putting four live viruses in one shot was a bad idea.

He says the Olympia cases show why.

"As far as I'm concerned, you are further increasing the likelihood of persistent infection and delayed disease, which they are never looking for and therefore they will never find if it does occur, as it did clearly in a relatively short space of time with some of these children, and it's never ascribed to an adverse reaction to the vaccine."

On its Web site, the CDC says such concerns -- and Wakefield's studies in particular -- are not based on good science.

"Current scientific evidence does not support the hypothesis that MMR vaccine, or any combination of vaccines, causes the development of autism, including regressive forms of autism," the CDC says.

"The existing studies that suggest a causal relationship between MMR vaccine and autism have generated media attention. However, these studies have significant weaknesses and are far outweighed by epidemiological studies ... that have consistently failed to show a causal relationship between MMR vaccine and autism."

Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a family practitioner in Florida who treats 3,000 autistic children and has worked with Wakefield, said he believes the risk of autism rises the earlier and closer together that live-virus vaccines are administered. He warned the Institute of Medicine in 2004 that it was ignoring the possibility that younger children are more vulnerable because their immune and neurological systems are immature.

"There's definitely been an association of kids getting MMR at 12 months and crashing (becoming autistic)," Bradstreet said.

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